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Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« on: January 04, 2011, 01:34:58 am »
I came across this post on a question/answer forum :

 http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_raw_honey_feed_Candida

It talks about raw honey being an invert sugar so it doesn't feed candida.Anyone here can explain further or have experience with this?
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2011, 01:54:15 am »
I wonder if too much protein, which are converted to glucose, feed candida.

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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2011, 03:16:08 am »
I wonder if too much protein, which are converted to glucose, feed candida.

yeah maybe.That's why I'm hedging my bets and going with high-fat meats(adding coconut oil to boost), and no organ meats(too much carb not enough fat) for the time being.
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2011, 03:17:15 am »
Gee, you exaggerate.
Carbs haven't got anything to do with this problem.
Besides it's quite often rediculous when people, who aren't profesionally diagnosed, think that they've got some candida-problems, when in fact they have got some other issues.
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 03:21:55 am »
no organ meats(too much carb not enough fat) for the time being.
Oh God!  ;D
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2011, 03:32:34 am »
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2011, 03:35:58 am »
are you going to take seriously every anonymous post?  without any data or references to back it up?

ok, this is bunch of nonsense because this so called invert sugar is simply the mixture of fructose and glucose, the same sugar found in fruits and vegetables (to a lesser degree).



 

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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 04:02:35 am »
Gee, you exaggerate.
Carbs haven't got anything to do with this problem.

wow l)
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2011, 06:10:01 am »
Gee, you exaggerate.
Carbs haven't got anything to do with this problem.
Besides it's quite often rediculous when people, who aren't profesionally diagnosed, think that they've got some candida-problems, when in fact they have got some other issues.
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I kind of agree. I bet there's a very large amount of people who believe they have candida when it is really in fact something else causing the same symptoms of candida. There are so many people who go on an anti-candida diet with either no results or worsening of their condition. I was convinced that I had candida for years, and now that I've been eating large amounts of Raw Honey everyday, everything has improved..

I think Raw Honey is wonderful, but I can't say I know if it really is an "inverted sugar".

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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2011, 06:58:45 am »
I kind of agree. I bet there's a very large amount of people who believe they have candida when it is really in fact something else causing the same symptoms of candida. There are so many people who go on an anti-candida diet with either no results or worsening of their condition. I was convinced that I had candida for years, and now that I've been eating large amounts of Raw Honey everyday, everything has improved..

I think Raw Honey is wonderful, but I can't say I know if it really is an "inverted sugar".

Yeah,I noticed that you and Brady are doing well on honey.Were you guys mis-diagnosed or something? Because that's definately not my issue.

Btw,it seems that Sabertooth and myself are doing well on coconut oil/butter.I guess one man's food is another's poison. -d
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2011, 07:13:17 am »


Btw,it seems that Sabertooth and myself are doing well on coconut oil/butter.I guess one man's food is another's poison. -d
  Too right. I got the most agonising stomach-aches within minutes of consuming any raw coconut oil. That stuff was even more painful for me than the effect of cooked animal foods way back when I started the rawpalaeodiet.

Well, any sensible person will experiment to see what works best for them, RVAF-wise.
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2011, 07:48:54 am »
It talks about raw honey being an invert sugar so it doesn't feed candida.Anyone here can explain further or have experience with this?
Noting Brady's success with raw honey I've experimented over the weekend to see if adding a bit of honey causes a reaction in me or not. Unfortunately it does seem to spur the same brain fog & itchy skin in me which are my initial signs. For me it's not any more suitable of a carb source as fruit.

I wonder if too much protein, which are converted to glucose, feed candida.
That's what occurs in me. It's why I do so much better with one, or usually more commonly two, meals a day. If I eat more meals than that I get light dulling of my senses and over time the Tinea Versicolor I have on my skin, which seems tied into the underlying Candida virulence, flares up.

Gee, you exaggerate.
Carbs haven't got anything to do with this problem.
Besides it's quite often rediculous when people, who aren't profesionally diagnosed, think that they've got some candida-problems, when in fact they have got some other issues.
Have you got this? -
[img]http://www.grzybica.net.pl/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/kandzdoya-jamz-ustnej-11-300x214.jpg[img]
I have to find the blood work but I do believe I came back positive for Candida. I do know that I did have it systemically. My tongue was not quite that bad but it did have noticeable white build-up/thrush.
What I can confirm is that the proliferation Candida fungus most definitely has a correlation with available carbohydrates in the body. As noted though this isn't solely ingested carbohydrates but also unnecessary/underutilized proteins.

Well, any sensible person will experiment to see what works best for them, RVAF-wise.
Agreed. :)
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2011, 02:41:33 pm »
What I can confirm is that the proliferation Candida fungus most definitely has a correlation with available carbohydrates in the body. As noted though this isn't solely ingested carbohydrates but also unnecessary/underutilized proteins.
Millions of primitive people who had been eating quite a lot of carbohydrates hadn't had any Candidiasis whatsover.
These are the culprits:
Antibiotics and lots of other harmful medicines
"Shit foods"
Weak immune system

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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2011, 07:24:30 pm »
Millions of primitive people who had been eating quite a lot of carbohydrates hadn't had any Candidiasis whatsover.
These are the culprits:
Antibiotics and lots of other harmful medicines
"Shit foods"
Weak immune system



Yes definitely. I would add not being breast fed and Cesarean births.

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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2011, 08:20:11 pm »
Millions of primitive people who had been eating quite a lot of carbohydrates hadn't had any Candidiasis whatsover.
These are the culprits:
Antibiotics and lots of other harmful medicines
"Shit foods"
Weak immune system


No. Candida Albicans, as well as other strains, are naturally present in the body. The things listed cause the imbalance required for it to outgrow the healthy bacteria which typically keep it in check. Once it has gained this foothold the ingestion of underutilized carbs helps it continue this heightened proliferation beyond the  healthy bacteria.
I will concur that antibiotics has been a culprit in the cause. In fact I would say it's been the #1 cause of the overgrowth of fungi in modern people.
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2011, 08:24:58 pm »
I think Hannibal refer ed to an overgrowth (candidiasis) not the fact that candida doesn't reside in the body.
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2011, 08:36:49 pm »
I think Hannibal refer ed to an overgrowth (candidiasis) not the fact that candida doesn't reside in the body.
Exactly
I will concur that antibiotics has been a culprit in the cause. In fact I would say it's been the #1 cause of the overgrowth of fungi in modern people.
I would say the same.
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2011, 01:46:51 am »
The point is that one has to get candida that has overgrown under control before adding carbs back into the diet.Regardless of the original cause of the overgrowth.
And the way to get it back under control is to eat lots of fats and avoid carbs/sugars.
Plain & simple. 8)



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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2011, 02:26:37 am »
Plain & simple. 8)
But untrue :)
Carbs aren't the issue.
You can eat quite a lot of carbs and fight the overgrowth of candida quite simply.
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2011, 04:40:59 am »
But untrue :)
Carbs aren't the issue.
You can eat quite a lot of carbs and fight the overgrowth of candida quite simply.

Sorry,I don't believe you.
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2011, 05:06:15 am »
But untrue :)
Carbs aren't the issue.
You can eat quite a lot of carbs and fight the overgrowth of candida quite simply.

Carbs are an issue..trust me. One bit of carbs and I get dandruff, constipation, cramps, thrush etc even on RPD. Your lucky to not have these issues.

If you know a way I can put add carbs back and be candida free please tell because zero carb sucks socially.
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2011, 05:39:14 am »
this thing candida you are all referring to is yeast infection?
then are you talking about oral yeast infection or vaginal?

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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2011, 05:41:23 am »
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One bit of carbs and I get dandruff, constipation, cramps, thrush etc even on RPD. Your lucky to not have these issues.

it does not sound like you are having yeast infection.
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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2011, 05:44:30 am »
i guess candida can show up anywhere in the body, its called different names depending on the locale (thanks the allopaths for their creativity).

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Re: Invert sugar doesn't feed Candida?
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2011, 06:05:56 am »
it does not sound like you are having yeast infection.
That's very true.
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