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Eczema - A Journey To Healing
« on: April 10, 2014, 06:05:36 am »
Hi everyone. I've been a lurker for a while now and just finally made an account. My boyfriend and I both started eating a little under a year ago, but sometime during Winter we screwed up and ended up eating almost entirely cooked food again. We have always eaten primal/paleo and really thrived once we got off of SAD (seriously). We're back to 100% raw now, though. I've been using recipes (I know, mixing is frowned upon by some here) to keep things interesting so that we DON'T stray away again. I've been enjoying it even more now than before. I feel like a new person.

I'm writing here to document everything and also to get suggestions from the community. I've read about eczema on here already, but I wanted to make a personal post.

Background:
My boyfriend has had eczema for his entire life. His childhood was all about covering himself from head to toe in steroidal/topical creams and using lotion at all times. It wasn't until I started really studying nutrition and learned about leaky gut and all that stuff that he even considered that eczema was an internal problem - not some skin disease you're permanently born with as the dermatologists always say. One of our visits to a derm actually concluded with her saying "There's nothing you can do, your body is just lacking topical creams, which is why you need to use them." I was stunned. His skin got better when we swapped from SAD to Paleo/Primal (still cooked). He was still using Aveno lotion (not the worst but still), though. When we went raw back last Summer, his skin did get better. He noticed that flare-ups would go down much faster especially right after a meal of raw beef or salmon. There wasn't any serious bad changes when we ended up eating cooked food again. It was during December that things just suddenly went downhill. But, he did stop using Aveno, and he was using Dr. Bronner's organic lotion. Once things got REALLY bad, even Aveno didn't make things better. Nothing would, but we weren't going to turn to topical creams.

Symptoms:
- Extremely itchy skin
- Inflamed skin (puffy/swollen and red)
- Very dry, sometimes cracking skin
- Extreme shedding (we have to wipe dead skin off of the bed multiple times a night)
- Sweating/oozing when skin is against something for a long time (i.e. if I end up against him during the night, it was be burning hot and wet)
- Bad dead skin smell EVERYWHERE

Before going back to 100% raw, he was eating pretty basic foods - veggies, some fruit, lots of meat (primarily red meat), fats, and minimal dairy. Now, we're eating nothing but raw meat (grass-fed beef and seafood/shellfish) with minimal amounts of fruits and veggies, lots of animal fats when it's included in our meat, some oils, and beef liver and bone marrow when we can get ahold of it. Everything is raw. We were going to do raw goat kefir for the probiotics, but we've just cut out dairy completely. He also eats a bit of fermented vegetables (kimchi/sauerkraut) daily. No kombucha, though.

He's also taking some supplements to help with his gut. Enough research on probiotics made me feel like they were a good idea, so the one he is currently taking is called RAW PROBIOTICS Ultimate Care 100 Billion with 34 probiotic strains. The guy at the health food store that we go to (who we know pretty well) highly recommended a supplement called IntestiNEW. It contains: L-Glutamine, N-Acetyl D-Glucosamine, Gamma Oryzanol, Cranesbill root, Ginger root, Marigold Extract 5:1 flower, and marshmallow root, along with the capsule (veggie fiber and water). I didn't see anything wrong with it, and I've read good things about L-Glutamine and Glucosamine, so we included that.

Also, he stopped using all lotions at this point. He was using coconut oil, but noticed a slight irritation (nothing visible like a rash, but he would feel an unpleasant tingling), so he's since switched to olive oil. That's been working out just fine.

Since taking these things (it's been 2 weeks now), and going back to raw (1 week in now), we've seen improvement. It's very, very slow, though.

Improvements:
- Legs are very cleared up (skin is smooth but still dry, and it itches occasionally)
- Hands appear to be healing (skin will shed off, revealing healthy skin, but then it dries up quickly and repeats the cycle)
- Face and arms are significantly less inflamed

Changes:
- The sweat got significantly worse for a few days. I actually thought he wet the bed because the sheets were soaked.
- Feet are VERY swollen to the point of not being able to wear certain pairs of shoes. This is still ongoing.

Even though there's a lot clearing up, he's still very miserable. He itches 24/7, sometimes getting less than an hour of sleep at night because he is so uncomfortable. The shedding is insane, we had probably 2-3 lbs of JUST dead skin in our vacuum. The sheets, chairs, linoleum floor, and just about everything are covered in this dead skin shed. And we vacuum 2-3 times a day now. Still covered. I feel like he's improving. Certain areas are definitely clearer. But the swollen feet and inflammation hasn't gone down, and I'm wondering what swollen feet means. I've read that this could all be signs of die-off (bad bacteria, candida, etc) from having such a messed up gut.

Can anyone give any info? Any advice on what else we can be doing to help? Does this sound like it's getting better or worse? All inputs are welcome and appreciated! I'm literally doing everything all day and night for him. I really hope we'll be able to put his eczema to rest once and for all.

TLDR: My boyfriend suffers from eczema, and is hoping that a 100% raw diet of mainly animal meats, fats, and some organ/marrow along with a supplemented probiotic, intestinal healing supplement, and fermented vegetables will help. Suggestions, advice, tips, and any other inputs are greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2014, 08:11:42 am »
His feet are likely swollen because he is eating lower carb but it doesn't seem like you are supplying extra salts, especially potassium.  I would recommend brewing up some dandelion root tea and adding some lemon to it, and drinking that down with a ton of water.  Both salt and water intake need to be much higher when you are more fat and protein and less carbs.  Adding seaweed such as dulse and kelp to the diet to keep minerals balanced.  Eating mineral and water rich vegetables also helps, celery and cucumber for example.

What oils are still being taken internally?  If you notice reactions on the skin from oils, just think the internal reactions they might cause.  I would suggest to not eat any refined oils and instead switch to egg yolks.   It also might be good to source fatty fish and buy in bulk, or look for pastured pork fat, anything to get omega 3's and vitamin D, which are very healing to the skin.  Other then that I would also suggest that you might invest in some raw colostrum to help boost his immune system.


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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2014, 01:15:33 pm »
His feet are likely swollen because he is eating lower carb but it doesn't seem like you are supplying extra salts, especially potassium.  I would recommend brewing up some dandelion root tea and adding some lemon to it, and drinking that down with a ton of water.  Both salt and water intake need to be much higher when you are more fat and protein and less carbs.  Adding seaweed such as dulse and kelp to the diet to keep minerals balanced.  Eating mineral and water rich vegetables also helps, celery and cucumber for example.

What oils are still being taken internally?  If you notice reactions on the skin from oils, just think the internal reactions they might cause.  I would suggest to not eat any refined oils and instead switch to egg yolks.   It also might be good to source fatty fish and buy in bulk, or look for pastured pork fat, anything to get omega 3's and vitamin D, which are very healing to the skin.  Other then that I would also suggest that you might invest in some raw colostrum to help boost his immune system.

Oh, I didn't really get into details about food. My mistake. He's a salt ADDICT. Sometimes, I find him just eating it straight from the shaker. He's always been a big salt eater. And, I do add salt to our food almost all of the time. Generally, as much as I can without ruining the food. :) Also forgot about eggs - we both eat about 3-4 egg yolks a day. The oils we eat are organic, cold-pressed olive, coconut, and sesame. Mainly just for a little flavor in some recipes (so we aren't consuming large amounts of any). Would they be that detrimental?

We're definitely doing our best to eat fatty meat. We scored some freshly cut sockeye salmon heads last week and ate everything we could out of them (they were amazing btw). It's been tough finding some stuff, though. Having to go out of our way to find stuff like that. Haven't found much pastured pork except for sausages, unfortunately.

Can you give me some more info about the colostrum? I've read about it, but I didn't know much about picking out a good one.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2014, 03:09:54 pm »
He may have other deficiencies, why he is a salt addict.
Has he tried living near the ocean, on the beach for a few weeks?
See if that resolves his need for salt.

If he cannot live by the beach for a while, get him some magnesium oil.
Spray on every day.

If he has access to live oysters and live clams, those should have good ocean saltiness in them.

I have good results with my family on black salt.  Has sulfur in it.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2014, 06:14:04 pm »
He may have other deficiencies, why he is a salt addict.
Has he tried living near the ocean, on the beach for a few weeks?
See if that resolves his need for salt.

If he cannot live by the beach for a while, get him some magnesium oil.
Spray on every day.

If he has access to live oysters and live clams, those should have good ocean saltiness in them.

I have good results with my family on black salt.  Has sulfur in it.

Hmm, that's interesting. I know that he whenever he was living in the Philippines, he was very close to the water. I'm not sure about his salt-addiction then, though. It would've been when he was younger. The magnesium oil is an option. We're a little tight on money, so investing in so many things will be tough for the next couple of weeks. I'm not even sure if we can get live oysters or clams here, but I'll look into it. I've been wanting to have raw oysters for a while now.

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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2014, 10:33:25 pm »
You might want to get him seaweed to put into foods instead of just salt or "seasalt".   Try kelp and dulse.  Seaweeds naturally have a high potassium level as well as other trace minerals, much better ratios for seasalts.  Low potassium and high sodium causes the body to retain fluids, the body will not get rid of fluids properly if there are mineral imbalances.  Seaweed is also a natural source of iodine, which should help the skin to heal of any infections.

I also forgot to mention you might want to try adding "great lakes" brand gelatin to your diet if you are not making slow/low cooked broths or consuming much connective tissues.  This will do a great deal in healing up the skin and giving it the proper amino acids to rebuild.

Jarrow brand makes an excellent Glucosamine Chondroitin and MSM supplement that might be more beneficial.  MSM is excellent for skin repair, as are any forms of sulfur you can get into the body...they are also excellent for healing and to cleanse the blood and liver.  This particular supplement is also high in potassium, so it might be extremely useful right now to help the swelling as well.    You also might not want to be taking a supplement that has marshmallow (or other herbs) as it will inhibit some of the absorption of minerals and vitamins, as it coats the intestines to soothe them.   Because your BF is so sensitive, I would suggest testing out all of those herbs on their own to be sure they do not cause some sort of reaction, or just skipping them all together.

Oysters sound like a great idea as they are high in zinc, which is another mineral that is great for healing.  The zinc also might help with his night sweats, those might be attributed to hormonal imbalance.  Having this condition probably buts a lot of stress on the body and is taxing the adrenals.  They only have two pathways, to make sex hormones, or to make cortisol, my guess is that they are leaning more towards cortisol production and this time and his endocrine system is becoming out of balance.

About salts again, when people are stressed and there bodies are under stress, there adrenal glands will start working overtime to compensate.  The adrenals need salts to function, and will dump salts under stress.  Also since he is sweating at night he should probably wake up and drink a big glass of water with seaweeds, dandelion roots and a little lemon juice, just to get his electrolytes back.  Even doing some warm cold therapy, once he is properly hydrated, to get these minerals going through the body. 

 Same with Vitamin C, these are two very important things to think about supplementing while under stress.   If you want any suggestion for vitamin c supplements I would be happy to give those too.  Magnesium like goodsamaratin mentioned is also great because that is probably being lost during night sweats, any extra vitamins and minerals you can get into him, from excellent sources of course, will probably do a great deal to help.

The reason I mention colostrum is not only is it a great immune supporter, but it is high in lysine and luecine, which are amino acids that are in high concentrations in milk and that are helpful for healing skin issues and repairing damage.  Also the fatty profile in well raised and fed raw dairy seems exceptional for adding moisture to the skin, perhaps you have a source of raw dairy and can try making butter??

I would suggest to try the oils you are using as food on his skin  and see how he reacts. You already mentioned coconut oil causing a rash on the skin, is that not reason enough to not take it internally?  I would still caution away from them even as flavors as they can be harsh on the liver.  Especially in someone who's health seems so sensitive and who needs to be eliminating anything that might be the least bit inflammatory......I would recommend to stay away.  Also, I used to use olive oil on my skin even though it seems awfully thick and somewhat ineffective , but I used it because it was less expensive then my preferred oil, which is JoJoba oil .  I am super sensitive and cant do other seed or nut oils, but jojoba seems to be the best oil, you might want to look into that if olive oil ever causes issues.  I have read that is it the most closely similar to our skins own that you can find. 


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SULFUR: A MODERN DEFICIENCY, A SIMPLE SOLUTION

Written by Dr. Adiel Tel-Oren




Of the six main building blocks that power life on this planet - carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus, and sulfur - sulfur has up until recently taken the back-seat in most of our minds.  This oft ignored element is a deserving recipient of increased attention, however, as it ceaselessly acts as humanity's go-to element for antioxidant behavior, detoxification, youthful appearance, and bodily locomotion.


Occupying two grams per kilogram of body weight (similar to famous potassium!), sulfur is present within every human cell and any reduction in its activity or availability can be critical.  Necessary in the processes of cellular repair and regeneration, sulfur enhances the health of all tissues and organs, and strengthens the structure of skin, hair, nails, joints, and gums. Additionally, sulfur plays a crucial role in the activities of proteins (e.g. metallothionein) and enzymes that contain sulfur-bearing amino acids, which bind heavy metals for safe removal from the body.

Although there are several other amino acids which host sulfur within their latices, it is cysteine which is necessary for the manufacturing of the mighty glutathione molecule.  Sulfur-containing glutathione is one of the most important antioxidants and detoxifying agents within human cells and its activities are necessary for optimal health.  Sulfur is also essential within what may be the most important of all detoxification pathways - the liver's sulfation pathway. Living within a highly polluted world where nearly every facet of one's life (from food, air, land, and water, to personal-care products and building materials) is increasingly contaminated with heavy metals and other toxic chemicals, activating the mechanisms for eliminating these toxins from the body by employing the use of sulfur becomes direly important. Yet the stress and pollutants modern humans endure cause a functional deficiency of this vital element. With this awareness, the desire naturally arises to incorporate more of this element into our bodies and lives.  But how?



Although methylsulfonylmethane (MSM) supplements are rising in popularity, they carries a heavy price and the psychological burden of having to take yet another supplement.  Would it not be easier to obtain the necessary supply of sulfur through the deliciously simple act of eating?  Though comparatively abundant in cruciferous vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, kale, collard greens, etc) and allium plants (onions, garlic, chives, shallots and leeks), the domestication and hybridization of these flora, as well as the prevalence of petroleum-based agricultural methods that disrupt the natural cycling of sulfur throughout the ecosystem (excess phosphorus inhibits the plant's absorption of sulfur) have all created a situation where these foods alone can no longer supply humans with adequate sulfur supplies.  Although foods like eggs, meat and other animal products are relatively high in sulfur, their high level of methionine appears to shorten lifespan in animal studies and increase homocysteine levels - resulting in damaged blood vessels, increased risk of stroke and heart attacks, depression, and dementia.


What is needed is a source of sulfur that is eaten regularly and frequently and contains a whole array of trace elements, without providing calories and without also delivering large amounts of methionine, allergenic proteins, or heavy metals. The wholesome Himalayan Sulfur-Rich Black Salt fulfills these requirements beautifully. It would be an error, however, to surmise that other salts would offer any sulfur at detectable levels. Table salt will obviously not hold up to the test as it has been so processed that it contains only sodium chloride.  Modern sea salts also fail as they arrive from highly polluted seas that have been contaminated by agricultural, industrial and urban runoff, and their sulfur content is extremely low. Himalayan pink salt, although it is wholesome and land-mined (hence unpolluted), is harvested from sedimentary layers that lack sulfur.  The highly prized Himalayan Sulfur-Rich Black Salt - harvested from pristine layers 300 million-years old - is a delectable salt rich in both sulfur and a large variety of trace elements. Ayurvedic medicine attributes numerous healing properties to this popular black salt, which cause it to be found in most homes in Nepal, Pakistan, and Northern India, where it is used as medicine for many ailments and symptoms. In Nepal, it costs at least 3 times as much as the equally-available Himalayan pink salt, which enjoys great repute in the USA and the West despite its absent sulfur. The Himalayan Sulfur-Rich Black Salt will no-doubt be crowned "king of salts" as soon as it touches Western consciousness and taste buds...


It is important to separate the black salt crystals from the conjoining rock by hand and not by chemical or mechanical means that may contaminate the resultant salt. Also, it is crucial to avoid grinding the crystals using machines coated with lead-laced paint, since the corrosive salt will cause the lead to leach into it in significant amounts, as confirmed by sensitive laboratory tests. Lastly, it is counterproductive to expose the salt to high temperature fire ovens for 3 days, as most manufacturers admit they do - in order to improve its physical properties (for easy handling and flow) - while damaging its natural molecular structure. The ideal salt will therefore be wholesome, rich in sulfur, will contain no heavy metals and other pollutants in appreciable amounts, and will be processed without polluting machines or chemicals or high heat. Also, it should be manufactured employing fair-trade practices, without child labor or harsh conditions. Ideally, the salt should be made in a dedicated facility where no other foods (allergenic or polluted) can contaminate it.



While some may hear the word “salt” and revert to the opinion that salt is an unhealthy food, one should look to nature instead. In Nature one finds mammals traveling great distances and exerting much effort to find and extract salt from the Earth. Humans have resided for eons near seashores abundant in salt-laden sea algae that were once a staple in the human diet. This intimate association with wholesome natural salt is demonstrated by the body's ability to regulate salt levels through adrenal and renal functions, and through sweat and tears. Salt in its wholesome state is instrumental to maintaining fluid balance between the internal and external environments of our cells. Cell membranes utilize sodium, chloride, and other trace elements in the process of communication, regulation, neurological transmission of impulses, and muscular contraction. Additionally, human bodies possess specific mechanisms to keep electrolytes (sodium, chloride, and other elements) within a narrow range by utilizing specific adrenal hormones.  These hormones instruct the kidneys to either spare the sodium or excrete it into the urine. In fact, people who drink too much water or avoid salt tend to create imbalance in this regulatory hormonal system and often suffer from electrolyte deficiency in the blood, as well as symptoms of adrenal fatigue, such as dizziness, inability to handle stress, intense fatigue, headaches, fluid retention, and sleep disturbance.


I therefore encourage you to consume wholesome salt without fear - particularly the Himalayan Sulfur-Rich Black Salt, which is made by a Kathmandu factory owned by a humanitarian network of schools, orphanages, and community centers dedicated to preventing child trafficking while providing quality education and strengthening the local communities sustainably. This factory uniquely abides by all the manufacturing principles listed above, as required for a clean, unpolluted, unadulterated, truly-natural product. You will find that because of its high level of sulfur, this black crystal salt has a distinctive egg flavor, which can be very useful in the preparation of plant-based dishes. For anyone recoiling at the thought of an egg-like taste, that flavor can be eliminated with ease by simply cooking it with your meal. Utilizing either approach, just apply as you would any other salt and enjoy knowing that what has enhanced the flavor of your dish has also enhanced your wellness, vitality, and beauty, as well the lives and futures of thousands of Nepali children."
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2014, 12:33:11 am »
Thank you SO very much for such detailed information.

You might want to get him seaweed to put into foods instead of just salt or "seasalt".   Try kelp and dulse.  Seaweeds naturally have a high potassium level as well as other trace minerals, much better ratios for seasalts.  Low potassium and high sodium causes the body to retain fluids, the body will not get rid of fluids properly if there are mineral imbalances.  Seaweed is also a natural source of iodine, which should help the skin to heal of any infections.

Any specific seaweed you would recommend? He loves the dried nori (not roasted, so raw I guess). Is that good enough, or is there something specific you had in mind?

I also forgot to mention you might want to try adding "great lakes" brand gelatin to your diet if you are not making slow/low cooked broths or consuming much connective tissues.  This will do a great deal in healing up the skin and giving it the proper amino acids to rebuild.

We're going to be getting a bulk amount of bone marrow in a week. Will that suffice? How would we know if we're consuming a lot of connective tissues?

Jarrow brand makes an excellent Glucosamine Chondroitin and MSM supplement that might be more beneficial.  MSM is excellent for skin repair, as are any forms of sulfur you can get into the body...they are also excellent for healing and to cleanse the blood and liver.  This particular supplement is also high in potassium, so it might be extremely useful right now to help the swelling as well.    You also might not want to be taking a supplement that has marshmallow (or other herbs) as it will inhibit some of the absorption of minerals and vitamins, as it coats the intestines to soothe them.   Because your BF is so sensitive, I would suggest testing out all of those herbs on their own to be sure they do not cause some sort of reaction, or just skipping them all together.

So we'll discontinue the original IntestiNEW supplement when it runs out. Can we start that Glucosamine supplement right away, or would it be best to wait until the IntestiNEW is out of the picture?

Oysters sound like a great idea as they are high in zinc, which is another mineral that is great for healing.  The zinc also might help with his night sweats, those might be attributed to hormonal imbalance.  Having this condition probably buts a lot of stress on the body and is taxing the adrenals.  They only have two pathways, to make sex hormones, or to make cortisol, my guess is that they are leaning more towards cortisol production and this time and his endocrine system is becoming out of balance.

Would explain why he has absolutely zero interest in sex. I figured it was from discomfort, but this makes a lot more sense. Would raw, but not live oysters be okay? I haven't found live ones before. Are there any other foods rich in zinc that you could recommend as well?

Same with Vitamin C, these are two very important things to think about supplementing while under stress.   If you want any suggestion for vitamin c supplements I would be happy to give those too.  Magnesium like goodsamaratin mentioned is also great because that is probably being lost during night sweats, any extra vitamins and minerals you can get into him, from excellent sources of course, will probably do a great deal to help.

Definitely recommend a supplement. I'm assuming that getting Vitamin C through food wouldn't be enough? How much a day would you recommend? Also, what Magnesium spray would be good? We are already supplementing Magnesium Glycinate at the moment.

The reason I mention colostrum is not only is it a great immune supporter, but it is high in lysine and luecine, which are amino acids that are in high concentrations in milk and that are helpful for healing skin issues and repairing damage.  Also the fatty profile in well raised and fed raw dairy seems exceptional for adding moisture to the skin, perhaps you have a source of raw dairy and can try making butter??

Being in California, we have access to high quality raw dairy. Both milk and butter. But, we shied away from dairy because it's a known allergen/inflammatory food. And he's suffered from minor "lactose-intolerance" (more like issues with pasteurized dairy, since he never exhibits symptoms from raw). Even though raw dairy, especially butter or kefir, can be healthy, we just cut it out as a precaution. Plus, there's enough anti-dairy talk here that I guess it helped discourage me.

I would suggest to try the oils you are using as food on his skin  and see how he reacts. You already mentioned coconut oil causing a rash on the skin, is that not reason enough to not take it internally?  I would still caution away from them even as flavors as they can be harsh on the liver.  Especially in someone who's health seems so sensitive and who needs to be eliminating anything that might be the least bit inflammatory......I would recommend to stay away.  Also, I used to use olive oil on my skin even though it seems awfully thick and somewhat ineffective , but I used it because it was less expensive then my preferred oil, which is JoJoba oil .  I am super sensitive and cant do other seed or nut oils, but jojoba seems to be the best oil, you might want to look into that if olive oil ever causes issues.  I have read that is it the most closely similar to our skins own that you can find.

True. I don't think we've used coconut oil in anything lately, actually. Just very minimal amounts of olive and sesame. I really do like the sesame oil. :c 

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Thanks for the info on sulfur. I've barely read anything about that at all, and I've done a lot of reading. Do we need to get that specific salt, or is there any we could find at a store like Whole Foods or something?

Again, thank you SO SO SO much for all of the info. I really appreciate the time you put into writing so much. I really hope we're going to see the end of his skin problems soon ... it would make both of us so happy.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2014, 05:04:42 am »
I have similar skin problems, although not nearly as bad.  Vitamin D supplements, specifically the Now brand, really help me.  Sunbathing also helps a little as well.

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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2014, 07:58:58 am »
I have similar skin problems, although not nearly as bad.  Vitamin D supplements, specifically the Now brand, really help me.  Sunbathing also helps a little as well.

He's currently supplementing 10,000 IU of D3. No noticeable difference. :/
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2014, 10:02:51 am »
I was in the same situation as your boyfriend. I had an eczema-covered body. Now it has completely gone.

Here is what I did (no particular order) to finally get rid of eczema:

1. followed a high ANIMAL fat, low carb diet (no oils)
2. eliminated dairy and eggs, alcohol and drugs (i also never ate nuts. I very rarely ate veg).
3. sunbathed whenever possible (not to the point of burning). Supplement with vit D when not summer.
4. never strayed from the raw palaeolithic high fat low carb diet. If I did (eg. if i drank some red wine or ate some raw honey, or chocolate etc), any healing would be reversed and I'd be back at square one, due to having scratched myself all night.
5. eliminated use of all man-made chemicals, eg washing powders, skin creams, body care products etc)
6. got an earthing bed sheet
7. removed mercury fillings
8. thought positive
9. learnt to be patient
10. avoided air pollution eg from traffic, whenever possible.
11. used an air humidifier whenever the heating in the house was on.

I can't think of anything else right now.

My diet right now is zero carb. But your boyfriend will probably be fine to eat a few berries and avocados for example.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2014, 10:05:34 am »
I almost never added/add salt to anything. The only seafood I regularly ate was wild salmon.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2014, 10:06:59 am »
One more thing: I regularly ate liver, heart and kidneys
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2014, 12:19:08 pm »
If you are interested there are two journals going on right now, one is mine, the other one is this guy named letsdoiteczema from Hong Kong.
He did more in short period of time but the basis of his recovery plan is RPD with correct supplementation.

I highly encourage staying in the game for LONGER time period.
I've noticed that there is a delayed period for results to start appearing: meaning that if you take half a year with 100% CLEAN diet, you will need to wait for a little bit for results to show at times. This is just how your body works. I've tried relapsing several times if you read my journal.

The key for me was sunlight (or D3), High Fat low carb raw paleo diet ( or even medium carb, doesn't matter that much honestly. Eat carb in relative to your activity level), and make sure you're resting a lot.

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1. a supplement that helped me a lot is the  Dr. Christopher formula for Lower Bowel Balance , The point of it is to help your digestion system flow better. Better out = better absorption of nutrients
2. Sunlight + lots of Raw Fat, eat till you full
3. Adjust carb to activity level, avoid nightshades + legumes
4. Keep a journal, encourage himself to come on instead of you. This keeps him on track more.
5. Use the journal or his own diary to keep track of food habits. Very Crucial.
6. Try to induce better sleep by supplementing with magnesium oil / magnesium drinks, they calm my mood
7. Salt addiction is something i don't know much about, but it might be mineral deficiency ? What minerals are you potentially lacking?
8. Feel free to keep using this place, message me for help if you need anything, but GS and Haai has completely cured theirs while i'm at 85%

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2014, 01:53:15 pm »
We intend to eat RPD as much as possible for as long as possible. I imagine that aside from some random things like at social events, I will be eating raw forever. I can already tell from going raw, then back to cooked, and now back to raw that my body just thrives on raw. I'm sure the boyfriend will follow suit considering that I'm generally in charge of what we eat. ;)

He hasn't been craving salt very much lately. I only add a pinch to our meals, and he hasn't been eating it straight. I'm assuming the major increase in seafood is why. When we were back to eating cooked, we ate very minimal seafood. Now, we're eating at least some type of seafood every single day. Lots of tuna and salmon, and shellfish every other night.

We have a lot of beef fat and connective tissue, so I'm getting him to eat that. Other than that, fat is generally from fatty fish like tuna belly and salmon, whatever just comes in a steak or piece of beef, and then avocado or coconut. Should we be cutting out all plant foods completely? The one thing he has trouble with is fruit, he is a fruit lover. He'll easily down pounds of fruit in one sitting if I had them in the house. How much is safe, or should it be cut out altogether? We don't eat any nuts or seeds at the moment.

I'm cutting out the sesame oil, and the olive oil will just be for his skin. He needs some type of moisturizer or he's going to go nuts. I'll be getting a pure magnesium oil tomorrow. Just had to wait for payday (literally down to less than a dollar today lol).

We were a little hesitant to just eat a liver straight, so I made "pills" out of our beef liver and froze them all. We each take 4 "pills" of raw liver a day. I know that frozen isn't as good, but it's better than not eating liver at all in my opinion. So, we're getting a little bit of liver every single day. As mentioned, I'll be getting beef shanks and other sources of beef bone marrow. Trying to find wild-caught oysters to include.

Our staple foods right now are grass-fed beef, wild-caught salmon, ahi tuna (including tuna belly), scallops, shrimp, beef liver, egg yolks, avocado, and some type of fruit (apples, banana, mango, orange). Soon to be adding the bone marrow in regularly, as well as oysters. We sometimes get another random fish like mahi mahi or snapper. I will cut out fruit if you guys suggest it.

We've started sun bathing on days we aren't working the entire daytime (just standing or sitting in direct sunlight and talking until we feel like we need to go in). As mentioned, we currently supplement D3 (he takes 10k IU, I just take 2k), and Magnesium Glycinate. He's still on probiotics, which have significantly increased his bowel movements. Always a good thing for this. Also, we use absolutely NO chemicals. Both of us are free of all body products. We just rinse for showers - no shampoo or soap. No deodorants or lotions, and I never use make-up. No funky cleaning products. All we have is an organic oil-based soap for dishes, detergent, and whatever cleaning we have to do around the house. We have an air filter, but that's about all we can do right now. We're in California, so pollution is basically unavoidable. I do everything I can to make things easy on him at home. Always slaving away in the kitchen (which isn't bad when everything is raw), rub his back, all that good stuff.

Does anyone else agree about supplementing the Glucosamine/MSM, Gelatin, and Vitamin C that was mentioned earlier? Would like more inputs.

Also, looks like today the skin on his feet have cleared up a bit. Still very swollen, though. I did give him a banana for potassium (since it was mentioned) until we decide on that supplement. His wrists had some brand new, soft skin on them, and a bit on his hands. It's slow progress, but that's still good.

Sorry, this is a random list of info. Kinda replying to all of you guys at once. Just want to get everything out there.

Thanks everyone for the replies! I feel like we're steadily getting closer.
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2014, 04:18:58 pm »
I hope you are encouraged you are in a forum with the cured people.  :)

My boy almost 13 is now eczema cured too.  He is on cooked paleo diet today but when he was in his worst intestinal injury days he had to be on completely raw paleo diet for 6 months.  Rice was making him ill, even the best heirloom rice from the rice terraces.  He now gets sweet potatoes instead at times as "chips".

Our boy just shot up growing fast after we stopped giving him rice.  Was very encouraging.  We even stopped rice for the 2 younger siblings hoping for a growth spurt with them too.  For Filipinos to give up rice is usually just unthinkable.  But there it is.

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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2014, 11:46:41 pm »
I hope you are encouraged you are in a forum with the cured people.  :)

My boy almost 13 is now eczema cured too.  He is on cooked paleo diet today but when he was in his worst intestinal injury days he had to be on completely raw paleo diet for 6 months.  Rice was making him ill, even the best heirloom rice from the rice terraces.  He now gets sweet potatoes instead at times as "chips".

Our boy just shot up growing fast after we stopped giving him rice.  Was very encouraging.  We even stopped rice for the 2 younger siblings hoping for a growth spurt with them too.  For Filipinos to give up rice is usually just unthinkable.  But there it is.

Yes, I'm VERY encouraged by the success stories I've seen here. That's why I'm considering every single thing suggested to me. We haven't eaten any grains whatsoever in almost a year. Although he messed up and had some white rice on Thanksgiving just out of habit of putting it on his plate.

And yeah, he's also Filipino and they're usually confused when we don't eat the rice, or the lumpia ..... or the pancit ... aww those things were really good. Haha.

I thought that eating really clean and healthy would be enough to help him, but it's definitely taking more work. Last night I woke up to him crying because he couldn't sleep and his body was so itchy and burning up. Need to do something soon.
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2014, 09:16:34 am »


We have a lot of beef fat and connective tissue, so I'm getting him to eat that. Other than that, fat is generally from fatty fish like tuna belly and salmon, whatever just comes in a steak or piece of beef, and then avocado or coconut. Should we be cutting out all plant foods completely? The one thing he has trouble with is fruit, he is a fruit lover. He'll easily down pounds of fruit in one sitting if I had them in the house. How much is safe, or should it be cut out altogether? We don't eat any nuts or seeds at the moment.


In my honest opinion there is no need to eliminate plant foods altogether, but pounds of sweet fruit equates to way too much sugar. If he wants fruit then I would recommend berries eg. raspberries, blackberries, blueberries and the like, but keep it to just a couple of hundred grams per day. Berries, avocados and coconut should be alright, providing your bf doesn't have a salycilate sensitivity.


Our staple foods right now are grass-fed beef, wild-caught salmon, ahi tuna (including tuna belly), scallops, shrimp, beef liver, egg yolks, avocado, and some type of fruit (apples, banana, mango, orange). Soon to be adding the bone marrow in regularly, as well as oysters. We sometimes get another random fish like mahi mahi or snapper. I will cut out fruit if you guys suggest it.



Others may well disagree with me about this, but my advice would be to cut out the scallops and shrimps (sea food allergy is pretty common and could be triggering eczema, so perhaps hold back on adding oysters to diet), cut out the egg yolks (eggs are also a common allergen), cut out the apples, bananas, mangoes and oranges (too much sugar in these), eat more liver (try 100 g per day, because 4 pills is nothing, I used to sometimes eat a 2 to 3 kg beef liver within a week, but it shouldn't be necessary to eat that much). Start eating that bone marrow asap, because animal fats should form the backbone of the diet.

Once the eczema has cleared up (this will take time, even if you are doing everything right, so be patient), if you wanted to, you could add sea food to the diet to see if it causes any problems. Then do the same with eggs. In my opinion, though, neither are essential for good health.

About supplements: the only one I ever used was vit D3.
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2014, 10:01:26 am »
I agree with Haai... try a diet without the usual allergy causing foods.
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2014, 10:05:09 am »
In my honest opinion there is no need to eliminate plant foods altogether, but pounds of sweet fruit equates to way too much sugar. If he wants fruit then I would recommend berries eg. raspberries, blackberries, blueberries and the like, but keep it to just a couple of hundred grams per day. Berries, avocados and coconut should be alright, providing your bf doesn't have a salycilate sensitivity.

Oh, I just meant he's perfectly capable of eating that much. I just stopped buying it because he has no control around any type of fruit. He'll even eat it if it's mine only. I'll make sure we're only getting berries, avo, and coconut.

Others may well disagree with me about this, but my advice would be to cut out the scallops and shrimps (sea food allergy is pretty common and could be triggering eczema, so perhaps hold back on adding oysters to diet), cut out the egg yolks (eggs are also a common allergen), cut out the apples, bananas, mangoes and oranges (too much sugar in these), eat more liver (try 100 g per day, because 4 pills is nothing, I used to sometimes eat a 2 to 3 kg beef liver within a week, but it shouldn't be necessary to eat that much). Start eating that bone marrow asap, because animal fats should form the backbone of the diet.

Once the eczema has cleared up (this will take time, even if you are doing everything right, so be patient), if you wanted to, you could add sea food to the diet to see if it causes any problems. Then do the same with eggs. In my opinion, though, neither are essential for good health.

Yeah, I'm waiting on the next Farmers Market to get our bone marrow. I can only get it from one grass-fed beef vendor, and she's going to be gone for 2 months. I'm planning to buy huge amounts of the bones to make sure he can eat at least one bone's worth of marrow a day. I'm just concerned that cutting out shellfish and eggs will further limit our already somewhat unvaried meals. I don't want him to get bad cravings and eat a ton of fruit or something.

About supplements: the only one I ever used was vit D3.

We're only doing that and Magnesium because I have bad deficiency symptoms if I'm not. But we're considering those other ones that jessica recommended. At least the Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM one.

I agree with Haai... try a diet without the usual allergy causing foods.

Okay, I guess I'll have him stop eating the eggs. More for me then!
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2014, 10:17:50 am »
Remember that diet restrictions are temporary, diets are fluid and ever changing, follow your instinct and your experiment results.

I also do not know at what level his education is, but this interview with Dr. Lorraine Day will certainly help. 

How to Survive Cancer and the Truth about AIDS w/ Dr. Lorraine Day

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I observe many old time raw paleo dieters already know this, but newbies need to take note.
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2014, 10:28:22 am »
Remember that diet restrictions are temporary, diets are fluid and ever changing, follow your instinct and your experiment results.

I also do not know at what level his education is, but this interview with Dr. Lorraine Day will certainly help. 

How to Survive Cancer and the Truth about AIDS w/ Dr. Lorraine Day

http://youtu.be/P7Fv3_Oqbgs

I observe many old time raw paleo dieters already know this, but newbies need to take note.

Yeah, I just want to keep things interesting for him. I know he's already having a tough enough time just going through all the discomfort. Having something yummy to eat can at least make him feel good for that time. But hey, there's nothing less delicious than some good fat and meat/fish in my opinion. Also, what's your opinion on guacamole? I make it with avocado, onion, garlic, cilantro, and tomato with lime juice. I can tweek the recipe if needed. I'm not a fan of plain avocado, but I love guac, so I make it sometimes.

Thanks for the video. We haven't seen it yet, but I can tell from the first minute that I probably already know the jist of it, and I'm going to enjoy it. Now I have something to listen to while I clean up.  ;D

On a side note since you mentioned education level, I'm 21 and he's 26. The info might be of use at some point so I'll just put it out there.
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2014, 10:41:35 am »
it might be smart to yolks and seafoods and fruit out but be sure you are getting plenty good quality, unprocessed and diverse fat in your diet.

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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2014, 10:51:26 am »
it might be smart to yolks and seafoods and fruit out but be sure you are getting plenty good quality, unprocessed and diverse fat in your diet.

We're going to cut them out, then. Can you recommend some good fat sources outside of beef fat, fatty fish like salmon, and bone marrow?

Side note: This lady emphasized the fact that all animal products accelerate the growth of cancer ..?
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2014, 11:35:57 am »
I suspect the fruit is making his skin problems worse.  Try cutting out fruit entirely for about a week, and getting carbs from liver.  Going high-fat and low-carb will make the vitamin D a LOT more effective.

Also, he should try the Now brand vitamin D.  I can absolutely vouch for its effectiveness. Some other brands don't actually contain very much vitamin D, I think.

Just to get rid of the worst of the skin problems, I would suggest trying a small amount of the prescription cream, just so he can sleep for a couple of nights.

Fasting seemed to help my skin problems as well, or even just eating less food in general. 

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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2014, 11:39:11 am »
I suspect the fruit is making his skin problems worse.  Try cutting out fruit entirely for about a week, and getting carbs from liver.  Going high-fat and low-carb will make the vitamin D a LOT more effective.

Also, he should try the Now brand vitamin D.  I can absolutely vouch for its effectiveness. Some other brands don't actually contain very much vitamin D, I think.

Just to get rid of the worst of the skin problems, I would suggest trying a small amount of the prescription cream, just so he can sleep for a couple of nights.

Fasting seemed to help my skin problems as well, or even just eating less food in general. 

Thanks for the info. I don't think he's going to use any topical creams. Our D3 is Now brand, too. How much do you recommend taking? No one has given me a number, yet.

I've been working on his "grazing" habits. I'll go half my day without eating, but he's always trying to snack.
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