Hey all,

I had a break from RVAF for a while, mainly because of a plethora of problems that arose, which I've still not resolved.

However, I've been suffering too at the hands of neolithic foods (which I was eating for more energy), so I was trying to refocus again on raw paleo, although I'm so dysregulated now that I just don't know what to eat/incorporate.

I watched a documentary about mongolians using golden eagles to achieve their hunting in the mountains, which was amazing and inspiring - I really wanted to emulate their paleo hunting way.

Suffice to say, I'm wondering again what you're eating daily - muscle meats, organ meats, fat/marrow etc.?

I think my body is too metabolically and nutritionally damaged from past SAD/abuse and raw veganism to heal now (especially maybe because my gut is totally dysbiotic and my stomach acid and bile output are insufficient), although I can still just do my best in this situation out of respect for life. Who is taking HCl and bile salts with their meals?

My teeth still suffered on raw paleo as well as my gums (receding), so I can imagine that I wasn't getting sufficient minerals and fat-soluble activators (or maybe my uptake was poor). Metabolically, I wish I'd chosen raw paleo over raw veganism in the beginning - maybe then I'd have had the "fire" to digest better and not be so depleted in the first place. I was so naive at the time though and green smoothies sounded easier than raw liver.

Best,
Scotty

Hey gang,

I realise that my attitude in previous posts was very maligned and less than productive for myself and others, so I've decided to change my demeanour somewhat.

As you know, I'm currently *working* to overcome some problems I encountered in my journey of trying to recover my health.

8 weeks ago, I was swamped with some major symptoms, which align with adrenal dysregulation. I've since discovered that my cortisol has been very high, as well as my ESTROGEN! Yeah, I have high estrogen...

Strangely enough, in the last day or two, I have a tender swelling in my right breast. This is on top of deteriorating vision, loss of collagen from my skin/joints and many other things like constant dehydration, fluctuating pupils, inability to handle stress etc.

I'm now wondering if everything goes back to my liver, which is responsible for clearing estrogen. Maybe my unfinished business of liver cleansing actually contributed to estrogen dominance, which may have contributed to adrenal fatigue (or not).

Also, my eyebrows and eyelashes have become unbelievably bushy.

The point of the post is to appeal for anyone here with experience of combining raw paleo with liver/GB detoxification in the context of adrenal dysregulation.

Let me know if you can help me with any suggestions.

Nice one,
BBQ

Hey all,

Can anyone experienced here help me with impending/onset adrenal fatigue/burnout/insufficiency?

It seems that accidental ketosis started the cycle (I seem unable to stay out of ketosis with only fruits) or flicked the switch and now my circadian cortisol production is out of whack (no sleep), plus my body is constantly losing water (low production of aldosterone to maintain sodium levels).

No sleep and chronic water/sodium loss seems to be destroying my body (muscle, bone, connective tissues/collagen) and I need to initiate a program to break the cycle and support my adrenals (if the origin isn't actually more pituitary like some believe).

I'm classic low-adrenal here (http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-symptoms-matrix), even to the extent that I've lost lower leg hair (weird symptom) and I'm growing hairs in weird places (eyebrows particularly more full).

At the moment, it seems that the only way to combat low aldosterone production and resulting sodium/electrolyte imbalance is to drink unrefined salt water, but I'm sure this is also creating other imbalances (maybe overdosing on trace minerals).

Here're some suggestions for restoring/supporting the adrenals, which I may consider...
http://www.drrind.com/therapies/adrenal-support-recommendation-sheet

Too much longer in this metabolic state will easily suck what I have left of my health, so if anyone has anything to contribute, it would be most appreciated (trying to maintain calm)...

SOS, thanks!

Hey all,

I'm currently more underweight than I'd like to be for my height (1.7m @ 58kg) and I'm wondering how I can gain weight without having to include starches, which seem to screw me up in excess (my teeth/gums especially get a messy sensation about them).

I've been eating 200g fat + 200g meat, along with some fruits (maybe a few pieces per day), although I'm cold and struggle to maintain weight (especially with any physical exercise) at this measure.

It seems to me that I'm not getting enough calories from my diet (to create an energy excess) and the best thing I can think to do is increase fat (too much fruit is not good and too much protein is not good for me).

I've been trying to consume 300g fat per day and I was wondering if anyone else consumes this much fat (in the form of animal fat).

Did anyone particularly struggle to maintain weight thus far and find a resolution in more calories? I seem to think my body just burns calories like crazy (fast oxidiser), even though I lead a fairly sedentary personal/professional life.

Currently, I'm avoiding excessive physical activity (even though I love it) just to conserve energy.

Please help me...

Scotty

Hey all,

I've just placed an order with Dr. Ron's for Organ Delight and Thyroid+Liver, although they mentioned that Organ Delight might be tricky to get through UK customs - has anyone here imported Organ Delight into the UK (and with any trepidation)?

Also, did anyone do the adrenals test with shining bright light into the eye and checking if the pupil can stay small? My pupils have always been very large since I can remember and they seem to struggle to stay small when shining bright light into them, which some say is indicative of adrenal dysfunction.

I'm pretty inactive around here at the moment due to a busy livelihood and supplementing my RAF and fruit with cooked vegetables (so my mindset is a little off exclusively raw). It would be nice if I could spend more time on here, but it's just not doable at the moment.

Cheers,

Scotty

Hey all,

Does anyone here eat raw cartilage and if so, how do you make it edible?

I've been experimenting with cooked bone broths, although the old headache/migraine effect of excitotoxicity from free glutamic acid always kicks in after a few doses in a day, which could be down to allsorts like low thyroid, excess PUFAs etc. (I read on http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.com that healing the thyroid can resolve amine/glutamate sensitivity) Most people aren't sensitive to that little free glutamates, but it seems I am for some reason - plus I'm anti-cooking, of course.

So in hoping to make some progress with tooth healing (my teeth do strengthen on bone broth - more so than raw bone meal), I've asked my local farm to save me the spine from a beef carcass, but I don't know how I could consume the cartilage (from the discs) without extensive cooking.

It's ironic that most people tout bone broth/gelatine as a "sacred food" and yet it seems to screw with my neurons! Bloody ridiculous...

Also, does anyone have any ideas about the toughest cuts of meat, like neck, brisket, chuck etc.?

Thanks for your help.

Very best,

Scotty

Hey all,

I just bought some "spring lamb" chops and they were amazing tasting (raw).

What's the consensus on the nutritional superiority of spring-finished meats over other seasons, given Weston Price's observations that springtime cow butter is richer (particularly in K2) in nutrient value. Does it make much difference to the nutrient value of their fats?

I was considering maybe buying a bulk of spring meat for freezing and enjoying it a little longer. Yum...

Any thoughts please?

Best,

Scotty

Hey all,

I've been trying to heal my teeth (a la Weston Price proposition) on a raw diet over the last couple of years, although it's proved quite unsuccessful thus far (actually losing more enamel).

I realise that it's problematic for me to be raw zero-carb (which has been effective for others hoping to increase bone density and repair teeth), so I'm generally trying to include minimal carbs to keep me out of ketosis.

However, most of the raw carb choices are fruit and honey (overly-sweet and acidic), plus nuts seem to promote tooth decay (I've eliminated all nuts for the foreseeable future).

Has anyone noticed tooth healing with raw omni (with maybe 100g raw animal fats per day) and the inclusion of Green Pasture raw fermented cod liver oil, Green Pasture butter oil and maybe some supplementary D3 and 6-12 (very orange) egg yolks per week?

I realise that raw butter is not paleo and that some strains of raw grass-fed butter are more suitable than others (that is, from A2 milk instead of A1 milk), but it's meant to be high in K2, which is very beneficial for tooth healing and bone building.

I realise that zero-carbers don't need raw butter to strengthen bones/teeth, but currently my low carb trials do not seem to be having the "stop the rot" effect that I need to save my teeth (functionally and aesthetically).

Is it possible that I'm just being impatient and that my nutritional status will gradually improve after 6-12 months, or should I change my protocol to just having fruit every couple of days? Personally, I reckon that eliminating the nuts will help, although I do reckon that fruit has a negative impact on my teeth, even in small quantities.

Does anyone alternate daily between honey and fruit, or anything else carby? I do secure possibly the finest honeycomb in my locality, which I could eat regularly in small amounts, but I like the idea of enjoying some vitamin C intake too. I've also been enjoying bee pollen from the same source, which I really enjoy.

I know that you (my good contemporaries) will have some useful guidelines for me, so here I am putting my enquiry into the ether...

Best,

Scotty

Well, school's closed today, so I thought I'd begin my foray into journalistic anthropocentricity.

Nature proving to be the chief undertaker, I'm int'rested in the various schools of naturalism as far as I can be self-sufficient and altruistic without proving to be oppressive to my kinfolk.

My burgeoning dietary funk has brought me to this compassionate nexus of the paleorati, for which I'm thankful...;-)) Actually really thankful...(thank you for having me!)

It's actually one of the best communities I've been a party to, which is a strong testament to the original paleolithic mindset (orgiastic!).

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Most of my youth was misspent, although instead of dying young, I decided to explore the possibility that most people are digging their own grave with their teeth and various less-than-benign pharma-peddling industrial complexes are profiting somehow. Misinformation abounds, even in the counter-counter communities...

I seem to have an (accultured from the womb?) affinity for the sweet and the sour, so as a long-term citrus junkie, my tooth enamel has been subjected to some demineralisation and as a family member who faithfully trimmed the fat off his meat and passed it on, I could imagine that the combination of sugary-acid payloads and lack of fats has severely diminished my dental sufficiency. Ignorance was bliss...now not so!

Nevertheless, in my stumbling, meandering manner, I happened upon the work of Weston A. Price, which proved to be a revelation of sorts - something that I did not value highly enough at the time, given the advocation of dairy, which I had long been avoiding. I was also not much of a cook, so I couldn't imagine boiling bones, plus I knew that most cod liver oil was already rancid and heat processed. In a twist of madness, I happened upon the raw plant-based community with its anecdotes of tooth healing and the power of greens etc. (hehe), which ushered in a retrospectively futile two year pursuit of the hallmarks of healing. I'd read about the raw paleolithic approach almost at the beginning, but concluded immediately that it was impracticable (what, meat, raw?!).

Although I've disposed of the temporal dimension in my realisation of the intensity of the here and now (which is all we have), I'm beginning this chronicle as a means to facilitate my recollection of experientially-realised states of health-reclamation - something that I've not necessarily fully realised thus far (and wouldn't necessarily expect to either!). Damned if I do, damned if I don't!

My staples are currently raw grass-fed rump/chuck steak, lamb chops, brisket fat, creamy marrow fat, lamb's/cow's liver and other select cuts when I feel the urge. I like to lacto-ferment my liver in sparkling water kefir, so it usually has a fizzy tingle (maybe my teeth are affected by that though). I consume F-CLO, raw butter oil and krill oil, along with sporadic GLA oils etc. I enjoy odd fruits including cucumber, avocado, coconuts and various berries (sometimes half a mango or papaya, if I feel like it).

I continue to attempt to transition to RZC as a means for healing my teeth, which are compromised to the extent that anything other than meat/fat feels like it's penetrating the dentine and irritating the nerve tissue. However, since maturing into RVAF, I've noticed a strengthening of feeling in the teeth, as if the roots are held in tighter or something.

I respect circadian rhythms and it's ~22:00 here, so I'm ascending to my darkened, electrically-silent room for the matter of deep, deep sleep (sleeping with no clothes seems to be even more effective for the deep delta brain wave state).

'til the next time...

Hey all,

I've been away from the forum for some time, trying to go with my intuition and attempting to transition of low/zero carb RAF.

However, this last week, after eating mainly meat, fat and egg yolks (usually 60% fats - for last 2 weeks), I've noticed some aching in my upper left quadrant and often an almost hypertensive/tachycardic state. I've been using my training heart rate monitor to check my resting/walking pulse, which is generally between 85-105. My breathing also seems to be more pronounced/hyper when I'm conscious of it. I've also been drinking coconut water with a few drops of ConcenTrace (trace elements without the sodium) for extra minerals, as well as taking a few capsules of french clay + shilajit.

Is this a typical effect of transitioning to keto-adaptation and should i fall back to a certain weight of carbs again to gauge the effect? I know there are posts on here documenting various ill effects from immature transitioning to zero carb RAF but I don't recall when anyone/everyone posted now.

I've never known my heart/circulation to be this restless before, so I'm wondering if anyone has any insights.

Cheers,

MrBBQ

Hey all,

Hope everyone's good...(another miniscule thread!)

Is raw wholly pastured goose fat with skin good to eat raw, or should i give it to the birds?

Nice one!

Cheers,

MrBBQ

Hey all,

(moderators, feel free to displace the thread if it's misplaced, thanks!)

Finally, I'm kicking off a new thread, which is about a point of interest that's kept me intrigued for a few months...

Well, it all started when I was taking a non-wholefood vitamin K2 MK-4 supplement based on some research that I'd been doing about strengthening skeletal/dental tissue. I was aware that this supplement was synthetic, but I was willing to experiment with the RDA for a short duration to gauge any effects (as a means to identify any deficiency - strange approach, I know). This was during my raw vegan days...Ultimately, I believe this impacted my blood coagulation, which may have caused a very slight oxygen starvation to the brain tissues, leaving me with some strange cognitive and motor disturbances (which I still notice to a lesser extent now - e.g. a slight tremor when making fine hand movements)...

Suffice to say, I should've known better to stay away from synthetic doses of vitamins that effect blood coagulation as well as bone matrix protein activation. I learned my lesson...

Nevertheless, the fat-soluble plot thickens...

I'd read (I think) on WPF's website that the high doses of retinol (A) and cholecalciferol were (D3) quite safe in reasonably high doses due to the synergistic balancing of these 2 vitamins along with K2 (menaquinone MK-4) from aquatic/land livers. Obviously, I've read the stories about polar bear liver-induced deaths.

In the last couple of weeks, I've been taking 6ml fermented CLO per day, plus I ate ~6oz lamb's liver this week, along with a good measure of trimmed fats. Already, in a matter of days, my teeth feel stronger than they have done for a long time...

So, I've just seen this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HoW5S-Ij1A

Now I'm thinking about it, does my back feel a little stiff after shifting 30 flag stones the other day, or am I already feeling the effects of fat-soluble vitamins in excess, which my body can't easily eliminate.

I never want to insult any of my tissues ever again with excess fat-soluble vitamins, so I'm looking for some advice about a careful approach to consuming these organ meats (or their raw pressed oils), especially in a tooth healing protocol.

It seems that there's a caveat with consuming anything and it's sometimes undermining to one's own esteem to realise that foolish overconsumption is an easily fulfilled potential!

Please enlighten me and accept my apologies if this is a well-laboured topic already.

All the very best,

MrBBQ (journeying yet again!)