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Info / News Items / Announcements / Interest in Paleo Diets is Exploding
« on: January 14, 2011, 08:45:58 am »
The terms "paleo diet", "primal diet", and Crossfit have been exploding in hit volume this year, easily surpassing competing terms like Ornish, "Zone diet", Taubes, Atkins, "vegetarian diet" and "vegan diet". The media and Internet companies have started to take notice and I think that some are trying to figure out if there's any way to make a profit off this trend.

Part of the reason for the explosion in interest is reportedly the Crossfit franchise (with Robb Wolf apparently being the main force behind the spreading of the Paleo diet within Crossfit), as I guessed some time ago:

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No one can say exactly why the diet has spiked in popularity recently, but internet searches of the phrase “Paleo Diet” have increased tenfold since 2007 and doubled in 2010, according to Google.

Many link the rise in interest to the explosion of more than 1,200 Crossfit gyms across the country advocating the diet. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/blog/2011/01/the_caveman_diet.html

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General Discussion / What is Your Favorite Yummy Fruit?
« on: January 10, 2011, 12:55:26 am »
Mine is wild blueberries. Those are only available a couple months out of the year. When they're not available then my favorite is organic blackberries.

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Off Topic / Ortho C: vision correction without surgery?
« on: January 06, 2011, 09:39:03 am »
I've been following David Lewis' vision correction experiment with interest, and his latest results are intriguing:

How To Reverse Nearsightedness Without Surgery, Lasers, Or Minus Lenses Part 2
By David Lewis
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 08, 2010
http://blog.modernpaleo.com/2010/12/how-to-reverse-nearsightedness-without.html

On August 31st of this year I wrote about how I was able to reverse my nearsightedness (myopia) using special plano (non-prescription) contact lenses. This therapy, called Ortho C, is a treatment developed by John Yee.

Since making my original post, I've received many emails requesting an update as well as inquiries from friends and strangers alike, all wondering if what I claim is true. Well, of course it's true! With that said, it's hard to demonstrate that it works because I can't show you what I am actually seeing. This kind of thing necessarily requires personal experimentation.

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I'm not advocating a wolf diet for humans, but it is intriguing that real-life "wolf man" Shaun Ellis fared well on a wolf-type diet high in wolves' favorite organs like liver, lungs and heart (wolves reportedly also like kidney quite a bit). He ate plenty of organs to give off the proper apex predator odor so as to be accepted as the alpha male of the wolf pack while he was filling that role (and he found that he had to eat a meat-heavy diet to be accepted into the pack at all). He has since been demoted to a lesser status in the pack after he went away for a couple weeks, so I don't know what he eats now.

One thing in the video that might distress raw purists is that he lightly cooks a liver before eating it and I think the narrator says that he did it to make it easier to digest, which is a bizarre reason (I suspect it's more likely that Shaun did it to kill bacteria, due to the common fear of pathogenic bacteria from raw flesh).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_MXskJ568o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S39KPP_z0Y
[Starting at 00:17 "...Shaun is entitled to the prime pieces of meat, the heart, kidney and liver. The rest of the pack is allowed to feed on the carcass after he has taken what is rightfully his."

A slightly different variation was reported in the NYT: “Because he is the leader of the pack, Mr. Ellis eats the liver, lungs and heart” (Kiss and Howl: This Man Is a Wolf’s Best Friend, http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/16/arts/television/16wolv.html).]

Starting at 5:09:
Narrator: “And Shaun’s body? It’s a lot tougher than he thought.”
Ellis: “Living the way that I do would be to most people a harsh existence that would leave you susceptible to most diseases and illnesses, but quite the contrary really, it’s improved my immune system dramatically. I can’t remember the last time I’ve had a cold or an upset stomach and it’s almost like nature prepares you for their world and because of that you tend to be able to get away with most things.”

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Smelly Poop from Veg?
« on: December 31, 2010, 04:52:32 am »
I've seen vegans and fruitarians claim that their "shit doesn't smell," if you'll pardon the expression, and that they fart less since going vegan. Yet I've found pretty much the opposite--that my feces smell less when I eat just meat and animal fat than when I eat veg and I hardly fart at all when I'm eating just meat and fat. When I eat too much veg my feces smell like rotting vegetation from a swamp and I don't think this is just due to decreased ability to digest plant foods after going VLC, as my feces used to smell more when I was on SAD and moderate-carb Paleo too.

There's also this--the feces of folivorous howler monkeys are reportedly "extremely odorous." Howler monkeys eat mostly leaves, fruits and flowers according to http://www.bristolzoo.org.uk/black-howler-monkey, and "They are reported to eat more leaves than any other New World monkey." (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CB0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.honoluluzoo.org%2Fhowler_monkey.htm&ei=--MbTfW7GYG8sQPsi7ncAg&usg=AFQjCNEASO5-gj_VxsTPhaHpkqUwe9TxAA).

On the other hand the Innu Eskimos have a "Fart Man" spirit (Matshishkapeu). So the overall picture is puzzlingly contradictory. Anyone have any explanations that might resolve these seeming contradictions?

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Despite living in subtropical Paraguay, the traditional Aché reportedly only average 1% of their calories from fruits:

"Systematic recording of dietary intake while living in the forest entirely off wild foods suggests that about 80% of the energy in the diet comes from meat, 10% from palm starch and hearts, 10% from insect larva and honey, and 1% from fruits. Total energy intake is approximately 2700 kcal per person daily, and males acquire about 84% of all calories consumed. Children do not produce significant amounts of food until they are fully adult. Despite the presence of over 500 species of edible vertebrate prey, only 9 species of mammals provide more than 1% of the prey biomass actually harvested by Aché hunters. Most important (in descending order) are Nine-banded Armadillo, Paca, South American Tapir, Capuchin monkey, White-lipped Peccary, South American Coati, Red Brocket, and Tegu lizards."[20]  

Source: Hill, K., and K. Hawkes. (1983) Neotropical hunting among the Aché of Eastern Paraguay. In Adaptive Responses of Native Amazonians, R. Hames and W. Vickers, eds., pp. 139–188. New York: Academic Press http://ihhr.asu.edu/kim/1983%20Neotropical%20hunting%20among%20the%20Ache%20of%20Eastern%20Paraguay.pdf

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General Discussion / Cooked foods more antigenic than raw
« on: December 13, 2010, 11:10:07 am »
Here is a study showing cooked foods are more antigenic than raw, Tyler. Feel free to put it wherever you want.

Detection of IgE, IgG, IgA and IgM antibodies against raw and processed food antigens
Published online 2009 May 12
Aristo Vojdani
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2685801/

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Off Topic / Autism Research
« on: December 12, 2010, 07:32:49 pm »
This thread is for sharing autism research, not for unsupported opinions. If you're going to share an opinion please at least support it with a study or research of some sort. Here's a study that was just published in the Journal of the American Medical Association followed by commentary:

Mitochondrial Dysfunction in Autism
JAMA. 2010;304(21):2389-2396.
December 8, 2010
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/304/21/2389.abstract%22%20target=

"Context: Impaired mitochondrial function may influence processes highly dependent on energy, such as neurodevelopment, and contribute to autism. ....

Conclusion: In this exploratory study, children with autism were more likely to have mitochondrial dysfunction, mtDNA overreplication, and mtDNA deletions than typically developing children."


Autism Research: Breakthrough Discovery on the Causes of Autism
Posted: December 11, 2010 11:37 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/autism-research-discovery_b_794967.html

A study just published in The Journal of the American Medical Association by researchers from the University of California, Davis called "Mitochondrial Dysfunction in Autism" (i) discovered a profound and serious biological underpinning of autism -- an acquired loss of the ability to produce energy in the cells, damage to mitochondria (the energy factories in your cells), and an increase in oxidative stress (the same chemical reaction that causes cars to rust, apples to turn brown, fat to become rancid, and skin to wrinkle). These disturbances in energy metabolism were not due to genetic mutations, which is often seen in mitochondrial problems, but a condition the children studied acquired in utero or after birth.

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Primal Diet / Recipe for Living Without Disease by Aajonus Vonderplanitz
« on: November 29, 2010, 08:39:16 am »
I'm re-reading this after quickly skimming it the first time. Here's a good quote from the book:

"People have been conditioned, in the name of 'advanced' technological living, that anything 'raw' or 'primitive' is bad, and that technology at any price is good. The words 'raw' and 'primitive' have been propagandized to mean unclean, gross and disease-causing."

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Off Topic / Paleo Diet Guinea Pig Project
« on: November 24, 2010, 08:06:14 am »
For those who are interested about the Paleo aspect of RPD, it looks like the folks at guineapigproject.com are going to be testing out a Paleo diet on a human guinea pig in the near future and report the results. "Jeff" from their site mentioned it in a comment on an article that is a lame attack on Paleo:

http://www.diet-blog.com/10/poll_paleo_diet_-_cult_fad_or_solution.php
JEff on 22 Nov 2010
I think with any of these types of things there has to be care taken before bashing a point of view. If you don't have the scientific base to argue the reasons why not and you haven't tried it properly yourself you can't really say.

We have a guinea pig who is going to test it out along with an exercise program and document everything the guineapigproject.com will track all the angles not just the results but how he feels, how easy it is to follow, the time it takes and the enjoyment of doing it. The first eating 'fad' we are going to try with him is paleo and we will see how that makes him feel.

Before you judge, learn about it, try it and comment from an educated point of view.

Jeff

BTW, If you want you can vote for Paleo being a "solution" vs. a "fad" or "cult" at the site of the attack piece: http://www.diet-blog.com/10/poll_paleo_diet_-_cult_fad_or_solution.php

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Off Topic / Need Tips re: smoked, salted and pickled foods for a friend
« on: November 15, 2010, 11:15:10 am »
"What I need to find are things that I can order over the internet that are preserved meats that are soft and tender. Like the [raw smoked prosciutto]- I'm going to order that. "melts in your mouth" - sold me. I have to find some pickled herring in a jar because she likes that. Some pate in a jar. Some raw pastrami that maybe I can cut up into itsy bitsy pieces that she can put on my non- cracker crackers."

"She will not eat sashimi, but she will eat lox. She will eat smoked, salted, pickled etc. meats because she grew up with these things but the idea of eating plain raw fish is foreign to her..."


A friend is looking for foods like these for her mother who's sick with cancer and has trouble digesting. She won't eat foods that are labeled "raw" but she will eat foods that are labeled "smoked" (even if they are cold-smoked and therefore raw).

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General Discussion / Egg Yolks: Raw vs. Cooked
« on: November 11, 2010, 12:25:45 pm »
Is there any reason that raw egg yolks (not talking about whites in this thread) is superior to cooked yolks other than heat-created toxins? Is there any nutritional difference? Does anyone have any studies supporting the toxin or nutrition angles? Someone at another forum is asking me about this.

Thanks

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Off Topic / "First Cannibals Ate Each Other for Extra Nutrition"
« on: November 08, 2010, 09:07:21 am »
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First Cannibals Ate Each Other for Extra Nutrition
Why did our ancestors eat each other? Simple: They were hungry.

By Jennifer Viegas | Thu Aug 26, 2010 05:20 AM ET
http://news.discovery.com/human/first-cannibals-nutrition.html

These practices were conducted by Homo antecessor, who inhabited Europe one million years ago," according to the research team, led by Eudald Carbonell. ....

They added that the butchery techniques identified at the site "show the primordial intention of obtaining meat and marrow and maximally exploiting nutrients. Once consumed, human and nonhuman remains were dumped, mixing them together with lithic tools."

This research offers an interesting contrast to that of Mary Doria Russell, although she studied the remains of Croatian Neanderthals rather than H. antecessor. As additional evidence is uncovered it will be interesting to see what scientists claim it reveals about various of our ancestors and whether it helps resolve the controversy (and maybe it will turn out that both Russell and Carbonell are right). As I stated in the past, my guess is that cannibalism was done for a variety of reasons. I think that food was probably a more important motivation early on and other reasons gradually assumed more importance over time (at least in the minds of the cannibals)--for example, the desire for mana (strength, power, social standing, etc.) by the Maori warriors of much more recent times.

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Info / News Items / Announcements / Ray Mears Endorses Paleo aspect of RPD
« on: November 01, 2010, 03:07:23 am »
I don't know how I missed this up to this point, as Ray's Bushcraft TV show is my favorite on the subject matter (and there are other goodies on related matters, like Bruce Parry's Tribe, another BBC program BTW).

The Ray Mears caveman diet
The survival expert Ray Mears tells why we should all be eating like our hunter-gatherer ancestors

Emma Smith
October 12, 2008
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/men/article4919415.ece
"We still have a Stone Age body. We have modern minds, but our brains and bodies still require the same food.”


Plus, Ray sometimes eats raw meats on his show, so his views come closer to RPD than most Westerners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJlO0aifJxA


Though in the article he acknowledges that his actual diet includes a lot more cheating than would seem wise given his knowledge.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Are you a ZCer?
« on: October 18, 2010, 08:32:48 am »
By ZC I mean you consistently try to get your carbs down to as close to zero as possible and regard any carb eating as cheating.

I'm curious about how many actual ZCers we have here and how their numbers compare to the rest of us. I figured an anonymous poll might maximize the number of responses. Some non-ZCers probably don't read this section of the forum, so the numbers may be skewed toward ZCers.

I'm not a ZCer myself. See my avatar description for my current approach.

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I created a sticky with an explanation of zero carb. I locked it to keep it a reference resource rather than a debate thread. I've created this second thread in case any ZCers think my explanation has errors or needs more added and for any other comments people would like to make about the sticky.

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"Zero carb" (ZC) as a term can be confusing, misleading, and divisive, but it remains popular, so I'll try to explain the term in an effort to minimize future confusion.

It's impossible to achieve literally zero carbs, because even meats contain trace amounts of carbs. Most ZCers know this, so ZC is really shorthand for a diet that tries to minimize carbs. However, different people have different definitions of ZC and some people's definitions, or at least the explanations of them, have changed in the past, so it's best to think of this as a rough label and not get too hung up on its meaning. For example, milk and yoghurt used to be prohibited at the ZIOH zero-carb-diet-promoting forum per Bear Stanley's dietary principles and because milk contains significant carbs. Liver and eggs used to be frowned upon at ZIOH, though I don't think they were prohibited, because they tend to contain significant amounts of carbs. [Update on 4.19.11: people at the Dirty Carnivore forum informed me that Charles W. and the ZIOH forum have reverted back to the original definition of ZC that excludes carb-containing dairy products like milk and yoghurt.]

Bear's original 7 milk-and-yoghurt-free rules that were still listed on ZIOH as of at least 07-20-2010:
http://forum.dirtycarnivore.com/index.php/topic,358.msg11532.html#msg11532
3) On diary (sic): avoid milk and yoghurt (heavy carbs- lactose), use only pure (not 'thickened'- heavy) cream (read the label), cheese and unsalted butter.

% of calories as carbs, per Nutritiondata:
Milk, whole, 3.25% milkfat: 30%
Beef, variety meats and by-products, liver, raw: 12%
Egg, whole, raw, fresh: 2%

Other less confusing related terms for rawists that do not imply that it's possible to eat literally zero carbs but do suggest an attempt to minimize them include:
- raw pure carnivore; raw 100% carnivore (RPC)
- raw obligate carnivore (ROC)
- raw meat diet (RMD); if this is meant to include liver, then it would fall into the category below

These could include more than 1% carbs, so they aren't technically exact alternatives to ZC, but come pretty close:
- raw carnivore (RC)
- raw facultative carnivore (RFC)
- raw animal foods (RAF)
- raw very low carb (RVLC)
- raw zero plant foods (RZPF)
- raw meat/organ diet (RMO)
- and others...

Descriptions:

Raw Carnivore = what a carnivore would eat--meat, fat, organs, fish, shellfish, eggs, insects and some fruits, greens, seaweeds or honey if they are facultative (a carnivore that does not depend solely on animal foods). For example, the polar bear will eat kelp or berries if meat/fish is not available. A small amount of raw milk or kefir might fit too, since a carnivore/hunter might happen to kill and eat a lactating female animal, but dairy wouldn't typically be a staple (although some folks who call themselves carnivores or Zero Carbers eat dairy fat, such as butter). Technically, some carnivores like the Giant Panda and other bears eat omnivorous or herbivorous diets despite being classified as carnivores due to carnivorous taxonomy and morphology, but for the purposes of human diets people generally mean a diet heavy in animal flesh, with plant foods seen as a nonessential, medicinal or very minor aspect.
> facultative carnivore: a carnivore that may consume non-animal foods (but non-animal foods are not essential for its survival; examples: canids, lorids, most bears--some prefer to call facultatively carnivorous bears "omnivores," though "omnivore" is not a truly scientific term). "When other food is unavailable, polar bears sometimes eat muskox, reindeer, small rodents, seabirds, shellfish, fish, eggs, kelp, berries, ...." http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/where_we_work/arctic/area/species/polarbear/diet/
> obligate carnivore: a carnivore that depends solely on the nutrients found in animal flesh for its survival (it may consume some plants, but only for medicinal or other non-nutritive purposes; example: the big cats)

Raw Dirty Carnivore = raw carnivore plus a small amount of foods that are acknowledged as not carnivorous (ex: dairy fat as a staple); very similar to raw facultative carnivore, with a somewhat looser definition

Raw Animal Foods = meat, fat, organs, fish, shellfish, eggs, insects + dairy is often a staple; generally no or negligible plant foods; I would think that honey could be included; seaweeds are are a sort of combination of plant and animal, so I'm guessing that they're not included; I'm also guessing that fungi are not included, which are neither plants nor animals

Raw Zero Plant Foods = literally what it says (everything but plant foods); add fungi to RAF and add seaweeds if RAF is not considered to include them; this term was just recently invented at this forum, I think, so I doubt that many are using it

[Post edited to make it more of an information post suitable to a sticky]

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Off Topic / Vaccinations on the road to becoming compulsory?
« on: October 11, 2010, 07:33:16 am »
This year my employer in the healthcare industry is asking us employees to complete an "Influenza Vaccination Verification questionnaire" to "help identify barriers to vaccination and to document vaccines received elsewhere." It sounds like they are moving more toward requiring everyone get vaccinations.

They have a Q&A on flu myths that I didn't read yet, but it's probably like the federal government version at http://www.flu.gov/myths/. One thing it says is:

"Why do some people not feel well after getting the seasonal flu shot?
The most common side effect of seasonal flu shots in adults has been soreness at the spot where the shot was given, which usually lasts less than two days. The soreness is often caused by a person's immune system making protective antibodies to the killed viruses in the vaccine. These antibodies are what allow the body to fight against flu. The needle stick may also cause some soreness at the injection site. According to the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), rare symptoms include fever, muscle pain, and feelings of discomfort or weakness. If these problems occur, they are very uncommon and usually begin soon after the shot and last 1-2 days."

I have gotten most of these flu-like symptoms after every flu vaccination I've had (which is three or four, as I recall), although they seem to diminish some with each vaccination. While it's not a real flu, it wasn't pleasant and in one case lasted for over 2 days. So I don't see the point of going through that every year when I haven't had any flulike illnesses in four years and the last one had symptoms milder than what the vaccine produces in me and I don't have direct contact with patients.

Does anyone have good reasons I can give for why I shouldn't have to get an annual influenza vaccination?

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Health / Tooth Deformity
« on: October 01, 2010, 10:38:36 am »
I have a deformity in one tooth that's like a dent into it. It's not a cavity, but some plaque does accumulate there. The dentist wants to even it out by adding a filling. I said OK without thinking about it much. Does anyone know if there's a "holistic dentistry" type alternative to filling in the dent? If not, what sort of filling material should I get?

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Off Topic / Vegan Reformed - Praises Meat's Benefits
« on: September 24, 2010, 06:51:13 am »
A poignant story both sad and happy...

laney
September 23rd, 2010
11:58 am

"Hi, so this is what I want to say on the vegetarian [posts]. I have read back and forth that some say a plant based diet is the most healthy and I have read the opposite as well. And of course everyone has data to back up their hypothesis. I don’t have data, but I do have my own life experience. I was raised vegan by a very well intentioned mother. My staple foods growing up were brown rice, millet, barley, quinoa, soy milk, tofu, sea vegetables, squash, yams, sweet potatoes and fruits. My mother never smoked, drank alcohol and was an avid yogini. At 54, my mother died from a horrible autoimmune disease. No one could believe that she died. She was so thin and healthy! But by the time she died, her osteoporosis was so bad that she had 70% bone density loss. She had compression fractures up and down her spine, and couldn’t even be moved in a wheelchair, she needed to be lifted up and down in a stretcher flat on her back. Which was easy because she only weighed around 80 pounds at her sickest. Before she died, she said to me, “I think we made a mistake here…” and she made me promise that I’d try to eat meat. I was very resistant after her death, believing that it was not her diet that killed her, it was an autoimmune disease. But eventually I gave in and began to eat dairy, then fish, then chicken and turkey, then red meat. It was the best thing I ever did. My fingernails began to grow, my hair became thicker and more lustrous, and I stopped getting sick (I used to have sinus infections all the time– I haven’t had one in years). But the most notable difference was that I stopped being dizzy and foggy. I used to be pretty spacey, had trouble concentrating and was always dizzy when I stood up. That all stopped pretty instantly. I was 28 when I began eating meat again. I wish I’d done it 10 years earlier, college would have been a very different experience for me."

http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2010/09/19/paleo-diet-solution/

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She started eating raw eggs and then raw marinated and lightly cooked meat after developing problems like memory issues and her muscles getting smaller after 5 years of raw veganism. She also met a dozen fruitarians who lost their teeth or "developed scads of cavities." She also tried raw dairy but didn't do well on it.

Susan Schenck Explains Generational Studies Done on the Vegan Diet (Part 4) : The Renegade Health Show Episode #653
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E274v0ue0T4&feature=player_embedded

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Health / Friend with Impacted Wisdom Tooth
« on: August 18, 2010, 11:50:23 am »
A friend of mine has an impacted wisdom tooth. In the pocket between it and the tooth it's pressing into, bad bacteria are populating and causing very bad breath. Any suggestions?

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Here's how I'm defining the options:

1. Raw* Facultative Carnivore (faunivore**): eats some plant foods, but they're not a major or necessarily essential part of the diet (examples: PaleoPhil; some indigenous Arctic peoples like Inuits and Chukchis; lorids; wolves, foxes, wild and domestic dogs); around 90+% of the diet is carnivorous; little or no dairy
2. Raw Obligate Carnivore (faunivore): only nondairy animal foods with maybe the occasional exception as a treat (examples: Lex--though he has said he may add back some plant foods in the future and doesn't see obligate carnivory as necessary for humans; maybe Katelyn; the traditional Greenland Inuit and coastal Chukchi came close at 99% carnivorous, but would probably have eaten more plant foods if they could have; tarsiers; big cats like lions and domestic cats)
3. Raw Zero Carb: tries to avoid all carbs as much as possible, including liver, shellfish, eggs and milk (examples: Katelyn comes close, but I think she eats some liver and eggs now)
4. Raw Animal Foods: includes dairy products; under 10% or so of diet as plant foods (I believe at least several people here; traditional pastoral peoples like Evenks and Masai)

* I'm defining raw as more than 90% raw foods, including the majority of animal foods eaten raw
** I'm assuming that it's not necessary to use the lesser-known term faunivore instead of carnivore in the actual voting options list, because I doubt anyone here regularly eats a lot of insects or small invertebrates like sponges, but if you do then please select the option that comes closest to your diet and post that you're actually a faunivore and mention what you eat.

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Off Topic / European Hunter Gatherers Survived After All
« on: August 11, 2010, 10:09:49 am »
"at least for Southern Scandinavia, our findings do not support a possible replacement of a haplogroup U dominated hunter-gatherer population by a more haplogroup diverse Neolithic Culture." http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0011898

Determining ancestral makeup based on DNA analysis is turning out to be more art than science as each new report that comes out seems to contradict the one that came before it. Recently a few reports suggested that Neolithic farmers had essentially replaced the HGs of Europe. I was skeptical of this and now there's a report that supports my skepticism--but other pro farmer-hypothesis reports could come out.

I'm also skeptical that NeanderThal genes only represent 1-4% of Eurasian genes. I'm expecting that number to be revised upward at some point, though probably not a lot, with small geographic pockets containing people with higher ratios.

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Calistro California Bistro introduces Paleolithic menu
http://www.azcentral.com/thingstodo/dining/articles/2010/08/05/20100805calistro-california-bistro-paleolithic-menu.html
"Some chefs try to predict future trends for their cooking inspiration. Calistro California Bistro chef-owner Devin Walsh is looking back. By about 2.5 million years.
…."

[However, menu items like gluten-free tortillas is what I refer to as “fake Paleo” or “fooling-yourself Paleo”—the sorts of foods people eat when they refuse to give up modern foods but fool themselves into thinking they’re still doing Paleo. They’re the sort of crap that dominated the Paleofood forum in the early days until most folks discovered they still had cravings if they ate them and felt a hell of a lot better if they gave them up.]

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