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This is not the thread for discussing AV, it is supposed to be about iconic raw-meat-eating scenes in films/TV.  I  will lock this thread now for a few days  and expect no more on AV in future unless someone wants to post in the primal diet forum, for example. I will unlock this thread some time later, and expect more relevant threads on iconic scenes of raw-meat-consumption in the media in future.

The simple fact that allergies to raw dairy are the number 1 mentioned problem among RVAFers over the years is data enough. And given that I focused on an issue that had nothing whatsoever to do with raw vs cooked, but the common component of excess calcium present in both raw and pasteurised, I made a good point. It was you who failed to show evidence that calcium is somehow rendered way more dangerous via cooking - as I had pointed out, if anything, calcium in pasteurised dairy would be likely to be less absorbable, not more.

As regards diet, I am sure there were HGs who ate high fat high sugar diets, of a mostly raw nature. After all, the so-called "palaeo" diet was extremely varied and changed according to different climates etc. As long as the food was raw and unprocessed and extremely varied, it seems logical to me that such HGs would have been very healthy. Some humans do indeed  exist well on very extreme diets, but these require different genetics to adapt to them. For example, the Inuit have extra-large livers which allow them to digest more protein than other humans, given their mostly zero-carb diet.

does not have to be cooked   glycation will happen with raw too
  Err, please don't exaggerate this. Be honest, heat makes things worse. I recall that you previously  "overlooked" the harm done by  ALEs(alpha lipoxidation end-products). What I mean is that  HGs consuming, occasionally,  some raw honeycomb or raw sugar-cane, combined with  raw animal fats such as raw beaver fat or whatever, would not have suffered, healthwise.

Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« on: February 11, 2019, 03:00:55 pm »

Personally, given concerns re hygiene etc., I make it a point to wash my hands regularly with soap. I do NOT recommend the above behaviour unless you plan on suffering. Have a look  online at the practice of "logging" in tourists resorts and its effect on mass food-poisoning, for example.

Very profound stuff
That's exactly why we humans can't attribute rights to an animal. We are only being who carry responsibility on this planet.
We have those rules. Each human being should be able to treat their animals how they like. In the case those animals are carried to market is responsibility of consumers to ask the farmer how the animals are treated and decide by themself if they want to support that kind of treatment. The consumer has the power. The problem strikes from the fact that modern urbanized people doesn't have a clue of how an animal should be raised, cared and treated.
Humans who are too stupid to be capable of treating their pets etc. well, should therefore not be allowed to have any rights at all over other species.  Also, I should point out that masses of humans often tend to have a collective IQ which is much lower than the  average IQ of individuals in any group(I'm thinking of  the Roman Mob as a typical example). The point being is that Nature is a far better master than any human could ever be. For example, we now have an epidemic of too many deer in the UK, but stupid farmers etc. are resisting fiercely the return of wolves and bears to deal with this issue - excess of deer ruin forests, incidentally. Check out what happened when wolves were reintroduced into Yellowstone, for example.

That's not a problem, because our only ultimate concern should be about human health and wellbeing.
You are forgetting that everything is linked in a world ecology, here. If our ultimate concern is only for human health and wellbeing, then wiping out other species, or degrading them via dysgenics/inbreeding etc.  is not going to help us in the long term.

Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« on: February 08, 2019, 11:03:42 pm »

Note the Chinese government forcing them to buy raw pork. A truly "rawpalaeo" notion, except for the fact that  Muslims prefer cooking their meats.

Science / Another idiotic humanocentric so-called "palaeo" notion debunked
« on: February 08, 2019, 07:48:34 am »

I've had issues before with various people claiming that we humans have innate rights over other species, so that, for example, it does not matter how badly we treat the animals we eat, as we are supposedly  ordained by God etc. to rule over them, because we are somehow  uniquely different. I have shown time and again, that there is no obvious set of  differences between animals and humans, that even plants are extremely complex in their behaviour, that it is very important how we treat animals as the result of sick, poorly-kept animals is always reflected in the poor nutrition of their meats/milks,thus affecting our own health etc.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello from Portugal
« on: February 08, 2019, 07:12:39 am »
Check the first comment for an idea:-

Primal Diet / Re: High meat question about lack of airing
« on: February 07, 2019, 03:32:21 am »

Also, TylerDurden, when you say:
The idea was that the Inuit got botulinism from storing raw meats underground for too long

Could you explain what you mean by that?  Do you mean that it was their intent to get botulism? 

I understand from AV that all bacteria is good.  So why would we single out botulism? 


The idea is that aerobic bacteria is good but anaerobic bacteria is bad. And, no, of course, the Inuit are not looking to get botulinism, it is just that there are some stories/studies about Inuit getting botulinism from eating raw aged meat stored underground, on occasion.

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