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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi
« on: August 02, 2008, 09:41:26 pm »
It all depends on the individual. In my own case, pre-rawpalaeo diet I used to suffer from extremely painful stomach-aches from eating any cooked animal food, so it was easier for me than others to get used to the diet. I almost instantly got used to eating many types of raw fish/raw shellfish, and found the taste of raw, minced steak rather bland, but not off-putting. Some raw organ-meats took  longer for me to get used to - others use things like blenders/vitamixes early on in the diet in order to get used to the taste, but I never bothered with that as I liked the idea that one could save so much time otherwise spent on cooking or having someone else cook something for you). My solution with raw liver was to bolt down  very small slivers of it, without chewing, followed quickly by a gulp of alkaline mineral-water - after a while, I didn't feel the need, any more. Other raw organ-meats like raw tongue were pretty easy to get used to(though for the first 2 years, I would cut out the darker, stringier parts on the underside of the tongue, as I didn't like it as much as the pinker, lighter-coloured part of the tongue).

I would say that, on average, people can take 8 to 12 months, according to reports, to get fully used to and enjoy the taste of raw meats. This is assuming the following things:- eating mostly 100% organic, grassfed or wildcaught meats, eating mostly(85%+?) raw food, and always going in for lots of variety(this is important as everyone has uniquely different tastes, and finds some raw animal foods much easier to get used to than others etc.) And the more cooked-food one eats, of course, the more difficult it is to for beginners get used to sticking with  raw, due to the addictive opioids in cooked foods etc.

*Please read the info-thread in the general diet section of this board for the easiest way to get used to going rawpalaeo*:-

http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/general-discussion/sticky-advice-for-newbies-wishing-to-slowly-ease-into-a-raw-animal-food-diet/msg110/#msg110

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Off Topic / Re: Nudism
« on: August 02, 2008, 06:21:53 pm »
I'm sort of surprised because I live and work in a touristy environment and the female Europeans, even British Europeans, have had to be told that they can't go topless on our beaches. It is against the law. They seem surprised. Also young European men are about the only men you'll see wearing speedos to the beach. Elderly American men seem to have no qualms about it though! What a sight THAT can be!  :o The younger American males, teens and early twenties, might wear the standard trunks but so loose as to let their cracks show. But they wouldn't be caught dead wearing speedos.

Continental Europe has a tradition of toplessness and nudism. The UK doesn't really. The only exception is on the beach where UKers can wear the skimpiest things(as long as the lower private parts are covered). But going around bare-chested as a man when you're more than a mile away from the beach is frowned upon heavily.


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General Discussion / Re: Diabetes Cure Website - Need Your Suggestions
« on: August 01, 2008, 04:43:08 am »
In a recent thankfully failed) action by the medical council to only allow doctors in California to give advice on nutrition, Aajonus pointed out that such doctors typically receive only 6 hours of lessons on nutrition in their entire time in Medical Education.

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Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' Appearances and Primal Potlucks
« on: August 01, 2008, 02:07:42 am »
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I truly sympathise with you as I've had similiar problems in the past. What would be best is if you could find a local farmer who does his own slaughtering - they do exist.  A farmer who just has the abattoir do it all, will have no control over anything and the abattoir people will be too limited to be able to change their inflexible routine(and won't care about the customer).

I'm surprised that US farmers wouldn't know what suet is - even UK farmers who haven't a clue about what adrenals are, do know what suet is. The trouble is that most farmers tend to slaughter their cattle too soon (2-3 years after birth), partly due to stupid government regulations and their desire to make a profit, and grassfed cattle need more time to build up enough fat.  You could substitute the suet with ox-/beef-tongue which is very high in fat(50-60%?) though not as high as suet. As regards tallow, that is rendered(ie cooked) suet so is not ideal, but if there are no other sources ....

Raw butter is better than other kinds of raw dairy, in that short-term effects are much less common. But people do frequently report minor to major symptoms from it, in the long-term.

Check out www.eatwild.com and search the site under "New York" to find some farms listed for that region.

In short, I definitely don't recommend zero-carb for anyone who doesn't have a cast-iron guarantee from one or more farms as regards regular delivery of high-quality grassfed meat with enough quality fats. So, I would suggest going back to zero-carb only when you're in a position to order from Slanker's or NorthStar Bison(US wellness seems to hvae acquired a bad reputation from other US RPDers, so I don't recommend it).

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General Discussion / Re: Fiber
« on: July 31, 2008, 05:35:41 pm »
I would say that fibre is absolutely essential if you're on a cooked-food diet in order to remove clogged foods from the digestive system. But RAFers just don't need fibre. All fibre does for me is vastly increase the size of my stools, IMO.

14483
General Discussion / Re: Supplements
« on: July 31, 2008, 06:22:12 am »
Come to think of it, I even feel guilty recommending Dr Ron's supplements, but the trouble is that harsh government laws in the West prevent us  from buying such things as raw adrenals from organic, grassfed animals etc.

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General Discussion / Re: Supplements
« on: July 31, 2008, 06:18:20 am »
Could you clarify that last sentence? It kind of reads like those three people take supplement recommendation to greedy extremes.

Sorry, error in grammar. I've changed it to refer to Aajonus as an exception to the rule of diet-gurus making money on supplements.

But you only have to look at their individual websites to see how many dodgy supplements they sell such as ionized water etc.

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General Discussion / Re: interesting site biblelife.org
« on: July 31, 2008, 05:43:04 am »
Last I checked, biblife.org had a silly page which purported to debunk so-called  vegan "myths" about how harmful intensively-farmed meat is. But the trouble is , that this is true, not false - though Vegans are, of course, dead wrong in labelling grassfed meat as being bad as well.

I was amused by the Biblical references re justifying a meat-rich diet - I mean the Bible is only the human interpretation of God, with multiple authors, so if one wants to, one can find and justify any diet by simply looking through the whole Bible to find a relevant source.

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Hot Topics / Re: Cooked meat and health
« on: July 30, 2008, 10:21:27 pm »
If you look at the data(re HCAs/AGES/NSAs and PAHs), you'll find that cooked animal food is worse than cooked plant-food in its effect(partly because most animal-food is eaten well-cooked, while a lot of plant-food is either eaten raw or lightly-steamed). In short, a zero- or near-zero carb cooked diet  would invariably lead to a heart-attack or worse in the long run(though carb-related conditions would not happen) - it's true that the Eskimos following their traditional diet centuries ago didn't suffer from heart-disease, but they had several things going for them:- 1) A heavy amount of daily exercise and 2) a diet extremely rich in omega-3 fatty-acids from wild game such as seals, much of which meat was eaten raw(especially the organ-meats which are much higher in nutrients than the muscle-meats).

My advice would be for you to  compromise by going in for a high-fat cooked palaeolithic diet, according to the usual ratios(ie 65% animal food/35% plant-food). Try to eat the plant-food in raw form as it's more socially acceptable to do that, and cook your animal-food only minimally. Indeed, many RPDers are forced into social situations from time to time where they have to eat cooked-food so they usually tell people to just heat the meat for 10 seconds on both sides, thus leaving the inside more or less raw.

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General Discussion / Re: interesting site
« on: July 30, 2008, 05:38:33 pm »
It's too skewed towards a religious-fundamentalist viewpoint, IMO.  I mean, I'm happy to read about religion on religious sites and about diets on diet-related sites, but the two just don't mix well together.

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General Discussion / Re: Supplements
« on: July 30, 2008, 05:35:59 pm »
have you tried this yet http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Categories.bok?category=Nutraceuticals%3AConcentrated+Liquid+Minerals ?


i believe supplements are very important to take... i was reading on Jack Lalanne he takes about 40 supplements a day.

also the author of rawpaleodiet.org takes a lot of supplements and recommends them...

One should always be wary of gurus recommending a mass of supplements. The reason is that diet-gurus make most of their money from kickbacks from the supplement-manufacturers they recommend. Of course, there are exceptions such as Aajonus, but  Vinny and LaLanne and the warrior diet guru/Dr Atkins etc.  take the whole supplement-recommendation to ridiculously greedy extremes.

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Journals / Re: Yuri recovery
« on: July 29, 2008, 11:18:30 pm »
But, presumably, this is only if you're using artificial hormones?  If you're just eating the raw glands, you'll be rebuilding the gland so that it produces enough of the right hormone.

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Journals / Re: Yuri recovery
« on: July 29, 2008, 10:50:07 pm »
Yes, surely.

Fortunately I can get raw thyroid here. However, I have seen many warnings that adrenals must be adressed first. Besides, my thyroid testing lab results came out normal (free T4 is 17.87 with 10-25 normal range, free T3 is 12.64 with 5.4-14 normal and TTH is 1.33 when 0.25-5.2 is OK). So, I presume I don’t need any thyroid supplementation at present.

Why do adrenals need to be fixed first? Never heard of this, before.

14491
General Discussion / Re: Raw Glandulars
« on: July 29, 2008, 09:20:30 pm »
The adrenals were from Dr Ron's site and ultimately came from organic-raised/grassfed cattle in New Zealand.

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General Discussion / Raw Glandulars
« on: July 29, 2008, 07:05:20 pm »
I just thought I should mention that I've noticed that my irises have cleared up a little more since going in for raw adrenal glandular from Dr Ron's website (3 pills a day, I don't eat the gelatin capsule). My irises started off being very dark(almost black) when I first started rawpalaeo, then they lightened a little around the edges for the first month or two, but became extremely dark again once I included raw dairy in my diet for the next 6 months. Anyway, my irises then slowly started to clear over the next 2 years and then the process stopped, mostly - which was most odd as I was feeling fine, after the various pre-raw health-conditions had all been cleared up around then. Anyway, since taking these raw adrenals has seemed to have such an effect on my irises, I'm now going in for other supplements like thyroid, brain, pancreas(all raw). In the past, I've always maintained that the healthiest approach was to eat as wide a variety of raw organ-meats as possible(ie "like cures like", but I gave up a little, for a while, this notion , partly because my previous health-conditions had been sorted out so I didn't feel the need, and partly because it was an uphill struggle to get hold of the rarer organs, so I just gave up. I can only assume that while a mainly  (raw) muscle-meat/fat diet can do a lot of healing, that if one has seriously damaged organs of any kind, one should make strenuous efforts to get hold of those specific raw organs from grassfed animals, for 100% optimal health.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Calcium
« on: July 29, 2008, 06:49:18 pm »
The idea that you need lots of calcium to make strong bones is a myth put out by the Dairy industry.  In fact, one needs other elements as well such as magnesium, phosphorus and vitamin D, among others. If you consume too much calcium(which can happen via dairy-consumption or if you take calcium-supplements), then magnesium-uptake into the body gets blocked, thus leading to magnesium-deficiency, and magnesium is an essential element re human health.

There's also a famous international study showing that those countries with the highest level of dairy-consumption(eg:- Finland) also had the highest rates of osteoporosis. Vegetarians also like to point to another study that showed that the Bantu women of Africa had strong bones, despite only eating very small amounts of calcium in their diet.

Anyway, you don't need to worry, if you're eating health grassfed meats etc. you're getting enough calcium.

Vitamin C is already present in raw meats. It's cooking that destroys vitamin C. Mind you, zero-carbers like the Inuit would also eat things like raw adrenals, which happen to contain lots of vitamin C. My own view, though, is not to do such an extreme diet unless you're suffering from some specific carb-related problem such as candida.  My own trials with zero-carb were not successful, and it was extremely difficult to maintain for long periods as I would have needed to ensure ALWAYS having enough 100% grassfed fat to hand etc.

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Journals / Re: Yuri recovery
« on: July 28, 2008, 09:16:04 pm »
You might consider using other glandulars such as raw thyroid

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Suggestion Box / Re: Members Only Gallery Section
« on: July 28, 2008, 08:14:03 pm »
Some members might want to post personal questions that they might be too timid to want to appear on open forum - a number of questions posed to me on the allexperts.com website are deliberately chosen to be private.

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Suggestion Box / Re: Members Only Gallery Section
« on: July 28, 2008, 06:13:52 pm »
I suppose so.

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Health / Re: Back Injury
« on: July 27, 2008, 11:34:38 pm »
Well, I broke a leg once(when I was 4) and it didn't hurt a bit(no doubt due to the brain releasing pain-killing endorphin hormones).

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General Discussion / Re: power of testing
« on: July 27, 2008, 08:34:06 pm »
Well, Craig and Lex have done some tests, and I think Jeff(Wissler) has too. I'm far too afraid of doctors , given their hopelessness as regards solving my previous health-problems, for me to try.

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Health / Re: Back Injury
« on: July 27, 2008, 08:32:24 pm »
An intensively-painful stomach/stomach-ulcer is far worse - I've had back-pain before, and it's nowhere near as painful as the horrible stomach-aches i used to have after eating any cooked-animal food, pre-raw diet.

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Primal Diet / Re: Questions from Newbie
« on: July 27, 2008, 06:47:47 pm »
This is the link on this forum re how to go about a raw, palaeolithic diet(similiar to a primal diet, but just follow the primal diet guidelines, instead):-

http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/general-discussion/sticky-advice-for-newbies-wishing-to-slowly-ease-into-a-raw-animal-food-diet/

For good grassfed/organic meat farms  just search online under your local State(or neighbouring State), use organic-food or grassfed-meat directories like www.eatwild.com/

Check out the rawpaleodiet yahoo group - on the rawpaleodiet links page, you'll find folders at the top with more advice on how to buy food cheaply, where to buy it etc.(You have to join rawpaleodiet to become a member, I'm afraid - I'll get around, sometime, to transferring the various links over here.

Wholefoods is very expensive, and very poor in quality, IMO - at least my experience of it in the UK was dismal. Some farms like NorthStar Bison will send the meat chilled instead of frozen, if you specifically ask.

Prefrozen meats are not the end of the world - in my own case, I prefer buying raw or chilled meats and only eat some prefrozen things like suet or marrow. I prefer eating the suet/marrow within 10 weeks or so, though, as frozen food does slowly deteriorate enzyme-wise etc. over time.

Re parasites:- forget about it, it's not an issue. Maybe if you visit the tropics and go out of your way to eat contaminated meats, but in the west , farmers use so many deworming medicines etc., that it virtually never occurs. Mind you, I've been eating raw meats/organ-meats from wild animals with no issues, so even that scare is something I no longer believe in.

Most people in the US find it easiest to order straight from a grassfed/organic meat farm  - here in the UK, I find it easiest to visit the local organic farmers' market(they're very successful here in London).

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