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General Discussion / Re: cavities
« on: May 28, 2009, 09:01:35 am »
ive been experiencing some tooth discomfort the past week, if this is a cavity, does anyone have any suggestions on the most holistic approach to fixing this?
I read that cavities partially heal naturally when you're on a healthy, low-carb, Paleo-type diet. I moved my diet in the direction of Lex Rooker's when prescription fluoride alone didn't completely heal and desensitize a hole in my tooth (which developed while on a SAD) that exposed a root (though it did help quite a bit--sorry anti-fluoride people). Now on a VLC mostly raw diet with raw and lightly cooked meats my root has no pain and was only slightly sensitive to a dental cleaning.

Health / Re: Receding Gumlines
« on: May 28, 2009, 08:47:20 am »
I had 2 loose teeth and one starting to get loose. I noticed that Lex Rooker had the same problem and reversed it with his all-raw meat/organs/fats diet, so I moved my diet in his direction (not all the way--I cut down further on carbs and added more animal fats and meats--raw and lightly cooked--sorry pure rawists). After only a few weeks my teeth are firmer and my gums are healthier. The hygienist asked if I was brushing and flossing more (I wasn't), which is all they tend to care about. Even when I brushed and flossed 3 times a day it didn't have the benefit that eating VLC with lots of healthy fats and about 1/3-1/2 raw meats and eggs did. Beef jerky seems to help, as chewing it seems to clean my teeth, just like a dog with a jerky chew or pig's ear chew--but I don't think Lex eats any jerky and his improvements were more remarkable than mine.

Journals / Re: A day in the life of TylerDurden
« on: May 28, 2009, 08:15:06 am »
Well, I hate to say this, but raw dairy is an effective weight-gainer for RVAFers(whether for 100% RVAFers or whatever).
Dairy is one of the foods that has the worst effects on me, unfortunately--including raw.

I've also found that if I add sufficient amounts of raw carbs that my weight goes up(and I'm 98-99% raw).
I was eating more carbs than most Paleos in an effort to gain weight, but my health was declining as a result. So I cut back on the carbs and am doing much better, but I still have the issue of being overly thin. I've been hoping that increasing the fats and lifting weights might help, and I have put on a few pounds, but I'm hoping to add more. I see guys like the Primal diet guy who was thinner than me, went Primal and quickly added a lot of muscle and fat as a result (I'm more interested in adding muscle), and I wonder if I hit a diet right if I might get that sort of result too, or if the before-and-after success photo people just have genes with more muscle growth potential.

1 or 2  partial-rawists have claimed that cooked-starches like potatoes were useful for weight-gain, though, understandably, I don't recommend that. Most RVAFers were, for obvious reasons given our current society, extremely obese prior to taking up RVAF diets, so they don't mind the usual weight-loss that comes with it.
I was flabby and had a beer belly (from carbs, not beer) before going Paleo, though not hugely obese and I still had thin limbs, but now people nag me because they think I look too thin (though I'm actually back to the way I was in my 20's). It's ironic that some of the people who complain to me about being fat refuse to eat like I do because I look too thin. Somehow they don't see the contradiction.

[/quote]Re fruit:- yes, it does spoil easily. However, that particularly applies to nonorganic fruit. I generally find that the higher the quality of the fruit, the longer it lasts. I've slowly come round to the whole notion of brix-values and am always looking around for higher-quality raw animal/raw plant-foods(I don't really trust the organic label, after various experiences).[/quote]
I eat mostly organic, but have been thinking about going all-organic. I would prefer not to have to give up pemmican and jerky for the multiple reasons I mentioned, but if it turns out they're harming me I'll definitely reconsider that.

Given that natural selection became nonexistent sometime in the Palaeolithic(c.200,000 years ago?), it's unlikely that all segments of the human population would equally be resistant or adaptive to specific types of foods.Plus, from what I understand, epigenetics doesn't involve any real  alteration of DNA, just different gene-expression:-
That was my point as well and if I gave a different impression it was unintentional.

I'm saying that adaptation to a healthy (raw)food should really  take only a few months(barring serious digestion-related issues like a seriously damaged liver/pancreas etc.)
Most of the people I've seen who said it took months to adapt to zero carb or all raw did have very serious digestion-related issues, but I'm pretty new to this forum.

I can only base this on mine and others experience, of course(I took 8 months longer than most  because of the raw dairy, but that was because I was hyper-allergic to it, and it took that long for me to find that out).
I had a similar story. I didn't find out for decades until my doctor had me do a food challenge for dairy and then gluten and I improved both times, and then was tested and found to have very high antibodies to all dairy products and the components casein, whey and lactose (as well as gluten, wheat and many other grains). As an infant I also had mild digestive reactions to dairy fats, but was thought to have "grown out of it." The emphasis was always on trying to get kids like me to be able to eat the bad foods, with treatments like allergy shots. Eliminating dairy was never considered as an option. The same is true in most cases today. Instead of adapting diets to fit people's needs, they try to adapt people to the standard American diet.

It's just that the few raw, zero-carbers I've come across tend to mention still having issues 2-3 years after doing zero-carb. Well we'll see how things turn out in 10 years time.
I wonder if some of them are eating dairy. I noticed that a number of the low Paleos, low carbers and rawists who don't cut out dairy continue to have problems but tend to deny any possibility of dairy being the source--even without having tried eliminating it for more than a month or so. I was a real dairy addict myself, so I'm not criticizing, and believe in "each to their own."

Re doing zc:- I think it's very important to try out all the various kinds of diet first, whether raw vegan or zero-carb or whatever. So often as not, I've found that gurus from the various different disciplines all have something useful to say about a subject, and it's also true that no 1 guru(or human being, for that matter) is 100% infallible, so it pays to do as much experimentation on one's own as possible.
That's pretty much my view as well, though I try to be careful when experimenting that I don't do serious damage to myself.

I also agree with much of what has been said, and I also don't eat store-bought ground beef raw (grinding beef exposes it to more bacteria-carrying air, and you don't know how long it's been sitting around or what is was exposed to), which would seem to be more of a concern for someone like you with poor digestion and a compromised immune system, though you could grind your own cuts of beef and fat and eat it fresh.

My situation was similar to yours, though not quite as severe, so maybe my experience will help. Many of your symptoms, such as hypoglycemia and hormonal imbalances, suggest strong sensitivity to carbs, which I am also sensitive to. Going Paleo improved things for me, but I found that I had to replace much (though not all) of my remaining carbs with healthy fats to reverse a return of some symptoms. Based on my own experience and research, for what it's worth, these would be the foods I would suspect most (and these are suspect to most of the other responders as well, so that's pretty good confirmation):

sugar snap peas (and all legumes)
Bell peppers (and all nightshades)
apple cider vinegar (and all yeasts)
yam / sweet potato, water chestnuts (and all starches)

The peas and peppers I would cut out immediately and give them away or throw them out!!!!!! I was already off all legumes like peas when I cut out nightshades and found that helped further, which confirms what was said about them above. Turns out nightshades contain natural insecticides called saponins that trigger autoimmune reactions and exacerbate leaky gut syndrome--which is almost certainly part of your problem. Peas contain lectins that do the same thing. If someone recommends these foods for you, then you know they are not aware of the latest scientific research on this.

I'm not sure about coconut oil myself. If I eat too much I do get a bit of a stomachache, which may indicate something, but I haven't ruled it out completely. Like the others, I would recommend animal fats like marrow fat or suet over coconut oil--marrow from the long leg bone is the tastiest. I would skip the honey and replace the almond butter with raw almonds (or even skip nuts as well to start, since some people are allergic to them--but almonds do contain magnesium, albeit in less-absorbable plant form, which may be medicinal for you), at least until you're feeling much better. The fewer the questionable variables to start out with, the better, as others said.

Adding organs would be good, though I haven't been gotten used to them myself. You could try pasture-fed meats if you haven't already. I've found fish oil, wild salmon and walnuts (also high in omega 3s) to be beneficial for my GI tract and overall health too, so you could experiment with those, though I'll bet some people here don't like the fact that the fish oil is processed (I'm fairly new here too) and you may want to avoid nuts to start with. I see you're already eating some fish. Healthy fats are supposed to have an anti-inflammatory effect on the GI tract.

With your malabsorption/maldigestion you almost certainly have nutritional deficiencies--especially in minerals. For IBS-C prominence you may want to increase your magnesium (ex: fatty fish, pasture-fed meats, leafy greens, almonds, supplements). Unfortunately, physicians don't tend to test for deficiencies and I don't know how accurate the tests of the alternative labs are. Fiber/bulk supplements and laxatives deplete nutrients like minerals from the system and should be avoided--especially prescription versions--as does diarrhea. Luckily, it doesn't sound like you're using these.

Depending on your skin issue, you may find that zinc supplements help your skin, even though you're eating raw red meat. Zinc should only be taken on a full stomach as it can cause some nasty stomach upset and heartburn. If you have white spots on your nails, that's another symptom of zinc deficiency. Zinc deficiency can also contribute to frequent colds and flus, for it strengthens the immune system.

If none of this works you could go the really restricted route and try Lex Rooker's raw carnivorous diet (see his journal). TylerDurden has a different approach that allows some carbs which you could compare. Of course, with any of these suggestions, your mileage may vary.

It's apparently difficult for some people to bulk up on zero carb or all-raw, but I think your first priority should be to get your GI tract, immune system and other systems healthy. You may get lucky and only have to cut the legumes, peppers, vinegar and starches out, which would make it easier to bulk up. Different people seem to respond differently so there is quite a bit of controversy and different experiences with zero carb and 100% raw diets, as you'll find if you read enough of this forum. I am currently eating a very low carb mostly raw Paleo diet, so most people here are more strictly raw than I am and some eat fewer carbs.

Journals / Re: A day in the life of TylerDurden
« on: May 27, 2009, 08:32:19 am »
...The standard explanation for this is NOT that carbs are  themselves unhealthy, but that the bacteria which feed on/digest carbs in the gut get wiped out if no carbs are consumed for long periods, thus making digestion of carbs more difficult.
Ah yes. I discussed something along those lines in Lex's journal.

As regards the cooked-food-issue, I've heard claims that detox can be stopped if one readds enough cooked-foods(c.50% of diet?) - the Aajonus interpretation of that would be that that large an amount of cooked-foods overwhelms the body thus diverting the toxins into the fat-cells instead of them being expelled.
Interesting. It's at least plausible. It might be similar to how I didn't notice that gluten was doing a number on me because I was eating it so regularly that my body was constantly overwhelmed, resulting in a very gradual increase in chronic symptoms rather than a violent detox- or allergic-type reaction. It was only when I stopped eating gluten completely for over 3 weeks that my systems calmed down enough that a gluten challenge resulted in severe symptoms.

(I notice that as I quickly get obese if I eat any cooked animal food).
I almost wish that would happen to me, ;-) as I'm rather thin (I was born thin)--although I'd rather have muscle. That's one reason I'm reticent to go 100% raw--I don't want to get even thinner.

I wouldn't necessarily cal pemmican "socially acceptable". I've sen pictures of it and it sure looks disgusting in appearance.
Hah! Good one. Do you mean it looks like poop? :-D I think it kind of looks like brownies. I meant that it would be more socially acceptable than eating undried raw meat around other people. When I respond to questions with "I'm eating pemmican," people don't tend to freak out. If they ask me what it is, I say it's an old Indian convenience food. If I told them that pemmican is dried raw meat and fat they might freak out, though.

Raw fruit, by contrast, is no big deal for SAD-eaters as they do it all the time.
I've tried it. It spoils a bit too easily, smells, is messy, etc., although I sometimes do bring an apple or banana or a few strawberries to work. Unfortunately, there's no kitchen with it's own trash receptacle in my office, so fruit remnants tend to stink up the place. Plus, I like to have at least some meat. Also, jerky and fruit just doesn't satisfy me as much as it used to, now that I'm getting used to fat, so pemmican seemed like the obvious next step.

What I mean is that epigenetics can easily explain Inuit adaptation as effects of epigenetics(re the grandfather/smoking connection I gave you) as it can occur over after only a few generations and the Inuit lived at least 10,000 years in the Arctic(actually, given the Bering Strait crossover, it does seem more likely that they were in the Arctic from c.15,000 BC, but anyway).
Well, I read that they came over in waves, but if you're only talking a few generations, then it's a moot point. But then that raises the question of why I haven't adapted to the diet of the last 3 generations and more before me.

As regards adaptation to grains, remember that human(or any other) DNA is extremely fluid. For example, I get a far lower reaction to grains than most rawpalaeos, yet I have a much stronger reaction any kind of dairy than most RPDers, as well. So, IMO, there must be some limited adaptation going on(even if not remotely 100%).
Oh sure, I haven't seen anyone claim that there has been no adaptation at all over the last 10,000 years, but most scientists I've seen discuss the subject claim that our genes are not "substantially" different from what they were 100-200,000 years ago--since the time of the last species change to homo sapiens sapiens. A few vegans/vegetarians/SADers I've come across claimed that 10,000 years is more than enough to become fully adapted to agrarian foods. I highly doubt it. There's just too much evidence to the contrary. Partially, yes--but fully?

Re zero-carb:- What gets me re this is the notion of needing weeks or months to get any of the supposed benefits of zero-carb. When I first started the raw ZC diet, I was told to expect a few weeks(what Stefansson said), now it's several months or years if one believes the claims.Plus, if one so much as backslides, one has to go through the whole process all over again(though perhaps at a reduced rate). And for me, anything more than 6 weeks carb-free is avery dangerous.
I don't know. All I know is I've done better as I've cut back on the carbs. I think I'll try zero carb at some point, if for no other reason than to try it for myself and to be able to discuss it intelligently from experience with zero carbers. My guess is that I'll end up doing VLC over the long run--but I don't know aforehand.

I'd imagine that an Inuit bred on a near-zero-carb diet since birth would not only be much less likely to get negative effects from eating any berries in the summer but they would be better placed re epigenetics etc. to
hunt etc. while on zero-carb.
Agreed. I think they would also be better placed than SADers, vegans and vegetarians. Just like it sometimes takes time for a dog who has only been fed cooked and processed meat to re-acclimate to raw meat.

But it does seem a bit of an effort to wait for most of a lifetime to get the equivalent benefits that one can get on lc or vlc.
I have seen a ZCer admit that it took about a year to fully adapt to digesting 100% raw meat/fat/organs, though he reported that dramatic improvements began much earlier. It's taking me some time to adapt to animal fat (raw or cooked) and raw meat/organs too. Does that mean in your opinion I'm not adapted to eating those foods, even though I'm benefiting from them?

Journals / Re: A day in the life of TylerDurden
« on: May 26, 2009, 08:41:38 am »
Even if you are right about canines being opportunistic it is still true that in natural wild environment carnivorous have also eaten some berries and plants for millions of years
being 100% carnivorous is then unnatural
It's also true that the evidence suggests the primary and optimal diet for canines in the wild is carnivorous and that plant foods are basically last-resort foods. I would need to see counter-evidence before I would believe that 100% carnivore is unnatural for canines. They are not obligate carnivores, but to say that 100% carnivorous is therefore "unnatural" for them seems a stretch. That would seem to be like saying that eating beef and fish is unnatural if one doesn't also eat pork. Canines appear to do very well indefinitely on a carnivorous diet (and I also know some pet owners who have fed their dogs 100% carnivorous diets for many years and the dogs are apparently doing well). If you check those links I provided you'll find that the wild dog diets that were analyzed did not include any plant foods at all.

I do know quite a lot about Innuits and their diet
but they haven't lived in natural environment for humans - hence their lifespan has been shorter
homo sapiens has lived for millions of years in warm climate and fruits and plants have been present in their diet
Yes, but my question was how can we claim that a zero carb diet results in zero energy when zero-carb Inuit hunted whales? I eat some plant foods myself, so I'm not arguing against eating any plant foods, but I recognize that whale-hunting takes some energy.

Re dogs:- I believe that dogs can be fed on veg. Indeed, some extreme vegans force their dogs to eat only vegan or vegeterian meals. UIt's only cats who are obligate carnivores.
Quite right, and many of those extreme vegans use the bogus argument that if dogs can eat plant foods that they must be very good for them and therefore don't need meat. Again, I'm not arguing that dogs are obligate carnivores and I acknowledged from the start that they can eat some plant foods. That doesn't mean that plant foods are necessarily optimal for them. A dog owner once claimed to me that pancakes must be good for his dog because his dog likes them. Humans can eat and survive on the SAD diet, but that doesn't mean that SAD is optimal for humans.

Re "Paleophil":- Out of curiosity, are you also the "Paleophil" on the paleofood list?

Re pemmican:- Well, I've never felt the need to eat pemmican. Pemmican, after all, isn't a raw food, so it's only really seen as a possibility for those raw, zero-carbers who refuse to eat any carbs at all, and who find themselves in a situation where they can't find decent equivalent raw food sources.
OK, thanks for clarifying that. So if I decide to try zero carb and don't mind eating some tallow that has been heated, it sounds like pemmican would supply energy, though it might have other negative effects you talk about.

Most RAFers, instead, find that eating amounts of raw carbs(like raw fruit), during times of meat-scarcity,  is a far better alternative to eating cooked-animal-food as the latter generally gives detox-reactions(eg:- a hangover-like effect) once consumed, while eating raw fruit does no such harm(at least not to raw low-carbers).
It's interesting to see the different perspectives between the zero-carbers and 99-100% rawists. Zero-carbers tend to claim the opposite--that they get toxic reactions from eating carbs, but not necessarily from some cooked food--even if they eat mostly raw. I'll bet there have been some hum-dinger arguments over it. :-) I'm not currently doing either 100%--just learning with an open mind at this point.

.... So heated animal fats are not a solution for me re increasing physical activity, quite the opposite.
Yeah, it definitely sounds like they didn't work for you.

I'm interested in pemmican as a convenience food and more socially acceptable food than raw meat, in addition to the long storage life. If I experience the terrible effects that you did with it I won't keep eating it, but so far I haven't. My other alternative semi-Paleo convenience food is mixes of nuts and dried fruits--basically trail mix. I find nuts alone to be too dry and bland. I do well overall on trail mixes, but my dental health fares a bit worse than with jerky and pemmican, and since I've moved toward a more carnivorous diet (though I still include raw organic spring greens, berries, bananas and some other foods I seem to do well on), I've had some amazing improvements in my teeth and gums and in other ways.

Another point is that the Inuit are following diets quite unlike what the vast majority of (raw or cooked) zero-carbers are doing. The Inuit(on traditional diets), after all, eat vast amounts of  seafood, raw or cooked, including plenty of aged meats and a variety of  organ-meats, yet most zero-carbers don't seem to value either aged meat , let alone seafood, they just concentrate on fatty muscle-meats and water, for the most part, which is not very much like the Inuit diet of rotting whalemeat, seal-blubber etc.
OK, so what I'm getting out of this is, that if the right special foods are included then there will be sufficient energy provided by a zero-carb diet, but it may be difficult to get them in the modern societies or they may have carcinogenic or aging effects.

Also, it's been claimed by some scientists that the Inuit have specially adapted, on a genetic level, to zero-carb diets over many generations, so that they're less affected than people who start them only  later in life etc.. This makes some sense if you've read about the science of "epigenetics" which has shown how smoking by a grandfather can, for instance, influence the gene-expression of their grandchildren etc.
I don't buy that one. The people who claim that tend to be vegetarians/vegans with a predetermined agenda, looking for excuses to justify it. I say to them, "Show me the evidence." Most of the Inuit are believed to have migrated to the Arctic less than 10,000 years ago--some mere centuries ago. I am familiar with epigenetics, but I haven't seen scientists use it to explain the Inuit paradox. Also, there are people right in this forum and others who have been doing near-zero-carb for years without apparent ill effect. Doesn't mean it's good for everyone, of course--just means that we don't need epigenetics to explain Inuit survival and energy on zero carb diets.

Plus, if we claim that the Inuit underwent a special adaptation to zero carb via epigenetics in under 10,000 years, then we would also have to take seriously the vegetarian/vegan claims that people from societies that have been eating grains  for 10-20,000 years (the date keeps getting pushed back as roasted grains are found at older and older cooksites) and yams for far longer have also adapted via epigenetics. We can't use the argument ourselves and not allow our critics to do the same.

Thanks for the input. It's good to get different perspectives.

Journals / Re: A day in the life of TylerDurden
« on: May 25, 2009, 09:10:34 pm »
That's very true
look at the coyotes - they are carnivorous, they do like carrion, but they also eat some fruits and vegetables

My understanding is that canines are opportunistic carnivores. They will supposedly only eat plant foods if there are insufficient flesh foods available. So while they can survive on some plant foods, their optimal diet is believed to be 100% carnivore or very nearly so. Years ago I looked up analyses of African wild dog diets and they were 100% carnivorous--apparently there was sufficient prey available.

Here are some of the sources I found at the time (there may be some expired links):

African Wild Dog

Wild Dogs: Lowveld Wild Dogs Project

African Wild Dog: Habitat & Diet

Third Kruger Park Wild Dog Photographic Survey

Did anyone who lost strength or endurance on zero carb try pemmican as an energy source? Some people have claimed that works as well for them as carbs.

Interesting perspectives here. Playing devil's advocate, how does one explain those Greenland Inuit who were found to be 99% carnivore on average (meaning that some individuals must have been 100% carnivore), with only small amounts of summer berries eaten by some? Must we assume that they had low energy and strength? How did they find the energy to hunt whale? On the other hand, most Inuit in other areas were found to eat more plant foods than that.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: May 25, 2009, 08:24:03 pm »
Thanks much for all the info and help you've provided, Lex. A fairly conventional Paleo diet in which I ate only foods OK'd by both NeanderThin and The Paleo Diet (except that I ate more fatty meats and eggs than The Paleo Diet recommended) produced incredible improvements for me some years ago, but then I had been gradually experiencing some return of symptoms. I eliminated questionable foods like nightshades, winter squashes, sugary juices and the occasional cola drink cheat and that helped significantly, but figured I needed to also increase my healthy animal fat and raw meat consumption further and cut back further on carbs. Your and Del Fuego's posts inspired me to get going on that and the additional improvements have been dramatic.

Interestingly, just months after I cut out nightshades Dr. Cordain reported research results from his team that implicated tomatoes and potatoes--both nightshades--in leaky gut syndrome and autoimmune disease. It's looking more and more like nightshades are not Paleo and raw meats/organs/fats and insects were probably the foundation of the Paleo diet.

Welcoming Committee / Re: please help with my eczema
« on: May 23, 2009, 08:39:34 pm »
Well, first of all, ...

Addressing all your points directly would produce an overly long and probably confusing discourse--sorry Tyler. Suffice it to say that your assumptions about what I was thinking are off the mark. I rarely intend any hidden additional meanings beyond what I write, so trying to read different meanings between my lines will generally result in a misread.

I daresay, though that any mention of real-ale should come with a warning for the gluten-intolerant.
That is the key point I was addressing--so we agree on the key point. The other details are less important. My post was a warning for the gluten-intolerant, being particularly gluten-intolerant myself. My view is that all human beings are essentially gluten intolerant to greater or less degrees since we are not designed/adapted to eat gluten grains--or any grains for that matter. My understanding was that most Paleo dieters agree on this.

Welcoming Committee / Re: please help with my eczema
« on: May 22, 2009, 03:08:17 pm »
Actually, many of us do compromise occasionally  if only for  social reasons. Real ale(aka "cask-brewed ale"/"bottle-conditioned beer") is actually technically (partially) OK as it's raw(unpasteurised) and full of bacteria. ...

I don't drink barley-containing ales, raw or not, because barley is a gluten-grain and I am gluten intolerant. The rawness doesn't get rid of the barley, nor does it get rid of the refined carbs. Everything that's raw is not good (raw fava and castor beans are very bad for you, for example). Barley ales and yeast are also not considered Paleo. The oldest fermented drink is mead and there is no evidence (at least not yet) that it was consumed as a staple beverage during the Paleolithic era. So raw barley ale fails, or is at least questionable, on 5 counts (contains barley, refined carbs, yeast and alcohol, and is not Paleo).

I have seen people claim that raw, sprouted whole grains and raw dairy are not a problem for anyone. That is not true for me, nor for some other people in this forum.

Yes, John seems to be a busy man, probably well-intentioned but overwhelmed. I also bought the tub of tallow and noticed that it has the same off-taste I don't care for that his pemmican has--so I think that's the main source of it, rather than the salt or jerky. I'm happy for the other people that like it, and maybe it's just a matter of a gamey taste I have to get used to, but at present it's not for me. I wish US Wellness well and hope their products improve with time, but I will be trying Slanker's the next go-round. [And, no, I don't work for Slanker's and haven't even tried their products yet, but Lex's opinions carry a lot of weight with me. He hasn't steered me wrong yet and his pemmican was much milder-tasting than USW's.]

I also recently tried eating plain supermarket marrow fat and noticed it is pure white and has no significant taste--kind of like hard cream. It's on the opposite side of the spectrum of the strong-tasting USW tallow and pemmican, with Lex's mellow pemmican in between. Marrow is supposed to be the caviar of pemmican fat, and I can see that if the wild/pasture-fed stuff is anything like the supermarket stuff. People also say that intramuscular fat tastes even better, but that is not true pemmican fat, of course, and doesn't contain as much of that healthy saturated fat!  >D

John should offer to hire you, Lex.

My Wellness Meats tub of pemmican got moldy too. I had stored it in the fridge for some days, which may account for it. Even after cutting off all the edges for a good inch or more and keeping it out of the fridge, the mold came back and I had to throw it all away. The Indians used to seal off their rawhide bags of pemmican with a layer of fat. Maybe that sealing is required to get the indefinite storage without spoilage that people claim for pemmican.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: May 17, 2009, 10:11:20 am »
I still brush, but then I'm still eating some carbs. I do plan to try mostly raw, near-zero carb soon though, once it's convenient, since I do seem to do very well on meat and fat and my ability to digest fat is improving. I've noticed that raw meat is tasting better to me and now when I start to eat beef jerky or raw meat my mouth starts salivating an amazing amount. Makes me feel like a wolf.  ;D  The biggest problem will likely be the social turn-off factor. My girlfriend gets disgusted just from my mention of eating raw meat.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: May 16, 2009, 07:43:51 pm »
Uh ho, I'm going to get into trouble now.  The truth is that I never brush my teeth anymore.  I just use plain water in a WaterPic in the morning after my shower and that's it.  The WaterPic flushes the gunk out of the gums and from between the teeth.  I've always had calculus build up on my teeth and it doesn't seem to matter if I brush or not, the build up is about the same either way so why bother.

Aha! Caught ya!  ;)  One of the interesting facts about Stone Agers is that their dental remains show very low rates of caries despite not having tooth brushes or dental floss to clean their teeth and gums with. They likely used twigs and perhaps leaves or hide rags. My own calculus builds up mainly where my teeth are malaligned, so I think proper alignment had a lot to do with it. I do notice that I have less white crud on my teeth and gums the closer to zero carb I go, my teeth are whiter, my gums less inflamed, and an exposed root is no longer painful.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: May 16, 2009, 09:17:25 am »
Lex, how often do you have to brush your teeth on your raw meat/fat/organ diet?

Although I am still transitioning over to the paleo diet I can confirm that meat, especially red meat, does wonders for my sex drive and erections. Many philosophies and religions tell you to avoid meat if you are trying to abstain.
Yes, and the Seventh Day Adventist vegetarian Dr. John Harvey Kellogg advocated corn flakes and soy milk and discouraged meat eating in part as a way to reduce the sex drive, which he thought was sinful and unhealthy ( It's fascinating how he convinced people that symptoms of poor health are actually signs of good health and that unnatural behavior is "normal" and even virtuous. Of course, nowadays views have changed and Viagra has helped a lot of vegetarians and SAD devotees keep their libido going.  ;D

There are other examples, too. Mohandis K. Gandhi considered himself oversexed and adopted a vegetarian diet in large part to reduce his sex drive.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: May 14, 2009, 08:13:14 am »
I'm not sure what study Phil is referencing, but I've read similar theories in the past and I'm pretty skeptical.  The stuff I read was poorly done and the documentation was practically nonexistent.  All they really had were some "extrapolated" guesses based on subjective comments about "feelings" after eating various foods.

I also have not found this to be true for me.  My cravings for various foods lasted long after intestinal bacteria would would have changed. 

I too would be interested if Phil had something a bit more scientific on the subject.


The only reason I mentioned the study I had heard reported, was because it seemed to support everything you said, so I didn't think it would be controversial. I'm not particularly interested in defending the study, as it doesn't hold much relevance for me beyond scientific curiosity and further confirmation of the good sense of eating a meat/organ/fat-based diet--which I didn't really need anyway--but if you're interested, here are some links:

Our Germs, Ourselves

A core gut microbiome in obese and lean twins.

I don't recall anything about "feelings" mentioned in the reports on this study.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: May 01, 2009, 07:26:34 pm » thinking is that we are often fed incorrect foods from the time we are born, (just like the tree in the nursery).  Our bodies do their best to adapt to the unnatural environment.  Enzymes appropriate to the foods we are eating become dominant.  Bacteria in our digestive tracts develop to feast on the large carb load we consume.  The large mass of waste products created (fiber anyone) distends and weakens our colons.  Our muscles and other body systems become used to large amounts of blood glucose always being present.  In other words, like the tree in the corner of the yard, we've created a totally unnatural environment for our bodies for most of our lives.

Then we suddenly decide that what we are doing is not right, and embark on a new path that is completely opposite from what we were doing before.  No longer are we going to eat cooked starches, we're now going to eat nothing but meat and  we're going to eat it raw!  To our bodies this is creates an environment similar to our corner tree suddenly experiencing drought.  The enzymes our bodies are making are suddenly inappropriate for the new food we are eating.  The large amount of bacteria in our digestive tracts that are dependant on carbs and fiber to survive start to die off, creating toxins in the process.  ...
Yes, and a study I heard about recently even confirmed that which bacteria dominate our guts changes depending on what we eat, and the bacteria that are there signal the brain to desire more of the foods that those bacteria eat. So if we eat lots of white flour pizza, we feed refined-carb-loving bacteria, who multiply and send signals to the brain for more refined carbs.

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