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I believe the main problem was the large amount of milk combined with the lack of exercise.
How much did you eat and drink? I've noticed both excess protein and fat can lead to problems, more so in the case of protein. And did you use any salt?
c. 500g to a kilo  of raw meat/raw fat a day. I also developed severe hunger-pangs which were never sated by eating any raw animal food, after c. 2 weeks, so that I started wolfing down larger amounts per day. The hunger-pangs disappeared instantly after I switched to also eating raw plant foods as well. Switching to raw plant foods caused a few issues at first, as I found it difficult to digest them, no doubt due to the fact that I lacked the necessary bacteria and enzymes to properly digest  raw plant foods due to my RZC experiment.


* Sorry for the delay. I was on an internet-free holiday for 17 days.*

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Off Topic / Dehydrated raw animal fat
« on: July 01, 2019, 03:33:28 am »
Just noticed how raw animal fat tastes even better when dehydrated just a bit at 40 degrees Celsius for a day or so. I‘d imagine that this is more palaeo in a way.

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Could you name the main raw plant foods that you eat?
Currently, nothing much varied:- bananas, blueberries/raspberries, avocadoes, watermelons, oranges, garlic, radishes, wild garlic leaves. Sometimes raw brazil nuts. That sort of thing.

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Science / Palaeo giant bird fossil found in Europe
« on: June 27, 2019, 03:08:32 pm »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7184557/Bird-three-times-size-ostrich-lived-Europe-two-million-years-ago-study-suggests.html

It is so sad that none of us can ever enjoy the taste of raw mammoth fat or raw giant bird eggs, like they did in Palaeo times....

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Science / Re: Lower male sperm counts due to junk food
« on: June 26, 2019, 08:14:29 pm »
Admittedly, many RVAFers have reported increased male and female fertility as a result of going RVAF, so things like air-pollution, lack of paleo-style physical exercise etc. would  likely have far less of an effect on RVAFers.  For example, smokers are simultaneously  affected by heterocyclic amines and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons from 3 sources:- smoking, air-pollution and cooked/processed fooods, so have a far higher load overall.

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Science / Cavities in children linked to passive smoking
« on: June 26, 2019, 12:58:59 pm »
https://www.webmd.com/oral-health/news/20010501/passive-smoke-linked-to-cavities-in-children#1

The point of articles like the above is that one may follow the perfect 100% RVAF diet but still have problems because of others forcing their unhealthy lifestyles on us. Admittedly, RVAF diet consumption would limit any negative effects from non-dietary sources.

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I'm guessing you didn't eat enough fat. ( especially if you relied on expensive marrow bones for fat )   I recently cut back on my meat consumption and increased fat.  So easy to think we need large portions of meat when reading other's accounts.  Also for the last two weeks have cut out salt.  No longer have problems with water not quenching my thirst.  At first everything was bland.  But after a few days the taste buds reignited.  Feel much lighter as a result. 
    One experiment you can try is to catch your urine and look for sediment, which in my case appeared to be uric acid crystals, as a resultant from excess protein.  Let it sit for a few hours to see what settles. 
If you mean me, I did actually have very good, regular sources of raw fat at the time. Mostly I ate raw tongue and raw marrow, and also raw eggs, at the time, so, presumably, my fat-intake in calories must have been extremely high. I miss the grassfsed marrow, as the marrow bones I buy now in Austria, are not 100% grassfed and selected mainly for dogs who don't mind marrow-bones with not much fat in them. I do admit I ate quite a lot at the time, especially when I started getting those insatiable hunger-pangs, so I think the excess protein, even if accompanied by fat, might have been the problem. But who knows?

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Interesting. What did you eat on Raw Zero Carb? Do you still eat the same but with some plant foods added in now?
  I ate raw grassfed ox tongues/hearts/livers/kidneys plus some raw marrow, raw wild hare carcasses and raw eggs from geese/ducks/chickens(mostly free-range) , plus raw wildcaught
 lobsters/oysters/crabs. Now, I eat much the same, no raw wild hare carcasses or raw duck/goose eggs, raw lobsters/crabs, but now, in Austria, I get raw wild game much more easily(albeit  organ-meats are not wild but mostly-grassfed). I still some raw plant foods, much the same as in the UK, with  c.30% being organic. Except that I can no longer obtain medlars, like I did in the UK.

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What were your health problems, Tyler?

Pre-RPD diet I basically had a slow-acting food-intolerance towards raw and pasteurised dairy. This slowly led to massive inflammation throughout my body so that pretty much every body=part  was failing by the time of puberty. Just to list a few symptoms:- chronic fatigue and insomnia, loosened teeth, inflamed skin, more serious body-odour than is normal despite frequent washing,  slowed thinking, acute anxiety, some brain-damage, extreme pain in the stomach after eating any cooked animal foods, confusion and many others I have since forgotten.

If you are only referring to my RZC experiments well after going rawpalaeo, I can only state that the various symptoms started slowly coming back, with the loosened teeth appearing much faster. My main reason for quitting RZC was that I would, after 21 days, feel very dehydrated no matter how much spring water I drank, and would feel vast hunger-pangs no matter how much raw animal food I ate. Adding some raw plant foods curbed the hunger-pangs completely, though it took a while for my gut flora to become better able to digest them.

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Another reason why I was unable to tolerate RZC in the long-term may also have been that I had very serious ill-health due to past consumption of raw and pasteurised dairy as well as lots of processed carbs, all in the first 3 decades of life.

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Science / Birth defects are linked to cancer
« on: June 22, 2019, 04:08:24 am »

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In the Simon & Simon Tv episode, "A Little wine with murder", the police detective near the end of the episode enthuses about eating raw meat.

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A number of previously fanatical RZCers have stated that they had developed certain issues on such a diet and had to incorporate some raw plant foods. My take on this is that the Inuit, who have been eating RZC for millenia, apparently have overly large livers which would more easily help process the excess animal protein involved. I , myself, have tried RZC and, while I had a number of initial benefits, I swiftly developed a lot of health-problems after 21 days of doing RZC. I suspect the reason for that was that I ate too much raw animal food in general, even though my fat: protein ratio was pretty high.

Of course, due to genetics/epigenetics, some individuals of a non-Inuit origin might be just as able to handle a RZC diet.

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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Vice article featuring Me
« on: June 20, 2019, 11:47:01 am »
Hmm, given that  a number of long-term RVAFers have given up going RZC , I would suggest that you point out in future  that RLC or RVLC is what most RVAFers do. Come to think of it, I seem to recall that you do actually eat a very  small amount of  raw plant foods, suich as herbs, but maybe I am wrong?

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Hot Topics / Re: New sticky topic:- Vegan nonsense
« on: June 19, 2019, 09:32:45 pm »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7157755/Vegan-protesters-target-butchers-shop-placards.html

It is articles like the above which show we must avoid being too complacent. Current evidence indicates  that those who shout loudest are the ones getting most of the rights. There is an increasing tendency on all sides, these days,  to curtail RVAFers' rights, such as banning raw-dairy or banning sales of raw meats or raw oysters or raw cheeses etc. etc.

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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Vice article featuring Me
« on: June 19, 2019, 09:27:55 pm »
You've made it! You now have an article on you in the Daily Mail!  :-


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7157733/Kentucky-man-eaten-raw-meat-rotten-flesh-decade.html

Most other online newspapers force one to pay to read their articles, so the above article should provide far more of a visible online presence. Plus, like the  previous  video, the article is very balanced and does not try to bash the diet too much, even  allowing some interesting points for DN to get across to the public.

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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Vice article featuring Me
« on: June 19, 2019, 01:23:39 pm »
That was a very respectful video, imo, and I am deeply  impressed by the producers' integrity. Call me a philistine, but the only thing I would want to change would be your,er, somewhat incompatible,  surname. While I regret that there was no scientific data, I know , from my own experience, that that sort of stuff never convinces most people. It really is better to just portray raw-meat-consumption as a perfectly normal  type of behaviour within a family-setting, like in the video.

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Health / Re: Science of Tooth Yellowing and Decay
« on: June 19, 2019, 04:07:06 am »
Oh, and the WAPF recommends against nuts/nut-butters and seeds due to phytic acid content  as they claim that ruins the teeth.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Greetings from the UK
« on: June 19, 2019, 01:07:58 am »
Welcome to the forum!

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Health / Re: Science of Tooth Yellowing and Decay
« on: June 17, 2019, 11:27:10 pm »
Read this article on how exactly  excess calcium from dairy can ruin bones and teeth:-

http://www.4.waisays.com/ExcessiveCalcium.htm

SSRIs which foul up serotonin levels in the brain and body also ruin the skeleton and teeth as serotonin not only is present in the brain as a regulating substance, but is also present in the gut and controls calcium levels in teeth and skeleton.

A 100% "raw" diet usually involves some raw carbs unless you go RZC. My own experience with RZC was that I also got weakened teeth therefrom(though, admittedly, I  may have overdone the amount of  raw-meat eaten per day, even if I maintained the right fat to protein ratios.

Try some high-quality(if you can, organic or , best of all, wild herbs and fruits/veg). Mercola's curcumin
https://products.mercola.com/curcumin-supplement/
is a good use against inflammation in the short-term, though abstaining from cooked foods is best for fighting off inflammation in the long-term. Obviously, try raw 100% grassfed meats/organ-meats, "high-meat"(eventually)

I understand your terror re teeth. I was once forced to have a filling implanted decades ago, and I am sure that the nerve below was destroyed. I also know several people who, in old age, have been forced to use removable dentures as they simply could not afford replacing their original teeth with decent, more permanent  replacements. So, I am terrified of dentists and am glad I have had no dental issues since.

Loosened teeth cannot, imo, be a sign of detox. You might consider a slow elimination diet and see what works. Also, raw foods have much higher water-content than cooked foods so can often be much easier to chew(eg:- liver/kidney). When I first did the raw-dairy-filled-RVAF diet, I would cut up my raw meats/organ-meats into small pieces so that I could just bolt them down without chewing and hurting my mouth. Once I cut out all raw dairy, my teeth became rock-hard after those 4 months, but initially I was even able to move them backwards and forwards.

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Yes, it's cultural conditioning. When I first started with RVAF diets, I had some luck as, by then, due to instinct, my body no longer had any taste for cooked animal foods. Most RVAF diewt beginners aren't so lucky. Basically, cooked-foodists  are used to eating cooked-/processed foods which are seriously lacking in taste, which is why they often feel the need to add extra spices and sauces in order to enhance the taste. RVAF diet beginners should start with raw, grassfed muscle-meats, then try raw grassfed organ-meats, and then try raw wild game muscle-meats and finally raw wild game organ-meats. The idea is that the higher the quality of the raw food, the richer the taste, but RVAF diet beginners at first are not used to richness of taste so should gradually get used to the raw diet.High-meat is, of course, the richest in taste, and, imo, the healthiest, if based on healthy raw animal food.

One way that some RVAFers use is to start cooking some animal food very rare with lots of sauces, and then gradually turn down the cooking temperature every so often and reduce the amount of sauces, until, finally, they can eat it 100% raw without condiments.

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