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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 23, 2011, 06:30:36 am »
Today, my meal consisted of 14 ounces ground buffalo, 3 oz. buffalo liver, and 2 chicken eggs, all raw.

That's 109g protein, 41.3g fat and 4.2g carbohydrate. 829 calories, 45% fat, 53% protein, 2% carbs. KR=1.22

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

What I found surprising was that I was not hungry all day, not until my meal time. I ate around 5:30pm yesterday and just after 6pm today, so my small meal yesterday was enough to keep hunger at bay. I suppose my body is using its fat stores. Today's meal was also small. I finished the buffalo and free-range chicken eggs, next on the menu will be pastured ground pork and pork liver.

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Off Topic / Re: Water purification
« on: August 22, 2011, 07:56:22 pm »
Quote from: Techydude on August 22, 2011, 09:52:33 am
Im in the US , New York State, Specf New York City.


Is there like a directory of spring water locations, or sites with glass bottles for spring water, etc omg I wish this were all in one place. Finding all of this is stressful and confusing.

http://www.findaspring.com/

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 22, 2011, 07:16:17 am »
I had a BM last night after my meal, same as usual. I also had one tonight after my meal, though this one was diarrhea-like. It only lasted a short time and was not too painful. I am not sure what caused it. Perhaps it was those eggs that I ate? Everything else has been beef until the buffalo liver I ate yesterday.

Today, my meal consisted of 13 ounces ground buffalo, 6 oz. buffalo liver, and 1 chicken egg, all raw. I also had a tiny bit of lard left over from my cooked-paleo transition to raw paleo a month ago. It was less than an ounce, about a spoonful or 1/2 ounce, I would say.

That's 114g protein, 51.3g fat and 7.1g carbohydrate. 956 calories, 48% fat, 49% protein, 3% carbs. KR=1.26

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

This is a departure from what I have been eating, but now that I am out of marrow I will have to rely on my body's store of fat for a little while. The calorie intake is low, but if my body is adapted to burning fat, it should be able to easily switch to using my belly fat that I have stored. I have a few extra pounds on my belly from eating so much marrow, now I will find out if my body is ready to use it. I am relying on mostly protein to take care of hunger.

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Off Topic / Re: Drugs and alcohol
« on: August 21, 2011, 06:28:51 pm »
Quote from: nicole on August 20, 2011, 12:56:01 pm
Marijuana doesn't seem to have any positive health effects when smoked and it just makes a person too relaxed and carefree. i don't want to be relaxed. i want to be on the top of my game at all times, especially at work-always pushing the limit. also when i want to be relaxed, i do just that. Lay down on my bed and relax. I don't need to pay $5 each time to do it and cause lung damage.

And drinking alcohol may be healthfully okay when done in small amounts, but i really don't think it is good for a person. Getting drunk is so gross. Throwing up and being all promiscuous, yuck. I don't care to be ininhibited. I love being inhibited. I like being uptight. It's fun, having a good time with my wits fully intact. And sometimes people ask me "so are you just the designated driver or something?" I just laugh "heck no, I may not be a real social butterfly, but i've got better things to do than drive a bunch of drunk people around all night. i'd rather stay home and watch a 3 hour golden girls marathon than do that"

Marijuana is a useful medicine that is abused, in the sense that it is taken when medicine is not needed. Those who take it are usually "self-medicating." They are dulling the pain of life. What they need is true healing, such as adopting a raw paleo diet regimen. But they know no other way or will not listen so they smoke pot.

I see things now as you see them, though it was not always that way. I have come to appreciate awareness. People who drink often and in excess have little appreciation for their own awareness.

There are comparisons between meditation and shamanic practices and drug-induced states, things like sweat lodges and trance-like states brought about by dancing and chanting. These things interest me and I think they are a way to expand awareness without the harm of drugs or alcohol.

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Off Topic / Re: Yo Brits! What is the real story about the London Riots? Looting? Mayhem?
« on: August 21, 2011, 06:12:25 pm »
Quote from: Iguana on August 21, 2011, 04:05:40 pm
Tribal men share everything: there was no private property within Paleolithic tribes. It’s clear that private property was brought about by agriculture and the end of nomadic life in the Neolithic era. Even a few years ago, the notion of private property was unknown for Polynesians: if you have more than them, they take away from you; if they have more than you, they give you.

Just like the Neolithic and modern diets, the social structures born out of the Neolithic way of life are incompatible with our genetic dispositions and are therefore not sustainable. That’s one more reason why every civilization ends up in collapse.

Tribal men are not members of paleolithic tribes, you conflate the two. Not all tribal men share everything, that is just a flat out lie. Some tribal people may live communally, but most tribes have customs for what property is owned. Gift economies can function like private-property economies, so no currency is needed.. A tribe is just a kinship-based group, a form of large, extended family.

Paleolithic men formed hunting bands, and were the primary providers. Women were of biological necessity forced to care for the young, and limited to hunting small game animals and gathering fruit, berries, edible plants, etc. Egalitarianism is a myth, social stratification the norm. The more intelligent, strong, cunning, etc. would have been given first choice for eating, mating, etc.

Civilization ends in collapse because individuals lose interest in their own affairs, they hand over power to a small group of individuals who promise utopia: free health care, bread and circuses, etc. This socialist utopian thinking comes to dominate a society and then it collapses because no one is producing, there are too many parasites.

It is as if you  had a tribe where everyone was the chief, and no one wanted to hunt. It would not last long.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Magnesium Intake on RZC
« on: August 21, 2011, 09:26:37 am »
Quote from: klowcarb on August 21, 2011, 09:24:31 am
It is associated in my mind with the stupid Walmart muscle meat only diet of ZIOH>

Oh, I am not familiar with that. So it is a diet of 100% muscle meat from Wal-Mart? Which means it is all grain-fed, correct? Sounds painful.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 21, 2011, 08:43:26 am »
Today, my meal consisted of 1 lb. ground beef, 4 oz. buffalo liver, 7.5 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 124g protein, 240g fat and 4.4g carbohydrate. 2684 calories, 81% fat, 19% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=2.72

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt in the morning.

I am now out of my regular grass-fed beef and marrow bones. The only animal fat I have access to is raw grass-fed butter and pastured pig lard, so maybe I will try those. I get more marrow bones on Thursday next week.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 20, 2011, 08:11:25 pm »
One thing that stands out about Perrier is the relatively high levels of sulfate and nitrate. There seem to be conflicting studies regarding whether nitrate is healthful or harmful at certain levels. For instance:

Can nitrate affect adults?

Although red blood cells quickly return to normal, some health conditions can make people more susceptible to health problems from nitrate. Individuals with the following health conditions should not drink water with more than 10 mg/L of nitrate:

    * Individuals who don’t have enough stomach acids.
    * Individuals with an inherited lack of the enzyme that converts affected red blood cells back to normal (methemoglobin reductase).
    * Women who are pregnant or trying to become pregnant. High nitrate levels may increase the risk of spontaneous abortion or certain birth defects. (http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehp/dw/Programs/nitrate.htm)


For half a century, inorganic nitrate has been associated with negative health effects, but more recently, evidence of the contrary has mounted. In the 1990s, a research group at Karolinska Institutet demonstrated how the body can convert nitrate to NO, a molecule involved in many important bodily functions, such as blood pressure regulation, the immune defence and cell metabolism. These compounds can ameliorate mitochondrial dysfunction related diseases, The results, which are published in Cell Metabolism, are of sports-physiological interest, as they show that nitrate reduces oxygen consumption during physical exercise; however, they are also of potential significance to diseases involving mitochondrial dysfunction, such as diabetes and cardiovascular disease. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrate#Human_health_effects)

For sulphate...

Adverse effects have been noted in individuals whose drinking water source contains high levels of inorganic sulfate. Osmotic diarrhea resulting from unabsorbed sulfate has been described and may be of particular concern in infants consuming fluids derived from water sources with high levels of sulfate. Some association between increased hydrogen sulfide production and risk of ulcerative colitis has been noted as well, but has not been adequately evaluated. Overall, there is insufficient information available to set a Tolerable Upper Intake Level for sulfate. (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10925&page=424)


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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 20, 2011, 07:55:06 pm »
I started drinking Perrier this morning. Here is the mineral composition I found online (http://mineralwaters.org/index.php?func=disp&parval=1953) and the amount per 750mL bottle, as well as a comparison to Ferrarelle:

Acidity (pH): 5.46
Total Dissolved Solids: 475 mg/L = 356mg/750mL
Calcium: 147.3 mg/L = 110.5 mg/750mL >> Perrier has less than 1/3 as much
Magnesium: 3.4 mg/L = 2.6 mg/750mL >> Perrier has about 1/7 as much
Sodium: 9 mg/L = 6.75 mg/750mL >> none listed for Ferrarelle
Potassium: 0.6 mg/L = 0.45 mg/750mL >> Ferrarelle has about 115 times as much
Bicarbonate: 390 mg/L = 293 mg/750mL >> Ferrarelle has almost 5 times as much, it is much fizzier
Chloride: 21.5 mg/L = 16.1 mg/750mL >> only 20% less than Ferrarelle
Sulphate: 33 mg/L = 25 mg/750mL >> 11 times more than Ferrarelle
Fluoride: 0.12 mg/L = 0.09 mg/750mL >> Ferrarelle has about 10 times as much
Nitrate: 18 mg/L =13.5 mg/750mL >> Perrier has about 2.5 times more

After drinking a bottle of Perrier, I can say I definitely prefer Ferrarelle. I have a case of Perrier so I will be drinking it for the next 3-4 days. Maybe I will acquire a taste for it.

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Hot Topics / Re: Salt raises blood pressure, raises chance of cardiovascular disease etc.
« on: August 20, 2011, 07:38:04 pm »
Quote from: Dorothy on August 17, 2011, 01:08:21 am
Mag - fat always tastes good with salt to me. I'm glad that it's part of the paleo diet because even though I can imagine no longer eating vegetables, I can't imagine my life without salt.

You bring up a good point too - my water is reverse osmosis and therefore devoid of natural minerals.   

I never add salt to my food, I prefer it without any added flavor or seasonings. But I do like eating the salt by itself. In the wild, humans would have come across natural deposits of salt and eaten/licked it. Also, I am not eating much seafood these days.

A solution to buying mineral water is making your own: http://www.scientificpsychic.com/health/mineral-water.html. I have not tried it but it would be better than drinking purified water, which will leach salts (Sodium, Potassium, Magnesium) out of the body.

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Off Topic / Re: Yo Brits! What is the real story about the London Riots? Looting? Mayhem?
« on: August 20, 2011, 09:34:22 am »
Now New York is preparing for riots: http://www.infowars.com/new-york-cops-prepare-for-civil-unrest/

In a way, they might materialize as a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Off Topic / Re: Fiat currency
« on: August 20, 2011, 09:26:21 am »
Quote from: PaleoPhil on August 20, 2011, 09:23:50 am
Making the debt cheap by inflating the currency is seen by gov'ts as the least painful way out of debt-ridden collapse.

You are right... it is the least painful solution... for the politicians.  ;D

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Tried Paleo for one month...
« on: August 20, 2011, 09:23:43 am »
Quote from: Wolf on August 12, 2011, 12:51:32 pm
I think that is mostly because blood is so hard to get, and so much more taboo.


A friend of mine was angry when he found out I drank raw blood. He said it was an easy way to contract whatever diseases the animal had. Of course, the animal looked perfectly healthy to me when it was killed, but I am not a veterinarian. I think fear of communicable diseases from animals is another one of those irrational fears, like bacteria on meat. It just isn't an issue if the animal is eating a proper diet and is raised in an open space with room to roam.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Kane: Primal to Raw Paleo
« on: August 20, 2011, 09:18:27 am »
Quote from: Kane on August 20, 2011, 02:23:13 am
I have a supremely awesome family.  I'm sure you'd agree if you met them.  5 kids (4 boys, and a wee, beautiful girl), and a monumentally gorgeous, prodigiously gifted wife.

Welcome aboard! How are the children adjusting to eating paleo? Was it an easy transition for them?

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 20, 2011, 09:17:02 am »
Today, my meal consisted of 2 chicken eggs, 1 lb. ground beef, 3 oz. beef heart, 5 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 124g protein, 190g fat and 0.9g carbohydrate. 2212 calories, 77% fat, 23% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=2.48

I also drank 4 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I ate the eggs a few hours before my meal, because I had to leave for a few hours to pick up mineral water. The store I go to could not get Ferrarelle, so I am stuck with Pellegrino and Perrier for the next week. Hopefully, they can get some Ferrarelle next week. I am finding it difficult to drink 3L, so I am going to go back to drinking only when thirsty, which ends up being around 2.25L total of mineral water. It has been cloudy so I have not done as much sun-gazing.

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Off Topic / Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA
« on: August 20, 2011, 09:02:35 am »
Quote from: ys on August 20, 2011, 03:41:26 am
are you willing to donate to his campaign?

I have already donated far more than I should. Bye-bye budget.

There is a money bomb tomorrow, Saturday the 20th. I pledged $100.

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General Discussion / Re: fasting
« on: August 19, 2011, 10:11:32 pm »
The body never stops "eating", it just "eats" itself. What is the point? Why do it? Hunger tells you when you should eat. Paleolithic theory and/or instinct (anopsology) tells you what you should eat. The rest is experimentation.

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General Discussion / Re: fasting
« on: August 19, 2011, 06:00:47 pm »
I agree with TD. Why fast when you can eat a ketogenic diet? Most of the benefits of fasting come from putting the body into ketosis, which is the normal evolutionary metabolic state. Non-paleo eaters who recommend fasting do not realize this, they think that the body is supposed to run on carbs, so to them fasting is "magical." There is no magic to eat, just eat lots of fat and meat, and little or no carb foods. Fasting works because fasting metabolism mimics low carb metabolism (http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/ketones-and-ketosis/metabolism-and-ketosis/), your body is eating itself (which happens to be meat and fat). But with fasting you are lacking nutrients, and the fat on your body is probably mostly from grains and vegetable oils (birdseed and diesel, see: http://www.gnolls.org/). Eating very low carb or zero carb, you can get healthy fats and nutrients, and eat once a day, giving your body rest in-between meals.

You could space your meals out even further once you are used to eating once a day. I read in National Geographic about Inuit hunting in Greenland. They would hunt for days with little or no food, but when they made a kill, they would gorge themselves, eating upwards of six pounds of walrus meat and fat in one sitting, or eating for an entire day (meals throughout the day). These large meals (tens of thousands of calories) allowed the hunters to go many days afterward without eating.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 19, 2011, 07:38:57 am »
Today, my meal consisted of 1 lb. ground beef, 3 oz. beef heart, 10 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 121g protein, 299g fat and 0.1g carbohydrate. 3185 calories, 85% fat, 15% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=3.24

I also drank 4 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I only have 2 more days of marrow left, I have been going through it much faster than I expected. I thought it would last a month. I started this experiment July 25th, and thought the marrow would last until August 25th. I also have only 2 days of the regular grass-fed beef. I have 20 pounds of high-fat grass fed beef, 2 lbs. of ground buffalo, 1 lb. of buffalo liver, 6 lbs. of ground pork and 2 lbs. of pork liver, and 4 lbs. of salmon. So I am going to make some changes to what I am eating soon.

I ordered some more marrow, but it won't arrive until Thursday next week.

I would like to finish the buffalo and pork, as I have had it in my freezer the longest. I haven't been able to get any pork fats. I can get pastured lard, but I want to avoid cooked fats. I could just keep the pork frozen until I locate some good pork fat. I also have a little fat on my belly, which could come in handy.

I am finding that I really like organ meats, and I am considering including more organ meat and less muscle meat in my diet. If muscle meat is as difficult to tear off a carcass and eat (without aging) as some people say, then perhaps early human hunters had a diet of mostly organ meats and fats. Maybe they did not eat the difficult to chew muscle meats. I know that organ meats are easy to chew right out of the animal, based on my experience eating them the same day the animal was slaughtered.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 18, 2011, 08:54:23 pm »
I had a BM this morning. Same as the last one.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Magnesium Intake on RZC
« on: August 18, 2011, 10:52:38 am »
Quote from: klowcarb on August 17, 2011, 11:57:19 pm
I consider myself raw VLC now, as I hate the term ZC.

Why do you hate the term ZC/Zero Carb??

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Off Topic / Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA
« on: August 18, 2011, 10:49:40 am »
Quote from: ys on August 17, 2011, 09:02:16 pm
absolutely you need a license because the broadcasting space is very limited.  It cannot be unregulated.

mainstream media is not government controlled.  please provide radio station or channel and evidence of government control?

you have not answered my question.  Mike Savage is mainstream media, his show is being re-broadcasted to hundreds of radio stations and his ratings are huge.  where is government control here??



Your argument would imply that anything "limited" needs to be rationed by government. Food is limited, land is limited, etc. We live in a world where everything exchanged is limited. Everything can be unregulated, but the violent gang of thugs supported by a brainwashed populace keeps regulations in place, and big profits for a few corporations are the result.

Name a mainstream broadcast news source that is broadcasting without government approval. Anything that is broadcast is the subject of government scrutiny, government censors. If you do not satisfy the bureaucrats, they can pull the plug on you. They put pressure on the media outlets, who can only continue broadcasting with the permission of government thugs.

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Journals / Re: Magnetic's Journal
« on: August 18, 2011, 10:44:03 am »
Today, my meal consisted of 1 lb. ground beef, 3 oz. beef heart, 7.5 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 116g protein, 240g fat and 0.1g carbohydrate. 2627 calories, 82% fat, 18% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=2.95

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I guess I could have said "same meal as yesterday." My food was frozen this morning, so I put it out for a few hours. I was going to put it back in the fridge but I forgot. So it was warm and ready when I got home from work. I liked it better, and the marrow was very wet, not dry at all.

My mouth is still quite dry in the morning, I am going to drink an extra bottle of mineral water, making it 4 750mL bottles a day, for 3L total.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Magnesium Intake on RZC
« on: August 17, 2011, 05:52:12 pm »
Quote from: TylerDurden on August 17, 2011, 01:59:51 pm
    * Halibut
    * Oysters
    * Rockfish
    * Scallop
    * Salmon
    * Tuna

Buccino , snails and abalone. Caviar is also cited as being high in magnesium, but never seems to be sold raw.

I don't think you need to worry re this issue at all unless you are also consuming lots of raw dairy as well. Too much calcium in the diet is a problem if magnesium-intake is low by comparison.

I do eat a few pounds of fish a month, and right now no dairy. The government recommended amounts must be much higher than is really necessary, just like the calcium recommendations. Thanks.

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Off Topic / Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA
« on: August 17, 2011, 11:25:42 am »
Quote from: ys on August 17, 2011, 11:19:08 am
i know what FCC does, but do you?  FCC has no control over media contents.  it regulates broadcasting methods but not the contents.  Mike Savage can bash anyone including FCC and the government and FCC cannot do jack to him.  and Mike Savage draws huge numbers.  where is your government control?

FCC also has no control over Internet media.

You need a license. They decide who gets one. Mainstream media is government media. You are right about internet media, that is why the government is looking to crack down on internet freedom. The traditional media has become irrelevant so they are running to the government, hoping for a little help.

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