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General Discussion / Re: Mineral water?
« on: September 22, 2008, 05:10:17 pm »
Quote from: seesawsemiology on September 22, 2008, 01:39:13 pm
thanks to tylers link ive discovered a water called mountain valley spring water,it alkalitic tastes awesome and isnt carbonated...

Well, I did find it rather hard to believe that there was no non-carbonated mineral-water in the US.

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General Discussion / Re: To Chew or not to Chew
« on: September 22, 2008, 05:06:05 pm »
Quote from: Squall on September 22, 2008, 09:49:53 am
I've yet to create high meat, but from what I've learned on here liver doesn't end up being so much high "meat" as it ends up being a high soup ... if you can picture a fermented soup of dissolved organ parts (and now picture the smell). It would be high in bacteria but I'm not sure even the inuit could stomach that. Someone should dare Aajonus to drink some of that on Ripley's Believe or Not lol.

The Inuit preferred to eat rotting fish rather than rotting liver. The rotting fish was one of their most favourite foods. 

Re liquid soup:- In that famous wifeswap tv series episode about an American family on a raw animal food diet, they were shown to eat high-meat in the form of a liquid soup(I think it had been aged for c.4 months).

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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Dairy Dangers
« on: September 22, 2008, 04:26:42 am »
Quote from: Sully on September 22, 2008, 02:45:55 am
How much protein and fat is in human milk? Is it less protein than cows?
http://www.westonaprice.org/children/humanmilk.html

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General Discussion / Re: Fat Rankings
« on: September 21, 2008, 08:28:24 pm »
I think so. People from the States enthuse about yellow  hide-fat all the time, but I don't seem to get hold of it, over here.

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General Discussion / Re: Aajonus Radio Interview
« on: September 21, 2008, 05:50:09 pm »
Quote from: goodsamaritan on September 21, 2008, 07:13:26 am
I am looking for videos and audio of Aajonus.
Can you point to URLs where we can find them?

Hilarion.com has CDs and audio-cassette tapes with Aajonus' voice on them - contact Jon C Fox at fox@hilarion.com re this. However, apart from the consultations, he simply states on the tapes exactly what he writes about in his 2 books.

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General Discussion / Re: Mineral water?
« on: September 21, 2008, 05:47:07 pm »
Quote from: seesawsemiology on September 21, 2008, 01:45:27 pm
could anyone give me any brand-names of alkalinic mineral waters?

Go to this website:-http://www.mineralwaters.org/

and click upper left area on waters, list by country, check under "USA", and you'll find 183 brands listed. Only go for those mineral-waters from natural springs. Avoid the sparkling mineral-waters as well, as they cause digestive upset.

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General Discussion / Re: Fat Rankings
« on: September 21, 2008, 05:40:18 pm »
Quote from: Squall on September 21, 2008, 11:30:25 am
Can i trouble some of the veteran RPD'ers here to post a ranking of which fats they consider the best? Something like:

1. Brains
2. Hide fat
3. Suet
4. etc.

I'm really just looking for opinions and not necessarily hard science.

This assumes that the organs all come from 100% grassfed sources - for example, I used to get a source of grainfed brains from pigs(cattle brains are forbidden in the UK for sale). The following fats are listed in descending order from greatest to least, and I;m measuring them in terms of what other trace micronutrients they have, other than just fats:-

Brains
Marrow
Tongue
Hide-Fat
Muscle-Meat Fat
Suet
-------
(Optional)
Eggs
Dairy

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Off Topic / Re: You know you're an RPDer when...
« on: September 21, 2008, 05:30:29 pm »
You know you're an RPDer when non-rawist acquaintances, such as doctors etc., unsubtly and constantly  go out of their way to tempt you with foods banned on your diet, such as alcohol, coffee, pasteurised dairy etc..

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Off Topic / Re: You know you're an RPDer when...
« on: September 21, 2008, 05:25:46 pm »
While it's true that being sick on an RPD diet is pretty rare unless you're doing something dodgy such as eating cooked-foods, there are occasional mild detox-episodes  and a very few people do experience worse detoxes. In my own case, I'd thought I was 100% immune to all colds and flus, yet after 4 years on the RPD diet, I got the flu, in full, for 2 days - my brother mentioned he'd just recovered from a flu-outbreak so I knew I'd caught it from him. OK, so I've never had the flu (or a cold) other than that time during my RPD phase, but I thought it should be mentioned.

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Off Topic / Re: Computer Woes
« on: September 21, 2008, 06:08:46 am »
Yeah, he has to allocate the various forums to us mods, after all.

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Off Topic / Re: Tell me 25 things about yourself
« on: September 21, 2008, 05:44:35 am »
Quote from: Squall on September 21, 2008, 04:55:34 am
Is the object to follow your exact format, or to just list 25 things about yourself?

Just list 25 things about yourself. Forget about the format.

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General Discussion / Re: To Chew or not to Chew
« on: September 21, 2008, 03:37:37 am »
Quote from: Nicola on September 21, 2008, 03:26:00 am
I don't mean you; what about all the others. I know that all works for you - my parents and many other "normal" people say "every thing is o.k." but then I notice that they have problems, but they are "normal" problems.

I do try, but I would like the whole story to work from top to bottom, doing sport and resting - not just "wayting" for the next meal; I don't just oder or jump into a car for food...I go for it under my own steam!

What about eating raw in a restaurant (social)? Bolt vs. chew...
I still bolt my raw fish down in sashimi restaurants.

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General Discussion / Re: To Chew or not to Chew
« on: September 21, 2008, 03:08:14 am »
Quote from: Nicola on September 21, 2008, 03:01:26 am
When I mentioned this bolting then nobody will answer to wether they do bolt...It is hard to "believe" what people do and if it really works; that digestion is better one way or the other and I mean metabolisem from the start till the end (stool)!!!

Nicola

Look, sometimes I do just bolt it down without any chewing whatsoever - other times I chew once or twice. Big deal.

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Off Topic / Tell me 25 things about yourself
« on: September 21, 2008, 02:41:00 am »
OK, here's a game I came across, elsewhere, so let's try it here:-

1) INTP personality type(mostly).
2) I have light brown hair(dark blond in the summer sun).
3) I have light-brown eyes(used to be very dark-brown in pre-rawpaleo days).
4) I'm 6ft tall.
5) I'm obsessed about science(NASA/Space exploration/SETI etc.) as well as science fiction(more SF books than SF movies, but both).
6) I eat a raw-animal-food diet, including rotting meat etc.
7) I'm a fan of Schopenhauer.
8)I love quotations
9) I LOVE  skiing.
10) I'm a fan of comics like 2000AD.
11) I'm a fan of martial arts such as Judo.
12) I like heavy metal music(ACDC/Manowar etc.)
13) I speak 3 modern languages fluently.
14) I've visited 4 of the 7 continents.
15) I'm familiar with much/most of the vocabulary of Latin and Ancient Greek.
16) I love Roleplaying and strategy-based  PC games.
17) I'm a religious atheist - of Roman Catholicist persuasion(pre-Vatican II-traditionalist). I would prefer to be something cooler such as a Mormon Fundamentalist, though.
18) My politics is Bismarckian in tone.
19) I have an absolute fascination with the Ancient World in general(Carthage, Ancient Persia etc.)
20) I love mountain-hiking in really remote, desolate areas.
21)  I hate bureaucracy.
22) I love mythology.
23) I'm an expert in, and fan of, general knowledge.
24) I dislike giving money to charity for numerous, well-thought-out reasons(unless it's for wildlife).
25) I hate beta-males(but not other types such as alphas or nerds).

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Journals / Re: Kristelle's Journal
« on: September 21, 2008, 02:24:57 am »
In cases of hysterectomy, I would imagine that improving the health of the adrenals would be paramount, as they, other than the testicles/ovaries, are the ones which produce the sex-hormones. The trouble with adding in artificial hormones is that the body alwways self-compensates by not producing enough natural sex-hormones by itself, plus the artificial sex-hormones tend to be harmful, in the long run.

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Health / Re: Itchy scalp
« on: September 21, 2008, 01:39:06 am »
People always remark how my light-brown hair becomes blondish after some exposure to the Mediterranean sun.

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Off Topic / Re: Coming Clean
« on: September 21, 2008, 01:33:46 am »
Never EVER proselytize about this diet! I tried this, in the early stages, with my father, who'd developed a massive potbelly and type 2 diabates/heart-trouble etc, c.10-20 years before. All he would go in for was the raw dairy and nothing else - he was just too terrified of raw meats etc. He would make excuses, such as the idea that every diet should include a "banned food" in order to allow one to continue with it. He died 6 months later. The ONLY way one can convince others(and even then it's iffy at best) is to lead by example re health-improvement - one out of every 100 acquaintances  will notice, over the years, that you're healthier and younger-looking than others of your age-group, and perhaps a 1/10th of that number will actually do something about it, such as eating more raw animal food, such as raw oysters etc.

ONE other thing:- you're a very lucky man. You live in the US, the mecca of raw animal foodists. OK, you may not live in RAF-heavy California, but there are Primal Potlucks for raw animal foodists appearing in most US states every few months. Just travel to whichever event Aajonus is going to appear next at,  over the next year, and you're bound to find several people who live in your State(or neighbouring States). Contact aajonus at optimal@earthlink.net for furher info re Primal Potlucks or Aajonus workshops in your area etc. in your area - at the very least, he'll put you on his e-mailing-list re providing furthr info.

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Off Topic / Re: MBTI
« on: September 21, 2008, 01:19:55 am »
I'm afraid Jung's ideas have, these days, been as  discredited as Freud was in the past. Yes, I've done these tests, before, and I think(?) I got INTP, every single time as a result. But we are all so different as individuals, that I don't think that humanity can be reliably divided into just 16 types.

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General Discussion / Re: To Chew or not to Chew
« on: September 21, 2008, 01:13:41 am »
You've overlooked a number of obvious points:- First of all, the recommendation re drinking water as well is ONLY for those newbies who can't handle raw organ-meats. Those who are used to eating raw liver etc., don't  really bother with drinking mineral-water, afterwards. I suppose I'll have to make that clear in the relevant thread.

Secondly, modern RPDers only use knives due to concerns re fitting into society etc. I could just as easily tear into my raw meats/organ-meats with my teeth, but this would result in a lot of blood all over the place, which would be most unsightly to non-RPDers. Sure, I could strip down and go naked, but I'd still get blood on my face. As it is, some meats/organ-meats require me to use my teeth, most of the time, rather than a meat-knife(such as my wild-hare carcasses). In the case of raw liver, it would actually be much easier to just use my teeth, as the connective tissue is more difficult to cut with a meat-knife, unless sharpened specially.

Re bolting:- I do chew once or twice before bolting down my raw meats, but I don't need to do any more. This seems typical of other RPDers.


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General Discussion / Re: New to forum - Hello
« on: September 20, 2008, 10:11:54 pm »
Quote from: wodgina6722 on September 20, 2008, 07:42:26 pm
I would love to get something like that organised but it's a bit lonely for RAF'ers in my neck of the woods. Good samaritans the closest! The amount of London people will start to grow for sure? there seems to be a few. It will happen, I would move to London if it did, just for the summer though!

The truth is that there are a lot more raw-animal-foodists in  the UK(and elsewhere) than you might imagine. Trouble is that most people on any Internet forums rarely bother posting even once, just reading the posts, so it's impossible to identify them all, let alone those RAFers who never both going online at all - I keep on hearing vaguely from people like Jon C Fox about how they get large numbers of orders from the UK for Aajonus' books, for example, and I notice, sometimes, that someone's put "_uk" or similiar in their username when looking at the group-lists of usernames.
. There's a Yahoo group called "livefoodoz"(search under "aajonus" on Yahoo Groups, and scroll down), plus there are a few mentions online Re Australian "Instinctos' who eat a little raw animal food, usually.

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Health / Re: Itchy scalp
« on: September 20, 2008, 10:03:16 pm »
I haven't used shampoo for years, and my hair self-regulates re cleanliness so it's fine. In pre-rawpaleo days, my hair was so ultra-greasy that I had to wahs my hair pretty often.

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General Discussion / Re: New to forum - Hello
« on: September 20, 2008, 06:15:08 pm »
Quote from: wodgina6722 on September 20, 2008, 07:09:45 am
Hey Geoff

I'm starting to get the feeling that you believe hide fat is better than suet. I'm open to the idea also, where did you get the info that hide fat has more omega 3. Suet seams to be prized by weston price primitives but I'm guessing hide fat was too.

I would love to just have a huge supply of ox tongue, that fat is special IMO I have no evidence though...

Either Lex or Gary(Via) mentioned this point re suet from the kidney area being far more saturated than fat elsewhere - since that kind of suet is what is usually on offer, that's not so good. Large amounts of hide-fat are very difficult to get hold of unless you live in a region where cattle are kept beyond the 30-month-slaughtering-limit imposed by the EU.

I also wish I could get a regular supply of tongue, but there's just no demand for it. I actually think that if we all started banding together into local,raw animal food cooperatives like some Primal Dieters do in the States then we would have enough financial muscle-power to get farmers to give us whatever organ-meats we want.

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Off Topic / Re: Coming Clean
« on: September 20, 2008, 06:08:41 pm »
It can take 8-12 months to start enjoying raw for some people. I found it much easier to just try small amounts of so many different varieties, that I inevitably found some raw animal foods which I liked instantly(in my own case, mostly raw fish, especially raw shellfish, and raw goat, initially). The alternative is to start off with lightly-cooked meat, and slowly reduce cooking-temperature over time.

One problem I had was when walking past restaurants, as they routinely waft the smell of food onto the pavement so as to entice customers. While I was no longer attracted to the taste of cooked-animal foods, for various reasons, I was attracted by the smell, so I simply visualised in my mind the resulting stomach-pains that would occur if I did eat the food offered by the various restaurants.

Another option, other than the above, is to eat cooked-/processed stuff but go for healthier versions thereof. So, in the case of alcohol, go in for "Real Ale"(also known as "cask-conditioned ale" or "bottle-conditioned" ale in the US), or go in for clear, transparent spirits. Real Ale is technically rawpalaeo in that it's raw and full of live, fermenting bacteria, and unlike lager and normal beers, doesn't contain preservatives. Don't buy any supposed "Real Ale" in pubs/bars as these are mostly pasteurised, get them from bottles in shops/supermarkets which have the term "bottle-conditioned" or "secondary fermentation within the bottle" on their labels - the bottles should all have a metal covering over the cork or cap of the bottle, with wires going round the top, slightly further down(to prevent the gases inside from bursting the cap off). Transparent spirits are also recommended as it's the congeners/preservatives within alcoholic drinks which cause the worst hangovers, and these congeners are what give spirits their colour - so vodka, clear gin etc. is better than whisky, say.


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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Dairy Dangers
« on: September 20, 2008, 05:53:34 pm »
Quote from: seesawsemiology on September 20, 2008, 01:32:27 pm
i do consume a fair amount of raw dairy(raw butter is amazing) but i must say if i eat/ drink too much in the course of a couple of days i get a sore throat which will disappear within 24 hours if i dont consume anymore...perhaps there is something to be said for that but i do find it makes me feel good and i otherwise process it just fine.

It's common to experience euphoria from drinking dairy - I experienced this myself(along with a subsequent rise and drastic fall in energy-levels), and, as a result of this euphoria, I continued to drink raw dairy for months afterwards, until I finally realised that it was doing me a lot of harm. The euphoria is due to the opioids in the dairy. However, these opioids are very addictive, which is why people often find it so difficult to wean themselves off the foul stuff.

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General Discussion / Re: Mineral water?
« on: September 20, 2008, 06:06:17 am »
Quote from: boxcarguy07 on September 20, 2008, 05:59:00 am
Yeah, I never buy tap water. I buy spring water by the gallon.
I haven't seen mineral water in 5L bottles ever... you'd probably have to order those online, huh?

Do you recommend alkaline mineral water for taste reasons only? I just checked and the kinds I've been drinking are less than 7.0 pH. I think they taste fine, but is there another reason why alkaline would be better?


I gather that alkaline mineral-water is what we mostly get from mountain-streams and lakes which is what palaeo hunters would have drunk, most of the time.

Re 5-litre bottle:- No, I get them from any of 1,000s of corner shops around London. Even the supermarkets now stock 5-litre bottles of mineral-water in some cases(either that or they put 6 bottles of 1.5 littres together, wrapped in one plastic case, and sell the water at a discount).

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