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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: RAWSOME Food RAIDED in a MOB style RAID and James (Owner) Taken to JAIL
« on: August 06, 2011, 07:45:31 pm »
Quote from: Eric on August 06, 2011, 03:58:38 am
I care, because the individuals who are making the choice are not the only ones who are bearing the cost. There are many costs not borne by those who are directly making choices. Why should someone who has no direct say in the making of a choice be forced to bear some of the costs?

I did not say that others should be forced to bear some of the costs. That is an issue to be settled legally. It is called a tort. The problem is non-settlement of disputes, and it is the responsibility of the injured party to seek settlement. It is as if I dumped my garbage on your front lawn. So sue me.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 06, 2011, 08:02:43 am »
I ate a half pound of 78/22 ground beef along with 2 large pieces of heart (about 8 oz.), and about 1/3 lb. of bone marrow, washed down with blood from the heart. It was very satisfying. I felt great all day, doing some strength exercises earlier in the day. My mood is very good. The higher amount of fat I have been eating keeps hunger at bay for a long time. I was hungry today but not nearly as hungry as yesterday or the day before. If this continues I will not be hungry until Sunday. If that happens I may cut down on the fat a little, but for now I am enjoying it.

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General Discussion / Re: How do you do this thing practically and get the deep healing?
« on: August 06, 2011, 04:08:04 am »
Quote from: Dorothy on August 03, 2011, 09:12:46 am
When you suggest using one of my eggs do you mean leaving it in the shell on the counter for a very long time?

I was thinking more of using methods used in preparation of high meat, like putting it in a jar with room for air and airing it out every 3 or 4 days, until the desired "highness" is achieved.

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General Discussion / Re: How do you do this thing practically and get the deep healing?
« on: August 06, 2011, 02:50:32 am »
Quote from: goodsamaritan on August 03, 2011, 04:17:04 pm
When you visit Manila, the butchering culture here is to butcher around 12 midnight and deliver to the wet markets by 4am, carve and display by 5am.

You wanna see videos of beef still fresh with muscles still twitching?

Or you can pick a live goat and it will be slaughtered in front of you.


When I visited a slaughterhouse I noticed that the back muscles were still twitching many minutes after the animal was dead and cut in half. I was surprised.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Braaaaains
« on: August 06, 2011, 12:59:25 am »
The link,http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Fact_Sheets/Slaughter_Inspection_101/index.asp, has some good information regarding the inspection procedure that the USDA uses to identify if SRMs (Specified Risk Materials, which includes brain) are present in cattle being slaughtered. I have been reading up on this because I am searching for a source of beef brains and know that it will probably be a fight with the USDA and their inspectors.

According to this page, http://www.fsis.usda.gov/ofo/tsc/bse_information.htm, the appearance of the second incisor in the teeth of cattle is, according to USDA inspection guidelines, sufficient to consider the cattle to be 30 months or older, and thus certain parts, such as brains, are to be considered SRMs. So the actual age of cattle that you would realistically be able to have a processor get you the brains from would need to be 24 month of age or younger. The USDA considers their method to add a "margin of safety."

Does anyone know at what age grass-fed cattle are typically slaughtered? When I visited a small slaughterhouse the (grass-fed) animals being processed were young, about 18 months if I remember correctly. How old are animals processed for veal?

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Journals / Re: eveheart's Journal
« on: August 06, 2011, 12:47:31 am »
Quote from: eveheart on July 31, 2011, 08:02:48 pm
I asked my butcher about brains. He says that beef brains were banned because of mad-cow disease. Is this true? (I'm in California.) He's asking his supplier about getting lamb brains.

Beef brains are not banned, but it is a common misconception among butchers (and even USDA inspectors).

This is from the UDSA website (http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Fact_Sheets/Slaughter_Inspection_101/index.asp):

# Livestock slaughter and processing establishments must maintain written procedures for removing, segregating and disposing of specified risk materials (SRMs) so they do not enter the food supply.

# SRMs are high-risk tissues that pose the greatest risk of containing the agent associated with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (also known as BSE or "mad cow disease").

# Some examples of SRMs are the brain, skull, eyes, trigeminal ganglia, spinal cord, vertebral column, and dorsal root ganglia of cattle 30 months of age and older; the tonsils of all cattle; and the distal ileum of all cattle.

If the cattle are under 30 months of age (according to the USDA, which has certain guidelines for determining this), then the brain is considered suitable for human consumption and can be sold.

See this thread:

http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/carnivorous-zero-carb-approach/braaaaains/

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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: RAWSOME Food RAIDED in a MOB style RAID and James (Owner) Taken to JAIL
« on: August 06, 2011, 12:31:09 am »
Quote from: Eric on August 04, 2011, 11:00:03 am
And the point that I'm trying to make is that freedom always comes at a cost, and I'm asking at what point the cost becomes too great. The cost to the individuals who consume dairy, raw or pasteurized, grass fed and organic or grain fed and pumped full of growth hormones and antibiotics, is one thing. The cost to the land is another issue entirely, and this is where I'm willing to raise objections to the dairy industry, raw and organic or otherwise. Cattle, particularly when raised for dairy where feed and forage must be closely managed and controlled, is very hard on the land. Raising cattle for meat is much gentler on the land because it's easier to incorporate polycultures, although bison are far better adapted to polycultural foraging in temperate climates than cattle and of course no one would remotely consider attempting to milk a bison.

Who cares what the cost is if it is born by individuals of their own choice?

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 06, 2011, 12:11:01 am »
I had a bowel movement today around noon. It was pretty normal looking, a type 3, normal dark brown color. It has been just over 5 days since my last BM. Everything seems fine without fiber so far.

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Journals / Re: Max's Journal
« on: August 05, 2011, 09:02:44 am »
Max, how are things going? I see you haven't posted in awhile. Hope all is well.

I have been eating RZC now for 11 days and it has gotten easier for me. The hardest part for me has been knowing when to stop eating (that is, stopping when I am full). I notice a subtle change in the flavor of my food and it is no longer palatable, so I just put my leftovers away until the next day. I have been eating lots of fat, which I wasn't doing before. Fats are key for me.

I am not a big fan of heart either. I just eat a little bit here and there, really just a few ounces with some meals, which are mostly ground beef and fat. I eat it for the CoQ10. Like you, I find that sometimes it tastes good and othertimes not so good. I just make it the first thing I eat. When I am hungry I am less picky about taste.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 05, 2011, 08:35:32 am »
I felt great today, mentally and physically. I ate the same as yesterday. No bowel movements since the morning of the 31st of July, over 4 days now. I expected this so I am not surprised. I have been feeding my cat a raw meat diet and he only goes about once a week.

I should mention that I have been drinking about 2 liters of water a day since I started eating RZC. I am not sure how much I was drinking before, but I have been keeping track since I started eating this way. I am usually thirstiest in the morning and drink a lot of water then, but the amount tapers off by the afternoon. And I never drink water and am not thirsty after my meal, unless I go to sleep at a late time.

My sleep has been a little erratic due to socializing with friends, I have lost a few hours here and there from staying up late. Tomorrow I do not have to work so I will probably take a nap in the afternoon and get recharged. I usually want to take naps in the afternoon but cannot on days when I work.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 04, 2011, 08:47:22 am »
Tonight I ate a pound of 22% fat beef, about 3-4 oz. of buffalo heart and a lot of bone marrow (about 1/3 lb.) from a buffalo leg bone. The bone marrow was extremely rich, it has been awhile since I had raw marrow, I forgot how delicious it is. The only thing I can compare it to is eating butter.

I had good energy and my mood today was excellent. Tomorrow I am getting a large shipment of meat and fat so I should be set on food for awhile. I also should be getting a scale soon so I will have more accurate records of what I am eating.

I also have been looking into getting beef brains. I have contacted several farmers and I might have to talk to some USDA inspectors. I am prepared to pay a lawyer to write up something for me if I meet a lot of resistance from the inspector. Hopefully I can find a reliable source.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 04, 2011, 08:40:20 am »
Quote from: eveheart on August 03, 2011, 09:54:45 am
Those deposits sound like dental calculus. Are you against cleaning your own teeth or having your teeth cleaned by a dentist? I believe that rotting gums can be a source of toxins to your own body, and you can pass toxic dental bacteria to others by kissing.

I have some tooth decay, which I am hoping can be halted or reversed by eating RZC. I dont't know if I need to clean them eating this was, there is almost no sugar in my diet. Just the tiny amount of glycogen here and there in liver and such.

Quote from: eveheart on August 03, 2011, 09:54:45 am
I had a lot of gum problems in the past. I believe that, if I had had a better diet, dental problems would have never started. My father lost his teeth at 40 due to bad dental hygiene. Losing my first tooth to root decay convinced me that I wanted to take better care of my teeth. I have practiced dental self-sufficiency for almost a decade from information I learned at mizar5.com. I get low-cost dental cleanings with my dental insurance, and the dentist always compliments my good dental hygiene.

I have not been to a dentist or a doctor since I was 18 or 19 years old. I am now 32 years old. If my diet is healthy I should be able to avoid such practicioners for another decade. I do want to see a doctor to have him check my various vitals.

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General Discussion / Re: How do you do this thing practically and get the deep healing?
« on: August 03, 2011, 07:58:33 am »
Quote from: Dorothy on August 03, 2011, 02:45:44 am
Oh yes Tyler - I know about high meats. It's more about being a newbie. High meat I'm putting in the "advanced" pile of my paleo "to do" list. After how long in the fridge does it start to become "high".

But if unfrozen always tastes better - then I need to find a way that is close enough to home to get fresh organic, grass-fed unfrozen frequently.

Thank you yet again.

I bought 1/4 of a cow from a farmer and the butcher agreed not to freeze certain parts of my order. Most butchers will work with you, especially if you are buying an entire animal or a large part of one. I made 10 lbs. of high meat which was amazing. They also gave me lungs, glands, eyes and so on. They wouldn't give me the head or brain, though.  :P

I found high meat to be delicious and I had only been eating a RPD for a few months. You could always try it by setting a small amount of meat aside. Or you could use one of your eggs.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Braaaaains
« on: August 03, 2011, 07:26:58 am »
So, if brains from cows younger than 30 months can be legally sold, where can we buy them? If I had know this detail I might have gotten brains from the slaughterhouse I went to to get lungs, eyes, etc. I remember several of the cows they slaughtered were less than 30 months old. But they are far away and wouldn't ship.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 03, 2011, 07:24:07 am »
I wanted to note that I have experienced headache-like symptoms. But unlike actual headaches, they never fully develop and always go away within 15-20 minutes. I have been getting them on average every other day since I started eating RZC. Otherwise, I have not had problems with headaches in years. I used to get migraines a lot but some change I made in the past ended those. It was either quitting smoking or cutting down on sugar.

Also, I remember reading (I think it was in Lex's journal) about small, hard deposits behind the lower front teeth. It supposedly is calcium (if I remember correctly). Well, I can feel such deposits with my tongue, they have been there for a few days now. Not sure what to do (if anything). Maybe they will go away eventually. I am going to take a picture of my rotting gums to post here, as I am curious if they will show improvement eating RZC.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 02, 2011, 08:49:44 pm »
Quote from: Busgrw on August 02, 2011, 08:28:55 pm
Stick at it Magnetic. You're doing a brilliant job and I for one am enjoying your posts. Hope you get all the health and happiness you search for.  ;)

Thank you for the words of support. Only time will tell whether my chosen diet is successful, so I thought it would be a good idea to post regularly so that I do not fool myself about what I am doing.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 02, 2011, 08:09:00 pm »
I finished reading Lex's journal last night (currently at 136 pages, 1353 posts). It was an interesting read.

One thing he mentions is that for him, energy levels have more to do with mood than anything else. While this may be true for him, I find that energy levels and mood are completely disconnected. I can have a high mood and low energy, or low mood and high energy, and many variations in-between. He has been eating ZC for much longer, however. It may be individual (biological) differences between us, subtle differences in our diet, or the fact that I have not been eating ZC for long. Time may tell.

I did not see any mention of depression in his journal either, so we do not have that in common (I think). My reason for eating this was is that it is the only thing that seems to help with my depression (as evidenced by eating LC/VLC). I have not tried any prescription drugs or herbs, nor do I have any desire to take them (and I do have health insurance). No animal gets depressed (the mother that loses its child is only temporarily saddened). I theorize that if I eat the diet that my physiology has evolved to process then that might alleviate or extinguish my mental problems. For me, depression is extremely debilitating, more so as my diet approximates a standard western diet (high in grains, legumes and dairy).

I have been eating RZC for a week now. I feel good. But it is too early to tell whether this way of eating will solve my problem with depression.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 02, 2011, 06:52:23 am »
I ate much the same meal today as yesterday, but a bit more liver and more fat. No bowel movements. I put in an order for ground beef and bone marrow. Energy was pretty good. Since I ate a bit more than yesterday it will be interesting to see how my energy is tomorrow. I have been increasing my caloric intake a little each day by adding extra fat. Once I can go a whole day, have high energy and not be hungry at my normal feeding time (6-7pm) I will know I am eating enough fat, and can back off a bit on the amount of the previous day. Then I might weigh the food until I get a better feeling for how much to eat. The volume is far less than what I am used to (SAD).

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hey Y'all
« on: August 01, 2011, 11:30:37 am »
So what brought you here? Did you have any specific health issues? What are your reasons for adopting or considering a raw paleo diet?

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General Discussion / Re: Calculating Percent Calories From Fat/Protein
« on: August 01, 2011, 11:28:27 am »
Quote from: klowcarb on August 01, 2011, 04:29:25 am
Fitday has all foods raw or cooked. I have no idea what you are talking about. I eat the majority of my VLC diet foods raw, and I use Fitday. I have only 2 custom foods because everything I eat is in the database.

I couldn't find information for deer and elk meats, organs, bone marrow, etc.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 01, 2011, 09:36:00 am »
Tonight's meal was the same as yesterday's, eaten a little later because I was not hungry until later. I am going to place an order soon for grass-fed meat/organ mix and marrow bones, which will be my food for awhile, once I have exhausted the ground beef, beef and pork organs, ground pork, and wild fish in my freezer. I don't have much fat so I am going to order some suet to eat with the meat in my freezer. I really like fatty meals and want to settle on a regimen that's 80-85% fat for awhile and see how I feel. I also ordered a scale so I can weigh my food and have a better idea of how much I am eating.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: July 31, 2011, 11:07:37 pm »
No bowel movements yesterday, but I had one this morning. It was large (bulky), somewhere between a 3 and a 4 on the BSS, and a bit moist. I have good energy, better than yesterday, which I attribute to the extra fat I ate with my meal last night. I have been sleeping well, around 8 hours a night.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: July 31, 2011, 06:36:47 am »
Today my energy was a little lower, I think this is due to my meal yesterday being low in fat. Tonight I ate a pound of beef with a good 1/8 lb. of fat added (I estimate), and 1/5 lb. of liver.

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Health / Re: Do you have problems eating fruit? I did, but not any more...
« on: July 30, 2011, 08:33:08 pm »
Quote from: Modern Primate on July 30, 2011, 10:08:50 am
Much of the research and communication with individuals I've done makes it quite clear that even when cooked foodists (zero carb) or even raw vegans adopt a low sugar diet (including 0 fruit) that their health oft benefits. Now one can argue to some degree against the pitfalls and shortcommings there. It does not say that in the case of zero carb or low sugar vegans that the diet that they choose or works for them to restore health is in fact our natural diet..

I didn't know there was such a thing as a low sugar vegan diet. It would have to be either calorie restricted or use tons of unnatural oils, like coconut oil or olive oil. Those are second-rate fats (even if they are better than corn and soybean oil). How is that at all comparable to a zero carb or low carb diet, raw or cooked?

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Health / Re: Do you have problems eating fruit? I did, but not any more...
« on: July 30, 2011, 08:21:12 pm »
Quote from: JW on July 30, 2011, 09:44:27 am
I don't know if he was raw, but 'Castle Grok' was a paleo LC/ZCer who went fruitarian as an experiment and decided he liked it better. http://castlegrok.com/

He wasn't raw, and in fact writes off raw as being dangerous and conferring no additional dietary benefits:
http://castlegrok.com/reader-questions-meat-exercise/

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