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Title: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 11, 2012, 09:39:34 pm
So I did not really knew where to post this but thought I could do a journal for updates.
I follow the Kruse protocol now, that includes limit artificial lights after dark, cold thermogenesis (CT), and seasonal, local diet - in winter keto and in summer in addition for CH fruit / berries in season where you live.
I try to eat wild foods as much as I can, it means for carbohydrates I have only wild berries (I live in Finland) and wild honey (small amounts). I feel great with that. There is so plenty of wild raspberries these days that I literally stuff myself once or more / day...
I also do a brain-optimizing diet. That means lots of seafoods, especially whole animal, the heads and all included. Algae are a important part too, very nutritious. I do eat coconut oil, raw and organic. I buy the most expensive brand mostly, that is also very good quality. I tolerate it so good, I can eat a jar in a day I think without issues.. I do eat coconut too at times.
For meat almost only elkmeat or other wild meat, sometimes grassfed lamb too or greassfed beef.

I do eat cooked now and then, fish actually. Very lightly cooked, just for a minute or two. But mostly I eat the fish raw though. Meat I have always raw, and organs too.
I never eat bread or rice or anything junk. I try to avoid dairy, it does me no good.

I already feel the protocol does me good, I never was so happy with my bodycomp! I eat a lot, a huge breakfast, and 3 times / day. Never starve myself or never go hungry. All without practically no exercise!

(http://i45.tinypic.com/11hc3di.jpg)...(http://i49.tinypic.com/2ytnz7t.jpg)

(these pics are from a morning after terribly sleep because of stress.. and I did cheated with HWC last weeks because I was traveling.. so I am far from optimal though.I will do better pictures later)

I guess the cold and the sun does it (and the early go to bed, too). I do only minor CT, I do 3 minutes facedunks in the morning and icepack under my head before sleeping and 5 minutes in the river instead of showering every morning. Sleeping with windows wide open of course.

Yeah.. I have little time for internet now in summer but I will add here about my progress, I know I have messed up my hormones through all the stress last 13 years and late work. I will do some hormone-test soon too, and then I will post the results here. Then I will retest in spring, after a cold dark winter. I am so exited what it will do to my hormone panel. I know it will be good! Now, if everyone would only know, how terribly important our hormones are for our health, and how easy they get into unbalance through modern life!
This feels just so very right! Natural healing. No supplements, no expensive, exotic fruits.. almost all lokal food. I love this!

Here a picture of the lake by my brother in Stockholm (Sweden). I was there for a week and went for a bath every morning, early. Everyone was still sleeping. I always wake up 5-6 AM these days. It was so beautiful.. cannot tell how much I enjoyed this magic time alone at the lake..

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hgctv6.jpg)

Oh.. I ate some mackerel with worms too. I have to test what happens. Nothing so far. They have worms quite often and I need to know if it is safe for me to eat. I guess I need to "rethink" my minor fear for parasites...
I would be happy to hear if anyone else did the same, and what the results was?


Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: TylerDurden on August 11, 2012, 10:43:03 pm
Are you a member of the  Swedish minority that lives in Finland? I'm just asking because I thought you were German, by origin.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on August 11, 2012, 11:32:11 pm
Nice, nice, so which hormones did you optimize? :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 11, 2012, 11:59:16 pm
Are you a member of the  Swedish minority that lives in Finland? I'm just asking because I thought you were German, by origin.

Actually in practice yes, I went to Swedish school as a kid for 9 years. I did my high school in Finnish, and nurse school too..
I am Norwegian though, have Norwegian passport and that is my mother language. My both parents are Norwegian, moved to Finland before I got born.
No I have no German blood at all. Just lived in Hamburg for 10 years.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 12, 2012, 12:04:57 am
Nice, nice, so which hormones did you optimize? :)

All.  :)
I need to make the test before I know how it is with my hormones really, but what I do will make all better, balance them out and optimize.
It is quite expensive though as I need to pay all myself - I will test DHEA, testosterone, estrogen, progesterone I guess.
That will cost me about 200-300 € and that is much for me as I work just 2-3 times / week (on purpose).
I would like to test something else too as I am on it, like vitD, B12, cholesterol and cortisol. I know some parasites can make your B12 go down, that is why. I do eat lots of fish that could have parasites, raw. So I like to check if all is OK. Last I checked a year ago it was very good.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on August 12, 2012, 01:27:38 am
Sounds good, I also plan to test those hormones, maybe also cortisol and melatonin. Doesn't hurt to be sure, but I agree, it's pretty expensive.
I wouldn't bother with B12 and vit. D, since we're eating so much meat, organs, fish, eggs, it would be very impossible to be deficient.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on August 12, 2012, 04:16:51 am
     Hi Inger, I'm doing similar but I'm not fat adapted  :(. That didn't work for me. Not yet. I would like to do more like what you do but with some greens, onions and carrots (winter vegetables and apples) in the winter. Those keep in cold storage until spring here. How do you eat the fish heads. Jack makes bone broth right? Is that what you do or do you just slowly pick the meat off. Which heads are best. My fish monger freezes them for me. Also, what are the best types of fish. You mentioned mackerel, but other people have said that fish oils spoil and are bad for me quickly so I was getting low fat fish instead. I like all. What is your experience? Is it better to eat them frozen to preserve the oil. How fast does it go bad. I can also get whole mackerel which seems to keep better in its own flesh in the fridge? rather than filet? again your thoughts. It is yummy but expensive, so I want the most for my dollar.
    Did you say you eat a jar of coconut oil each day?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on August 12, 2012, 06:37:18 am
WOW that's awesome!

What do you do during those long dark nights?
How many hours can you sleep for?
Imagine if we could sleep for 16 hours and wake up feeling like you never needed to sleep again :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: ys on August 12, 2012, 11:07:26 am
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I follow the Kruse protocol now

let us know how it goes, i'm really curious.   not sure what to make out of this Kruse guy.  i get a feeling he is into making money.  and paleohacks making fun of him a lot.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 12, 2012, 02:05:38 pm
let us know how it goes, i'm really curious.   not sure what to make out of this Kruse guy.  i get a feeling he is into making money.  and paleohacks making fun of him a lot.

YS, that Paleohack makes fun of him (and the way they do it) tells me more about the people on Paleohacks... I do not read there at all anymore. Clear case for me.
That Jack is after money.
I have not spent one cent on him so far. That is all I can say. And I have gained lots and lots of information, highly valuable information for my practical life, that I have set into action and that have made a huge difference to me. All for free. That he offers some consultations and webinars for money, is absolutely correct to me. He gives so much for free, that I have not ever seen anyone give on the internet. He answers every single question you have - for free. He has his surgeon-practice and family too. It is beyond my imagination how he manages to do all this.
Do not ever believe any bad talk about anyone, before you deeply research for your self. Pay attention how people write and what.. you will soon know their real face.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 12, 2012, 02:49:12 pm

What do you do during those long dark nights?
How many hours can you sleep for?


I am reading.. writing.. contemplating.. talking. In candle lights.  :)
Do not know how long I can sleep, that we will see soon, in a few months when winter sets in for real up here!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 12, 2012, 03:04:37 pm
      How do you eat the fish heads. Jack makes bone broth right? Is that what you do or do you just slowly pick the meat off. Which heads are best. My fish monger freezes them for me. Also, what are the best types of fish. You mentioned mackerel, but other people have said that fish oils spoil and are bad for me quickly so I was getting low fat fish instead. I like all. What is your experience? Is it better to eat them frozen to preserve the oil. How fast does it go bad. I can also get whole mackerel which seems to keep better in its own flesh in the fridge? rather than fillet? again your thoughts. It is yummy but expensive, so I want the most for my dollar.
    Did you say you eat a jar of coconut oil each day?

Adora,
I make broth only from low fat fish head and skin and bones. Never from mackerel or salmon or sardines or herring or anything like that. Very bad idea as the fishfat get rancid fast!
Yes, Jack is a big fan of broth, fishbroth and bonebroth but never from chicken.
He says it heals the guts. I do very well with fishbroths I do myself. I do not do bonebroths.

I do fishhead-smoothie from fatty fishheads, raw. Just cut the head into pieces with a scissor and add water and blend until smooth in a mixer. Drink. Isn't too delicious but I hold my nose. You can add the guts too and liver and all. Very healthy.

I did a smoothie from prefrozen sardines yesterday but I think that was not good idea. I got the runs tonight/morning and cramping in my stomach. I guess the fatty fish might have gone a bit rancid? Cause they do - even if frozen. Tasted great to me but sardines do have strong and salty taste so it might have covered the rancidness? I ate the meat of the sardines pure and raw yesterday without anything and it tasted great to me? Strange. Or it was plain too much fat.. It is so long since I had such stomach distress, it almost never happends to me. Or it could have been the raw prefrozen scallops that I had too, yesterday? No idea. Anyways, I just ate a huge breakfast with elkmeat, sauerkraut and coconutoil and I am fine now.
I guess I will stay away from the sardines a while though.. It might be something added to prefrozen seafood, that I don't know of.. stay nothing on the package though. But who knows!

I would by whole mackerel always. Then you get the roe and fishmilk and liver and all! So good for you. I use to take the guts out the same day as I buy the fish and then they hold fine a few days in the fridge. I do smoothie from the heads and guts and from the file ts I do sashimi or tartar or anything delicious! I always eat them raw. Fatty fish I never cook, does not sit well in my stomach. But non fatty is fine gently cooked - for me at least.

No I do not eat a jar of coconutoil / day... ;) I just said, I probably could. I never get stomach distress from it. I usually eat a few tablespoons / day though. Some days only one, if I have no elk meat. Because that is what I use it on the most, my raw elkmeat burgers.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 12, 2012, 04:11:12 pm
Funny : http://jackkruse.com/recommended-products/ (http://jackkruse.com/recommended-products/)

 ;D
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 12, 2012, 04:41:55 pm
Funny : http://jackkruse.com/recommended-products/ (http://jackkruse.com/recommended-products/)

 ;D


Why is this funny in your opinion Francois?

IMO it is very okay to earn money. We need money to live. It is only important the moral behind. That is what counts. We all earn money in some way.
And when the money starts to count so much that we do damage to others and the earth and ourselves. Jack earn money helping others. That is what doctors do. It is something wrong with that, I want to ask?
Jaundice is very common which is sad.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 12, 2012, 04:58:01 pm
My point is not particularly to show that he makes some money, but the products he recommends have absolutely nothing to do with a raw paleolithic nutrition, even nothing to do with a traditional cooked neolithic diet : those are pure modern synthetic, highly processed junk. He even advertises a cooking book:  Jack’s Cookbook: Optimized Cooking  -d
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 12, 2012, 05:21:23 pm
Why are you ponting this out Francois? What value do it bring you...?!
We all know raw is better, that is why this is a raw paleo forum, period. It does not make the other excellent points Jack makes, without value. But these you do not see, do you?
Is it clear for all how a non-optimal brain functions? Just like that. It is sad. People need to see the things that brings them further!!! And there is no such person that have it ALL right. Not Jack Kruse, not Francois, not Inger.
We need to take that, what can we can learn from - but people tend to not even look.. the judge and see only the thing they think are wrong. And then they go on and do as they always did. How can there be any developement?

For me it is crystal clear that artificial ligts in the wrong time of the day are so not good for us. And keep it warm all time, when it is not really, like in winter. And to eat that what grows wild where we live, isn't that very logical and right? How many people (instinctos included) have not gotten problems from huge consumption of fruit year round? It is not only about raw! It is so much more!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on August 12, 2012, 05:27:25 pm
Inger, reading/writing in candle light doesn't sound so good for the eyes.
Light is light in the end, whether it's candle or bulb. You could argue that throughout our evolution there weren't any candles either, so the most optimal would be to completely avoid any artificial light.
I agree there's no point in bringing up the cookbook, it's more important to understand the principles he's talking about.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 12, 2012, 05:40:58 pm
Inger, reading/writing in candle light doesn't sound so good for the eyes.
Light is light in the end, whether it's candle or bulb.

I have got no problem from that whatsoever. Quite the opposite. I see better than my brother now and he used to see better than me.. we tested it a few weeks ago.
And yes, there is difference between a light bulb and candle lights. Especially the modern energy saving lamps are very bad for our health. Very unnatural light. You need to research this. I have a German book that is quite new that tells all about different lights. In the evening / night we should get no blue light, and artificial lights have much too much of these. That again disturbs our hormones. Candles or fireplaces are very different.
Just make a N1. experiment and you will feel the difference, how you feel with artificial lamps on in the evening, and how you feel with candles.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on August 12, 2012, 06:03:18 pm
You can certainly get warm lamps, that have the same temperature color as candles.
The normal bulbs are absolutely not good in the night, because the light is very close to daylight.
Great that your sight improves, because I've heard too many stories about messing up your eyes from candles and similar low lights.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: eveheart on August 13, 2012, 12:37:55 am
Light is light in the end, whether it's candle or bulb.

Source and "color" of light is only one side of the reasoning. Overall, I don't think the rationale is so much that certain kinds of light are better than others (this is not the main point, although this has some truth to it); rather that the rhythmic cycle of light and dark are important in regulating the body. This applies to the daily solar cycle and the monthly lunar cycle.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on August 13, 2012, 12:49:46 am
Yes, which is why I'm saying it doesn't matter much in the end if it's a candle or bulb, either way it's "artificial" light. But if candles work better for her,  no problem.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: eveheart on August 13, 2012, 01:09:09 am
Yes, which is why I'm saying it doesn't matter much in the end if it's a candle or bulb, either way it's "artificial" light.

Just as moonlight is much less intense than sunlight, candlelight is fractionally as intense as electric light. Each sends a completely different signal to the body.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on August 13, 2012, 02:46:04 am
     It is a bit harder to function with a candle than an electric light, which trains you to do less stuff after dark. You learn to limit your activities and blow the candle out earlier.
     A big key to reading by candle light is to have the light about 45degrees behind you and eye level. Also, light walls will reflect more light. I lived without electric, by choice on two occasions for months at a time. I love it. Candles take the "hectic" out of life.
     Inger, are you spending the money for bees wax candles? Paraffin is yucky to breath, but that is what I've been using. I made olive oil lamps, I guess I need to dig them out of the garage. I wanted to make tallow lamps, but I never did. I could send you the info if you like. Thanks for explaining the fish for me.  I will try soon.
      Would you explain the ice packs too. Why at night? Did you say you put them behind your head? I thought the forehead was the best spot for training. You've done much more reading. I remember reading that face emersion is pretty effective for training, but I rarely do it. It caused a quick headache. Did that happen to you too?  Does it dry your skin or cause any problems?
     I do value Jack's work. I thought until you posted a link  again that he had gone to pay only and I didn't realize so much was still freely available. I'm so glad you've tried more things. I will do more too. I think my hormones may improve before fat adaption. I can only decrease my carbs a little at a time, but I can eat more fish, do ice packs and candles. I am very encouraged. Thank you, Inger
   
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on August 13, 2012, 04:29:11 am
Just as moonlight is much less intense than sunlight, candlelight is fractionally as intense as electric light. Each sends a completely different signal to the body.
But it's still artificial and less optimal from complete darkness in the same way as cooked is compared to raw food.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on August 13, 2012, 10:18:24 am
hhmm...i read by the dim dim light of the sun fading through the forest trees now, as well as have by fire and candle light, i dont think there is any extra strain, especially when the days are short.  sounds like an old wives tale for people who over extend them selves, i.e. burn the midnight oil...natural light tends to relax, i doubt inger is lighting up a blaze, one candle is sufficient, as is the glow of a fire place
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 13, 2012, 02:04:22 pm
But it's still artificial and less optimal from complete darkness in the same way as cooked is compared to raw food.

The sun is also made from fire... fire is a natural light. There are naturally occuring fires all over the world.

If you still choose to believe candles are unhealthy light then easy, you could just stay in total darkness if you like in the evening. Very optimal. I choose not to because I feel fire is fine.. I feel very different from it than anything man made.. heat wise and light wise both - and I feel the candle light is so much better than any lamps!

Do you have any experiense to share, benefits of you avoiding also candles and staying in total darkness after sunset? I would be intrested to know about it!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 13, 2012, 02:11:46 pm
Adora thank you for the tips! I have not made own lamps yet, maybe I will! I am not using candles yet eather, it is still light enough up here..
I buy beewax candles only when I have the money, they are very expensive here. But I would love to use only them! Food comes first though...
The icepacks.. I guess they are fine everywhere. I just put them under my head because I like how it feels. I could try the forehead too! I think it is great to ice the carotid arteries too! They bring fresh blood to the brain and if you ice them it will cool the brain too. That is what I did yesterday. Felt nice!
Facedunks do not give me any headache ever. And no other problems. Just makes me feel very fresh starting the day!
You do great I think Adora, with what you do! I am doing quite small steps too! Nothing major, just tiny things but every day.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 13, 2012, 02:21:21 pm
OK I thought for record I will post these pics here too, in my journal (I posted them somewhere but I do not know where anymore..).
The first pic is me eating a ketogenic rawpaleodiet, and the second one following the Kruse protocol also Ketogenic but in addition the other things like CT, candles at night etc. I weigh the same in both pictures. I do not exercise. But still I think you can clearly see my body comp is improving.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2nlvms4.jpg)...(http://i45.tinypic.com/1j9nj9.jpg)

I like my skin better now too!
It is amazing for me how only following the circadian rhythms and doing cold baths can change me. Because these are very easy things to do! To start exercising a lot is much more time consuming and stressing..

My breasts have gotten smaller though.. and they was not big to begin with. But I will take that.
I rather have healthy small breasts than big swollen estrogen-collectors.. and maybe breast cancer one day...

Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on August 13, 2012, 05:12:00 pm
My point was that until we learned to make and control fire, there were no candles, no fire, no other light besides the moon in the night, no cooking, etc. I thought this is one of the arguments for raw paleo, that evolutionary we haven't fully adapted to cooked food yet. And artificial light from candles or wood or whatever, is just as new as cooked food. But if you say we have adapted to candles and even benefit from it and fire light, I have nothing against. I was just making this parallel..
I don't have any experience with reading by candles or avoiding artificial light in the dark.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 13, 2012, 06:45:20 pm
You make kind of funny paralells IMHO aLpt.... LOL
To each their own. It would be intresting to know how you live... ;-)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 13, 2012, 08:03:06 pm
Hi Inger,

aLptHW4k4y makes an absolutely logical point. Natural fires are not used for lighting and the sun’s nuclear fire isn’t visible at night, except in boreal summers.

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Candle use linked to cancer risk  (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8211543.stm)

Experts say rooms should be ventilated when burning candles

Candle-lit dinners may be romantic, but researchers are warning they could be harmful to health. South Carolina State University experts analysed the fumes released by burning candles in lab tests. They found paraffin wax candles gave off harmful fumes linked to lung cancer and asthma - but admitted it would take many years' use to risk health.

Why are you ponting this out Francois? What value do it bring you...?!
We all know raw is better, that is why this is a raw paleo forum, period. It does not make the other excellent points Jack makes, without value. But these you do not see, do you?

I didn’t check what this guy states, I do not care about all the various gurus advising this or that because they are somehow like doing astrophysics with Aristote's physics. There is a scientific revolution affecting our ways of thinking and since we have been noticed of it, we should take it into account. This guy doesn’t. 

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Is it clear for all how a non-optimal brain functions? Just like that. It is sad. People need to see the things that brings them further!!! And there is no such person that have it ALL right. Not Jack Kruse, not Francois, not Inger.

I see plenty of people with really suboptimal brain functions, certainly myself too ! We can’t have all right as long as we affirm things, but we can’t be wrong when we ask questions and acknowledge that we don’t know!  ;)

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For me it is crystal clear that artificial ligts in the wrong time of the day are so not good for us. And keep it warm all time, when it is not really, like in winter. And to eat that what grows wild where we live, isn't that very logical and right?

It depends where we live. Technology (use of fire and derivatives) has allowed the human kind to thrive everywhere on the planet; some guys have been living for months in submarines, some have even been in space and on the moon. Should they have eaten what grows there?  -\

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How many people (instinctos included) have not gotten problems from huge consumption of fruit year round? It is not only about raw! It is so much more!

Of course, there’s not only the problem of cooking and heating the food, but also that of the domestication of animals, their artificial selection as well as that of cereals and fruits - not to speak about the ways of living and other environmental factors. I don’t know anyone who has “gotten problems from a huge consumption of fruits year round”, but you probably know more people than me. By the way, in the “instincto” literature and seminars it has been repeatedly advised to eat a minimum of fruits, a maximum of veggies and to beware of the most artificially selected fruits - as far as plant foods are concerned.

Cheers,
François
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 13, 2012, 08:36:06 pm
Thank you Francois for your detailed aswer.  :)
Are you living without lights too, Francois? I sure would too... if it was more practical.. so far candles in the night have been a huge transition for me. I am not so far as you yet..
I think I need to not worry about candles hurting me.. I have windows and doors wide open always. And use them very little anyway. But thank you for the reminder!  :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 13, 2012, 08:45:39 pm
Oh.. Francois. Just one more thing, I forgot to say. Jack is not a guru.
He tells everyone to question him. And when someone do he is always polite and also changes his mind as time pass by. Like.. he is in developement. I like this. First he spoke nothing of raw.. now he is all of a sudden a huge fan.  :) He writes about viruses and bacterias, how incredible important they are for us, for our epigenetics.. they are the most importabnt tool! And they die by cooking, viruses too! He tells it is so important to eat raw too! That we possible got to be human from apes through a virus! That is crazy.
I cannot tell how exited I am about alI I got to know about through his sites!

Imagine how bad people are off these times when everyone fears bacterias and viruses so much.. uh!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: wodgina on August 13, 2012, 09:21:25 pm
Congratulations for looking better than 99% of the women in Australia...










Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on August 13, 2012, 10:16:45 pm
You make kind of funny paralells IMHO aLpt.... LOL
Ok at least funny is still better than bad.. :)
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Imagine how bad people are off these times when everyone fears bacterias and viruses so much.. uh!
Rightly so in my opinion, most people's immune systems are so detrained because we live in isolated, pasteurized, sterilized environments, so pathogens could easily cause harm. Plus when people get even the smallest infection they immediately go to antibiotics or similar medications, rather than letting the immune system handle it, which further increases vulnerability.
Raw food diet helps a bit as your immune system is more often challenged and you're much more used and resistant to bacteria and parasites.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 13, 2012, 10:34:21 pm
Ok then, Inger ! Good to know that some people can change their stance and adapt it to new knowledge.

Raw food diet helps a bit as your immune system is more often challenged and you're much more used and resistant to bacteria and parasites.
This is a real understatement! All the virus and bacterias we have experienced so far since the 60's are our friends : they are here to set a detox, which remains benign as long as the kind of abnormal molecules being expelled from the body are not simultaneously reintroduced by the meals.

The question remains open for parasites: some can still be dangerous and we should absolutely avoid meat from animals badly fed or living in a polluted environment. Malaria (especially falciparum) remains deadly, either.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on August 13, 2012, 10:53:07 pm
This is a real understatement! All the virus and bacterias we have experienced so far since the 60's are our friends : they are here to set a detox, which remains benign as long as the kind of abnormal molecules being expelled from the body are not simultaneously reintroduced by the meals.
I like to believe they are here to eat, prosper, reproduce, i.e. the goal of every living organism. Sometimes there's too much collateral damage (e.g. malaria..), sometimes there's just a small detox as you said, e.g. fever or similar. But usually it's in their interest to keep you (the host) alive and well function for as long as possible, their goal is to eat, stay alive (defend from the immune system) and spread to other hosts, not attack you and cause you harm. Only we humans can get evil and greedy if you ask me..
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 13, 2012, 11:01:06 pm
http://www.reocities.com/HotSprings/7627/ggvirus.html (http://www.reocities.com/HotSprings/7627/ggvirus.html)
 A NEW THEORETICAL MODEL OF VIRAL PHENOMENIA
 by Guy-Claude Burger
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on August 14, 2012, 12:35:23 am
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The viruses and bacteria involved in the genesis of most so-called infectious diseases are regarded as vectors and partners in genetically encoded symbiotic processes, so as to help the body clear molecules alien to organic function inside actual cells.

It's a weak theory, which may explain why it's not widely accepted. It should work in all cases, or say exactly in which it works or doesn't. According to the theory, the body obviously benefits from most viruses and bacteria, but how do they benefit from helping the body? Might be a pure coincidence, a side-effect that these bad molecules are cleared up in the effort of fighting the virus itself. I can not imagine that the body doesn't have the mechanisms to do this cleanup itself, but needs help from 3rd party organisms. I could accept that now we constantly face novel toxins, from cooking, industry, etc. so maybe this would make sense, but what about a million years ago? There were certainly viruses and bacteria back then as well how were they helping if we were already doing all natural, wild instincto?

Anyway, let's not hijack the thread, which is about hormone optimization :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on August 15, 2012, 04:13:40 am

aLptHW4k4y makes an absolutely logical point.

we use logic much like we use money, its kind of a mutual masterbation of the imagination.........
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on August 15, 2012, 05:22:37 am
Jessica I love that. ;)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 15, 2012, 03:29:14 pm
 
we use logic much like we use money, its kind of a mutual masterbation of the imagination.........
???
Yeah, I guess I should stop spending time writing stupid, meaningless logical nonsense on this forum and concentrate instead on optimizing my hormones. After all, it’s probably because they don’t optimize their hormones that so many animal species disappear or are on the verge of extinction on this planet.  ;)

Also I should seriously reconsider the strong Pasteur’s and current medical theories about bacteria and viruses as being, contrary to what I thought, the ultimate and final truth. Of course, non-really-living things such as viruses must think “how do they benefit from helping the body”. LOL!  ;D

Have a good day, folks! 
François
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on August 16, 2012, 10:06:06 am
Iguana I didn't get that from Jessica.
For the record, I meant it is good to be in our body's authentic experience. That's the gold nugget, better than somebody else's logic  from some other time and place. Imagination is a fantastic way to look at it all too. It keeps us in perspective and out of dogmatic/fixed thinking.
   The money reference is also perspective, because we are caught up in the importance of an imaginary, or at least arbitrary concept.
   Masturbation because we pleasure ourselves with the idea that they are fixed and dependable
     
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 17, 2012, 10:00:19 pm
Sorry, being a speaker of a foreign mother language, I sometimes fail to grab English subtleties.
(In this case I still have trouble understanding clearly what Jessica and you mean  -\)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Suiren on August 18, 2012, 12:44:36 am
Sorry, being a speaker of a foreign mother language, I sometimes fail to grab English subtleties.
(In this case I still have trouble understanding clearly what Jessica and you mean  -\)

Same here  :(  But I am curious to know now  :D

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It is a bit harder to function with a candle than an electric light, which trains you to do less stuff after dark. You learn to limit your activities and blow the candle out earlier.
     A big key to reading by candle light is to have the light about 45degrees behind you and eye level. Also, light walls will reflect more light. I lived without electric, by choice on two occasions for months at a time. I love it. Candles take the "hectic" out of life.
That is a bummer, because I am most active after dark. That is when my son sleeps and I get to sew or knit, for which I need some artificial light.
I don't notice any negative effects from it though...or maybe I am just oblivious to it? ^^
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on August 19, 2012, 02:36:49 am
What about an oil lamp with a wide wick. That would be fire and put out decient light. Spend a night with candles and see how different you feel. Do it again as the night grows long and you have more exposure to artificial. I notice it immediately. If you are task focused it is pure fusteration. I've been up packing and using artificial light. I have an irritation with it. I can smile and be happy but when the light goes off there is a relief. I also, have a harder time shutting artificial light off to go to bed like an over tired infant, I fight it. Candle light soothes me into sleep. This is all subtle. I'm just emphasizing to make the point.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 19, 2012, 03:13:05 pm
Same here  :(  But I am curious to know now  :D
That is a bummer, because I am most active after dark. That is when my son sleeps and I get to sew or knit, for which I need some artificial light.
I don't notice any negative effects from it though...or maybe I am just oblivious to it? ^^

Suiren, what I read i the forums, you do have a lot of health-complications still?
Often we do not get immediate "pain" from things we do wrong. It goes very slowly in the wrong direction and destroys or hormone-panels and glands gradually. It is not only food that matters. Light cycles matters as much and also seasonal temperatures. Nature is as it is for a reason... Or why are we aiming to eat our food in as a natural state as possible after all?

Adora, oil lamps are a very nice option! I have not used any candles still, and I guess I need them in one month maybe, but then I will do oil-lamps! They do not smoke the same way eather! Cool.

I have not much time for internet, it is summer still.
I was visiting my doc and Thursday I will get blood drawn for a lots of different things.
I will measure;
Testosterone
Progesterone
Estradiol
DHEA
Vit D
Vit B12 (because of parasites - if it less the I know I might have an issue, it was very good last year)
Cholesterol
CRP
and the regular bloodwork they always do.

This will all be scientific because I will do the same labs in spring. No guessing here, I want to test that is the only way to really know how something is working.
I wish more members would do this and post their results (many thanks to Lex and Sabertooth any other member who go this path too), it could be a very scientific forum then and so much countable! It will cost a little, but I think it is so much worth it!


Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 19, 2012, 03:19:36 pm
Congratulations for looking better than 99% of the women in Australia...

Thanks Wodgina. :-* I still have lots of improvement to do. But yes, people look quite sick these days here when you look around, too. It is sad. I guess the last 20 years have done something bad to people. Where are the manly men, the healthy ones, I just do not see them. I just do not.  -[
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 19, 2012, 03:22:33 pm
???
Yeah, I guess I should stop spending time writing stupid, meaningless logical nonsense on this forum and concentrate instead on optimizing my hormones.


Yes...!!! Francois, that is a great idea...! Welcome to the club!   :-*
Would you do the labs too? That would be so exiting to compare our results in spring!!! Can you do cold thermogenesis where you live, like go swim in the ocean or stuff?  :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 19, 2012, 04:42:54 pm
Today morning, before taking my morning-dip in the river;

(http://i45.tinypic.com/6tjonp.jpg)

With webcam wich is not the best quality, so you cannot see all my wrinkles.. lol
But I like how my skin is starting to get with the protocol... :) (sorry I did not made my hair yet)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: wodgina on August 19, 2012, 07:05:02 pm
I think your photos show that diet it 90% of the puzzle.

Theres plenty of manly men around and beautiful women but most are hidden because of crap food, medication, over work, not enough sun, lies and feminism, not lifting heavy weights, mortgages, shaving, Iphones, horrible chlorine water, TV.

Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 20, 2012, 04:12:57 am
Yes...!!! Francois, that is a great idea...! Welcome to the club!   :-*
Would you do the labs too? That would be so exiting to compare our results in spring!!! Can you do cold thermogenesis where you live, like go swim in the ocean or stuff?  :)

I guess perhaps I shouldn’t have interfered in your journal, but if I did it’s because I was heckled by the title “Optimizing my hormones”. As a Paleolithic hominid I don’t know what hormones are and I guess even the most knowledgeable modern human doesn’t know everything about them and their complex interactions with the body metabolism. AFAIK, when diet and living conditions are correct, hormones (and everything else) are automatically and perfectly regulated by something called “homeostasis”, so that we don’t have to care about optimizing them.

We can’t optimize the nature: it’s a fundamental mistake of modern humans to believe they can improve the nature, and it’s precisely this way of thinking which is leading civilization to a disaster.

No, sorry, I’m not interested in doing the labs test because I got enough other things to do and I prefer spending my money for something else and my free time for cycling, resting or going to the ocean for a swim and perhaps windsurfing again if I find the time.

I don’t know neither what cold thermogenesis exactly is, but anyway the Atlantic near my place is now at 22 – 23° C and still at about 20° C till November, so not really cold.

I have a 4 x 2 m and 1 m deep basin fed from my spring, which barely reaches 18° C in summer and was fine for a rather cold bath, but the farmers have recently drained the plateau behind to divert the spring waters to their corn fields' irrigation pond the other side, so now my spring doesn’t flow much anymore. Thus, this year as well as last I left the basin the whole year for the ducks and geese as it would take too long to fill it again after cleaning.

Damned agriculture!   >D



 
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Wattlebird on August 20, 2012, 05:19:34 am
AFAIK, when diet and living conditions are correct, hormones (and everything else) are automatically and perfectly regulated by something called “homeostasis”, so that we don’t have to care about optimizing them.

We can’t optimize the nature: it’s a fundamental mistake of modern humans to believe they can improve the nature, and it’s precisely this way of thinking which is leading civilization to a disaster.


Hi Inger,
I think many of us work so hard towards an 'optimal' or 'perfect' or 'super health' state. In the process, we do all we can to follow a particular protocol, or line of thought.
In itself, probably an inevitable result of trying to be healthy.
But on the other side of the scale, we do not balance out this worry or concern (that is, that we are 'not-optimal') that we have, by working towards letting go of the need to know, that which is not so easy to know in the first place. 
Its not such an easy thing to establish what actually is 'optimal' for a person in the first place, as the body takes care of processes in ways that we can mostly just theorise about.
Kind wishes, J  :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 20, 2012, 12:19:46 pm
OMG.
I don't know anymore. I feel so confused and so very misunderstood. Makes me want to stay away from this forum too.
It is like, people do not read and see what I am saying..?! Am I so bad in explaining myself?

Francois, you write;
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AFAIK, when diet and living conditions are correct, hormones (and everything else) are automatically and perfectly regulated by something called “homeostasis”, so that we don’t have to care about optimizing them.

We can’t optimize the nature: it’s a fundamental mistake of modern humans to believe they can improve the nature, and it’s precisely this way of thinking which is leading civilization to a disaster.

And that is so right!!! That is exactly what I am doing!!! Modern human invented the electricity, the artificial light and heat year around.. that is exactly what are destroying our hormones! An agriculture, cultivated fruits, grains..!!! That is exactly why I do not eat NOTHING from agri anymore, seldom even vegetables and domesticated fruit. I believe in wild foods. What can be closer to nature than this...?
Did you read anything of what I was writing Francois?
That the early hominids did not know about hormones.. what do we know? And what role would it play after all? They had not messed up hormones like we modern humans have! Because they lived optimal already! Can you see me Francois?

Wattlebird, you too have not got it at all what this path is about! You write;
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I think many of us work so hard towards an 'optimal' or 'perfect' or 'super health' state. In the process, we do all we can to follow a particular protocol, or line of thought.
In itself, probably an inevitable result of trying to be healthy.
But on the other side of the scale, we do not balance out this worry or concern (that is, that we are 'not-optimal') that we have, by working towards letting go of the need to know, that which is not so easy to know in the first place.
Its not such an easy thing to establish what actually is 'optimal' for a person in the first place, as the body takes care of processes in ways that we can mostly just theorise about.

But that is exactly what I am doing, letting go.. letting go off the unnatural way of living! Learning to follow the rhythms of nature, the seasons.. it is nothing about "trying to be healthy"!!!! It is letting the body heal itself, by letting go of modern mans "clever inventions" that are actually harming us big time when not used very carefully. I am not speaking of using nothing modern anymore, I still have a fridge, a house, clothes... I hope you see what i want to say.

And I am not going back to be an ape eather. That is why I do not believe in fruit eating all the time..
I believe we need seafood the most for optimal brainfunction as humans. If you eat ape-food.. where are the brain-nutrients? It might be fine if you want to be as clever as an ape..  -X

God, I got sad coming to read here this morning.
Like no one understands really. Makes me wonder why I spend my time in this forum at all... -[

Sorry for this rant. I just feel sad this morning, it is sad enough to look at my sister and her family that are for visit here these days. I am not going into detail.. but it makes me want to scream loud.. it makes me want to run.. far.
People suffer, and suffer. But, are they willing to give up any of their "comfort" to reach heaven? No. There are so very few who are willing to step outside of their comfort-zone.. to develop, to learn something new. No need to, as they already know everything for sure. -[


Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on August 20, 2012, 12:41:13 pm
I understand what you are saying Inger - you are an inspiration for us all to have a more invigorating, natural lifestyle! Please keep visiting and writing on this forum as we really enjoy reading what you  have to say - U R COOL :)

When I was raw vegan I often went swimming in the cold ocean at night or early in the morning and it was a great feeling, but it was too easy to be cold afterwards. Hopefully now the RPD fat will mean I can do this and be warm afterwards.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 20, 2012, 12:45:21 pm
Alive... thank you!  :-*
I love it about the ocean...  :)
And yes, with RAF you will certainly be warmer (I was cold all the time too when eating lots of fruit..)! And if a little cold, do not fear cold! Embrace it. It is natural, and does something really good to our bodies! You will get warm again soon enough. :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Wattlebird on August 20, 2012, 01:44:41 pm
Wattlebird, you too have not got it at all what this path is about! You write;
But that is exactly what I am doing, letting go.. letting go off the unnatural way of living! Learning to follow the rhythms of nature, the seasons.. it is nothing about "trying to be healthy"!!!! It is letting the body heal itself, by letting go of modern mans "clever inventions" that are actually harming us big time when not used very carefully. I am not speaking of using nothing modern anymore, I still have a fridge, a house, clothes... I hope you see what i want to say.

Hi Inger
sorry if I have caused distress, not my intention. My intention was contrary.
Rather, I was trying to point out that sometimes we can also let go of the idea that we can definitively know the answer to what optimal is.
I guess we follow the path that seems most appropriate, but whether that will lead to the 'optimal' that corresponds to what we think of the word, or even someone else may think it means, may not coincide at all with what the body wishes to do at a particular time (for its own not so easy to decode reasons of balance).
In other words what we often take to be balance (what we believe the word means), may be quite different from what the body does as part of its balancing processes.
If I have misunderstood your writing, my mistake,please ignore.  :)
Kind wishes, J
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on August 20, 2012, 01:58:50 pm
OK Inger you got it,
the sea is just 5 minutes walk from my house so I will go swimming at dawn tomorrow and feel hot afterwards!
...setting my smart phone alarm now to remind me >D
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 20, 2012, 03:14:31 pm
Sorry too if my post made you sad, Inger. You shouldn’t be upset by other people’s words, they are only words and words often lead to misunderstandings. BTW, I don’t think apes - and especially bonobos - are less clever than humans : it’s just that they can’t speak and transmit complex knowledge from generation to generation as we do, particularly since we have invented writing.

I plan to drive to the Atlantic coast today, it’s 150 km away from here, so I don’t want to spend too much time writing.

Have a good day,
François 
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on August 20, 2012, 09:44:15 pm
OMG.
I don't know anymore. I feel so confused and so very misunderstood. Makes me want to stay away from this forum too.
It is like, people do not read and see what I am saying..?! Am I so bad in explaining myself?

I agree that you are misunderstood.

But I understand you and appreciate your posts.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on August 21, 2012, 04:18:36 am
Inger You are helping me tons. I'm learning and inspired. I'm sending you cyber hugs and giving you wet kisses allover your face until you wipe your face and giggle. Let it go. Let it all go. There are infinite things to be upset about, they are distractions. The healing comes from finding our way back from there with grace. You do this for you. Your progress helps many, and nothing else matters. 
    Now I want to optimize my hormones.  If you still are and are willing to help, I have questions.
    I had big trouble with eating the whole mackerel. I enjoyed the eyes, but I couldn't find any brain, just bone. The flesh in the jaw was bitter. I could have eaten it, but is that good. Can I benefit from eating it? I cut open the belly and it got worse. I couldn't make out which were organs. They were all long healthy looking things, but the taste was pretty unpleasant. You warned, but I thought, "I'm a raw paleo girl and I like fish, I'll be fine". Then there was this dried blood or something dark along the back. What's that. Do I eat it? Is there anything I don't eat. I heard we aren't supposed to eat land animal gall bladder from AV's book. Do fish have a gall bladder. Could you walk through the steps to eating a whole mackerel, or maybe make one of your wonderful videos? I'm intimidated. I'm so mad about the whole thing I have to try again. ha! Please make all of the suggestions you can think of. I have a vita-mixer and a food processor. You put it in there and drink as fast as you can, right? Maybe throw a lemon wedge in my mouth after to prevent  -v
   I cold showered my head today. The shower isn't cold like in winter, but I held my head under a long time and it feels like it improved circulation. My eyes feel more open too, which is saying a lot because I have been up late multiple nights with artificial lighting - not optimal, but I can improve that starting tonight. I'm going to do it more and try the cold packs too. Thanks for the suggestion.
    You said your breasts were a little smaller. Brest tissue may be the most dynamic tissue in the body. They function by being responsive to hormones. They may change, wax and wane with the moon, and your hormone cycles they may get bigger and smaller again as you optimize
love, love, love
Adora
     
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Suiren on August 21, 2012, 05:35:16 am
What about an oil lamp with a wide wick. That would be fire and put out decient light. Spend a night with candles and see how different you feel. Do it again as the night grows long and you have more exposure to artificial. I notice it immediately. If you are task focused it is pure fusteration. I've been up packing and using artificial light. I have an irritation with it. I can smile and be happy but when the light goes off there is a relief. I also, have a harder time shutting artificial light off to go to bed like an over tired infant, I fight it. Candle light soothes me into sleep. This is all subtle. I'm just emphasizing to make the point.

So an oil candle would not have any negative effects? I was thinking that to be completely natural we would probably have to sit in the dark not to confuse our bodies?  ;D I hope not. But since it was pointed out that fire = natural light, the body may not care.

Suiren, what I read i the forums, you do have a lot of health-complications still?
Often we do not get immediate "pain" from things we do wrong. It goes very slowly in the wrong direction and destroys or hormone-panels and glands gradually. It is not only food that matters. Light cycles matters as much and also seasonal temperatures. Nature is as it is for a reason... Or why are we aiming to eat our food in as a natural state as possible after all?

Well, it depends what you consider "a lot"?  :D
1. My Hashimoto's Thyroiditis is gone,
2. my Prolactin levels are normal and my hair is not falling out so I assume my pituitary tumor is likely gone. Otherwise that would not be possible.
3. And I have no cancerous cells anymore, and not even HPV...recent tests showed it cleared.

What I do want to tackle now is my low weight. I would like to gain, I only weight 49kg at 165cm at the moment. I assume my former bad diet made it harder for my body to absorb calories. Aside from that I am pretty good (at least as far as I know, I don't like going to see doctors, so I have not been lately), all my other minor problems are gone too.

Oh and thanks for explaining! I will keep an eye on this thread to see what you are documenting! :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on August 21, 2012, 09:13:21 am
Fascinating stuff, this makes a lot of sense - the candle and lamp put out a very yellow light, while our circadian rhythms are connected to special retina cells that respond to blue light only. Yellow light contains red and green spectrum, and no blue, so our rhythms are not effected.

So we could also use an incandescent light turned down on a dimmer or a yellow incandescent bulb to get the same effect - great stuff.

This is also why using incandescent lights at night is much better than compact florescent.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on August 21, 2012, 09:22:18 am
Fascinating stuff, this makes a lot of sense - the candle and lamp put out a very yellow light, while our circadian rhythms are connected to special retina cells that respond to blue light only. Yellow light contains red and green spectrum, and no blue, so our rhythms are not effected.

So we could also use an incandescent light turned down on a dimmer or a yellow incandescent bulb to get the same effect - great stuff.

This is also why using incandescent lights at night is much better than compact florescent.


I only keep incandescent and incandescent like CFL in my home.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Suiren on August 21, 2012, 05:04:48 pm
Fascinating stuff, this makes a lot of sense - the candle and lamp put out a very yellow light, while our circadian rhythms are connected to special retina cells that respond to blue light only. Yellow light contains red and green spectrum, and no blue, so our rhythms are not effected.

So we could also use an incandescent light turned down on a dimmer or a yellow incandescent bulb to get the same effect - great stuff.

This is also why using incandescent lights at night is much better than compact florescent.

Well, I never have bright lights on after dark, unless I need to see something very clearly for a minute. All lights are dim and yellowish. But I thought electric light is not ideal even if yellowish?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Qodesh on August 22, 2012, 04:47:05 am
Inger,
You are a inspiration for me as well. I look for your posts everywhere. From these many forums to youtube videos.
Please keep on doing what you're doing, helping us. You're always so kind, authentic and never attack anyone. Sweet, simple and good.
I'm making high meat because of what you've shared, and eating other raw meat also. I have two sardines awaiting my first fish smoothie.

Thank you,
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 22, 2012, 02:12:34 pm
Inger You are helping me tons. I'm learning and inspired. I'm sending you cyber hugs and giving you wet kisses allover your face until you wipe your face and giggle.

Adora.. you are too sweet... lol

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    Now I want to optimize my hormones.  If you still are and are willing to help, I have questions.

Oh yes, I always want to help! If I can. Look I am at the beginning of this journey myself so I know just so little! I do try to educate myself as much as I have time to! And test things out for sure.. I will report how things go.

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    I had big trouble with eating the whole mackerel. I enjoyed the eyes, but I couldn't find any brain, just bone. The flesh in the jaw was bitter. I could have eaten it, but is that good. Can I benefit from eating it? I cut open the belly and it got worse. I couldn't make out which were organs. They were all long healthy looking things, but the taste was pretty unpleasant. You warned, but I thought, "I'm a raw paleo girl and I like fish, I'll be fine". Then there was this dried blood or something dark along the back. What's that. Do I eat it? Is there anything I don't eat. I heard we aren't supposed to eat land animal gall bladder from AV's book. Do fish have a gall bladder. Could you walk through the steps to eating a whole mackerel, or maybe make one of your wonderful videos?

Yeah. It will taste not so good Adora, or at least not to me, yet. Maybe one day I will enjoy it, when my body get used to it and start to crave it because it realizes it is powerfood? LOL
That is why I do it in the blender. Easy and fast. I enjoy the good tasting parts separately. The eyes tastes good to me. The meat too.. the brain is too small I never bothered to try to look for it? I just put the whole head in the blender. Much less yucky. You can eat ALL on the fish. Nothing dangerous there.
But be aware, there is a risk for parasites for sure. Always with raw fish. Especially when eating the whole thing. But I am testing this out myself now. I have no kids, no man / boyfriend, nothing that holds me too close to this earth.. so it would not be a too big loss if I disappeared.. lol. I need to know, sure I am a little scared too at times but I do it still. I start to get used to do things I am scared of. I try to figure it out in my mind very well before, I calculate the risks and the usefulness very well before though. But everyone have to do this themselves. Weigh out the risks and benefits. I do have had some very minor abdominal discomfort last weeks on and off we will see where this goes.. ;) but no worms at sight yet (I always check) and feeling quite great though!

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I'm intimidated. I'm so mad about the whole thing I have to try again. ha! Please make all of the suggestions you can think of. I have a vita-mixer and a food processor. You put it in there and drink as fast as you can, right? Maybe throw a lemon wedge in my mouth after to prevent  -v

Yes, just make the smoothie pure and drink it with your nose closed. That is how I do it. Sometimes I "chew" a little on it to get some saliva mixed in. Might be good for the digestion, IDK.
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   I cold showered my head today. The shower isn't cold like in winter, but I held my head under a long time and it feels like it improved circulation. My eyes feel more open too, which is saying a lot because I have been up late multiple nights with artificial lighting - not optimal, but I can improve that starting tonight. I'm going to do it more and try the cold packs too.

Great Adora! Babysteps are good! That is what I do too! When I do too much I get too much reaction from detox I cannot bear that much right now.. still trying to overcome my divorce it hit me hard. I just need not too much stress these days as my heart is still bleeding. So I take it easy and babysteps too. If too much reaction I just step back a bit. With the algae too, I guess they are real good detoxers (lots of iodine..) and I can feel when I eat too much... then I cut back.

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    You said your breasts were a little smaller. Brest tissue may be the most dynamic tissue in the body. They function by being responsive to hormones. They may change, wax and wane with the moon, and your hormone cycles they may get bigger and smaller again as you optimize

OK, thank you for this enlightenment! :)
Guess what, talking about breasts.. Last times when I have tanned my breasts (I do it regularly, very good for hormones) I felt such a weird feeling in my nipples!!!! That was crazy! Minor but strong at the same time! Like they were getting stimulates somehow! And it was only the sun touching them. Amazing. :)

 :-*
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 22, 2012, 02:27:32 pm
Fascinating stuff, this makes a lot of sense - the candle and lamp put out a very yellow light, while our circadian rhythms are connected to special retina cells that respond to blue light only. Yellow light contains red and green spectrum, and no blue, so our rhythms are not effected.

So we could also use an incandescent light turned down on a dimmer or a yellow incandescent bulb to get the same effect - great stuff.

This is also why using incandescent lights at night is much better than compact florescent.


Alive,
you got it, totally.  :)

@ Suiren,
at night we need to avoid blue lights at all costs, see above. That is how nature plays too.
At daytime we NEED blue light! That is why yellow lamps are not good at all daytime! You need to see it in concept, the whole picture. It should be different lights at different times, like in nature. At daytime it is very good to try to get so much sun or natural light as one can get! Do not stay inside in the dark if you can avoid it! Embrace the sun...! It does you so very good! :)

And Suiren, why do you worry about your weight, if you feel very healthy otherwise...?!
I weighed 46 kg at my lowest (which was a bit too low) and now I weigh maybe 55 kg (166 cm). I always wanted to be around 50 kg, but I do not weigh anymore. It is not important. Important is how you feel!
I am so not focused on my weight anymore, and you can let it go too. :)

@ Qodesh.. and GS too
you just made my day. Thank you.  :-*
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Suiren on August 22, 2012, 08:14:08 pm
@ Suiren,
at night we need to avoid blue lights at all costs, see above. That is how nature plays too.
At daytime we NEED blue light! That is why yellow lamps are not good at all daytime! You need to see it in concept, the whole picture. It should be different lights at different times, like in nature. At daytime it is very good to try to get so much sun or natural light as one can get! Do not stay inside in the dark if you can avoid it! Embrace the sun...! It does you so very good! :)
Thank you for explaining, that is what I was guessing and makes sense! We have big open windows and a balcony, plus we are outside often, so getting enough day light is easy for us. I also don't like the blinds closed.
As far as the sun goes, I am always a bit unsure. I know it has benefits, but it can also cause problems according to many studies (breaking down of collagen, premature aging in general). I am not too worried about skin cancer since I think that is somewhat a myth, but the other things seem confirmed when I look at people. My mom does not tan often, but the skin on her body that has seen a lot of sun throughout life, looks 80% older than the rest! Fully covered parts almost look like she is in her 20s. My younger sister who spends a moderate amount of time in the sun, is starting to show the same blotchy, speckled skin tone, broken blood vessels, leathery etc. Or...my forearm skin is a lot different on top than compared to the bottom...hm.
So I am not sure whether it is something they are doing in combination with the sun that leads to this, or if sun caused it.  -\

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And Suiren, why do you worry about your weight, if you feel very healthy otherwise...?!
I weighed 46 kg at my lowest (which was a bit too low) and now I weigh maybe 55 kg (166 cm). I always wanted to be around 50 kg, but I do not weigh anymore. It is not important. Important is how you feel!
I am so not focused on my weight anymore, and you can let it go too. :)
Since my teens I have gotten bad remarks about my weight/ looks. I have always had trouble gaining weight, so to me that seems odd. I should at least be able to with much effort...
Doctors say different things, one said I need to be 65kg, another said I am normal considering my tiny bones (ring size 3 1/2, 45 like a child), but the people still comment on it a lot, sometimes they are very harsh, sometimes mean remarks are hidden in jokes or anti compliments... :(
Kinda sucks and it can be stressul. I ignore it and deal with it okay, but it is still annoying.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 22, 2012, 09:08:12 pm
We live in a society of mostly overweight and obese people, so if we are normal (even according to WHO's BMI standards  (http://apps.who.int/bmi/index.jsp?introPage=intro_3.html) ), they stupidly think we are too thin.

Your BMI is 18, so only very slightly underweight by BMI standards, but it may be your ideal weight depending on your bones' structure.

Exposing our skin for long periods in plain summer sun between about 11 am to 5 pm does no good, especially if we had no sun exposure during a whole winter. It's better to remain somewhat tanned the whole year round and stay in partly shaded places under some trees in the middle of the day, as our ancestors probably did when the planet was not deforested as it is nowadays.  That's instinctive anyway.

Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Suiren on August 22, 2012, 09:42:23 pm
We live in a society of mostly overweight and obese people, so if we are normal (even according to WHO's BMI standards  (http://apps.who.int/bmi/index.jsp?introPage=intro_3.html) ), they stupidly think we are too thin.

Your BMI is 18, so only very slightly underweight by BMI standards, but it may be your ideal weight depending on your bones' structure.

Ahh, yeah the BMI...I call it Bullshit Mass Index  ;D I think it is probably very inaccurate since it neither takes bone structure, nor muscle weight into account.
You are right about society, and it is hard looking different sometimes, because you will not be accepted easily.
I think my weight probably IS somewhat normal..lower average maybe, I don't have any bones showing and I have very chunky parts like hips etc., I just feel even a bit more would be my ideal.
If people would stop commenting after I gain weight I don't know though...maybe I would have to be heavy for that to happen...then everyone will say "more to love", or "real women have 'curves'"... -\

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Exposing our skin for long periods in plain summer sun between about 11 am to 5 pm does no good, especially if we had no sun exposure during a whole winter. It's better to remain somewhat tanned the whole year round and stay in partly shaded places under some trees in the middle of the day, as our ancestors probably did when the planet was not deforested as it is nowadays.  That's instinctive anyway.
That's good, because that is how I keep it most of the time. I stay in the shade if it is too hot and try to avoid being in the mid day sun for too long.

I was thinking about the same thing, with the forests, and how our ancestors must have used them for protection of all sorts. What is nice about a forest - there is always enough light, but not much sun peeking through, and it is much cooler in summer. In winter more sun gets through due to the trees having no leafs...:)
We have forests by our apartment and go there for walks btw.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 22, 2012, 11:02:48 pm
Yeah, but even according to that Bullshit-M-I, your weight is about all right... thus taking into account your bone structure, it is the absolute perfection  :D So if someone has a harsh comment, you can reply "sorry to tell you, but you seem to be jealous of my perfect proportions since you're obese and extremely ugly!"   :)

Inger, what about improving this title into "Let me hormones self-optimize" ?  ;)  It's your choice anyway, just a suggestion.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on August 22, 2012, 11:17:46 pm
Inger, what about improving this title into "Let me hormones self-optimize" ?  ;)  It's your choice anyway, just a suggestion.

Somehow that doesn't sound right in English from my point of view.  It may sound sexy from a French point of view.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on August 22, 2012, 11:41:04 pm
Inger I will try whole mackerel again tonight. Thanks for talking me through it. I'll inspect the organ's diligently for signs of parasites/disease before I eat them. Did you ever find worms is an otherwise healthy ocean fish with nice eyes and scales? Some fish parasites can't live in us so, maybe their destruction mildly symptomatic.
     I've been eating lots of seaweed and it causes a little gas/bloating. Soaking it for days helps. I drink the water from the soaks. At first it was unpleasant, but now I love it. I hope my intestines will adapt soon, because I love the taste of them all.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on August 22, 2012, 11:51:39 pm
Suiren I completely agree with Iguana. The're jealous and you should put them in their place. Some people worry about anybody whose not plump, so it could be that.
     I consider myself fat and I'm not even at the top of the BMI, but I was 25-30lbs lighter for most of my life. I feel fat b/c being thin felt better, limber, and light. When I go down people say I'm to thin too, frustrating because now it is an effort to loose and keep off. Do what feels right to you.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 23, 2012, 12:30:08 am
Somehow that doesn't sound right in English from my point of view.  It may sound sexy from a French point of view.
Ok, any better suggestion? Leave it as is?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on August 23, 2012, 02:05:57 am
Ok, any better suggestion? Leave it as is?

I would probably let the native english speakers give their opinions.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Ferocious on August 23, 2012, 05:06:29 am
Ok, any better suggestion? Leave it as is?
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. The title is correct as it is
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Suiren on August 23, 2012, 05:13:34 am
My only idea would be to change the title into "the effect of X on hormones" in case everyone feels like this one does not describe it well?

Yeah, but even according to that Bullshit-M-I, your weight is about all right... thus taking into account your bone structure, it is the absolute perfection  :D So if someone has a harsh comment, you can reply "sorry to tell you, but you seem to be jealous of my perfect proportions since you're obese and extremely ugly!"   :)

Haha, I might end up dead if I do that  :P
It is funny how people tend to get so offended though when someones comments about their heavy weight, yet they feel it is right to say the most cruel things to someone who is thin.  -\

Adora
You don't look heavy!  :o Not sure if people are jealous or just try to find a weakness and say something mean to feel better about themselves. I get criticism about a lot of things and have always shunned regular jobs because of it.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: miriam on August 23, 2012, 05:30:43 pm
Hi Inger

I’ve been eating raw meat for 2 years and I remember you mention Dr Jack Kruse in February  so I follow the link and after reading his post for a few days I started his protocol in March.

I’m LR so losing weight is not easy I’ve a leaky gut and constipation it was chronic, so I though I’ll have a go even though the cold bath didn’t appeal to me and I never thought I will be able to put ice on my body. However now after 6 month I can tolerate for 40 minutes.   

At the beginning when I did the face dunk I did get a headache then I started eating fish and the headache went then I realize I needed fish as omega 3.

My constipation is getting better and I think I’m healing my gut which is great and I’ve no more craving I can eat 2 meals a day without any problem before even eating raw meat and fat I was hungry after a few hours.

I can eat onions, garlic, my own cider vinegar, coconut oil.

I’m still long way to go but my ultimate goal is to heal my hormones. I’m having some test done this week like saliva cortisol.   

So thanks Inger for mentioning Dr Kruse I’m always open to new ideas trying to heal my body of all the abuse which I did unknowingly did.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: cherimoya_kid on August 24, 2012, 12:18:46 pm

     I've been eating lots of seaweed and it causes a little gas/bloating. Soaking it for days helps. I drink the water from the soaks. At first it was unpleasant, but now I love it. I hope my intestines will adapt soon, because I love the taste of them all.

Some seaweeds just don't work well raw.  I wouldn't force it.  Nori/laver and dulse are the most common ones that are easy to digest raw.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 28, 2012, 07:38:30 pm
Inger I will try whole mackerel again tonight. Thanks for talking me through it. I'll inspect the organ's diligently for signs of parasites/disease before I eat them. Did you ever find worms is an otherwise healthy ocean fish with nice eyes and scales? Some fish parasites can't live in us so, maybe their destruction mildly symptomatic.
     I've been eating lots of seaweed and it causes a little gas/bloating. Soaking it for days helps. I drink the water from the soaks. At first it was unpleasant, but now I love it. I hope my intestines will adapt soon, because I love the taste of them all.

Adora, the infected fish looked healthy at the outside. I have been eating many of the Anisakiasis-infected mackerels already. Last times they were all infected to some degree. But I do leave the intestines and such. I do the head and the meat and the skin. And maybe the liver too.
I would be careful with worms if my digestion was not good though...

I love seaweed too now Adora! I eat them every day. I do think they are strong detoxers as I have a feeling I get little bad skin if I eat too much? A few pimples and such? I am not sure it is from the seaweed but I think so.

I make the water now too, cold fresh water and add some raw dried seaweed to it and let it stay in room temperature. Nice, little salty but very nice! This must be really healthy I guess.  :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 28, 2012, 07:44:20 pm
Hi Inger

I’ve been eating raw meat for 2 years and I remember you mention Dr Jack Kruse in February  so I follow the link and after reading his post for a few days I started his protocol in March.

I’m LR so losing weight is not easy I’ve a leaky gut and constipation it was chronic, so I though I’ll have a go even though the cold bath didn’t appeal to me and I never thought I will be able to put ice on my body. However now after 6 month I can tolerate for 40 minutes.   

At the beginning when I did the face dunk I did get a headache then I started eating fish and the headache went then I realize I needed fish as omega 3.

My constipation is getting better and I think I’m healing my gut which is great and I’ve no more craving I can eat 2 meals a day without any problem before even eating raw meat and fat I was hungry after a few hours.

I can eat onions, garlic, my own cider vinegar, coconut oil.

I’m still long way to go but my ultimate goal is to heal my hormones. I’m having some test done this week like saliva cortisol.   

So thanks Inger for mentioning Dr Kruse I’m always open to new ideas trying to heal my body of all the abuse which I did unknowingly did.


Miriam, I love this!!!  :)
I abused my body too, but I did not know eather! That is so exiting to get knowledge all the time to bring us further on the path to Optimal.  :) Sometimes the path takes us somewhere we could not ever believe...! I need to keep my mind open always, to the truth. That is such an exiting way to live for sure.
And ah.. sometimes it is darn hard.

Sure we need to be very patient. What took 35 years to destroy do not get fixed in a week or two for sure.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 28, 2012, 08:10:11 pm
So, it goes even more strict.
The Doc says.. all fake light is bad.
Now.. how do I put this into action?! Not easy. I already quit all jobs that are late.. I take only day jobs from now on.

I need to be even less on my computer.. uh. There is so much to learn and read. I need to find a good balance though. Outcome= more good than bad. I am sure I will figure it out. Fake light at daytime are not good eather. That is what stays in my German Sun-book. Fake light is always bad, there are only degrees from worse to less worse. Candles are less worse.

Water in the river is 57 degree F these days. It is nice and refreshing. I just swim 100 m every morning, not that much but I love it.
I cannot wait for it going colder though..! I recognise I do not like warm water anymore. I was in the train on my way to work and used the "lady's room" and washed my hands after and the water was too warm. It felt so not good.

This weekend I should get my labs. I am so exited, I cannot wait. I guess my hormones are messed up quite a lot. It was expensive too.. My brother was doing the same labs in Norway last week and it costed him only 10 €..! I wish I lived there, I would run labs every week... lol
Now it is going to be fun to compare our labs as he visit me in two weeks.  :) He is always in with new ideas, and loves to get to optimal too!

I am making me seaweed-water these days, always have a can full on the counter. I like the taste, slightly salty but nice!
I had live oysters the other day and it was too nice.. wish I had more money to buy these... I would eat them every single day. But one costs 2,50 €. So until I have paid my bloodwork it will be not too many of them. They were farmed though. I wonder if farmed oysters are still very healthy? Like the mussels? Or are there anything to be aware of? AFAK they do not feed them anything they just stay in the sea water? I wonder about this...

I was thinking about doing one week seafood only. I think that would be great.

I have been drinking mackerel-head-smoothies for days on the row now. Man they makes me feel great!!!!
I also am eating at least one dirty carrot from the yard every day, with real dirt on it. For my gut microbiota. Jack says we need to eat dirt.  ;) Tastes great our carrots. I am not the fan of vegetables and eat them rarely, but I guess I will eat more of them now when in season! Just to get some dirt in. :)

I did a pull up. I have not tried for so long and wondered if I am able to do one and I was. Cool. I did only one though. Maybe I do one once in a while and then all of a sudden I can do two?  I just might not need more muscles right now I am already looking muscular that one of my brothers commented on it yesterday.. and I want to rather look like a woman though. I wonder if my testosterone is high or something. Soon I will know...
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 28, 2012, 08:21:23 pm
Inger, what about improving this title into "Let me hormones self-optimize" ?  ;)  It's your choice anyway, just a suggestion.

LOL.. Iguana I find your suggestion just great! But should it not read; "letting my hormones self-optimize"...?
My English is so not good so I need help, if looks good or not. I would gladly change the title if I just get some help to get the spelling and the message right..
I see your point in letting the nature / my body do it, when I just follow its rules.
Or it could be.. hormonal health.. or the path to optimal... or anything. You think the title as it is now is a bit misleading do you, Francois?
Uh I am a bit lazy when it comes to spelling and such.. I just am too spontaneous and then have no time to think too much about how it looks or something..
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on August 28, 2012, 09:17:14 pm
Yeah, you found the way, I think. I wasn't very satisfied with my suggested title, but "letting my hormones self-optimize" sounds much better to me  :) ! Yes, I find the current title somewhat misleading.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Suiren on August 28, 2012, 09:38:13 pm
So, it goes even more strict.
The Doc says.. all fake light is bad.
Now.. how do I put this into action?! Not easy. I already quit all jobs that are late.. I take only day jobs from now on.

I need to be even less on my computer.. uh. There is so much to learn and read. I need to find a good balance though. Outcome= more good than bad. I am sure I will figure it out. Fake light at daytime are not good eather. That is what stays in my German Sun-book. Fake light is always bad, there are only degrees from worse to less worse. Candles are less worse.

Oh wow. Is there any study the doctor is referring to? It would be interesting to read.
I won't be able to follow a strict regimen like this, since I work after 10PM, also on the computer to some degree.
I will definitively have the lights low as always though!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: RomanK on August 29, 2012, 01:24:46 am
Inger, do not forget to share the results of yr labs here. You are quit long time on the paleo...
Suiren, there is dr. Cruse's site with tonns of info and links to the sources of his ideas http://jackkruse.com/brain-gut-6-epi-paleo-rx/ (http://jackkruse.com/brain-gut-6-epi-paleo-rx/) this specific one is about seafood paleo for the brain inflammation (but it is good for anybody).
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on August 29, 2012, 01:46:48 am
I lived with candles and a few helpful items are;
Taper candles because taller candles throw more light.
Candle holders with a finger hold and a wide base to catch the drips.
A glass hurricane or lantern for walking outside in the wind
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Suiren on August 29, 2012, 03:27:57 am
Suiren, there is dr. Cruse's site with tonns of info and links to the sources of his ideas http://jackkruse.com/brain-gut-6-epi-paleo-rx/ (http://jackkruse.com/brain-gut-6-epi-paleo-rx/) this specific one is about seafood paleo for the brain inflammation (but it is good for anybody).

Thank you, I will have a look at that!  :D
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on August 29, 2012, 05:20:35 am

I love seaweed too now Adora! I eat them every day. I do think they are strong detoxers as I have a feeling I get little bad skin if I eat too much? A few pimples and such? I am not sure it is from the seaweed but I think so.


do you think the pimples are just your body saying, "yes you have had too much seaweed" and detoxing the extra minerals and perhaps its reaction to the seaweed via the skin?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on August 29, 2012, 06:53:16 am
The SCD specific carbohydrate diet suggests that seaweed has compounds that are difficult to digest and should not be eaten ! ?

Maybe I could try fermenting it, as I seem to be experimenting with fermenting everything else  l)

I loved Aajonus Vonderplanitz on youtube with raw and rotten meats - so much of our culture is anti-life NOVEL-CHEMICAL propaganda - I was going to say RUBBISH, but then realised that actually organic rubbish is great and novel chemicals suck!

From this site I have stopped using chemical scented products and am trying old llama poo as under arm culture enhancer  -d Experiment - do the microbes in llama poo create a more well rounded personal chemical inter-organism communications? I am also peeing on my feet and walking in llama and chicken poo to see if it heals my cracked up feet.

Inger, how about your goal be to live life as your most alive self?
Sounds like you are doing awesomely already 10/10  ;D

Technically for me my goal is to ingest minimal novel chemicals and maximal beneficial life forms and their natural decay products , while replicating a natural lifestyle to some degree. Ohh and going for some cold water swims as promised - got up to ankles so far here ~10C winter temp.

Getting sunshine, not washing, taking vit D3 all going well - no complaints re my smell, only my fermenting fish needed to be moved to the shed.

What fun it is to gain a billion new friends  :D




Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on August 29, 2012, 07:50:48 am
there is also literature that suggest there are many compounds that help to heal the intestines and that it is also a great source of trace minerals.  i use seaweeds but also notice a benefit to my digestion and overall health from them.  i use mainly kelp granules, and sometimes dulse or spirulina, as one would salt, just sprinkle it on whatever i am eating.  at times i feel it enhances digestion, at times i can also tell if i have had enough because it tastes overwhelmingly salty
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on September 04, 2012, 05:43:07 pm
What I am eating these days.
I was shopping in supermarkt and got so much wild stuff! Wild picked fresh berries, wild fresh mushrooms, reindeer, wild caught small fishes (lake). I eat them whole, cooked in homemade fishbroth, eat heads and stomach and all. They taste great. Sometimes I do them raw in the blender but not so yummy. The mushrooms I fry gently in coconutoil with some onion and seasalt and eat it pure.. so yummy! Berries I eat pure, or mixed in the bleder to smoothie with some raw colostrum, or with some coconut butter.. yum.

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Mackerel heads.. and some more heads.. ;) makes me feel so increadible good!!! I use to do the mackerels heads and livers in the blender to drink and then I make a tartar from the fillets with skin, I add organic white winde videgar, wild raw honey, onions and sea salt. I roll it in nori leaves and cut mouth fitting pieces off with a scissor. It is soooo yummy!!!! Two big mackerels with heads is a usual meal for me;

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Sorry they lok not so yummy because that is my fastfood and I had no time make it pretty, but it is very handy food! Like kind of tortillas actually!

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This is the reindeer dried overnight on low temp. I love the marrow in the bones. The yummiest marrow EVER. I crave it.. Today I smeared it on my skin too today first time.. (haha.. Adora I start to be like you.. I smeared some sea buckthorn berries from the garden too on my face, I love how it makes my skin feel.. wow. Very unsexy facials we have but wow do they work? YES!)

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Then I drink my seaweed water every day. I just take some raw dried seaweed and put it in a glasbowl with water and let it stay. It tastes great and I bet it is super healthy too. I eat the seaweeds too when the water is gone.

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Me yesterday.

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I feel so very good on mostly seafood! I eat mostly 2 meals seafood and 1 meal meat these days. Sometimes I eat all 3 meals seafood only! I know in the deepest of my mind that seafood, all kind of, truly are superior foods. I am aiming for eating almost only seafood. And algae. That is my goal. If I only could get oysters more often. I love them.
I eat a really dirty carrot every day too from the garden. I need to get lots of bakteria for my gut. And I eat berries from the garden too, they and wild raw honey are my only carb source. I eat very little carbs. I feel great without.

I do have cheated a little (maybe 1 or 2 days / week) at work with some regular cream and seldom some dark chocolate. They do me no good at all. My skin actually suffers from it. Not badly but still, I need to quit them totally. I need to get 100% strict and eat only foods that are healing.

I eat some almonds, brazilnuts or macadamias or olives or avocados for my omega 6 too sometimes.

- - - - -

I got my labs back. I was too stupid taking blood drawn at day 11 of my period (follicular/beginning of the ovulational-phase I guess). I should have waited until day 21. I need to do some new ones but that is what I have now;

Estradiol 1,1 nmol/l (299,6 pg/ml) (1100 pmol)
Range;
Follikular 0.07-0.53 nmol/l
Ovulation 0.23-1.31 nmol/l
Luteal 0.20-0.79 nmol/l

Progesterone 2,4 nmol/l (755 pg/ml) (2400 pmol)
Range;
Follikular <3.4 nmol/l
Ovulation 2.7-5.2 nmol/l
Luteal 12-69 nmol/l

Testosteron 1,2 nmol/l (1200 pmol)....Range; <2,8 nmol/l
Testosteron free 13 pmol/l ...............Range; 6-23 pmol/l
Testosteron free % 1,1....................Range;0.6-1.7 mg/l

DHEA 9,0 (nmol/l..? not sure about this as she said it so unclear on the phone, but range=1,9 - 17)

Glucose 5,3 nmol/l (90 mg/dl)

HS CRP 0,22 mg/l

DHEA way too low, should be in the upper 25% range.. the same with testosteron..
Glucose should be less than 85 mg/dl to be optimal I guess... even if my doc says mine are very good. Doctors do not know about optimal. -X
HS CRP.. could be lower too..  even if under 1 is very low risk range and my doc is very happy about it.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on September 04, 2012, 06:35:18 pm
Adora,
thank you for the candle tips! Very useful!  :)

@ Alive, yes, let us aim for 100% alive! Wow!  I wonder if we start to fly then?!
I am sure I have some live parasite friends in me too ha ha.. but tummy feels great, I feel great so they can stay if you ask me!

@ Jessica, I have no clue what way it is with the seaweed.. but sure whatever way it is it is good to go with your intuition. If I feel I had too much I just cut back a bit. I think gradual increasing the consumption is clever!
I did the Iodine-test, smearing some Iodine on my leg and checking how many hours it lasted.. I did it 5 PM and next morning there still was a very tiny yellow point back so looks like I do have some Iodine in me, the fish and seaweeds must have done something! :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on September 04, 2012, 06:55:37 pm
Very intresting information from Kruse's forum;

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fish eyes blow any liver away......and we do not eat them. They are loaded with A D E K DHA and lots of micronutrients in smaller quantities.......nutrient density is a function of the mammals most energy expensive tissues......in humans it is the brain heart and thyroid.
Story from Weston Price;
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Another illustration of the wisdom of the native Indians of that far north country came to me through two prospectors whom we rescued and brought out with us just before the fall freeze-up. ...

They accordingly abandoned everything, and rather than remain in the country with very uncertain facilities and prospects for obtaining food and shelter, made a forced march to the Liard River with the hope that some expedition might be in that territory. One of the men told me the following tragic story. While they were crossing the high plateau he nearly went blind with so violent a pain in his eyes that he feared he would go insane. It was not snow blindness, for they were equipped with glasses. It was xeropthalmia, due to lack of vitamin A. One day he almost ran into a mother grizzly bear and her two cubs. Fortunately, they did not attack him but moved off. He sat down on a stone and wept in despair of ever seeing his family again. As he sat there holding his throbbing head, he heard a voice and looked up. It was an old Indian who had been tracking that grizzly bear. He recognized this prospector's plight and while neither could understand the language of the other, the Indian after making an examination of his eyes, took him by the hand and led him to a stream that was coursing its way down the mountain. Here as the prospector sat waiting the Indian built a trap of stones across the stream. He then went upstream and waded down splashing as he came and thus drove the trout into the trap. He threw the fish out on the bank and told the prospector to eat the flesh of the head and the tissues back of the eyes, including the eyes, with the result that in a few hours his pain had largely subsided. In one day his sight was rapidly returning, and in two days his eyes were nearly normal. He told me with profound emotion and gratitude that that Indian had certainly saved his life.
http://forum.jackkruse.com/showthread.php?3597-Odd-statement-in-Cunnane/page2&highlight=fish+eyes (http://forum.jackkruse.com/showthread.php?3597-Odd-statement-in-Cunnane/page2&highlight=fish+eyes)

Now.. why are most rawpaleofooders eating no fish eyes..?!  That is as paleo as it can be IMO... :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 04, 2012, 09:07:29 pm
I eat fish eyes and fish brain all the time. 

What is exotic to me are your reindeer meat.  What does reindeer taste like?

Do you get any sea lion?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 04, 2012, 09:10:27 pm
Yeah, that reindeer looks so freaking delicious! Mackerel Heads sound yummy too! Brains and eyes MmmM!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Wattlebird on September 05, 2012, 05:52:14 am
Hi Inger,
I am a lover of seafood as well, especially shellfish and seaweed.
I have written about seaweed here: http://naturebum.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/seaweeds/ (http://naturebum.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/seaweeds/)
I eat all kinds of shellfish: limpets, abalone, spenglers triton, cartrut shells, oysters, cockles, pipis. Some of them here:
http://naturebum.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/cart-rut-shells/ (http://naturebum.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/cart-rut-shells/)
http://naturebum.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/spenglers-triton/ (http://naturebum.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/spenglers-triton/)
http://naturebum.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/limpets/ (http://naturebum.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/limpets/)
Kind wishes, J
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on September 05, 2012, 02:29:35 pm
Thank you Inger,
Fish heads sound like a perfect food  :)
With all those bones I can't imagine anyone getting osteoporosis on this diet either!

Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on September 06, 2012, 01:20:07 am
Great post Inger, I love the pictures. I've been wanting more fish too. I think the iodine and seaweed might have increased my anxiety. I'm usually a calm person, I've been avoiding it, but I'll start soaking some slowly again. With so many things revolving in the pot of my life it is hard to know what causes what.
    I want to be the best I can be too, but I wonder if maybe the chocolate slows progress in a good way. You've been under more busy stress too. Just consider with an open mind that maybe the chocolate serves a purpose. If you are sure it doesn't, then it may be easier to stay away.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Suiren on September 08, 2012, 05:09:01 am
I have eaten small fish with heads, eyes and all before...last was about 10 years ago, not RPD but Japanese Food.
I always had trouble with the head though, chewing it, and I can't say I loved the eyes, I ate it out of politeness most of the time ;)
Do you have any advice for chewing the head?

I also wonder about the taste of reindeer, and if it is similar to deer maybe? ???
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on September 09, 2012, 06:11:32 am
Does anyone have suggestions on how to make blended / ground fish heads, as when I put a fish head in my blender it sounds like I'm killing it!

I tried cutting it with a knife first, but the head was too hard to cut.
I am considering buying a meat cleaver to chop the heads up first before blending - can anyone advise on whether a heavy cleaver is best (800g) or a medium one (600g)?

I am also wondering if a meat grinder would be better than a blender, if I used a cleaver to cut pieces to fit in the grinder then it should last longer than a blender. As long as the grinder feed tube was small enough for the chunks to fit, possibly a commercial grinder would be best to have a larger intake size?

Also a commercial grade blender would be an option.

Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: cherimoya_kid on September 09, 2012, 10:31:37 am
Does anyone have suggestions on how to make blended / ground fish heads, as when I put a fish head in my blender it sounds like I'm killing it!

Use good equipment.  Some Cutco kitchen scissors and a Vitamix blender should easily handle any fish head.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on September 09, 2012, 04:28:19 pm
Grinder is probably better, cheaper, more useful (you can grind meat). But I have no experience, I'm just guessing.

Blenders spin at ultra high speeds, generate heat (not sure if this can cook your fish a bit..), mix the food with air a million times until you're done which oxidizes it very quickly (just watch how bananas or apples change to brown as you blend them). Not sure I'd like the same happening to the PUFA in fish.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on September 11, 2012, 08:45:40 am
inger, we have abundant sea buckthorn here......i am just now looking up a recipe for a salve or oil made from it:) thanks for reminding me
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on September 22, 2012, 06:12:56 pm
Adora, yeah.. sometimes I do eat chocolate but not often. It can go weeks in between. Anxiety could be detox, I had that too when doing CT in the beginning. I guess I detoxed excessive estrogen or my hormones were playing crazy somehow. Or I detoxed some poison from my fatcells..lol. It will pass. How long have you been feeling the anxiety Adora? Maybe good idea to step a bit back as I did with my CT back then. I just took it slower. The anxiety lasted a few weeks though.. it was bad. Now I have nothing like that anymore but I take it slow. The water in the river is 48 degrees now. I swim 100-200 m. in it every day. That is not much. I stay in from 4 to 10 minutes, not more. I am taking it slow..lol. I have only around 60 degree F in my apartment though so that is CT too somehow. In the night even less as I sleep with windows wide open. I like so much to have it cool!

@ GS, The reindeer tastes quite a lot like deer, I have to say! It has a mild taste, and the marrow is just so incredible delicious. Hard to describe the taste it is just so tasty!
I have never eaten sea lion, no.. have not seen it here eather..

@ Alive,
I have just a cheap blender that costed maybe 40 €.. Work very well for mackerel heads and other soft heads, just cut them with a scissor into smaller pieces first!
I am not blending them so long that they get warm or anything..lol. You can try to chew the heads whole for sure if you like to.. looks like you have no yucky-feeling about foods at all looking at your journal..LOL

@ Jessica,
post the recipe if you find a good one! Until then I do just.. reindeer bone-marrow pure and buckthorn pure very easy very yucky..lol I need to find a partner that do not mind me smelling like reideer-marrow. HELP. I am kind of being sad at times I will never find a man that fit.. It makes me sad at times for sure. A man that would not mind being in the cold and dark. Where is he. -[ Maybe one day he will come in my way. Until then I need to heal fast to be pretty.
I need to do the marrow buckthorn every day because of that too.. but I forget! Uh.. But I tell you the marrow is great for my skin..
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on September 30, 2012, 10:57:11 am
Inger you are beautiful as you are! its unfortunate that it is so difficult to find a suitable mate, but its definitely not because you aren't a radiant and intelligent woman.  I think that, for a few of us on the forum, the problem is there aren't any men around who would do us much justice in a relationship
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 30, 2012, 04:06:53 pm
Inger you are beautiful as you are! its unfortunate that it is so difficult to find a suitable mate, but its definitely not because you aren't a radiant and intelligent woman.  I think that, for a few of us on the forum, the problem is there aren't any men around who would do us much justice in a relationship

All of you are beautiful as you are! And inspiring! Given all of our chosen(sort of!) lifestyles, eating and living, to find someone like that narrows the pool to be certain. But to be sure, there is someone, or more than one out there for everyone in the pool of 7 billion human souls. But perhaps the reason we don't find that person or series of persons right away is so that we can work on ourselves, learn our personal lessons and truly get to know ourselves. It seems like that would make it easier for us to identify someone who we would meld with, hard to know what you want in someone else if you don't know what makes you, you. I know before all of this I never had any real attributes that I valued in a mate. She just had to be attractive to me and us enjoy eachother's company. Now, I want someone who's idea of clean is not sterile, but chemical free. Someone who can see through the vast amount of illusion in the way the world is presented by the so-called power structure. A person who lives in the present, doesn't take things too seriously but still wants to leave the world better and healthier than when they arrived here. A person who is connected to the earth, likes living in the folds of nature.

When a person like that comes along, shares my core values and is at the same place I am in life, things will unfold naturally, and it will be like finding my reflection in another. And this can happen for all of us. If we hold an image of that person in our mind's eye, see them coming in to our lives, feel the emotions we'll feel to have someone who shares our values, loves who we are and what we are, has the same interests, that person will come along eventually.

Of course if you want to meet people like that, the internet helps! lol Not completely necessary though, just go out in to the world, let your light shine and eventually the right moth will be attracted! I know I'd love to find a girl like anyone of you ladies, strong, smart, independent, kind and caring, you're all really wonderful!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on September 30, 2012, 07:17:52 pm
Toth and Jessica.. you are just too kind!  :-*

I am thinking like Toth says.. it is good to be alone for some while to heal and find oneself. Very good. I actually enjoy it tremendously most of the time to be honest.
Life is full of suprises. :) Better live in the present and amazing things start to happend.. (and no, I have not meet any man yet..lol I just embrace the present and it is beautiful to live in the moment)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Bio-shell Avatar on October 03, 2012, 09:11:46 pm
hi inger!

the best way to increase your testosterone levels (and growth hormone!) is high intensity training (hit) or high intensity interval training (hiit). it takes no more than two workouts of about 15-20 min per week.

what's important is that you make them as intense as possible, meaning you should be dead on your feet afterwards. that's what forces the body to up the hormones in order to adapt to the increased stress. the short duration and long periods of 3-4 days recovery make sure you don't overtrain or get inflammation. hill sprints are great in terms of hiit (swimming too if you can make it sprints  ;)), and for hit, resistance training with heavy weights until muscle failure. check out the sprint 8 videos on dr. mercola's website for hiit using an elliptical trainer. it's the best cardio exercise you can do and takes only 20 minutes.

btw, be sure to eat two or three small raw protein meals (+ some fat) right after the exercise (no carbs! insulin counters the other anabolic hormones) to help the body rebuild the destroyed muscle fibers.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on October 04, 2012, 03:23:27 am
@Inger - yes I'm willing to try yucky foods if they can contribute to health, it seems to make sense that since modern 'yummy' foods have been making me sick that natural 'yucky' foods could contribute to wellness. The fish heads I have been getting are too big to fit in my mouth - maybe if I go fishing and catch the tiny fish that people normally through away I will try eating them whole, lol. I am pleased to now be able to eat whole raw lambs heart, liver and kidney by just biting into them - a packed lunch is very easy to prepare by just chucking a few organs in an old bag (need to get my glass ware sorted to reduce plastic contact).
A few weeks ago I had a gutted fish in the fridge that went pretty stinky, so I have buried it in our organic garden and intend to dig it up soon to try ground ripened fish  ;D
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on October 07, 2012, 01:54:09 pm
hi inger!

the best way to increase your testosterone levels (and growth hormone!) is high intensity training (hit) or high intensity interval training (hiit). it takes no more than two workouts of about 15-20 min per week.

@ Alive,

Bio-Shell, thank you for the reminder! Maybe I will start some HIIT. Nice to have you in the forum!  :)

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@Inger - yes I'm willing to try yucky foods if they can contribute to health, it seems to make sense that since modern 'yummy' foods have been making me sick that natural 'yucky' foods could contribute to wellness. The fish heads I have been getting are too big to fit in my mouth - maybe if I go fishing and catch the tiny fish that people normally through away I will try eating them whole, lol. I am pleased to now be able to eat whole raw lambs heart, liver and kidney by just biting into them - a packed lunch is very easy to prepare by just chucking a few organs in an old bag (need to get my glass ware sorted to reduce plastic contact).
A few weeks ago I had a gutted fish in the fridge that went pretty stinky, so I have buried it in our organic garden and intend to dig it up soon to try ground ripened fish  ;D

you are funny...LOL Buried fish in the garden.. HUH!!!
But I am like you wuth my packed lunch, I love how easy it is to just pack a few lambs hearts that's it! On/at my work I want to have it very easy and quick and for that raw paleo wins totally. :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on October 07, 2012, 02:05:30 pm
So, the protocol goes well. I eat mostly from the sea. Seaweeds every day.
I got 5 kg whole, raw mackerels this week. OMG I was so happy! I had the head-smoothie yesterday. I did some delish tartar from the meat. Oh it was so delish I could eat it forever!!! I had a few lambs hearts too. I could not remember they tasted THAT good!!! I was sad when they were gone. I will get some more Thursday. I cannot wait. They do my broken heart so good for sure.

Me after a day of cheating.. at work with goat cheese and cream. Some organic red wine too. Makes me a bit puffy..lol.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ywv2tw.jpg)

But I feel great for sure. I eat lots and lots of wild berries and some wild mushrooms too. I love them dried and crispy. Plain. Something have changed with my teeth. They are not getting sensitive anymore from the sour wild berries, I can eat as much as I want! Before I always got a bit sensitive teeth if eating very much of them Now, nothing at all! Wow. Tells me something good is going on! And my skin on my body is so very smooth! I like this. :)

I have cutted a bit back on swimming in the river, I only swim 100 meter now every morning. Water is around 47 degrees F (8 degree C) I did 300 m for a week or so but I got some detox (depressed mood) and cut back. I cannot do too much CT. So I do baby steps. I have it very cool when I sleep, window wide open always.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Brad462 on October 07, 2012, 02:21:11 pm
Wow, you look fucking fantastic! (Emphasis on Fucking.)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on October 07, 2012, 02:38:52 pm
Brad.. what is this fucking about...?!  :o No bad words in my journal! (LOL just kidding..) Must be the mackerel heads..lol

@ GS.. help please!!! I wanted to change the name of my journal but it does not work how do I do it?  -\
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: CitrusHigh on October 07, 2012, 02:45:49 pm
I always love your style Inger. In this one you look like you're in an adventure movie, like Indiana Jones or Lara Croft. Damn!

Keep it up with those mackerel heads! lol
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 07, 2012, 08:33:54 pm
Brad.. what is this fucking about...?!  :o No bad words in my journal! (LOL just kidding..) Must be the mackerel heads..lol

@ GS.. help please!!! I wanted to change the name of my journal but it does not work how do I do it?  -\

What new journal name would you like to have? "Inger's healing journey" ?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on October 07, 2012, 09:14:01 pm
GS, yes. "Inger's healing journey" would be great! Is it possible? Does it sound weird..?

@ Toth, thank you  ;). Not ever will I give up the fishheads, that is for sure. Like a drug to me..lol
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 07, 2012, 10:14:58 pm
GS, yes. "Inger's healing journey" would be great! Is it possible? Does it sound weird..?

Subject / Topic name changed.

@ Toth, thank you  ;). Not ever will I give up the fishheads, that is for sure. Like a drug to me..lol

Careful with overdosing.  I remember having oyster binges, egg binges, etc.  Listen to your body signals and you will know when you have had enough fish heads.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on October 08, 2012, 12:09:18 am
GS, thank you for changing the name!
Mackerel-head-smoothie-binge...?! LOL.. no chance.. they are like gold to me. No opportunity to binge on them at all.
I only eat the heads from the fishes I eat, the whole fish. I do not always get mackerel either. Sometimes there goes weeks in between and I have none. I wish I had more, that's for sure!
I do try to listen to my body always GS. Thank you for your reminder. It is always good to be reminded about that.

I would love to have an oyster binge... but huh they are too expensive here. How did you feel after your oyster binge GS?

That is what I had today, twice. First mackerel heads and livers as a smoothie and then mackerel tartar with seaweed, organic onion, raw organic apple cider vinegar, raw wild honey, celtic seasalt, fresh grated organic ginger, self dried wild mushrooms on the top. It does not look too appealing, I know.. but boah.. was it good.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2pr5ssh.jpg)

Wild, fresh berries for dessert. It could not be better.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on October 08, 2012, 02:40:50 am
Wow now that's a healthy meal Inger!

Do you buy your fish whole, so you can gut them and eat the offal?
Do you choose smaller fish to get the heads in the blender more easily?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: ys on October 08, 2012, 06:21:47 am
hmmmmm...  so I took apart mackerel head.  besides tiny brain and badly tasting gills everything else was hard or bony, eyes, tongue, and the rest of the head.  even in the mashed up state I'm somewhat puzzled to see much nutrients.

the heart is very close to the head so I'm not counting it since I took it out.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on October 08, 2012, 10:20:50 am
those mushrooms look gooooood!  beautiful photos as always, you and your meal..

i am interested why you would want to increase your testosterone...did you end up getting your hormones checked and are low testosterone?  or do you feel a need to increase it for some reason?

i have been invited to live off the sea down in mexico for the month of december. hiking and fishing and building fires and camping.  i would love to consider this but have a feeling the ocean is terribly polluted down there.  you look so radiant from eating so much fish though, i would love to live near clean waters to fish or have easy access to a source!

do you think your teeth are benefiting from all of the minerals in not only the seaweed but the cartilage, skin and bones as well as the high amount of vitamin c that probably helps it all absorb in your body?  i have just begun making thick rosehip tea, which has a lot of vitamin c and pectin, its so tasty, and much less sweet than the fresh berries i was eating.

@ys......what do nutrients look like?  the cartilage, bones etc are full of nutrients....!  minerals, fats, gelatins, amino acids.  i am pretty sure even inger thinks it tastes gross lol!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on October 08, 2012, 04:15:29 pm
i have been invited to live off the sea down in mexico for the month of december. hiking and fishing and building fires and camping.  i would love to consider this but have a feeling the ocean is terribly polluted down there.  you look so radiant from eating so much fish though, i would love to live near clean waters to fish or have easy access to a source!
I don't think the Pacific Ocean is much polluted along the Mexican coast (at least until the arrival of the Tsunami's debris from Japan  >:) and the Southern part of the Sea of Cortez in Baja isn't polluted neither. There was plenty of shellfish last time I was there, a kind of paradise. :)

The coastal waters on the Gulf of Mexico side are  more polluted, I think. And the Baltic Sea... -\  :(
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: wodgina on October 08, 2012, 08:03:11 pm
GS, yes. "Inger's healing journey" would be great! Is it possible? Does it sound weird..?

@ Toth, thank you  ;). Not ever will I give up the fishheads, that is for sure. Like a drug to me..lol

I was hoping for 'Inger's Bikini Journey' but hey

Anyways food looks amazing/alien
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on October 09, 2012, 05:18:27 am
I don't think the Pacific Ocean is much polluted along the Mexican coast and the Southern part of the Sea of Cortez in Baja isn't polluted neither. There was plenty of shellfish last time I was there, a kind of paradise. :)

oh, thanks for the info and personal experience iguana, i would be in baja so perhaps in a beautiful clean environment with some decent seafood. although the only thing that was mentioned where lobsters, which are one of my least favorite seafood, but i have never had them fresh.

sorry to usurp your post for a moment inger!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on October 10, 2012, 09:25:21 am
This radio program about 'Social jetlag' fits in with what Inger has been saying...
"Till Roenneberg's a German sleep scientist who reckons blackout curtains, computer screens, and artificial lighting are all shifting us away from the natural lighting cycle of sunrise and sunset. (23?55?)"

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thiswayup/audio/2534670/social-jetlag.asx (http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thiswayup/audio/2534670/social-jetlag.asx)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: CitrusHigh on October 10, 2012, 09:53:43 am
J, those lobsters are nothing like main lobster, and also raw lobster is one of the sweetest meats there is imo, so good, whether it's maine or spiny (tropical). I had it fresh out of the water in Belize and it was cooked, but incredible, have had maine lobster raw and that was a delicacy, but not fresh.

Also, I've not been to baja, but spent a month and half in Puerto vallarta which shares the same water and the seafood tasted and looked clean and fresh, I'd go for it if have a good feeling about it, but be careful if there are any red flags ahead of time, please!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Polyvore on October 10, 2012, 10:16:02 am
Wow Inger you really are looking nice and healthy. :)
You got me inspired to look into jack kruse's science and it is all rock solid! I am following closer and closer to a diet like yours.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on October 14, 2012, 06:37:42 pm
I was hoping for 'Inger's Bikini Journey' but hey

Anyways food looks amazing/alien


I will post a bikini shot extra for you one day, Wodgina. Promised.  ;)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on October 14, 2012, 06:55:16 pm
The waters around Finland are very polluted, it is the most radioactive sea in the world. I eat the fish anyways. I feel great from it. The fishermen in Finland eating lots of polluted fish are very healthy shows our governments research. So why should I fear? I do not eat any crap like they do additionally (I strongly suppose..), either.

I just had some local wildcaught small fish from the polluted sea.. I made a shake from the raw heads and seaweeds and drank it.. then I cooked the rest of the fish with bones and skin gently in water for a minute or two, added more seaweeds and Celtic sea salt and curcumin. So good. It is my comfort food. For breakfast I had raw lambshearts with raw onion and wild berries for dessert.
Yesterday at work I had just 3 whole lambshearts with me and ate them with scissors for dinner. A coworker come into the room when I was eating and got a small shock seeing what I ate. We talked about it and then she said she might try one day, because she thought I was the healthiest person she knew.. so it had to be something to it.. lol

@ Polyvore, yes his science really is rock solid when you take a deeper look! Most do not bother to, sadly. I am so glad you did!!!

@ Alive, cool! Yes, it is science. Nothing made up for sure. I feel it so strong when I can come home totally exhausted from work, I almost cry so exhausted am I from the big buildings and noise.. fake lights = led lights..I hate them.. (I am working for two weeks in a different place and I can tell it exhausts me) and then I have only candles at night, I go to sleep early.. I take a dip in the river.. I sleep in cold and dark. Eat great foods. The next day I am new. Totally regenerated. I could work every single day into exhaustion and I am always new next day! It is fascinating!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on October 14, 2012, 07:01:02 pm
Wow now that's a healthy meal Inger!

Do you buy your fish whole, so you can gut them and eat the offal?
Do you choose smaller fish to get the heads in the blender more easily?


Alive, I do not choose smaller fish because the ones I use the heads from are soft enough. I just cut them before with skissors into smaller pieces if bigger heads like mackerel to ease it for my poor blender.

From harder heads like cod I make fish broth if I get any. If non-fat fish.

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Check out this.. huh!!

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From the fermented section: The Indians also enjoyed fermented, gamey animal foods. The Coahuiltecans, living in the inland brush country of south Texas set fish aside for eight days "until larvae and other insects had developed in the rotting flesh.24 They were then consumed as an epicure's delight, along with the rotten fish." Samuel Hearne describes a fermented dish consumed by the Chippewaya and Cree: "The most remarkable dish among them. . . is blood mixed with the half-digested food which is found in the caribou's stomach, and boiled up with a sufficient quantity of water to make it of the consistence of pease-pottage. Some fat and scraps of tender flesh are also shred small and boiled with it. To render this dish more palatable, they have a method of mixing the blood with the contents of the stomach in the paunch itself, and hanging it up in the heat and smoke of the fire for several days; which puts the whole mass into a state of fermentation, which gives it such an agreeable acid taste, that were it not for prejudice, it might be eaten by those who have the nicest palates."

From the remarkable health section:
The early explorers consistently described the native Americans as tall and well formed. Of the Indians of Texas, the explorer Cabeza de Vaca wrote, "The men could run after a deer for an entire day without resting and without apparent fatigue. . . one man near seven feet in stature. . . runs down a buffalo on foot and slays it with his knife or lance, as he runs by its side."7 The Indians were difficult to kill. De Vaca reports on an Indian "traversed by an arrow. . . he does not die but recovers from his wound." The Karakawas, a tribe that lived near the Gulf Coast, were tall, well-built and muscular. "The men went stark naked, the lower lip and nipple pierced, covered in alligator grease [to ward off mosquitoes], happy and generous, with amazing physical prowess. . . they go naked in the most burning sun, in winter they go out in early dawn to take a bath, breaking the ice with their body."

From the whole animal section:

According to John (Fire) Lame Deer, the eating of guts had evolved into a contest. "In the old days we used to eat the guts of the buffalo, making a contest of it, two fellows getting hold of a long piece of intestines from opposite ends, starting chewing toward the middle, seeing who can get there first; that’s eating. Those buffalo guts, full of half-fermented, half-digested grass and herbs, you didn’t need any pills and vitamins when you swallowed those."

http://westonaprice.org/traditional-diets/628-guts-and-grease?qh=YTo0OntpOjA7czo1OiJkcmllZCI7aToxO3M6NDoibWVhdCI7aToyO3M6NToibWVhdHMiO2k6MztzOjEwOiJkcmllZCBtZWF0Ijt9 (http://westonaprice.org/traditional-diets/628-guts-and-grease?qh=YTo0OntpOjA7czo1OiJkcmllZCI7aToxO3M6NDoibWVhdCI7aToyO3M6NToibWVhdHMiO2k6MztzOjEwOiJkcmllZCBtZWF0Ijt9)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 19, 2012, 02:29:01 am
Today morning still in bed reading the news and drinking my morning coffee.. sorry.. without makeup.. that is the ugly truth how I look in the mornings.. ha.

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Today I did something not so pretty so why make things up..lol
For the ones that are a bit more sensitive.. maybe do not look  further in this post.  l)

For breakfast I had delish salmon tartare with wildcaught local salted roe. That was so yummy. Then some fishhead-seaweed-smoothie.

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I had 6 oysters too. I order such a pack with 12 in it for every friday because they are so healing food, they are from France, Bretagne btw. They was good!

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For dessert I did a seaweed/chocolate/wild raw honey smoothie. Yum!

For dinner I ate tartar from a local fish, the heads as a smoothie with some soaked kombu. I had mussels too with the tartar, precooked, and fresh coriander.

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Then comes the not so pretty part. I wanted to save the brains from our two lambs that my brother slaughtered yesterday. He saved the heads for me but I did not told him what I will do with them because he thinks it is sick to eat the brain. So I had to get it out myself. It was a bit not so fun to cut the sweet lambs heads I had kissed so many times..huh. Weird. But I was playing I was brains surgeon  Jack Kruse..lol and it made it so much easier. They was not alive either like in real surgery so that made it even easier! Here is how I did it and what I used to do it. It was really easy in the end!

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Tomorrow I will try one brain. Plain and raw as I always use to eat organs. I got the hearts, liver, kidneys and lungs too.

Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: van on November 19, 2012, 05:51:13 am
Inger,  can't find the words, but I like reading how inventive you are, and so willing to try things.  Makes me Almost feel mainstream.  You are one person I will be most interested to see how your health and food choices grows, evolves or changes with time.  Have you gotten used to fish head smoothies yet, or do you still need to hold your nose?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: CitrusHigh on November 19, 2012, 11:08:46 am
I will post a bikini shot extra for you one day, Wodgina. Promised.  ;)

Ummm please do, you are a great testimonial for RVAF eating and natural living, no need to be shy about that, it's a good thing!!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 19, 2012, 11:40:22 am
Do you have a spare room?
Will you open a raw paleo bed and breakfast service?
I'm sure you will be fully booked!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 20, 2012, 12:10:45 am
Inger,  can't find the words, but I like reading how inventive you are, and so willing to try things.  Makes me Almost feel mainstream.  You are one person I will be most interested to see how your health and food choices grows, evolves or changes with time.  Have you gotten used to fish head smoothies yet, or do you still need to hold your nose?

aww.. thanks Van! I am curious too where this journey will end... ;)
I do am holding my nose still drinking my fishhead-smoothies. I am not so sure if I want to get used to the taste at all..lol
Today I made one with just 2 smallish heads and some raw fresh celery, it tasted pretty good cause I forgot to rinse my mouth after!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 20, 2012, 12:12:58 am
Ummm please do, you are a great testimonial for RVAF eating and natural living, no need to be shy about that, it's a good thing!!

Promise.. one day.  :-* IDK I am in no way a perfect rawpaleodieter, I eat some cooked at times too.. -X
I am just not any religious about anything..
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 20, 2012, 12:14:36 am
Do you have a spare room?
Will you open a raw paleo bed and breakfast service?
I'm sure you will be fully booked!


I do have. I someone needs bed and breakfast service just PM me and I will do! For shower there is the river in the backyard.. ;)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey and eating lambsbrain video
Post by: Inger on November 20, 2012, 12:20:19 am
So.. I did some videos from me eating the lambs brain. I can tell you it tasted good...!!!
I did a second one because my cat so wanted to be in the movie too...lol

Eating raw lambs brain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAz2Mrh_Se8#)

Eating raw lambs brain with my cat... ;) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88kN8vbb5qE#)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 20, 2012, 01:14:48 am
I love your videos.
So feminine and so personal.
It's like you are seated in the same table as me.

I haven't had lambs' brains, tasted like porridge... I don't know what porridge tastes like either! :)

I remember cold goat's brains tasted like ice cream... double dutch flavour.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on November 20, 2012, 12:13:14 pm
lol inger i would love to stay with you, it seems you have such a wealth of good ingredients
your dishes always look so delicious!
i am surprised at how small the lamb brain is!lol, it looks amazing though
i, too, play surgeon when cleaning animals, i have to get very scientific and think of only anatomy.  just tonight one of the farm workers shot a deer and enlisted me to help drag it in, clean and hang it.  i was really caught off guard and i actually felt really emotional about it at first, but i just focused on being really thankful and getting the work done and it soon passed.  unfortunately the head is somewhere off in the woods.  the guy who shot it does not have the best command of english, so while i salvaged the heart and liver, the head ended up in the scrap pile.  the next time ill have a chance to look for it is 2 days from now, hhhmm..

i am glad for your research and photos tho inger, now i will know for next time!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 20, 2012, 03:00:29 pm
@ GS,
porridge is just like this baby porridge that is made from some oat flour and salt and milk and taste very mild. I loved it.
I am sorry I am "smacking" with my mouth.. that is no good table manners.. -[ I usually do not do that when eating but I just wanted to taste the brain well..

@ Jessica,
 wow you have one intresting life.. getting fresh meat too! Do you get the organs? I wonder what the organ is that looks like a liver but is much flatter and a bit smaller too but almost same color? I saved it but have no idea what it is..?
I need to take a picture from it. I saved the testicles too but I have a hard time trying them... l) Brain is not a bit yucky to me but the testicles.. help! It feels like eating a man's beautiful balls.. poor man! (I am thinking it might feel a bit the same for a man to eat breasts.. -X..) Have you tried those? What health benefits do they have if ingested?
I am curious how you will do when getting the deer heads.. please share, ok!
I can tell it helps huge to play surgeon. ;)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 20, 2012, 08:36:56 pm
Okay I tried the testicles. Sorry about the bad quality..

Eating raw lambs testicles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ymVCWvNT10#)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Isthmus on November 22, 2012, 01:02:42 am
Okay I tried the testicles. Sorry about the bad quality..

Haha, this is so cool. You need a nice shiny new camera so we can have "Inger eating testicles in full glorious HD" (:
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on November 22, 2012, 02:13:19 am
lol! when you said it tastes a little salty i knew what your conclusion about what else it tastes like would be ;)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on November 22, 2012, 02:33:49 am
so cute  :D
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Brad462 on November 22, 2012, 04:00:04 am
Nice, I could watch you eat testicles all day.  Just don't bite me.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on November 22, 2012, 06:16:29 am
inger, thanks you so much for posting these little videos. i was really inspired by you and ate raw deer brains today!  in a weird stroke of luck the dogs ended up dragging the hide with the skull attached the deer we shot a few days ago down near one of the farm buildings i was working in earlier. they ate almost everything off of the skull(eyes, tounge..etc.) but couldnt get to the brain.  i was caught off guard and too busy to figure anything else out so i used an axe to crack the skull in different places, it came out mostly intact.   wow, really tasty, i feel very fortunate!  i ate about a 4th of the little thing and am saving the rest for my thanks giving feast :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 22, 2012, 06:56:52 pm
lol! when you said it tastes a little salty i knew what your conclusion about what else it tastes like would be ;)

.. ;) ...  (women's secrets.. :-* I can tell you since eating the raw balls I have had the weirdest cravings.. just to do with this particular stuff..huh!)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 22, 2012, 07:01:49 pm
Haha, this is so cool. You need a nice shiny new camera so we can have "Inger eating testicles in full glorious HD" (:

You know.. I am quite happy the quality is that bad..lol. I am not so hot about being known as the girl eating raw balls huh! So I would actually prefer not to be acknowledged at all.. -X
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 22, 2012, 07:05:40 pm
Nice, I could watch you eat testicles all day.  Just don't bite me.

Haha.. I was thinking it might be almost "painful" for guys to watch for sure. I am sorry I had no intentions to cause any traumas for sure.. I can tell it wasn't easy for me to cut the balls either. I had quite the mental blockage. Because I could not ever hurt a man.. I love men!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 22, 2012, 07:11:47 pm
inger, thanks you so much for posting these little videos. i was really inspired by you and ate raw deer brains today!  in a weird stroke of luck the dogs ended up dragging the hide with the skull attached the deer we shot a few days ago down near one of the farm buildings i was working in earlier. they ate almost everything off of the skull(eyes, tounge..etc.) but couldnt get to the brain.  i was caught off guard and too busy to figure anything else out so i used an axe to crack the skull in different places, it came out mostly intact.   wow, really tasty, i feel very fortunate!  i ate about a 4th of the little thing and am saving the rest for my thanks giving feast :)

Jessica, that is just great! Wow.. so happy I got you to try brains! What a great thanksgiving feast!! They truly are delicious, something of the best tasting I have ever had when it comes to raw animal food. I will get brains only in fall, just a few, this year I got 2. I ate them both in 2 days. Next year I will hopefully get 6, if our sheeps get that many babys. We'll see. I get brains from no where else here, only from own animals. They are not allowed by law to be sold at all in this country.
But good is I get fish brains as much as I want year round..YAY..!! They save me totally. Fishhead smoothies are my substitute for brains. :) But sure lambs brain taste better to me. ;)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 22, 2012, 07:18:40 pm
I can tell the raw labs testicle do are working somehow...  l) I better save the details for myself. -X
I had the weirdest smoothie. Lambs testicle, moose kidney, water. That was yucky for sure. I drank it fast and hold my nose.
I had one yesterday and one today. I am planning on having one of these every day until the balls are gone. Even if they have some quite noticable effect that is maybe not too pleasant to experience without a partner I am not going to throw them away..

I am very happy about the smoothie thing. Makes it easy to ingest the weirdest things for sure!  :)
I always reward myself with something delish after having a yucky smoothie. Like a nice carpaccio, or a 40 degree C coffee with cardamom, raw coconut oil and a raw eggyolk, made into a foamy cafe latte..mmm.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on November 27, 2012, 04:35:08 am
HI Inger,
 Is there any ocean fish whose head you wouldn't eat? I think the fish market would save me more, they would freeze them, what do you think of frozen? Would/have you eat(ten) the bellies of any fish besides mackerel. The Mackerel felt great, but I wasn't wanting to venture past your experience.
   When I had raw testicle, the taste wasn't bad, but I had a huge urge to vomit after 3-4bites, so I stopped. Then, experienced a powerful surge in energy, not sexual, but that could have been due to complex factors, I ran fast. I seemed to need to and I was restless, jumpy after and had trouble sleeping. The energy felt out of sync with me, like it was male and it unbalanced me. Your experience was so positive, maybe I'll try it again. I think the lambs are all gone now, but I'll check.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on December 08, 2012, 03:18:21 pm
Adora, sorry for replying so late! I had so much work there was no time for much else...huh
Fishheads.. IDK I guess I would eat any fishhead but because I am doing the smoothie thing I can only use heads that are so soft they get crushed in my mixer. I have done Baltic herring head smoothies too and other fishes that are small. From a big head like cod, I would just make broth.. But that would be a no go if one is 100% raw for sure.

About freezing, you need to be careful about fatty fishes. They get rancid fast, also frozen. But just for a weeks or two I guess it is fine! And non fatty fishes a little longer. I have nothing against frozen but sure fresh is always better. :)

The urge to vomit when eating raw testicles was maybe your instinctive stop signal? That you needed not too much of them? Could be just psychological too for sure. This is always hard to know..
I ate both balls in  just a few days and I never got an urge to vomit. Maybe I need some man power..lol Yeah.. sure. I am under some quite strong pressure right now but I fight like a lion. I am so much more able now to fight for my own well-being. It gets better day by day. It is like starting to love oneself for real.. it is beautiful. I need to explore this.. I know I am onto something huge... what amazing things are the dark and cold + amazing foods doing...huh
I even cheated at work with cream and almonds again but I still felt great! Now I have days off and home I never cheat. It is a challenge for me to not munch on the almonds at work. They do me no good for sure! But hey, every day is a new, beautiful day and I tell myself every morning, this day is going to be just great! I am going to make it the most beautiful day ever! And so I always learn new things.. face the challenges and resolve them step by step.. life is just amazing!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on December 09, 2012, 07:14:35 am
I'll see if I can get more fish heads. I only eat the eyes and brain. The rest is just bone and gills. I like the taste of the little brain. Do you think any ocean fish guts would be fine to eat too?
I loved your last post. I'm doing well too. I can't seem to keep the lights off at all. I love the dark and detest artificial light, but It is dark so early and i have so much to do that is fristerating to acomplish without light. Everything else I am doing well with and I feel much better too.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 09, 2012, 12:09:12 pm
As far as fish heads, a good pair of kitchen scissors can chop even the big ones into blend-able chunks.   I use Cutco scissors, they are expensive, around $95, but they last forever, and they are the best scissors/shears you'll even use, by a lot.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: LePatron7 on December 09, 2012, 09:14:25 pm
As far as fish heads, a good pair of kitchen scissors can chop even the big ones into blend-able chunks.   I use Cutco scissors, they are expensive, around $95, but they last forever, and they are the best scissors/shears you'll even use, by a lot.

I have them too. They're great. And they have a forever guarantee.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 11, 2013, 12:24:53 am
How is it going?
Great... :)

I love this protocol! I am enjoying my icebaths practically every day. I do different long dips, in between 30 seconds to 5 minutes. I did 7 minute long dip too but then it felt too much after.. I had to take a long hot shower as it felt like my heart froze to ice huh! l) Today I did 4 minutes.
It is so beautiful here now, it snowed yesterday;

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I am eating a lot of raw grassfed heart last two weeks. every day! Raw grassfed beef fat too.. I just LOVE it! Here is a carpaccio with raw beefheart, raw beef fat, raw onions, organic balsamic vinegar from  100% grapes only, and a little seasalt. So yummy..
 
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I order 13 oysters every Friday. More I cannot afford, I would eat this amount every day if I could..

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Today I made me a yummy dessert from our own ducks eggs, one yolk and one whole egg, a small teaspoon wild raw honey, and wild Finnish blueberries.. I am not eating this often in winter though, I feel the eggs are not too good for me at this time of the year. It is a occasional treat only;

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I eat raw reindeer almost every morning, with the marrow too. The yummyest thing ever.
Reindeer has lots of Q10 too, really important when too little time outside and grounding.. I feel great on those food. 

I just love how sleepy I get at 8-9 PM.. and how I wake up every morning at 5 or 6 PM.. This all feels like pure luxury!  But I have consciously organized my life like this.
I have been reading so much last weeks, about EMF, earthing, electrons.. wow it is all so fascinating! My mood is just high almost all the time, others are complaining about the long and dark winter and when will it finally end, and they are sooo tired all the day.. and I am just so full of energy and feeling so light and happy, it is amazing. I feel no need for this winter to end..lol  a living proof that it is not the darkness that makes on depressed, for sure!

Weird how so natural things as having it dark in the evening are starting to feel like a gift.. something special.. something so blessed...
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on February 11, 2013, 02:05:06 am
Inger, you are adorable in your icy pool. Is that a fur hat? Did you make it? There is a river by me, but it can be seen by the road, and I haven't gotten up the courage, YET! I'm totally inspired to move forward, thank you, beautiful pioneer woman.
 
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on February 11, 2013, 02:10:07 am
Do you marinate the onions? I hate onion breath, but I love onions, especially the little red one's. I like them alone like an apple, but my breath is bad for 3 days!!! It is in my lungs, no amount of brushing can control it. What is your experience? Does it stop happening with improved digestion? Or are you just less social for a few days after eating them?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Löwenherz on February 11, 2013, 07:18:04 pm
Inger, thanks for sharing your keto experiences!

When I see this ice water hole...   ufff. You are a tough girl.

What is the fat / protein ratio in your diet round about at average?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: wodgina on February 11, 2013, 09:42:40 pm
I struggled getting in the water Yesterday and it was 38 Celsius outside.

But I'm curious about this cold water stuff
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 11, 2013, 10:41:20 pm
@ Adora,
yes it is a lamb fur hat..lol I did not made it but it looks quite home made though. I found it in my mom's stuff and nobody uses it so I thought it could be my CT-hat!  :) It works absolutely perfect! I never use any hats or any protection on my head all winter longs except when it is very windy and snowstorm. I do not freeze on my head even if it is very cold. And my brain needs to heal..lol. But when CTing it is great to use a hat! I use gloves too and woolsocks, they get wet but they protect my toes pretty good. Without them I cannot do more than one minute and my toes hurt!

The raw onions do makes me taste them for a while, but not too bad. It is very instinctive, as I sometimes cannot taste them at all and they are way too strong, and other times I just love them! I never realized I stink next day or even later in the day. IDK.. there is no man in my life right now except my ex that sleeps in my bed once in a while as we are still great friends but he has not complained yet..lol I do not eat onions every day though.

@ Wodgina,
the cold water stuff is... amazing! I promise! It is like recharging your batteries. I mean, really!

@ Löwenherz,
I have no idea what my ratios are.. I do not count. I eat quite much though. I eat very much fat. I can tell what fat I had today;

Reindeer marrow, about 4 tbsp
Grassfed raw butter, 4 tbsp
Raw organic coconut oil 3 tbsp
Raw grassfed beef fat.. a lot! Maybe 200-300 grams?
1 yolk, raw, from own duck
3 tbsp of raw EVOO

For protein I had around (I did not measured but, about..)
200-300 g raw reindeer meat
400 g raw grassfed beef heart
1 duck eggwhite, raw

For carbs 1 tiny teaspoon raw wild honey and maybe 2 tbsp raspberries from own garden, prefrozen, 2 big glasses of seaweed-smoothie (Wakame).

I am going to have 6 raw oysters right now for dinner, and maybe 150 g cooked mussels too.

How does this looks to you? Much fat or too little, in comparison to what you do?


Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on February 11, 2013, 10:45:54 pm
@ Wodgina,
the cold water stuff is... amazing! I promise! It is like recharging your batteries. I mean, really!

It never gets cold in Manila.
Does this work the same if I put ice in my bath tub?

Or that would not be right since I live in a tropical climate?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 11, 2013, 10:50:22 pm
GS, does it gets cold in the night? You could sleep with open windows and little covers?

I bet icebaths in your bathtub would be only great! But you have to try it out and tell us, for sure. :)
You will soon know, by how you feel after... could put ice cubes in your water all th time too!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Löwenherz on February 11, 2013, 11:38:18 pm
@ Löwenherz,
I have no idea what my ratios are.. I do not count. I eat quite much though. I eat very much fat. I can tell what fat I had today;

Reindeer marrow, about 4 tbsp
Grassfed raw butter, 4 tbsp
Raw organic coconut oil 3 tbsp
Raw grassfed beef fat.. a lot! Maybe 200-300 grams?
1 yolk, raw, from own duck
3 tbsp of raw EVOO

For protein I had around (I did not measured but, about..)
200-300 g raw reindeer meat
400 g raw grassfed beef heart
1 duck eggwhite, raw
..
How does this looks to you? Much fat or too little, in comparison to what you do?

For me, that's A LOT of fat. AFAIK one tablespoon are approximetely 15 grams. You mentioned 14 tablespoons + 1 egg yolk. That alone are round about 225 grams of fat. PLUS the beef fat! Your body is definetely a super fat burner. That's very good.

So far, I do better on lower amounts of fat and higher amounts of protein. A good daily intake during ZC weeks for me looks like 200 grams of protein plus 200 grams of fat (no oils for me).

Have you seen an improvemt of your fat digestion capability over time? Or have you been able to digest high amounts of fat immediately from the very beginning of your keto journey? I'm asking because I observe again and again that my fat digestion capability is limited, unfortunately. And I don't know if it's normal at that level. It improves very slowly on strict zc weeks. But fruits totally destroy my fat digestion. One week with higher fruit intake and I have to start at ground zero.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Löwenherz on February 11, 2013, 11:40:23 pm
It never gets cold in Manila.
Does this work the same if I put ice in my bath tub?

Or that would not be right since I live in a tropical climate?


For me it would make much more sense to train HEAT resistance in the tropics instead of cold resistance.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 12, 2013, 12:20:15 am
Löwenherz, how do I know if I have good fat digestion? I dunno. I can eat huge amounts of fat and I feel great after.. My stool does float sometimes. Is that bad? But I am very regular and I am not too thin or to thick I could be a tiny bit thinner but I am fine with my weight as it is now in winter. Absolutely. I feel light. I do not weigh at all.

I crave fat(or protein) not KH. I never eat much of them. If, it is very small amounts and I had enough. Like 1 teaspoon honey, raw and wild, mixed in my food for sweetness like salmon tartare.. Or a few spoons wild berries, they have very little KHs. I never eat fruit. Maybe in summer but even then not really.

I guess my fat digestion was always pretty good? Hmmm.. I do not remember so well as I have eaten like this for years. But I cannot really remember any issues. It does varyes though. There can be days with much protein and not so much fat. I do very much how I feel like, I do not make up any ratios.. I am not rigid like that.. it always flows..lol


Haha.. heat for adding resistance..? You know heat makes us get old sooner and shorten our life spans?  ;) So it would not make sense, would it?
I have heard from many that do heavy CT that their heat resistance get better too! So it would make sense!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Löwenherz on February 12, 2013, 12:52:27 am
Löwenherz, how do I know if I have good fat digestion? I dunno. I can eat huge amounts of fat and I feel great after.. My stool does float sometimes. Is that bad?

I would say if you can eat huge amounts of fat without any discomfort your fat digestion is excellent. Floating stools indicate undigested fat. But as long as you don't get diarrhea like fatty stools, I guess there are no problems.

Why do you think that heat shortens our life span? My friends in Sweden are convinced that their saunas are good for rejuvenation.

And what do you think about the theory that a high caloric intake shortens our life span?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 12, 2013, 01:42:26 am
I would say if you can eat huge amounts of fat without any discomfort your fat digestion is excellent. Floating stools indicate undigested fat. But as long as you don't get diarrhea like fatty stools, I guess there are no problems.

Oh that is great. I do not get diarrhea, so then it must be fine!

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Why do you think that heat shortens our life span? My friends in Sweden are convinced that their saunas are good for rejuvenation.

And what do you think about the theory that a high caloric intake shortens our life span?

Löwenherz


That heat shortens life span is a scientific fact, that is too why people around the equator live shorter than people in colder climates.. Cold preserves. It makes the electron charge keep longer in our bodies.. it is important for less inflammation.. cold helps keeping inflammation low too. Inflammatiuon is the source of about all neolithic deseases me thinks..

Saunas are good because they are short duration exercise and are very relaxing and you use them with cold dips or showers. But heat is not good long term.

I think high calorie might well shorten life span. It is actually a fact I guess already. Overfeed at least is not good for longevity. IDK if it is in the ketose path too... it might be a difference when fatburning mode. To use fat for fuel instead of CH is absolutely better for longevity! A fat molecule is way more efficient fuel than a carbohydrate and creates less oxidation...
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Löwenherz on February 13, 2013, 12:16:01 am
To use fat for fuel instead of CH is absolutely better for longevity!

That's my belief, too, judging from my own body, AS long as we use saturated fats. I'm sure that unsaturated, high pufa fats (even raw) are much more damaging than sugars.

Nonetheless high carb doesn't always mean short lifespan. There are a lot of very old high carb low fat dieters in the media. Think of Charlotte Gerson and others. We can't find many very old and healthy low carbers, at least in the media. One reason may be that most of them eat cooked animal foods. Cooked fats are toxic. I can't eat them anymore..

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Löwenherz on February 13, 2013, 12:27:48 am
I have no idea what my ratios are.. I do not count. I eat quite much though. I eat very much fat. I can tell what fat I had today;

Reindeer marrow, about 4 tbsp
Grassfed raw butter, 4 tbsp
Raw organic coconut oil 3 tbsp
Raw grassfed beef fat.. a lot! Maybe 200-300 grams?
1 yolk, raw, from own duck
3 tbsp of raw EVOO
For protein I had around (I did not measured but, about..)
200-300 g raw reindeer meat
400 g raw grassfed beef heart
1 duck eggwhite, raw
For carbs 1 tiny teaspoon raw wild honey and maybe 2 tbsp raspberries from own garden, prefrozen, 2 big glasses of seaweed-smoothie (Wakame).
I am going to have 6 raw oysters right now for dinner, and maybe 150 g cooked mussels too.

Roughly estimated, the above listed foods supply 4.000 to 5.000 calories!!

That's huge. Is this really a typical daily food intake in your diet?

I wonder why you are still so thin with such excessive amounts of calories. For comparison: Angelika Fischer claims that she eats round about 1.500 calories per day on her mixed diet and she has relatively high body fat levels.

I noticed that I need more food/calories on a ZC diet but I think I never exceeded 3.000 calories per day.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 13, 2013, 01:53:58 am
Roughly estimated, the above listed foods supply 4.000 to 5.000 calories!!

That's huge. Is this really a typical daily food intake in your diet?

I wonder why you are still so thin with such excessive amounts of calories. For comparison: Angelika Fischer claims that she eats round about 1.500 calories per day on her mixed diet and she has relatively high body fat levels.

I noticed that I need more food/calories on a ZC diet but I think I never exceeded 3.000 calories per day.

Löwenherz


It is a day where I ate quite much but I have those quite often..lol I do have days when I might eat only 2000 calories too or maybe less. But I always eat 3 meals / day and good meals. I have a healthy appetite. I never eat late though, usually last meal at 5 PM. And breakfast around 6-7 AM. I always eat a huge breakfast.

I do no sports at all, zero,  but I do CT, maybe it burns the calories? I do only a few minutes in my icehole it is not much. And I use little clothing outside and have it around 15 degree C in my apartment. I sleep with window opened wide and it is ice cold in my bedroom, I have no heating there, no electricity whatsoever.

Maybe all these things makes me a energy burner.. I am warm too. I am not freezing. My body temp (rectally measured as this is the only correct way) it is 37,0-37,6 degree C.

Angelika wrote somewhere she is easily cold when temps are lower... a very common thing around rawfooders that eat fruit/carbs year round..
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on February 13, 2013, 10:04:47 am
I'm glad you posted your approximate intake with portions for the day. I was content eating fat, maybe even less than you, but I tried to cut back because I stopped loosing weight. I think its chronic lack of sleep and low mitrochondrial function that is keeping me fat. I started eating more vegetables to combat the hunger after decreasing my fat, but that has actually made me fatter still.
I'm getting to bed now and eating more fat tomorrow.
Did you get info on Jack's mithochondrial webnair? Would you share some if you did? Also have a bad problem cheating with large nut/nut butter intake. If I have one nut I keep at the bag until my stomach is sick and my thighs are fat  :'(.
I suspect that your breath is much milder than mine after onions. It passes quickly when I mix with oil/ACV, but I prefer them alone.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on February 13, 2013, 10:42:39 am
>>> I sleep with window opened wide and it is ice cold in my bedroom, I have no heating there, no electricity whatsoever.

Do you sleep beside someone for warmth?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 13, 2013, 06:57:56 pm
@ Adora,
I listened to the webinar and I can share some info as soon as I have time, ok!
I would really ditch the nut butters... Nuts are a thing I limit too. Really.. I cannot stop too well eating them either! They are often rancid and who knows what..lol I love to eat some Siberian ceder kernels once in a while.. they are raw and wild and so delish..

You must sleep Adora. Without that you can forget about healing. Sleep is Nr.1, and to respect the circadian clock. You can go on and work late, have stress and all this but you must know then, why you are not feeling well, and not complain. Because otherwise it gets all confusing. You cannot go against natures law Nr1 (day and night) and expect to heal naturally.
I see many that complain all the time but they go on doing the wrong things, eating the wrong things (like carbs in winter..).. sitting long late hours on their computer.. and it feels just so time wasting to read all those complaints all the time so I do not. -[
Adora.. it might be you need to think all new to really heal. I do all the time. Maybe it is not a good thing for you to be a nurse.. pretty unhealthy work conditions IMHO. -[

@ GS,
no I do not have someone to warm me on...lol except of the occasional visit from hubs. But he is always cooler than me so I cool me off on him as I get so hot! Or he warms himself on me. ;) I can be a bit cold in the beginning when I jump under my cover but I warm up very fast and in the morning I always feel so hot!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on February 14, 2013, 07:43:29 am
Inger,
   What do you mean think all new. I assume you mean find a creative way to live healthy, but how do you do it exactly? Would you give an example of a time you, "thought all new" about something that allowed you to life the dream, that brings health and happiness?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on February 14, 2013, 07:44:42 am
BTW, I agree with everything you said in theory, I just haven't pulled it together in reality yet.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Barefoot Instincto on February 14, 2013, 11:17:21 am
I'm glad you posted your approximate intake with portions for the day. I was content eating fat, maybe even less than you, but I tried to cut back because I stopped loosing weight. I think its chronic lack of sleep and low mitrochondrial function that is keeping me fat. I started eating more vegetables to combat the hunger after decreasing my fat, but that has actually made me fatter still.
I'm getting to bed now and eating more fat tomorrow.
Did you get info on Jack's mithochondrial webnair? Would you share some if you did? Also have a bad problem cheating with large nut/nut butter intake. If I have one nut I keep at the bag until my stomach is sick and my thighs are fat  :'(.
I suspect that your breath is much milder than mine after onions. It passes quickly when I mix with oil/ACV, but I prefer them alone.

I suffer from the same nut problem. Pretty much every single day I have 100 grams, sometimes 200 and other times 300. I try my best to keep it around 100 though or less, and often times succeed. Maybe try mixing them with coconut and low sugar (90%) dark chocolate? Cuts down on the nuts, and is mighty tasty.

I think what you need is an extreme stimulus to break through this plateau you're stuck in. The body is always striving for stability. It feels fine where its at and just wants to stay there, and will TRY to stay there. But you don't want it there, and it doesn't need to be there.

Once or twice every 7-10 days you should do uphill sprints. Do just a few at first (at the moment I can manage a good 4 without over-exerting myself). At the beginning, go longer, for 20-30 seconds at a time. Make sure to rest for many minutes in between, or as long as you need. Then, near the end of your last few, go BALLS OUT and give it your absolute all. Put everything into it, and hammer those hills out with the most intensity you can muster! You'll love the amazing feeling you get afterwards.

If you show your body you want change, then it'll up-regulate the very genes that'll give you the body composition you most desire. If you really want to accelerate your gains, add in a 20-30 minute strength workout once every 7-10 days. Go for as much intensity as you can! Lift heavy, heavy weights between 4-8 reps. Do 3 to 4 exercises each time, and make them multi-joint, full bodied type ones like the medicine ball pushup, or the military overhead press. Rest several minutes between each set, and above all listen to your body. Don't push yourself if it doesn't feel like getting pushed.

These types of things are the only way to truly get anywhere. But its truly comforting to realize it only takes 1-2 days a week, of 30 minute workouts, as long as you ramp up your intensity to max! Its also comforting to realize that this is actually the best way to get maximum gains, and to keep making them. Go BALLLLLS out for a short, intense amount of time and then lounge around, doing low activity, while eating proper, nutritious food, and you'll get where you want to be, I promise.

Do these things and you'll always be moving towards your ideal composition (as long as carbs are kept low, of course). I'm currently following this type of plan and I'm seeing incredible results and I've just started.

I'm on track to look like a bodybuilder by Summer, finally. I've said this a few times for a few years, and nothing really ever happened. I stayed looking crappy and plain. Now, my dreams are coming true. :) It's going to feel like nothing I've ever experienced when I have that kind of power inside of me.

For the people with an apparent "limit" on their fat metabolism, this should help you break that plateau as well. Show your body you wanna burn those fats to get and stay super fit, and everything will fall into place.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on February 15, 2013, 08:40:37 am
Barefoot -thanks but I've had a chocolate problem too, and I haven't had a bite of chocolate since mid Nov. I'm hoping to pull myself out of the nut binging, but I let myself have them for now, since I haven't been able to pull together the other important elements of rest and exercise.
    I do sprint up a steep hill every day because I barely make the time clock. I really enjoy it. Hills and climbing of all sorts make my heart pound, love it.

Inger - I reread what you wrote and I'm concerned that you are letting people drain you. I NEVER WANT YOU TO FEEL DRAINED BY ME. If you do, just don't read my stuff, or tell me, maybe that's what your trying to do. I'll back off, because I want you to have whatever space you need to feel good inspite of my sitch.
We having a loving, healing friendship, and I always want my presence to feel good to you, ie. no draining.
    I believe the constraint I've been experiencing is a great teacher, sadly elusive so far, but that doesn't mean I won't have my inspiration to change tomorrow. Until then, I do my best. There are lots of people that like to suck energy. I learned early in nursing how to really separate  myself.
I want to try to tell you how, maybe I'm way off here, ignore it, if I am. You can still love and care for others, but when you feel suckled, just pull your focus into yourself for a moment and feel your body, your physical borders, your skin and hair, then your cloths then all of the space that is between you and the other, even if you are holding hands, feel the border of your hand and become aware of the atomic space between your skin and you. Then, tell yourself, "this is me, my first priority. I don't choose to give my energy in anyway that doesn't FEEL honestly good in this moment." This is particularly powerful in partnership and especially sex. It's  easy to pick up too as a habitual response too. There's more if it is applicable let me know.
   I had a little raw onion alone and it's not as bad on my breath as it used to be. Maybe it won't smell tomorrow.
   
   
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Barefoot Instincto on February 15, 2013, 09:59:31 am
Barefoot -thanks but I've had a chocolate problem too, and I haven't had a bite of chocolate since mid Nov. I'm hoping to pull myself out of the nut binging, but I let myself have them for now, since I haven't been able to pull together the other important elements of rest and exercise.
    I do sprint up a steep hill every day because I barely make the time clock. I really enjoy it. Hills and climbing of all sorts make my heart pound, love it.

You and me both with the nuts. As I get healthier and fitter I believe I'll be able to ween myself down to a smallish amount as a snack every other day type of thing. Right now I just need this to look forward to. There are definitely worse snacks that people shovel down their faces daily. :P

That's great with the sprints, but it doesn't seem like nearly enough of a stimulus. For that to really make you get where you want to be, you'd have to do that several times at MAXIMAL intensity. The problem with this: You can't, its terrible for you. Doing it as you're doing it should be fine no matter what, but to trigger that gene up-regulation, you'll need to give it your all, several times over a period of time with huge muster. To do that properly you should take a good 5-7 days off at least before doing it again in this way. This is whats really going to make the difference. Your body needs to stop adapting to not changing and start adapting to change. Your body will always try and get you in a slump, no matter your composition. You just need to counter that.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Löwenherz on February 16, 2013, 03:23:24 am
Inger,

how much water do you drink?

Have you tried snow as a source of water?

I find most mineral waters unpalatable..

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 16, 2013, 04:10:13 pm
Inger,
   What do you mean think all new. I assume you mean find a creative way to live healthy, but how do you do it exactly? Would you give an example of a time you, "thought all new" about something that allowed you to life the dream, that brings health and happiness?

Adora, I'll soon explain, ok! We have guests in the house and my dad has birthday tomorrow.. I am so busy.. :)
I have time only for short answer. But I wanted to say, I never felt drained by you. :-* You need to know this, ok! I have gained from you! :)

@ Löwenherz,
I do not count how much I drink, but we have our own well water coming from deep in the ground. It tastes great. Maybe I drink 1-2 liters of water / day? I use to make me dried seaweed in a glass jug and drink the water throughout the day. I love this water more than anything! I often put some snow in my water too.. I love the taste of snow. I often munch on clean fresh snow when walking outside too!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Löwenherz on February 16, 2013, 06:32:39 pm
 
@ Löwenherz,
... I use to make me dried seaweed in a glass jug and drink the water throughout the day. I love this water more than anything!

Good idea! I wil try this too..   :)

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 20, 2013, 11:05:17 pm
Adora, nut butters are one of the things I've seen raw foodists get the sickest from. Maybe you should try reducing the amount you eat of them very slowly over several months. Maybe try eating nuts instead, also. It's too easy to overeat nut butters.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: van on February 21, 2013, 06:35:51 am
i like european sproutable  pumpkin seeds  (soak for eighteen hours, changing water three times) let sit in a collander for another 18 hours, lightly salt with celtic sea salt, and place collander in fridge.   You can taste the whole seed change into something that suggests healthy,, as opposed to simply raw without soaking.   Nice to munch on.   Same with in the shell Brazil nuts.  They change also to tasting alive, fresh, and instinctively instructive as to how much to eat.  Walnuts and almonds in the shell are also good that way.  Comparing soaked vs. non soaked side by side tells you a lot.  you might want to try it. 
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 22, 2013, 02:59:06 pm
CRON (Calorie Restriction with Optimal Nutrition) does not work anymore.  -X The earth is losing its magnetic field...

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No primates or humans can effectively use CRON any longer on this planet to their benefit any longer because if you calorie restrict, while your magnetic field is sucking electrons out of you,  your constantly  losing superconduction of water due to pulsed EMF in your environment. Moreover, this causes you dehydrate proteins constantly, they show altered molecular folding, water loses its binding sites and you lose energy,  and as a result you die quicker!  So far that is what the data says too.  Ron just did not understand this foundational field issue, and I did.  Ron is a very smart man.   Ron read the Cornell reports on CRON done in 1930.  What they found then can not be reproduced today.  The Earth today is not the Earth of 1930.  We no longer have the same electromagnetic field.  If we had a normal magnetic field Ron would be correct and I’d be on his side of things.  He is wrong because of Einstein’s math.  CRON is something mammals have already lost as an asset for survival, in this ongoing extinction event.  This insight should tell you just how fast things change in life when the field is altered.  That was just 83 years ago.  We need to gain time back now,  to really understand how to fix this mess we are in.  We need to stop the arguing about dogma, because we have a lot at stake.  We are all collectively entangled in it whether we like it or not.  It is time we think differently about everything.

Source;

http://www.jackkruse.com/emf-7-quantum-prometheus/#idc-cover (http://www.jackkruse.com/emf-7-quantum-prometheus/#idc-cover)

Read the blog. It is absolutely eye opening, and explains why fueling on fat instead of CH is life saving in todays world....
Because todays world is bombarded with EMFs and at the same time the earths magnetic field is getting weaker...
Maybe rawfooders and instinctos that feel not good eating all this fruít wake up now...
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on February 23, 2013, 04:22:32 am
Hi Inger,

When I read something odd like this, warning lights for pseudoscience start flashing in my mind:
CRON (Calorie Restriction with Optimal Nutrition) does not work anymore.  -X The earth is losing its magnetic field...
A look at the very long winded page you linked in reference reinforced my feeling, but as I’m not competent to really be sure of the scam, I asked a physicist friend of mine to have a look at it. He started by noticing this weird paragraph from Dr. Jack Kruse:
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The Russian’s realized that Einstein’s science shows what we do from here on out, affects every life form on this planet because EMF is a source of energy that once created can never be destroyed, just transformed.  It will last to infinity from their creation and they can not escape our ionosphere.  This is why a RCT is a waste of resources.
and my friend commented:
Delirious : electromagnetic waves created are fast disappearing in heat. EMF are transformed, as Kruse says, but into heat, so they quickly loose any influence. He states that the regulation of bones’ growth depend on their semiconductor properties, and could be related to these heaps of EMF emitted ever since Marconi !!

It is disturbing to see people who seem to have some scientific competence, in any case who are able to transcribe consistent concepts, suddenly put them at the help of an aberrant anxiety about electromagnetic waves. If this were the case, people who work in places where these waves are powerful, such as close to transmitting antennas, would have readily ascertainable health consequences, knowing that the intensity of a transmitted wave decreases with the square of the distance. Very near, for example at 1 meter, they are one million times stronger than 1 km away.

In any case, the sentence "It will last to infinity from their creation and they can not escape our ionosphere" is typically nonsensical because the ionosphere does not reflect the totality of the waves, so that after a few reflections Earth – ionosphere, nothing remains on Earth. Moreover, these EMF create eddy currents which reduce reflection and convert into induced currents, thus in heat
.

Looking for Jack Kruse on Google, I stumbled upon this
Dr. Jack Kruse, Neurosurgeon, is a Big Effing Liar
http://freetheanimal.com/2012/05/dr-jack-kruse-neurosurgeon-is-a-big-fucking-liar.html (http://freetheanimal.com/2012/05/dr-jack-kruse-neurosurgeon-is-a-big-fucking-liar.html)
I wonder if his “Doctor” title came out of the same diploma mill as the one of AV.

Cheers
François
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: LePatron7 on February 23, 2013, 07:29:24 am
Thanks for that iguana. I thought it sounded fishy.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 23, 2013, 01:31:14 pm
I should not have posted it for sure. You need to understand quantum mechanics. Is your friend familiar with that? It is not really what common wisdom is talking about, and what researchers take into account.

I immidiately knew Jack was right as I have experienced myself how EMFs change me and my physiology. If you choose to be aware you will see and feel it too.

Francois.. you are very strict about food and that they must be 100% raw and natural state. How comes you protect the use of EMFs and thinks they do not do any harm, and they are massively unnatural?
Do you see any mismatch?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 23, 2013, 01:34:58 pm
Francois, I did not thought you will go that low.. about the big effing liar article. Tells me something about you. Makes me sad. Have you checked what guy this "free the animal" guy is at all? If not, better do before you judge.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on February 23, 2013, 09:14:29 pm
I should not have posted it for sure.
But you did and now here we are!
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You need to understand quantum mechanics. Is your friend familiar with that?
I don’t pretend to understand it. I said this friend is a physicist, so of course he’s familiar with it. AFAIK, quantum physics essentially apply at the subatomic level and are mostly irrelevant at macro levels.   
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It is not really what common wisdom is talking about, and what researchers take into account.
Yeah, but it should fit with what we know and in this case it is not so at all. 
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I immidiately knew Jack was right as I have experienced myself how EMFs change me and my physiology. If you choose to be aware you will see and feel it too.

Francois.. you are very strict about food and that they must be 100% raw and natural state. How comes you protect the use of EMFs and thinks they do not do any harm, and they are massively unnatural? Do you see any mismatch?
I do not protect the use of EMF, I would not live just under a transmitter pillar and I would not like to spend hours talking with a mobile phone glued to my ear. We explained you that EMFs' intensity decreases with the square of the distance and that they quickly transform into heat. These are well known facts but Kruse is telling the contrary, so there’s a problem.

My post was not directed against you personally, but against the absurd theories of Jack Kruse that you promote. His ideas are not yours, you don’t have to identify yourself with it or with him. Please check what we say, do not believe us, but do not believe him neither.

But anyway, I don’t have much hope you will because when people get involved with such pseudoscientific ideas (that something fairly harmless can seriously damage their health, for example) there’s no way to get them ever reconsider their beliefs.  :(
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on February 23, 2013, 09:18:51 pm
Inger, don't get caught up into everything that's written on the web. Jack Kruse, a neurosurgeon, is talking about EMF? I think it's very obvious that he does not have the expertise for such a topic. If he was a physicist, then that might be a bit more credible. E.g. "the Earth EMF today is not same as in 1930" sounds like some really unsupported by evidence claim, simply because of the fact that the Earth is 4+ billion years old, and that the EMF would change significantly in the span of just 100 years is extremely unlikely.

Also it's obvious that he's not a really good scientist; he has millions of articles on his web site, yet zero scientific publications. This guy, like many others, is a sensationalist, it's just that he's not a professional journalist. He takes a topic (e.g. EMF) and turns it into an interesting story (in whatever way). This attracts readers eager for such sensationalist stories who are also not familiar with the topic and hence believe whatever is written. More readers -> more money, that's the goal here.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: LePatron7 on February 24, 2013, 02:40:42 am
I immidiately knew Jack was right as I have experienced myself how EMFs change me and my physiology. If you choose to be aware you will see and feel it too.

The minds a powerful thing. Some times just believing that there's something there harming you is enough to make you actually feel negative effects.

Ie. I cooked eggs once, added garlic and onion powder. My brother said, you shouldn't put garlic and onion on eggs. It can give you upset stomach. I said whatever and ate it any way. Of course, his claim was completely made up. But 5-10 minutes after eating the eggs, my stomach started to hurt.

He confessed he made it up. And my stomach stopped hurting.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on February 24, 2013, 04:32:26 am
Anything that isn't mainstream is pseudoscience. Don't follow what doesn't make sense to you Francois and DaBoss, but I like what Jack has to say and there is no reason why Inger shouldn't have posted it. All you have is opinion, Inger's, Jacks, Francois, a random physicist, DaBoss, mine. NOBODY KNOWS!!! All we have is our own experience. Thank you all for sharing, but it is ignorant to claim fact.  Why are you so attached to being right. Is Inger in some danger??? She is healthier than ever by her own account.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: TylerDurden on February 24, 2013, 05:00:31 am
I used to laugh at the notion of people being affected by electricity, years ago, thinking that they must be hypochondriacs until I came across a few  solid, sensible rawists who  stated that they got nasty reactions to  various nearby   electrical sources.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on February 24, 2013, 06:04:28 am
The minds a powerful thing. Some times just believing that there's something there harming you is enough to make you actually feel negative effects.

Ie. I cooked eggs once, added garlic and onion powder. My brother said, you shouldn't put garlic and onion on eggs. It can give you upset stomach. I said whatever and ate it any way. Of course, his claim was completely made up. But 5-10 minutes after eating the eggs, my stomach started to hurt.

He confessed he made it up. And my stomach stopped hurting.
Absolutely. Enlightening experience!


Anything that isn't mainstream is pseudoscience.
No, absolutely not, not necessarily. The progress in science, knowledge and technology has always come from scientists, inventors and engineers thinking outside of the mainstream. Most have been  misunderstood, mistreated and their work was recognized true only after their death – and the death of their opponents, as Max Plank once put it. But those genius had done a real scientific work.

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Don't follow what doesn't make sense to you Francois and DaBoss, but I like what Jack has to say and there is no reason why Inger shouldn't have posted it.
Of course, she has the right to post whatever she wants, moreover in her own journal. I have no problem with that, but wild claims such as “The earth is losing its magnetic field...” are so flabbergasting that they should be open to questioning, to say the least.

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All you have is opinion, Inger's, Jacks, Francois, a random physicist, DaBoss, mine. NOBODY KNOWS!!!
If our planet would be loosing its magnetic field, everyone should know it! It’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of facts. If we can’t agree on facts, there’s no hope of understanding each other. It’s winter now in the Northern hemisphere, water is a liquid, air is a gas, a stone is a solid, a submarine is not a  mango tree and I hope we can agree on these.

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All we have is our own experience. Thank you all for sharing, but it is ignorant to claim fact.  Why are you so attached to being right. Is Inger in some danger??? She is healthier than ever by her own account.
Of course she’s not in danger because of such beliefs. It is ignorant to claim fact? It’s rather the contrary in this case. Shouldn’t anybody react if someone suddenly pretend that a submarine is actually the same thing as an oak tree or that it’s now summer in the Northern hemisphere? 

All right, we all don’t know what matter exactly is, we can break it into more and more small parts, molecules, atoms, protons, neutrons, electrons, and then quarks and then we can't figure out what we are talking about. By then we are into quantum physics and its utterly strange world.

But, but… we all have the same kind of physical and psychical structures, so that we can all agree that we can’t walk trough a wall or a solid locked door, even if subatomic particles such as neutrinos can go all through our planet as it were empty space, with extremely few chances to interfere with something. We can also agree that a submarine is not a tree and a whale is not bird, that most cars have 4 wheels plus a spare wheel. This is because all sane humans have a common denominator, called the reason… ;)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on February 24, 2013, 06:13:54 am
I used to laugh at the notion of people being affected by electricity, years ago, thinking that they must be hypochondriacs until I came across a few  solid, sensible rawists who  stated that they got nasty reactions to  various nearby   electrical sources.
Interesting. Can you tell more? If a high voltage and amperage electrical or EMF source is nearby it's quite possible.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on February 24, 2013, 06:14:26 am
As a former electronics engineer my opinion is that Jack is spouting a load of rubbish about how damage is caused by EMF - as Iguana points out he is just talking mumbo jumbo.

But there is still plenty of scope for EMF to be causing harm to living creatures, for example: We know that many of the radio broadcasters in Australia who had the transmission tower on the roof died of cancer. Extended use of mobile phones can cause cancer. In these cases the signal levels were very high, and we should all be able to minimise the strength of our exposure. Even holding a mobile further away you on speaker phone will make a huge difference - every time you double the distance the strength goes down four fold.

And as Tyler mentions there are people who are also very sensitive ('allergic') to EMF and they recovered when they distanced themselves from radio sources:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14887428 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14887428)

The answer is that nobody really knows and you have to make your own call on the risks you want to take in return for the benefits of modern technology.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on February 24, 2013, 06:29:05 am
Francois there is a slight scientific mathematical chance that we could walk through a wall, and everything else he mentioned is within in the statistical realm of possibility also. Hard to prove, does not automatically make false.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on February 24, 2013, 06:34:33 am
Yes, Adora: a very, very slight chance...  ;)

As a former electronics engineer my opinion is that Jack is spouting a load of rubbish about how damage is caused by EMF - as Iguana points out he is just talking mumbo jumbo.

But there is still plenty of scope for EMF to be causing harm to living creatures, for example: We know that many of the radio broadcasters in Australia who had the transmission tower on the roof died of cancer. Extended use of mobile phones can cause cancer. In these cases the signal levels were very high, and we should all be able to minimise the strength of our exposure. Even holding a mobile further away you on speaker phone will make a huge difference - every time you double the distance the strength goes down four fold.
Yes, exactly, that’s what my friend says, the intensity of the EMF decreases with the square of the distance. I also said that I would neither live just under a transmission tower nor talk for hours with a mobile phone stuck to my ear. 

Now there is about 40% of the population who die of cancer, so it's rather difficult to know whether those broadcasters had cancers because they ate modern cooked food or because they were under the transmission tower. Probably because of both causes plus some others such as air pollution from exhaust of vehicles, but the food is almost certainly the main cause in most cases. 
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Adora on February 24, 2013, 06:43:37 am
I have my own degree in physics, thank you, and I hold my statements. I'm sure everybody's just trying to be helpful. I don't care if he's right, he helps my mind to stay open and interested, and my body to be strong.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: TylerDurden on February 24, 2013, 07:19:08 am
Iguana, I vaguely recall a very few  people being so hyper-sensitive to electricity that they had to remove all electrical  sources from their homes.  I admit that's even rarer, though.


Re car-exhaust fumes:- Heterocyclic amines and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons  are both components of car-exhaust fumes and of cooked foods. Plus, car-exhaust pollution  creates more advanced glycation end products and thereby more inflammation in the body:-

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3059995/ (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3059995/)

I would think that air-pollution would be more harmful than food, but still...
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: wodgina on February 24, 2013, 06:29:38 pm
Anything that isn't mainstream is pseudoscience. Don't follow what doesn't make sense to you Francois and DaBoss, but I like what Jack has to say and there is no reason why Inger shouldn't have posted it. All you have is opinion, Inger's, Jacks, Francois, a random physicist, DaBoss, mine. NOBODY KNOWS!!! All we have is our own experience. Thank you all for sharing, but it is ignorant to claim fact.  Why are you so attached to being right. Is Inger in some danger??? She is healthier than ever by her own account.

Great! any human on earth could of wrote this post. End of forum! we all have our own experiences no more debate!

People do have information and we do not just have our own experience.

Some input would be interesting instead of saying nothing Adora.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: wodgina on February 24, 2013, 06:39:51 pm
As a former electronics engineer my opinion is that Jack is spouting a load of rubbish about how damage is caused by EMF - as Iguana points out he is just talking mumbo jumbo.

But there is still plenty of scope for EMF to be causing harm to living creatures, for example: We know that many of the radio broadcasters in Australia who had the transmission tower on the roof died of cancer. Extended use of mobile phones can cause cancer. In these cases the signal levels were very high, and we should all be able to minimise the strength of our exposure. Even holding a mobile further away you on speaker phone will make a huge difference - every time you double the distance the strength goes down four fold.

And as Tyler mentions there are people who are also very sensitive ('allergic') to EMF and they recovered when they distanced themselves from radio sources:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14887428 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14887428)

The answer is that nobody really knows and you have to make your own call on the risks you want to take in return for the benefits of modern technology.

From what I know which is ridiculously almost nothing. Statistically the level of cancer was average in that studio in Brisbane.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: LePatron7 on February 24, 2013, 07:43:05 pm
but the food is almost certainly the main cause in most cases.

Agreed. I've often wondered how humans would react to certain toxins if they were on a fully raw diet.

For example, would smoking be as harmful as it is to a raw dieter as a cooked food eater? Or would pesticides be as bad?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 24, 2013, 07:54:16 pm
You need to learn about quantum mechanics or you are not going to understand, I do now.

As long as you miss that knowledge it makes zero sense to debate. Library has many books, I read one now from Finnish scientist, a book of the university of Helsinki. It is good!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on February 24, 2013, 08:38:31 pm
Don't worry, Inger, I read plenty about it: Fritjof Capra, Etienne Klein, Stephen Hawking, Jean E. Charon, Arthur Koestler, etc. You can't invoke quantum physics to justify any absurdity like “new age” folks regularly do.

Agreed. I've often wondered how humans would react to certain toxins if they were on a fully raw diet.

For example, would smoking be as harmful as it is to a raw dieter as a cooked food eater? Or would pesticides be as bad?

According to our decades long experience here in Europe, after eating 100 % raw paleo for some months, most people start to react to harmful substances: our immune system gets out of tolerance for toxins and tries to expel them instead of accumulating them. So, you get immediate reactions instead of an accumulation which intoxicates the body bit by bit until a fatal disease happen.

For example, I can’t stand anymore the exhaust of internal combustion engines: I became extremely sensitive to it and it makes me cough. As a truck driver, I breathed too much of it, especially when delivering fuel with the engine running to drive the pump or when backing a trailer under a container. In this case you only have less than one inch lateral and longitudinal tolerance. Looking in the rear view mirrors doesn’t give enough precision, so you’ve got to open the side widow and look directly. As most trucks in Europe still stupidly have a side exhaust, it’s just under your nose. Then, the engine has to be running to drive the air compressor to lift the container by raising the pneumatic suspension. Next you’ve got to do the same with the truck. The whole operation of swapping both containers lasts about one hour with the engine running. Had to stop my job because of that.


Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 24, 2013, 09:39:49 pm
Francois... how can you possibly deny the truth Jack Kruse is shining his light on, then..? Have you really read his blogs from the beginning? Or even any of them, really?
I am stunned...
You understand quantum mechanics but you do not see the danger EMF are to us? You know about Schumann resonance too..?

What if you get sensitive about feeling EMFs if you want (by eating right and avoiding them for example), like you get sensitive to other poison too, if you want to? Like that you can sense them and protect yourself? You say you cannot eat cooked, it makes you you ill... do you get what I try to communicate Francois?
Have you a clue what the massive use of EMFs today is doing to our brains...? According to your knowledge you should know..
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on February 25, 2013, 03:35:03 pm
Inger, we don’t have to delve into quantum physics. It’s much simpler:

- either what my physicist friend says about electromagnetic waves quickly transforming in heat is right and thus what Jack Kruse says about them is delirious and aberrant (my friend’s words);
- or my physicist friend is wrong and Jack Kruse could  perhaps be right somehow about it.

So, please check what happen to EMF after they have been emitted.

Cheers
François
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: ys on February 25, 2013, 11:23:06 pm
Which EMF are we talking about?

Visible light is EMF.  So is ultraviolet and infrared.  Cosmic background radiation is EMF as well.

In any case it looks like the whole spectrum is not an issue.  There are no "bad" frequencies.  It's the intensity that is the problem.  As long as we are not standing next to the source we should be ok.  For cell phones use the headset.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 04, 2013, 04:37:01 pm
Ys,
we (I..lol) are talking about unnatural EMFs. I thought that was clear?  = cellphones, wifi, electricity... you got it? They disturb our ability to sense the earths radiation = Schumann resonance, which we need for all life.... and especially using footwear all the time and much clothes it makes it way worse as we are connected from earth.

It is not only cancer. Those unnatural EMFs are disturbing our senses... they are doing things with our brain.. that when you start recognising it - it is not pretty. Then all of a sudden you understand why people have so hard time changing, and "seeing" today.. it is very tragic actually.

Francois.. by what your friend says I already know he does not understand quantum theory. You need to have a certain openness to get it, it does not help to read if you do not get it deeply, if you hang too much on old ways of thinking (classic physics) you will not understand. Because it is very different to classic physics and needs a gift of leaving things "open". You should read Bohr a little closer, it is absolutely huge what he has figured out and what kind of a mind he had.

- - - - -

I could not bath in my hole last days as it was so cold the ice got so thick I could not break it.. so I rolled in snow instead.

I have started drinking huge amounts of clean well water and seaweed water.. at least the double amount.. It feels great!
I have my grounding rod on every night, it connects me to the waterfall above my bedroom with a copper wire.. I sleep so well, just amazing!
I had it on showering today too..lol I cannot wait for the spring to come, this summer I am going to go way more barefoot... and look if I can get some pure leather sole flip flops to use when in town. I have been tanning naked on the balcony already.. sure it want make you brown yet this far north but I suck up electrons from the sun.. ;)
My life is all about collecting electrons these days..lol

I got my new glasses... (going to wear them only when driving for sure.. I hate looking through lenses!)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2hf48bb.jpg)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 04, 2013, 04:45:57 pm
Don't worry, Inger, I read plenty about it: Fritjof Capra, Etienne Klein, Stephen Hawking, Jean E. Charon, Arthur Koestler, etc. You can't invoke quantum physics to justify any absurdity like “new age” folks regularly do.



Where is Bohr, and Einstein...? Stephen Hawking..? WTH. Now I get why you cannot understand quantum physics...
You need to go to the beginning Francois. You need to real all the history and how it got "invented".
I recommend you to take a look at Einstein and then Bohr.. and then I will tell you more, ok.

There are many scientist that do not get the quantum physics at all. They are not able to think out of the box, and to tolerate the "empty" state of mind that is required to understand this particular issue. They hang way too strong on the traditional way of thinking. Still they use modern technology.. that are all based on and developed with quantum theory.. without it we would not have any computers.. LED lamps.. many things.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 04, 2013, 05:52:57 pm
Inger,
   What do you mean think all new. I assume you mean find a creative way to live healthy, but how do you do it exactly? Would you give an example of a time you, "thought all new" about something that allowed you to life the dream, that brings health and happiness?

Adora sorry I had no time to get into this yet. But now I will try to explain to you what I mean with all new.

It is a "weird" way of "mind exercising" that I have come to realize might make your reality new from one second to another.. All I need to do is emptying myself, totally empty my mind from every opinion and what I knew until today. And remain open at the same time, being able to tolerate a state of "not knowing". You know, if I hang onto what I believed until today, I am closing out the possibility to see totally new ways. Practically it could be..hmmm. Like with my hubs. Instead of trying to frantically figure out what actions to take, which I clearly is not capable of now, I empty myself instead, live second by second, and do exactly how my intuition guides me in each particular moment... without having to know a resolution now. I remain open to answers, and I give up my old ways of judging things.
Instead I concentrate on what I can do for me, and I learn to care. When it comes to work and such, I have totally different goals now than for a year ago. So my actions fit my goals and that is what directs me to what to do. It is actually very easy. I guess the most important thing is to know where your goal is first and then empty one self for answers. They will come. Because life truly is magic when eyes and ears and heart remain open... and our 6th sense strengthens.
I am not saying every second of the day is pure joy...lol there are moments when I feel not that way too, but most of the day is. So I never despair because I know the heavy moments lasts only a short while.
OMG I bet my post makes zero sense... -X but hopefully you can feel what I try to say.

The Webinar I have to re-listen too and then summarize for you, I will try to, but until then the main message in my head from the webinar is still; Women are delicate... we must care very well for us. We are so much more sensible to EMFs, circadian disruptions, stress, food choices etc than men.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 04, 2013, 06:08:59 pm
You can't invoke quantum physics to justify any absurdity like “new age” folks regularly do.



I just needed to say I understand your point of view too Francois.
It is because many out there truly misuse the deep stuff, and makes it feel all yucky. I have close people in my life that do just that and it is sad. They pretend to understand the deepest things but their actions are not following, they are smelly and filthy and live like parasites in the community, unable to care for others feelings.. adding burdens to others shoulders instead of offering help.
It is sad. But we need to look above that. There are and will always be people misusing theories. I bet Jesus would turn in he's grave too if he knew what is done in the name of the bible and him. Also Newton I bet turns in his grave if he could realize, the followers had picked only certain part of he's theories and left the other part behind.. = that is what lead to the classical physics. He was further. But what can you do when you are dead, and other use/misuse your findings?

Maybe I need to tell you I really dislike any "new age" stuff and always have.

Maybe this helps you see where I am coming from? A quote from Jacks latest Blogpost, a question and he's answer.
http://www.jackkruse.com/quantum-biology-1-the-zero-entropy-system/#idc-cover (http://www.jackkruse.com/quantum-biology-1-the-zero-entropy-system/#idc-cover)

D Ray;
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I'm trying to reconcile the "Placebo effect" (Sheldrak) and "Changing your cells environment" (Lipton via different petrie dishes) from the video linked at the end of this blog.

I would rather change my cells envirnonment rather than "thinking" I can heal myself. "Thinking/believing" EMF's will not harm me does not sound plausible for me as a health solution.

But maybe, the placebo effect is increased as we change our envirnoment with one reinforcing the other as we do better.

Jack;
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D Ray..........I have a more fundamental belief........if you understand that QED changes your present condition to stop quantum time from stealing your life force........you wont have to worry about the rest..........once you fix this........your intuition and spirituality comes back.........when one begins they are usually so depleted that they are just hanging on............there is a time and place for everything.........I say stick with the hard science and then you can take it to its nth degree if you like........Einstein actually rejected his own creation in the 1940's and 50's and part of the reason why he never unified general and special relativity.

(QED = quantum electrodynamic theory)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: RogueFarmer on March 04, 2013, 10:46:01 pm
I get very mild dull pain from using cell phones. Some are worse than others. Actually had pain from a wall phone too. Speakerphone is almost a necessity.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: ys on March 05, 2013, 04:26:34 am
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There are many scientist that do not get the quantum physics at all.

No one understands it completely.  If someone claims they understand quantum physics they are quacks.
I would not cite quantum physics as explanation of everyday things and phenomenons.  It opens more questions than it solves.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on March 05, 2013, 04:52:05 am
Exactly, that's what I was about to answer.

I wrote previously in this thread that I don't pretend to understand quantum physics. I did read books about it, but still I don't understand it in the way I understand how a Diesel engine or an automatic transmission works.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on March 05, 2013, 05:06:58 am
Inger, we don’t have to delve into quantum physics. It’s much simpler:

- either what my physicist friend says about electromagnetic waves quickly transforming in heat is right and thus what Jack Kruse says about them is delirious and aberrant (my friend’s words);
- or my physicist friend is wrong and Jack Kruse could  perhaps be right somehow about it.

So, please check what happen to EMF after they have been emitted.

Nothing else, Inger, please check that. That's all and that's enough.

But again, I agree that staying for long periods near a strong EMF source (cell phone close to the ear, WiFi transmitter-receiver) should be avoided as much as possible. My home computer and phones are all wired.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 05, 2013, 03:40:47 pm
No one understands it completely.  If someone claims they understand quantum physics they are quacks.
I would not cite quantum physics as explanation of everyday things and phenomenons.  It opens more questions than it solves.

Hmmm... I thought that was clear as we speak about quantum theory... ;)

Actually.. a great scientist always has many questions and never settles.. never get stuck to a dogma... but is capable of holding an open mind
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 05, 2013, 03:48:48 pm
Nothing else, Inger, please check that. That's all and that's enough.

But again, I agree that staying for long periods near a strong EMF source (cell phone close to the ear, WiFi transmitter-receiver) should be avoided as much as possible. My home computer and phones are all wired.

Of course I have checked that Francois.
You are clever living in a wired environment. Now try to limit all EMF exposure, also from electricity and you are even cleverer! But maybe you already do that.  :) I do was already thinking you live quite in the nature with limited EMF exposure because you do well (at least that is my impression.. ;) ).
I bet we are playing on the same strings in the end.  :)

Also.. not to forget, people react very differently to EMFs. It depends on so many thing in our body how bad it impacts us. Sure, they are not good for anyone, but someone can get along with quite a big amount and be quite ok and others health suffers terribly.

You know Francois.. to live in the city today is a really bad choise.
I measured with my meter in the city as i went to work.. and many places the radiation was so strong it was way over 100 milligauss.. just outside ON THE STREET! that is the max on my meter. Over 3 milligauss is dangerous to our health, but we should aim at as close to 0 as it gets of course. Imagine those living in the city 24/7.... in addition all the wifi's what my meter cannot measure.... but you van check your computer and how many connections are where you live..... you will get shocked when in the city. On the countryside it is often 0, at least here where i live. A wifi radiates effectively about 100 meter said my brother. He is studying that stuff right now (engineer) so he knows.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on March 05, 2013, 04:10:21 pm
Hmmm... I thought that was clear as we speak about quantum theory... ;)

Actually.. a great scientist always has many questions and never settles.. never get stuck to a dogma... but is capable of holding an open mind
Sure, but ys was apparently referring to your claim that you understand quantum theory while we (or my physicist friend and I) don’t.

Of course I have checked that Francois.
And what have you found out?

If the EMF are fast disappearing in heat, it won’t last to infinity and Jack Kruse is telling bullshit. So, please keep an open mind and consider the possibility that Jack Kruse is a quack, at least in this field. 
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 05, 2013, 07:11:54 pm
Francois,
it is fine by me if you think Jack is a quack. I do not. I am not here to try to convince anyone (I have better things to do with my time  ;) ), we can all think for ourselves and if interested we can research.  :)
That is the way I do it and I recommend it to everyone, always research yourself. Be aware of dogma.

Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on March 05, 2013, 07:16:46 pm
Until I was 18 years old I lived with my family in a house that is about 10 meters from high power electrical wires. So the wires were exactly above the garden. This place where we lived was probably never planned for houses, as the power line was going straight through the village.. Anyway, I'm still alive and healthy and so is everyone else. For many people the wires are going exactly above their homes, we had the possibility to build the house a few meters away.

In the garden we have a bunch of trees; as they grow high they get very near the wires and even touch them, and then at the top in the part which is like half a meter from the wire would be dead. But below they are perfectly fine, and they give plenty tasty fruits every year. If the EMF was that dangerous for people, shouldn't it also affect the plants too? Because it certainly didn't affect them much, only when they get extremely close to the high power line.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 05, 2013, 07:32:25 pm
Trees are earthed, with their roots deep in the ground. Earthing protects against EMF. The more you earth = touch the ground with bare feet or skin (or pure leather soles) the less the EMF's are going to hurt you..

Do you get the connection now, why modern life is so bad?
We are almost 100% of the time disconnected from earth.. and we have created massive amounts of unnatural EMFs.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on March 05, 2013, 08:14:32 pm
Over 3 milligauss is dangerous to our health, but we should aim at as close to 0 as it gets of course.
It is not proven that it would be dangerous, only that it would be over what's typically found inside houses.

So plants are earthed and that's why it doesn't affect them.. I don't know if it's true or not, but let's say it is. Next question :) As I said, high power lines are going just above the heads of many people that I personally know. Nevertheless, all of them are perfectly normal, i.e. not any less healthy or less happy than people with much less EMF exposure. How do we explain this?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 05, 2013, 08:18:40 pm
Just a fast note before rushing to work.. for Francois. You might not know this, but I have read every single blog from Jack close to 2 years now, and every single comment too. I am deeply impressed. I have tested the stuff out too, all the way. I understand without doing that homework it might be hard to grasp...
Do I think Jack is a God that never fail? No... lol.  In my veins flows the blood of a Viking and I assure you.. they are pretty wild.  >D
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 05, 2013, 08:22:17 pm
It is not proven that it would be dangerous, only that it would be over what's typically found inside houses.

So plants are earthed and that's why it doesn't affect them.. I don't know if it's true or not, but let's say it is. Next question :) As I said, high power lines are going just above the heads of many people that I personally know. Nevertheless, all of them are perfectly normal, i.e. not any less healthy or less happy than people with much less EMF exposure. How do we explain this?

You need to do the homework yourself my dear. No way have I time to explain, I am sorry. I need to rush now but I said in a previous post, EMFs are not going to affect 1 human in the same way than another. And everythings adds... no way to tell without being conscious and measuring and connecting dots. Can we say crap food is good because many lives on it and remain healthy? No. The same way we need to look at the EMFs. Fact is, people get sicker and sicker today.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 05, 2013, 10:09:36 pm
Trees are earthed, with their roots deep in the ground. Earthing protects against EMF. The more you earth = touch the ground with bare feet or skin (or pure leather soles) the less the EMF's are going to hurt you..

Do you get the connection now, why modern life is so bad?
We are almost 100% of the time disconnected from earth.. and we have created massive amounts of unnatural EMFs.

Wow, pure leather soles means I will be grounded all the time?
That is big news to me.
I just happen to know a custom leather maker who makes pure leather shoes too.
Super expensive, but if you say they make you grounded all the time, then that is for me.
Take a deep breath and spend.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: dogman333 on March 05, 2013, 11:21:13 pm
For those more curious about the grounding/EMF issues, I made this short summary video on the grounding aspect:
http://youtu.be/1qSAZXjOo9g (http://youtu.be/1qSAZXjOo9g)

I made this to share with my friends. Though it may not be as scientific as some would prefer, I hope it speaks to common sense that there is something to this.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: eveheart on March 05, 2013, 11:35:19 pm
Wow, pure leather soles means I will be grounded all the time?
That is big news to me.
I just happen to know a custom leather maker who makes pure leather shoes too.
Super expensive, but if you say they make you grounded all the time, then that is for me.
Take a deep breath and spend.

Not all the time! Just when you are on the earth's surface or on a surface that is grounded to the earth's surface. Leather soles do not insulate the way synthetic or rubber soles do.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: ys on March 06, 2013, 12:41:51 am
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I measured with my meter in the city as i went to work

Can you tell more about your meter?

On a side note do you think Bogdanoff brothers are pure geniuses that no one understands or are they simply charlatans?
Here is one of their papers
http://cds.cern.ch/record/478699/files/ext-2000-228.pdf?version=1 (http://cds.cern.ch/record/478699/files/ext-2000-228.pdf?version=1)

This should be a very interesting read for someone who is well versed in quantum mechanics.
 
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: cherimoya_kid on March 06, 2013, 08:30:15 am
  In my veins flows the blood of a Viking and I assure you.. they are pretty wild.  >D

Well, in my veins flows the blood of someone who needs more proof.

Look, EM radiation covers a HUGE spectrum of frequencies, from radio waves to visible light and beyond.  If there were some kind of huge health epidemic resulting from this, then it would have already shown itself. Scientists would already be publishing peer-reviewed studies on it. I'm not saying it's a good idea to talk on a cell phone for hours a day. However, I'd be willing to bet that, in the great majority of cases, people who eat a raw paleo-ish diet are going to be mostly unaffected by the usual amounts of EM radiation in their lives.

I'm a little suprised to hear this coming from a low-carber.  Most of the time it's the raw vegans who get too sensitive to live in the rough and tumble everyday world, in my experience.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 06, 2013, 02:22:34 pm
For those more curious about the grounding/EMF issues, I made this short summary video on the grounding aspect:
http://youtu.be/1qSAZXjOo9g (http://youtu.be/1qSAZXjOo9g)

I made this to share with my friends. Though it may not be as scientific as some would prefer, I hope it speaks to common sense that there is something to this.

Great video Dogman, it summarizes it nicely!
I have my home made copper rod ground grounded into the waterfall behind my bedroom that is in second floor. I use it all nite long and also when on the computer and in the shower too, it is pretty long. My sleep has gotten even better..
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 06, 2013, 02:27:04 pm
Not all the time! Just when you are on the earth's surface or on a surface that is grounded to the earth's surface. Leather soles do not insulate the way synthetic or rubber soles do.

Yes, Eveheart so true. Also asphalt prevents the grounding effect... in the city it is everywhere! Concrete is better. According to my electrician brother you can still get some grounding effect through your concrete floor if it is directly on the ground and no plastic or other insulating stuff used.

@ GS,
if you let your leather soles get a bit wet it is even better! The moister the better the grounding!  :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 06, 2013, 02:41:28 pm
Well, in my veins flows the blood of someone who needs more proof.

Then it is time for you to do research and your own N=1. I am not here to convince anyone, just to report what have been of a value to me.  ;)

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I'm a little suprised to hear this coming from a low-carber.  Most of the time it's the raw vegans who get too sensitive to live in the rough and tumble everyday world, in my experience.

You are right about that the folks living in the carb-burning pathway will suffer much more from EMF.
When you eat lots and lots of fat, a diet loaded with CoEnQ10, Iodine, Magnesium... etc and drink lots of clean well water you have a pretty good protection. Is EMF good for us still? No. Of course not. That is why I do changes, I am not ill, at least not in a common sense of thinking, but I always think what gains can I still make. To me limiting my EMF exposure means huge gains. I am not fretting over stuff I cannot change, like I have to work and I have to have a cellphone because that is how I get my calls for work (mostly through sms) but there is A LOT I can do and that is where I look.

I can choose a work place that have less EMF pollution. I can choose to live on a place with less of it too.
I can;
-ditch my laptop and use all wired instead
-never use wifi, Iphone
-minimize the use of electric devices
-minimize use of cellphone
-do as much earthing as possible
-eat a keto diet with loads of good fat and loads of seafood....

and there is a lot more.....

You need to go further Cherimoya Kid than what main-stream is publishing. I thought you knew that? What scientist publish might have nothing to do with the truth..
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 06, 2013, 02:51:08 pm
Can you tell more about your meter?

On a side note do you think Bogdanoff brothers are pure geniuses that no one understands or are they simply charlatans?
Here is one of their papers
http://cds.cern.ch/record/478699/files/ext-2000-228.pdf?version=1 (http://cds.cern.ch/record/478699/files/ext-2000-228.pdf?version=1)

This should be a very interesting read for someone who is well versed in quantum mechanics.
 

I will look into the Bogdanoff brothers when I have time and report, ok! I am no expert yet..lol I am just grasping the  big picture slowly. I am using what limited time I have to learn more about it but I can tell it is time consuming...

This is my meter;

(http://i47.tinypic.com/282j5tu.gif)

You can google it if you like. It is a pretty simple one but enough for me.  :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 06, 2013, 02:57:26 pm
I just needed to add,
the worse off your body is, your hormones, your HS CRP, Vit D... the more dehydrated you are.. the less connected with earth... etc. the worse EMFs are going to affect you.
It is best to go and check ones labs and then one knows where to start. That is what I do. I need scientific facts for sure. Labs tell you A LOT.

The EMF issue is exploding because it has gotten so much more in just a few years. That is why it will soon be not pretty...
Only the thing about smart meters.. they are installed EVERYWHERE. They are pulsed EMF, which is really bad for us as it is completely unnatural. Since the smart meter got installed I have had mornings where I wake up with a very slight headache, I never had that before. It has helped almost 100% to drink huge amounts of water, I bet the grounding has helped too!

I am fighting though... ;) Getting a filter and I am going to get it removed too it is just I need to pay for it.. I do not have the money yet.

There is a lot more, I am just learning. Jack is releasing he's  EMF RX soon and and then I will know more.
I then will share in my journal for sure maybe someone can gain something from it!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on March 06, 2013, 03:48:06 pm
Of course I have checked that Francois.
Yeah? And what have you found out? Do electromagnetic waves quickly transform into heat as the physicist says or do they last eternally as Jack Kruse says?

You’ve continuously sidestepped this question, which is the key one.
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You are clever living in a wired environment.
It’s just as a precaution. Can’t we agree that it could be not good to remain lengthily very near a strong continuously emitting EMF source, but as the intensity of the field decrease with the square of the distance, it becomes totally harmless as soon as you get a bit away?   

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You know Francois.. to live in the city today is a really bad choise.
I measured with my meter in the city as i went to work.. and many places the radiation was so strong it was way over 100 milligauss.. just outside ON THE STREET! that is the max on my meter. Over 3 milligauss is dangerous to our health, but we should aim at as close to 0 as it gets of course. Imagine those living in the city 24/7.... in addition all the wifi's what my meter cannot measure.... but you van check your computer and how many connections are where you live..... you will get shocked when in the city. On the countryside it is often 0, at least here where i live. A wifi radiates effectively about 100 meter said my brother. He is studying that stuff right now (engineer) so he knows.
The atmospheric pollution is by far the main health hazard in cities and there are many other nuisances in our homes (radon, fiberglass insulation, toxic wood preservatives and paints, etc.)  which are much more detrimental than ordinary electromagnetic fields.

BTW, I’m looking forward for your comments on the Bogdanoff’s paper kindly linked by ys. 
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 06, 2013, 04:36:36 pm
Francois,
you clearly have made up your mind already about the issue. I am not into discussions when mind is already closed, that I can tell you.
You are very right about the fact, the closer to the man made EMF source, the worse. Harmless as you go a bit away...? What is a bit away to you Francois?
I have also never said other nuisances are without importance, have I?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: CitrusHigh on March 06, 2013, 06:31:52 pm
Nothing else, Inger, please check that. That's all and that's enough.

But again, I agree that staying for long periods near a strong EMF source (cell phone close to the ear, WiFi transmitter-receiver) should be avoided as much as possible. My home computer and phones are all wired.

Why are you nitpicking on one little issue Francois when you know that no one is correct 100% of the time? It is undeniable that these 'fake' waves affect us. Not only do we all have delicate oscillators, but we've also got magnetite which is sensitive to emr as well.

Coincidentally I've been listening to a book called 'sync' about oscillators in natural systems that govern bioprocesses. These oscillators if I understood correctly are present in every single cell in every single organism and are responsible for your circadian rhythm and all it's implications. Something like that would be awfully easy to disrupt with EMR!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 06, 2013, 06:37:30 pm
Here I am again. I should learn for my drivers license but darn.. I could not have less motivation..  -X

Francois are you aware of the Schumann resonance? If not check this ling, and play the short video in the right upper corner.. there you see how it works, it is a video from NASA so no quack. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances)

It is beautiful isn't it? Now, the resonance is at a extremely low frequency, in between 7 and 33 Hz. Then, check at what frequencies our radios, cellphones etc operate..
The Schumann resonance is vital for all life on earth. Now think about how much all those man made, way stronger waves that are all over in the modern world today do.. they makes us unable to sense the Schumann anymore....! We proudly use our rubber soled shoes all time outside, we sit indoors most of the time.. getting bombarded with man made EMFs.. we are as disconnected as it gets. Do you still wonder whats up with peoples mental state? Have you been observing people?

Sensing the Schumann resonance is needed for our 6th sense, for our instincts to work properly. Do you still wonder why people struggle so much with that?

If I were you I would not be nitpicking about what Jack maybe got wrong (maybe - we all get something wrong at times) but what he got right instead. Because that is huge. Without him I would never have realized stuff I do today, and have put into practice and already gained lots of benefit. Stuff like circadian biology, eating seasonal according to what grows where you live, etc. I would still have believed it is fine to eat dates in the ice cold winter. Where did my instincts go? Why couldn't I figure that out with my intuition? Because it was so destroyed and needs to get built up, and that is what I do now. I can already sense more.

I think I can sense/hear the resonance too.. IDK but as I looked at the video in the link above I could feel the connection above that sea of waves and the music I often hear inside of me lately. It is not loud or like music we make, it is more like a hum somehow.. like the sound of a waterfall.. so beautiful it makes me feel so very happy! But it is so silent it is almost not noticeable if I do not listen.
Maybe it is all the raw oysters I have been eating...lol
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on March 07, 2013, 03:33:51 am
Francois,
you clearly have made up your mind already about the issue. I am not into discussions when mind is already closed, that I can tell you.
You are very right about the fact, the closer to the man made EMF source, the worse. Harmless as you go a bit away...? What is a bit away to you Francois?
I have also never said other nuisances are without importance, have I?
No, you didn’t but you’re currently completely focalized about this single remote question, which you tremendously overemphasize.

I’ve seen it before with other persons: they get overwhelmed with something that could perhaps be a minor nuisance and then start to think that it must be the root cause of most  health problems. Or they start to believe in some expensive magical or pseudoscientific device sold by charlatans that is said to be able to resolve most health problem. Then there’s no way whatsoever to convince these persons of their error.

No, my mind is open about this and it’s rather yours which is completely made up and closed. I don’t know, these things are outside my field of knowledge. So, when I’m incompetent on a topic, I try to find an expert and in this case I knew one and asked him. I gave you his answer but, as expected, you pretended that he’s wrong – you questioned his understanding of quantum physics, even pretending that yourself understand it! Frankly, that’s the first time I hear somebody pretend to understand it better than a professional physicist.   

Why are you nitpicking on one little issue Francois when you know that no one is correct 100% of the time?
This “little issue” is nothing less than to know if “the Earth is loosing its magnetic field” as Inger wrote. Well, that would be something flabbergasting that I had never heard of. It would need to be the  greatest conspiracy of all time  involving most of the scientists on the planet who would have tightly kept this great secret. 
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 07, 2013, 02:46:23 pm
In my hurry I did not find the original site but this has to do.

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Earth's magnetic field is changing in other ways, too: Compass needles in Africa, for instance, are drifting about 1 degree per decade. And globally the magnetic field has weakened 10% since the 19th century. When this was mentioned by researchers at a recent meeting of the American Geophysical Union, many newspapers carried the story. A typical headline: "Is Earth's magnetic field collapsing?"

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/29dec_magneticfield/ (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/29dec_magneticfield/)

Less magnetism means something for us. The magnetism changes all the time on earth. It looses and gains it and looses it...
 I am not going to explain more to you Francois you are going to have do the homework yourself. Maybe ask you Physic friend. ;)
I always check things myself and do not rely on "friends" opinion BTW. Never. They could as well be wrong. To be a Physic is no guarantee you got things right. And I have not said I am an expert and understand everything either. You continue to put words in my mouth and it tires me out Francois.

A small question for you; When does a radio wave stop? How long is it exactly?

As far as my research go, they are detectable pretty far, it depends on the waves strenght... But even if a wifi is usable only in a 100 meter radius does not mean it stops abrupt there.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on March 07, 2013, 03:06:35 pm

I’ve seen it before with other persons: they get overwhelmed with something that could perhaps be a minor nuisance and then start to think that it must be the root cause of most  health problems. Or they start to believe in some expensive magical or pseudoscientific device sold by charlatans that is said to be able to resolve most health problem. Then there’s no way whatsoever to convince these persons of their error.

No, my mind is open about this and it’s rather yours which is completely made up and closed.

Francois? What's up with you...? My mind is completely made up and closed? I am learning so much new things ALL the time Francois, how does that fit with the thing to have a closen mind? It does not fit at all I will tell you. Closen minds do not learn. They do as they always have done. They believe in their dogma and do not change. I change so many things all the way long.
Why are you wanting to fight me Francois? Why?
What can be bad about limiting EMF exposure...? Tell me that, please. HOW can it possibly be wrong. My own N=1, I feel better when I do. I bet every being alive on earth will. No one feel good sitting in front of the TV or computer, being awake with fake lights late in the night... separated from the nature and the Schumann resonance. Is that what you try to tell me, that to do that is just fine for our health? What are you trying to say exactly Francois.
You know what? I often feel like you want to pull me down. When I have found a beautiful thing you want to make it ugly. Why is that. I do not understand you Francois, I really do not.
I would, if I was feeling unwell and complaining when doing it. But I feel great, this stuff I am doing makes me feel amazing! I am not going the anti social, conspiracy road, I love social life I have a fun work and I have it nice with my family. Why are you still hitting me down?

Why are you seeming so resistant to change? You should not, as an instincto!

To clarify if it is not clear for you. I am NOT thinking EMFs are the root of ALL problems. Why do you think I eat a  very tight diet with almost only wild and raw foods? And have a strict circadian hygiene? And go dipping in my ice hole every day, tanning naked, looking in the sun... etc? If I thought EMFs were the root to all bad? Francois I am disappointed with you, I really am.

To me it seems you do not really read what I am writing, or you are totally unaware of what you write.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on March 07, 2013, 04:19:17 pm
Hi Inger,

You don’ have to get angry with me, we just have a civil debate (even if I get somewhat exasperated). That’s what a forum is intended for, isn’t it?

Thanks for the link. Yes, the Earth magnetic field moves and shifts (I knew a bit about that), but the article doesn’t say it’s due to man-made EMFs.
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Scientists have long known that the magnetic pole moves. James Ross located the pole for the first time in 1831 after an exhausting arctic journey during which his ship got stuck in the ice for four years. No one returned until the next century. In 1904, Roald Amundsen found the pole again and discovered that it had moved--at least 50 km since the days of Ross.

The pole kept going during the 20th century, north at an average speed of 10 km per year, lately accelerating "to 40 km per year," says Newitt. At this rate it will exit North America and reach Siberia in a few decades.
(…)
Sometimes the field completely flips. The north and the south poles swap places. Such reversals, recorded in the magnetism of ancient rocks, are unpredictable. They come at irregular intervals averaging about 300,000 years; the last one was 780,000 years ago. Are we overdue for another? No one knows.

Sure, we shouldn’t rely on friends' opinion, I agree. But when we are incompetent in a field, we have to rely on someone competent in that field. It’s like that in science and technology: modern knowledge is very specialized, compartmented. 

For the last 10 years I’ve been an automotive tech writer specialized in engines, transmissions, tires, etc. I struggle to keep up with the innovations and keep my knowledge a bit up to date, but there’s much more that I don’t know than I know. We have contacts with engineers and sometimes we ask them questions. Often their answer is “that, I don’t know, it’s not in my field: you have to ask my colleague, there”. So do I and I trust the answer of the specialist just like an engineer trusts the knowledge of his colleague specialized in a different field. But it doesn’t mean that we have to buy into everything without a critical examination.

Have a good day
F
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Suiren on March 09, 2013, 06:15:56 am
Wow, pure leather soles means I will be grounded all the time?
That is big news to me.
I just happen to know a custom leather maker who makes pure leather shoes too.
Super expensive, but if you say they make you grounded all the time, then that is for me.
Take a deep breath and spend.

Real leather shoes with leather soles are much more affordable from reenactment sites. Staring at 25 Eur here for roman sandals that were also worn in the early middleages, and I have seen late medieval boots and flats for starting price 70 Eur a pair.
You can also make certain styles yourself easily.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on September 15, 2013, 08:40:08 pm
Time for an update  :)

I have been in Norway the last month, and will stay until mid October. I work in home health care. So much to learn, and pretty scary stuff too. I have been taking care of a patient in he's home that has ALS in endstage, he can only move he's eyes, nothing else, uses respirator and get the food in a tube in he's stomach. Scary stuff he get for food, ultrapasteurized, mainly chicken and pea protein, vegetable oils.... surrounded with high EMF 24/7. I get such strong urge to take him in my arms, to touch him, take him out, feed him RAF and get sunlight and earthing. But I cannot.  -[ Very tough for me.

I sleep in a tent in my sisters yard. Right by the forest under a hazelnut tree. I LOVE to sleep there, I sleep so well, I love to here the wind in the trees/leaves... I have all doors wide open to feel the wind on my skin too. Now I have buyed a magnetico mattress too! A 10 gauss mattress. I already feel the craving when comes evening... to lay down on it. I feel heavier, even more relaxed. I am so curious to see how it will affect me. I am feeling great so I really do not know what could improve, but sure there is always something... ;)

For CT I just do cold showers every day, pretty short ones as the water is not really cold anyways, and I go to the ocean close to here and take a dip for a few minutes, or I walk at the beach with my feets in the water. Awesome. Makes me feel so energized, like my batteries get charged. If I am exhausted from work and bike down to the beach and lay in the water for a while, I feel like new. Brand new. It is crazy.. :) One day I took a pic, my pregnant sister that owns this house was with me - you see her in the picture;

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2d1pj41.jpg)

Another beach not far from here, where me and my younger sister picks oysters, look at thoes beauty's!

(http://i41.tinypic.com/5ml8qa.jpg)

Sometimes I take my oyster knife with me and eat them right there. I just love them.

IDK I think I have gained some weight. I do not weigh tho. But I am pretty happy how I keep it without any exercise at all. And I do eat pretty much! My cellulite is pretty nonexistent too. I always plan to start exercising but then life comes in my way..lol

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2drhu6s.jpg)

I see forward to the winter in cold Finland with plenty of snow. It has its own magic. So dark and so cold. I so miss it. Then I will start some serious CT. And with my magnetico pad... it is going to be very intresting! I have been reading about how it increases circulation, so I am so exited if I will tolerate the cold even better.  :) My hands and feet still get pretty cold, sometimes even whitish, huh! If I am longer in the water.

But yeah, otherwise I feel just great! No pain, not tired, no issues....  :) I have been eating plums from the yard and they gave me some candida between my toe me thinks, at least it itched. So I think cultivated fruits are a no go for me. I can eat as much wild berries I want without any issues though, I have been gorging on raspberries and blackberries and lingonberries. Now I eat aronias (chokeberries) every day a handful. I love hem too.

I think my hormones are doing great too.... ;) I am not going to tell why...lol (and no, no boyfriend  ;))



Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: jessica on September 15, 2013, 10:32:19 pm
Wow, I am glad your personal living situation is so amazing, I am sure it helps to get on the ground and get into the ocean after EMF exposure.  I wish you could help your old man patient too, I am sure that gets very frustrating! 

I love your gentle treatment of life though, very graceful :) That water also looks so clear where you get the oysters!

Your legs and butt look good too, nothing worse then a scrawny booty or thighs!  You are still very slim, great idea not to weight, I think it causes more psychological problems then its worth and weight is not an accurate indicator of health. 

I am sure that the CT and maybe adding some fats and muscles has done a lot to enhance your hormones, as those necessary fatty acids are hormone signalers in and of themselves.  But, I think I get what you mean, do you notice especially during certain times of the moon?  Being female is certainly interesting ;)  Do you think that being around a pregnant sister and also if you are there when she had the baby has had any effect on your hormones? 

Update us on the magnet mat, if dreams or sleeping changes?  What is the purpose?  Does it change your interaction with the earth?  I lovelovelove laying on the earth, I don't sleep out right now but lay at least and hour or two a day under a fig tree, I look up and the leaves are like healing hands hovering over me !
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on September 15, 2013, 10:58:25 pm
Jessica, I have not paid attention to the moon influence on my hormones yet.. except I want my period to follow the moon! I just got it a few days ago, and that was about a week after full moon so I am getting pretty close to where I want to be. :)
Have you experienced anything intresting? I can feel men very strong. Yesterday I was shopping. There seldom is any men of interest to me, but all of a sudden he was there walking in front of me with he's girlfriend. Holy moly I could feel the testosteron just from looking at he's back... At one point he turned around and looked at me. Wow. Our eyes met.. the energy was so freaking strong I had to look down fast and "escaped" because it was almost too much, huh. The few seconds made me crazy full of energy....?! Too weird, lol But who needs a boyfriend when you get those moments? ;)

The magnetico matress is a great tool to recover from todays masssive EMF pollution. It is a whole science behind. I have been reading a lot about it, and that is why I choose to buy one even if they cost around 1000 dollar + shipment.
It is about the same effect you get when you lay under that fig tree  :) Very clever of you btw. Do not forget to take off your shoes if you wear any, and touch the ground at the same time. :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 16, 2013, 02:10:28 am
Refreshing update!

Where did you buy your magnetico matress ?

Any links to websites about magnetico matress ?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on September 16, 2013, 01:43:08 pm

Where did you buy your magnetico matress ?

Any links to websites about magnetico matress ?


From http://magneticosleep.com/ (http://magneticosleep.com/) They are the most expensive but I do not trust any other. You find a lot of info on that side. I bet you are not going to regret it if you buy one. On Jack Kruse's forum there are many who have one by now, and their experienses are pretty awesome!  :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Haai on September 16, 2013, 11:59:13 pm
Inger, did you get your tan just from sunbathing in Finland?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Barefoot Instincto on September 17, 2013, 01:31:16 am
Yeah I wouldn't worry about the way you look Inger. You're as attractive as any woman I've seen, so whatever you're doing, you're doing it right. You look like you stay plenty active enough.

What I wouldn't give to have you come stay with me in Vancouver, Canada. ;) I'm sure I'd learn a lot from you about primal living.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on October 08, 2013, 09:10:05 pm
Haai, yes I just tan naturally outside always when I can! I am addicted to the sun..lol I never burn anymore either, because I start tanning early spring when here is still snow, and slowly build up my color and protection.

BF, thank you. Canada must be a great place to live... at least if you live close to the wild  :)

- - - -

I am back in Finland. River was feeling so cold at 5 degree C, I was used to the 13 degrees in Norway. Now it has warmed up though, it was 9 degree today! I take just short dips, and do it more often instead. The dips do need to be a minute or two or I will not feel the effect as well.

I left my magnetico mattress in Norway, way too heavy to take with me on the flight, but will get it here in 2 weeks. I cannot wait, I really miss it. I miss sleeping in a tent too. I might do it here, my tent comes with my mattress together and then I am going to put it up in the garden close to the river and try sleeping in it again.

Feels good to be home too, though. I do think the coast of Norway where I spent my time, is a healthier climate than here. I could see it on the people there, they looked healthier and was less overweight. And they eat maybe a even worse diet. Pretty interesting. Norway has no smart meters yet either... and I have the feeling Finns are even more technology addicted... -[

I am not planning to stay here for long though just over the winter. I need to go somewhere.. away from smart meters... close to the ocean.. with great ocean foods. I am thinking about Germany. I loved to live by Hamburg. Nice food availability too. If I could speak French the coast of France would be just a dream. A friend of mine that was there told me he got a bucket full of oysters by the beach, for just about 10 or 20 €. A bucket full!!!! I need to live by a place like that. But thankfully I can order them here too, I just have money only for 13/week. I would like to eat that amount/day instead.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: van on October 08, 2013, 10:45:04 pm
French is one of the easier languages to learn.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: TylerDurden on October 09, 2013, 04:15:01 am
The best place in France for raw shellfish is Brittany. They have the 2nd biggest shellfish in the world. Only a part of Canada has even bigger shellfish. This has to do with the size of the tides. The bigger the difference between high and low tide, the bigger the shellfish.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Iguana on October 09, 2013, 05:27:16 am
Yes, and in Brittany you don't even have to pay for oysters: there are plenty of excellent and huge wild ones in some bays. It only requires some trekking.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Dr. D on October 09, 2013, 10:24:49 am
One thing I've never mentioned, Inger, is my dad's family is from Sweden and Finland. I have and know family from Umea, Sweden and they have a summer house in Finland they stay at frequently. So in some small way we are kind of connected :D ;)

If I ever get a chance to go visit them I'll be sure to let you know and we may be able to meet up! I was thinking of trying a trip this summer.

I suspect something about the Finns and their poor health may be partially due to healthcare availability, my family says it's bad. They also seem to rely on it too much, rather than deciding to take health into their own hands. Plus, the Finns are not social enough! They are so cold, not friendly at all. I can say that, my Grandpa almost never said he loved us. They don't share in love enough and that's hard on the spirit.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on October 09, 2013, 01:04:18 pm
Dr.D you need to tell me if you come, would be so fun to share some meals and be out in the wild  :)
What you say about the Finns is correct. They are pretty unsocial, but they are kind when you first get warmed up. It just takes forever..lol Healthcare is also very bad, true. It is for free, but doctors are very uneducated. So different than in Germany. Great docs there.

I want to move to Brittany now......... everything is possible  :) I think French is the most beautiful language!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: cavebiatch on December 28, 2013, 04:23:32 pm
Inger, what got you into raw paleo? Surely you did not always eat this way? How long were you raw paleo?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Chris on January 24, 2014, 12:19:44 pm
I want to move to Brittany now......... everything is possible  :) I think French is the most beautiful language!

If I had a choice I think I'd move to France also! It's such a beautiful country. Just have to get started on my French! lol  ;D

BTW I think you look great. You don't look like someone who doesn't exercise. I guess it's all in the genes. Whatever you're doing, it's working for you. Keep it up.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on January 25, 2014, 01:02:25 am
Inger, what got you into raw paleo? Surely you did not always eat this way? How long were you raw paleo?

Hi Cavebiatch and sorry for replaying so late! got so busy lately... I have stepped into construction business lately... I know, weird! Being one of the owners and so much to learn.

I started raw paleo many years ago... with a heavy fruit and veggie and nuts based diet. Not totally vegan but almost. I do had some meat and fish once in the while in the beginning too. Maybe it is 7 years ago or so? Then after a few years on that very expensive diet my financial situation went very bad and I had no money for the expensive tree ripened organic raw exotic fruits I thought was the only road to heaven. So I had to figure out something else. I found zero carb.. and gave it a try. Raw. Costs almost the half of my previous WOE. Here I am today.  ;)
I never went back to fruits as I noticed more benefits from the ketogenic WOE. So I am almost only RAF for maybe 4 years?  I do eat as much seasonal wild carbs as I want. Veggies from my parents garden too in summer... I love the cucumbers! And some other stuff like 100% chocolate occasionally. I am not religiously raw. I sometimes eat precooked mussels cold, or a steak just warmed in the pan, bluer than blue. But mostly I eat everything raw and it makes me feel awesome! Yeah.. I really feel as well as when I was a kid  ;D

@ Chris,
I actually started exercising a month ago or so, I do about 40 minutes 1 / week, seldom twice/week. I already think my butt has gotten perkier  ;D i love it! But I really keep the rule "less is more"
but I sure keep muscles even without any sport, I do have to keep the hole in the ice in the river open and that is pretty much a workout too when it is cold!  >D
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on June 26, 2014, 12:22:41 am
Oh man i have not updated in so long...

Eating the same, doing the same, feeling great  :) enjoying the cold and rainy summer  ;D

I am moving back to Germany! To the north.... close to the shore... where is..nothing lol Very little EMF,  a nice nice home. In just 2 weeks! I cannot wait... I so long for my own peace... I have some stuff to do! What also is amazing - there is lots of fresh seafood, living is way cheaper too. And I really really hope there are no smart meters!
When I am there and settled i will write a better update for sure! :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on July 21, 2014, 06:38:00 pm
Well.... I must say this is absolutely amazing..... I am drowning in fresh seafood... and the ocean is so close.... and this place is just magic  :)  :)  :)

Now I just need to get my phone and internet connection working, will take one more week, and then I hope to be more present here again!
Man it was so much work, the move! But SO worth it..... way less EMF..... and way more oysters  :)  :)  :)

Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 06, 2014, 02:49:39 am
Oh lala..... I was at that favorite beach of mine today - with the lambs on it... and picked 85 oysters..! Against the law  -X but i could not resist... They look way different than the ones i get at the shop so i thought there was none... then i started searching... and found some - and then some... and in the end there were so many but I had to stop collecting because my bag was about to burst :eek:
70 was pretty small and 15 pretty big
I just had a mackerel head smoothie and the mackerel meat from 2 mackerels as cevice and then raw nuts and 4 tiny oysters. They were very creamy and good!!! But i cut me pretty bad at the first one with my oyster knife, very hard to open that tiny bastard! My blood looked very nice and bright read and thin so I must have had enuf water tho ;)

It was so much fun to walk on the sea floor looking for the beauties - the funniest thing ever :) :) :)

Many people have warned me it is dangerous to eat the oysters now as it is so warm, i need to wait for the fall. But I just cannot wait. If I get sick in my stomach it is not so bad, that way I will save some money for food I think! I have never got sick from an oyster yet so sometimes I need to try that too

- - - - -

Well, I washed the oysters.... and ate one of the biggies too... oh man it was so crazy creamy!!!!
Look how big the biggest are, almost as big as a coconut! But there are way more smaller tho.. very small! But they have surprisingly much meat even if they are clearly babies.....
The oysters on the left are not even half of what is still laying unwashed outside the picture

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I cannot believe how beautiful they are, everyone is so different
I am so totally proud... I have finally found my oyster paradise :) :) :) :) :)

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I know you never have to give up! Always keep searching! And you will get what you look for :)
Biggest secret in life :) :) :)

You just need to know what you want, so you know where to look
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: TylerDurden on August 06, 2014, 02:41:20 pm
Those oysters look tiny, like the ones I always find in Austria. I used to get really giant-sized oysters in England from Marylebone Farmers'  Market. They weren't just bigger but also tasted way better than the smaller ones. I need to move to a country with a proper coast, preferably not the Mediterranean area.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 08, 2014, 12:21:02 am
Haha... tiny? For me they are big..  ;D i want to see the bastards you get in England Tyler, please post a pic or a video..... :-*
The biggest one i find are about 20 cm long. I seriously fight to open them... -[ The very small ones have very much meat in them too, that really suprised me!
They are way way better than the "Sylter Royal" oyster i get in the shop.... the wild i pick are so crazy creamy, like drinking cream, really.... and they have way more meat! Unbelievable... I wonder why there is such a big difference?

Why don't you move here Tyler, would be so nice to hang out with you and pick oysters along the shore  :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: TylerDurden on August 08, 2014, 12:37:38 am
https://www.google.at/search?q=giant+oysters&client=opera&hs=vl7&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rqrjU57sDuHmyQOtyoHIDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1906&bih=953#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=pJy_A_rTqiBKbM%253A%3Btsf5zjnzm-TsHM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.abc.net.au%252Freslib%252F201105%252Fr765658_6473956.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.abc.net.au%252Fsite-archive%252Frural%252Fcontent%252F2011%252Fs3215990.htm%3B700%3B467 (https://www.google.at/search?q=giant+oysters&client=opera&hs=vl7&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rqrjU57sDuHmyQOtyoHIDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1906&bih=953#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=pJy_A_rTqiBKbM%253A%3Btsf5zjnzm-TsHM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.abc.net.au%252Freslib%252F201105%252Fr765658_6473956.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.abc.net.au%252Fsite-archive%252Frural%252Fcontent%252F2011%252Fs3215990.htm%3B700%3B467)

Can be up to twice the size of  the photo above.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on August 08, 2014, 01:21:06 am
Holy cow... that is huge.... what did you pay for such a beauty / piece?

Did you ever pick them yourself? Did you find big ones then too? Where do you live now Tyler?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: TylerDurden on August 08, 2014, 04:06:10 am
Holy cow... that is huge.... what did you pay for such a beauty / piece?

Did you ever pick them yourself? Did you find big ones then too? Where do you live now Tyler?
I would pay 70 pence per oyster, £0.70.   Quite often, I would find two oysters with shells fused together and the nice fishmonger would allow me to buy those for the price of just one ! Admittedly, not all the oysters were really large, but most were if I arrived early  enough at the market. I sadly now live in a landlocked country, Austria, which is so expensive as regards seafood  that they sell raw seafood at prices per 100 grams.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: zaidi on November 18, 2014, 07:22:23 pm

Dear Inger,

I came many times to your journal, but you are not updating it any more.

I want to know about all, how life is going for you, but especially  about the magnetic bed that you were using.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: raw on November 21, 2014, 02:35:39 am
We are waiting for ur more posts for this winter . I do not like cold but reading ur journal from last year, inspired me to live in cold.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 22, 2014, 02:03:58 am
Dear Inger,

I came many times to your journal, but you are not updating it any more.

I want to know about all, how life is going for you, but especially  about the magnetic bed that you were using.

I am sorry... so much have happened! I will try to get an update done tomorrow, ok!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 22, 2014, 09:22:39 pm
Well.... I am in love......... and it is all like a beautiful dream, I still cannot believe it is true....

It happened a couple of months ago in late summer.  I got stuck in the sand with my car on a huge beach in Denmark... and this guy rescued me with his jeep...... so it all started...... I told him to promise not to fall in love with me and we can be only friends.... I thought he was not my kind of man at all.. so muscular..... and I have to be alone and heal...... but in the end..... I did fall in love with him  -X He is just a special man for sure.. I have spent so much time at his house... and will be there 2 weeks for Christmas too. He has a very strong personality...... he is the King..lol But I need that! In the beginning as we only mailed, I told him I love raw lambs hearts and stuff.. and if I scared him. He said, nope Inger, I am not so easily scared.. I am a Man.. lol
So he knows everything about how I live, he was here by me 2 weekends too. In the cold and in the dark.....lol and he has told me to NOT drink fish head smoothies anymore! I promised... but.. I have to do it secretly because I am so addicted to them.. if I get fish heads
Well, he is really the man.. Now I get so much oxytocin it will sure make up for the late nights with wine spent with him..lol

The magnetic mattress is great! I have moved out to the horse barn as I get 3 wifi signals in here, even if I only use corded internet. I do not want to sleep in wifi, thank you. So in this house lives my landlord, and a divorced lady and I. And each has a own "room"in the horse barn in the garden. There comes no wifi signals, and cellphone signals are very weak too. So I dragged my bed out there, washed and scrubbed the floor and walls and I put a nice carpet on the floor too, so it looks pretty nice out there. I sleep there for a few weeks already. I LOVE my sleep there! No heat on at all... it was + 3 degree C tonight. I love it. I love to sleep in the cold. I have a rain barrel on my terrace where I dip a minute or a little longer each morning. The water was 3 degree C today.... just amazing. The boyfriend cannot understand at all that I sleep in a horse barn...lol but who cares, I love it there, seriously! On my magnetico mattress.
The boyfriend keeps his house cool when I am there... because he knows I love the cold  :) He is just awesome!
He likes candles too...
I have eaten a couple of soft boiled eggs and stuff I normally do not eat (no crap tho) by him (he eats so many eggs!) and had some wine and whisky  :o but not much. He is no heavy drinker at all. He is a very hard worker and runs his own business. Great stuff. When I am by me I am strict tho as I feel my best with all raw and no cheats. He is very kind to me tho and buys me raw fish a lot and stuff I like to eat. He eats way more fish since he met me :)
Some pictures from last weeks;

I have started to do some training, as he has his own studio by him - it is fun :) always good to shape up a bit :)
He trains since forever too...... 189 cm and 110 kg muscle - and he is so healthy I will not say anything about his eating as long as it stays like that ;) but he has promised me if he get sick he will do whatever I tell him to  :)  Great deal  :)

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Here I am in his kitchen munching on raw cheese..... -X

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Life is good  :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 22, 2014, 09:31:35 pm
We are waiting for ur more posts for this winter . I do not like cold but reading ur journal from last year, inspired me to live in cold.

yeah.. explore the cold, Raw. You will not regret! It does not need to be ice cold.. just to keep it 15-18 degree C in your home and use less clothes when outside is big deal :) Take some quick cold showers after the warm shower every morning... feels just awesome :)
just keep it on the edge of your comfort and you will adapt just fine.

and.. do not forget about the dark :)
It surely has been a blessing for me.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: zaidi on November 22, 2014, 10:23:11 pm
Thank you Inger for taking time for us and replying.

I am happy to know about your love. I always felt you emits so much love every where, and you also need equal amount of love from others in your life.

All the best wishes from us to you and to your love.

I am studying the magnetic mattress infos, and I am also seriously intended now to buy.

I already seriously took your advice about cold water showers and now becoming addicted to it. For me, life is changing slowly, but towards the positive and for that I am thankful to this Forum and kind senior encouraging members.

Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 23, 2014, 12:15:10 am
Thanks Zaidi :)
So glad you are testing and getting addicted to the cold... it bis great stuff... it just might take some time to realize :)
I really would recommend the magnetico. It sure will do you good. In the beginning you might get a few minor issues but as the days goes by you will see what an amazing sleep it gives :)

I am sure feeling great :)

I have some nice high lamb hearts with fat on them in my fridge.. 2 small glasses full. I had some today again.. man are they good!

Picture from my home as my boyfriend visited.. we are on our way to the beach in Denmark where he rescued me ;)

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Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: zaidi on November 24, 2014, 09:30:39 pm
Great.

And now what's your plan about Hamburg?

It seems Denmark is winning over Hamburg while Denmark has an advantage of having that young man at it's side, who is loved by Inger.

How good is Denmark for your raw paleo diet?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: raw on November 26, 2014, 03:37:28 pm
Love is the best food for ur soul Inger. Now, your body and mind are charged equally. 

We are also seriously to buy ur bed pad.  The problem is my hubby found this too expensive while the other sites are cheap. What do u recommend ? I m in my best health, but the wifi is the problem. How do u think megnetco bed pad will make me more better? Do u just sleep well on it but what else do u feel the difference using this bed pad? please, share little details before I invest thousands on it. Thank you
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: raw on November 27, 2014, 06:52:40 am
Inger, you look hot! :P
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Joy2012 on November 27, 2014, 01:16:57 pm
Inger, may I ask what is the ratio of fat to protein to carbo of your diet? I am still trying to find my ideal diet. I hope your diet will give me some good ideas. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 27, 2014, 11:01:39 pm
Great.

And now what's your plan about Hamburg?

It seems Denmark is winning over Hamburg while Denmark has an advantage of having that young man at it's side, who is loved by Inger.

How good is Denmark for your raw paleo diet?

Noo...lol Zaidi.. the boyfriend is a German guy! 11 years older than me and a real alpha male.... uh!
He lives 2 hours drive south of Hamburg and he wants me to move in with him and I probably will in the beginning of new year. He makes me happy... very happy  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)
well.... who knows if there will be an oyster baby one day too  ;)
He lives not far from the border of Netherlands.. and he took me there last week and man they have great fish and stuff there! I get all the good food I want by him so raw paleo is no issue at all. I just am not allowed to eat raw herring, and raw heart in bed. Yeah. That is. He loves to eat breakfast in bed once in a while.. soft boiled eggs ;) I have had some with him too. But I do prefer my eggs raw.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 27, 2014, 11:08:07 pm
Love is the best food for ur soul Inger. Now, your body and mind are charged equally. 

We are also seriously to buy ur bed pad.  The problem is my hubby found this too expensive while the other sites are cheap. What do u recommend ? I m in my best health, but the wifi is the problem. How do u think megnetco bed pad will make me more better? Do u just sleep well on it but what else do u feel the difference using this bed pad? please, share little details before I invest thousands on it. Thank you

Well... raw. You might need to do your research yourself? That is what I did.. You can search Jack Kruses Blogs.. or Forums.. lots of great info about the magnetico.
It needs to be the real magnetico, no other brand. You want to lay on the negative current only. Magnetico is the only brand who makes them so far.. All others are with both currents... no good long term. It just stresses the body. Buy the real thing or nothing I would say. Maybe you can save? Or tell you husband.. he shuts the wifi off at night or then if not he must buy you a magnetico? To protect?
The boyfriend does not believe too much in the EMF stuff..a little bit... but he has wifi on all the time too. But thankfully he has a huge house and the bedroom is far away so the signal is weak there. But I will have to figure out a way to buy a mattress for us two soon.... uh! He has lots of money... but i do not think he will spend it on a magnetico... yet ;)
well... I just feel great...lol I have no illnesses or anything so I cannot say otherwise than increased well being and great sleep... vivid dreams.... just feeling happy :)

I cannot keep a battery driven watch beside the magnetico bed at all... it just slows down and shows wrong time....
maybe the magnetico slows down our aging too? ;)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 27, 2014, 11:14:52 pm
Inger, may I ask what is the ratio of fat to protein to carbo of your diet? I am still trying to find my ideal diet. I hope your diet will give me some good ideas. Thanks in advance.

I do not count anything Joy. I do eat a lot of protein I guess. But it also varies. Sometimes more fat.. or more protein... I am very easy with my food. I just eat and go on with life. I do not worry about ratios or anything like that. I eat so much that I feel like, 2-3 times / day. It is mostly pretty much... like in one day 500-1000 grams organs/meat or seafood (I eat more seafood that meat... and I eat more organs than muscle meat).. nuts... wild edibles.... eggs... beef fat.. sometimes butter... or coconut / olive oil.... in summer and fall berries and I love cucumbers too.
I do not think too much about food anymore..... I go with my feeling. When I feel like eating fat, I can eat it plain...lol no worries.
But I really try to not eat after dark.. so now I do my last meal before 5 PM. Great stuff :)

And in winter I avoid carbs alltogether.
In long light season I do some carbs... so far not too many. Might try some real carb loading next summer ;)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Joy2012 on November 28, 2014, 03:08:28 am
Inger, thanks.  I hope I could soon find what really works for me.

About something else....Inger, I feel that you are very open about your life. Maybe that’s the way people in your country are? That is very endearing.

On the other hand, I wonder if that might make you easily hurt emotionally. I mean, maybe you share your feelings/thoughts or you give away your affections before you really know people well? It would be like giving part of yourself away before you are sure it is safe….

If I misunderstand, I am sorry. I just feel you are a friend and I want to voice my concern.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: van on November 28, 2014, 04:49:26 am
I hope this doesn't come across as pure spiritual babble,,,  so let me put it this way,  I have read, that when you truly know yourself as love and can rest there, no one can take anything from you.   that doesn't mean that you don't and won't have emotions that rock you, it's just that when being rocked you can at the same time come back to who you really are, and not believe the myth of any particular story.  And then you're free, free to love who or whatever you choose without regards to an overwhelming fear.    So let me repeat,,  I have read that...

  How nice to put this into practice

  And then sometimes it's like loosing your dog, and swearing to yourself you'll never ever get another,, and then finding yourself at the pound or shelter helping another puppy get into your car.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on November 28, 2014, 02:40:26 pm
I liked that, Van :)

I share because I love when others share too....
I believe, when you give, you receive.
Sure life hurts, quite a bit!  Pain belongs to live as much as joy. I need the mix ;)
If I get hurt, I will heal.. I know

To me a community where no one dares to share because so afraid to get hurt... is like... death. Scary.

When we share, we learn from each other too :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 28, 2014, 05:31:45 pm
I look forward to seeing a baby Inger super cute soon!  Put all that vibrant health to good use.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 05, 2015, 12:34:52 am
No baby..lol

I think it is not going to work out very long with the BF.  -[
We have this huge physical attraction... and I am sooo in love. But. Things have changed.... i think... he is waiting for me to give up my believes to be allowed to enter into his kingdom.  -[
It is so weird.
But I cant do that. I can never do that.

He think my food is very healthy.. that is not the big problem (sure he thinks it is a bit weird that I eat loads of raw fish and fish head smoothies but he understands it is healthy stuff) . It is the EMF, avoidance of artificial lights... circadian rhythm... these things.. he cannot understand. He thinks I am a bit crazy. He says, look how healthy you are! You sure can go late to bed... watch TV in the night.... etc etc.
I tell him, I am so healthy precisely because I take good care of me, go early to bed, avoid too much EMF etc. But he just do not get it.
it is so heart breaking. But I know, if i give up what I believe in and start living like he does, I will hurt me. I cant do that.

I rather stay poor and alone than living a luxury life destroying my health and my hormones....... because that will take away my well being feeling and my joy too. It cant be paid with any money for sure.

I have done enough compromises the last months..  to my health.... it is just not worth it I fear.
Maybe I am just so sensitive.. and broken... but then it is so. I lived in a lot of stress 15 years in my past marriage.. that is enough. Enough broken...lol

Happy New Year to everyone! 

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Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 05, 2015, 12:42:59 am
On a positive note... I am up to something VERY exciting! I am going to a 1 week Cruise with the Jack Kruse forum! He comes and lots of the members too.. The Cruise starts from New Orleans.... in late June. I am so excited!!!! My ex husbands pays it all.... he is just so kind :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: van on February 05, 2015, 02:50:59 am
very often two people simply don't sit down and really discuss important issues in great detail, with great compassion, with really trying to understand the other's point of view.  It takes great skill (hence counselors).    This is much different than someone simply saying, 'he or she knows how I feel and what I want and he or she just doesn't get it'....   Very often, we're afraid of being judged, not being loved, and then being left.   But again, it takes great skill or the help of someone sitting in and keeping both calm, heart centered, and willing to go outside of their pre conceived notions.    Just a thought for you.   I look back at my 'failed' relationships and wonder,, 'what if'...
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: nummi on February 05, 2015, 03:20:55 am
He just lacks the many understanding and definitions in himself that you have about health and life. Since he lacks them, but you are talking based on those very definitions and understandings, then of course he cannot understand.
Basically the same principle: try lifting a weight you can not lift at your current physical state.
Or try to understand someone saying something to you in a language you cannot speak nor understand - also the same principle.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 05, 2015, 03:27:23 am

I do have tried my very best to make him understand what i need.... but he is not able to understand it or accept it.... and i cant change that
I get so unsure....... and confused.. and I try and try to make it better and do better but something in my belly feels so weird about the whole thing
My heart is just..
 tired
my ex husband loved me as a friend.. and he still does.... so much, but i think he never was much attracted to my body
the boyfriend loves me as a woman.. my body
why cant i have both things in one?
Are there men who loves a woman as the whole being? That would be just like heaven

Maybe I am just weird and need to heal. I need to be alone, darn.. and get my head straight...
i fall in love way too easy and it is so strong, i have to blame the oysters  -X
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 05, 2015, 03:28:37 am
So how can I help him understand?

Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 05, 2015, 03:34:11 am
My first big love... it was when I was around 15 yo.. in our church. I and he were both so in love, we just talked and cuddled a bit that was but we were so attracted to each other. Then soon after my family got thrown out of the church as it slpit in two. And we were banned from the meetings. I lost all my friends. I lost him. He was on the other side. I grieved and missed him for many many years.

With the boyfriend... I feel like in the same situation... he is on the other side.....
if I step into his side i will hurt me big. Smoking... staying up in the night... alcohol.. all that stuff... he wants me to live "normal"
I cant... not
He is feeling strong and healthy and thinks how i live is super boring... but i am never bored.. but he is not used to this kind of life.

So we are like on different sides in a war.............

I am a woman... and i get easily destroyed. Way easier as a man.
I just cant give it up and i get punished and it hurts so bad but i take it.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 05, 2015, 03:41:55 am
I am pondering... maybe i did a mistake to do some compromises and "dip into his word"
Maybe i should not have ever done one compromise.
Maybe things would have been different then?

The compromises made me feel pretty bad. Maybe they made me act wrong. I sure felt off. Destroyed sleep makes me feel so off. and i am not talking about sex instead of sleep..lol that would not hurt
Maybe the outcome would have been better not to do them?
But I did them for him.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 05, 2015, 04:03:43 am
I look back at my 'failed' relationships and wonder,, 'what if'...

I see you.

That is why I cant really leave him either. I cant see a future but maybe one should not give up so easy.
If he leaves me that is easier. But he has not yet.
I am going to think about it Van... what you wrote above..... i actually hate divorces of any kind. I always did.... i just cant relate to it it feels so wrong
but i cant let me get destroyed either. But there might be a way.. i need to figure it out :)
i am going to stay open.. and listen
I need to get real strong !
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Eric on February 05, 2015, 04:25:40 am
I empathize with you Inger. My partner and I struggle with our lifestyle differences too. She loves my quirky dietary preferences and other associated health choices, but I've yet to convince her to even try most raw foods, aside from certain commonly available sweet fruits and the occasional raw veggie. We've ended up settling into a polyamorous relationship so we can enjoy our attraction to each other while looking for other people who might be better matches.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 05, 2015, 04:48:47 am
Eric....
I do not mind at all if he eats crap and smokes etc... seriously! But that he tries to drag me into his bad behavior... that is what i cant let happen.
I personally think there must always be a way to compromise! I have told him we could have separate bedrooms? That way he can watch TV in the night in bed and go as late to bed as he pleases etc. Because now... my sleep gets destroyed all the time when i am by him... it just does not work
and i swear i never say no to sex! That does not destroys my sleep, it only makes me happier! Actually i need it very much.... (and i hate when i feel i get second place to the TV.. why do not have hot sex instead.. so much better huh) But the TV the bright lights etc etc..... they make me sleepless for sure

I can see thousand of ways how we could happily live together totally different lifestyles. Cause he has a huge house. Then it is easy. But he seems to not accept that... like he wants me to change. yeah and that hurts cause i cant change the stuff that makes me feel so good.
I am poor and he is very rich. Maybe he thinks he has the power because of that. Good is i have an ex husband who care for me very generously and is totally on board with all my health stuff, raw animal food, avoiding EMF etc etc. He believes in it all and lives pretty much like that too


Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: nummi on February 05, 2015, 05:42:53 am
He sounds like a person severely stuck in mainstream and its negative influences.
Based on what you say he seems like a "control-freak"... like he wants to "own" you, "dominate" you. It is weird that a person cannot accept someone for who she is... or rather it's normal, in the "mainstream" world. And tries to "force" his own qualities onto you if they simply to not fit at all. His mind doesn't sound like much advanced... at least in these regards.

The understandings you have, equivalent understanding are not part of who he is... How long and what did it take for you do acquire your understandings? The processes you had to go through... that made you who you are now. Maybe you could find a "hole" in him through which you could perhaps start introducing equivalent understanding little by little, initiating his processes of finding more than what he thinks he knows and understands, in a way that those understandings would incorporate into his being.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: JFetter on February 05, 2015, 06:22:57 am
I can relate. 
I am a guy, and I've always had a hard time being the one to break things off.  I don't mind so much if the other person ends it... I can go meet new girls and enjoy myself.
But to be the one to break things off, feels like I am "closing a door" in life with someone.  And for some reason I hate closing doors.... it always seems so final.

My opinion is that some (small) compromise can be OK over time.  But sometimes 2 people are so different, that it would take too much compromise to make it work, and one person (or both) would end up unhappy. 

I think you're beautiful.  I'll make a deal with you - you can come live with me and we can have a home on acres of rural land... away from the city and other people... with lots of green land and woods to walk through and have spring picnics..... lots of sex and no cable for TV..... but you have to come to the US!  ;D

I think you're doing the right thing.  Take your time.... and time will help you see things more clearly and hurt less.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on February 05, 2015, 07:15:41 am
Here is my 2 cents about making man woman relationships work.
As i come from a land and culture far far away.

I get along well with any woman as long as she is no nagger.  And my paleo and healing skills are much appreciated.

As long as I am committed to children and as long as she is committed to children and we have children between the two of us... we will make things work between us.  Continuous inseminatioin works via Natural Family Planning because of the semen transmission solidifies the chemical / physical / bonds.

And of course as long as I am able to support with money .  We have no government dole outs in this country, so you had better get along well enough or your children will go hungry.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: zaidi on February 05, 2015, 09:04:18 pm
My opinion is that some (small) compromise can be OK over time.  But sometimes 2 people are so different, that it would take too much compromise to make it work, and one person (or both) would end up unhappy. 

* One must keep in mind that there are always limit to everything. Too much compromise may break you.

* Secondly, Compromise begins if other party is also ready to adopt (otherwise it is not a compromise, but it's name is Dominance VS subservient/submissive). Till the time this condition is not fulfilled, compromise is never going to work one sided. You may stay together, but you will not be happy.


Negatives:
* He is unable to understand EMF % Light stuff. And TV is playing very big role in the social life every night along with disco and drinking.
* One side gives him freedom to eat as he wishes, to watch TV as he wishes. But is he ready to give the same freedom to the other side?

My Fears:
* Human being is a social animal. His whole social life and of his friends and relatives is different. In case of non balanced compromise, it may happen sooner or later in the future that demands could come to eat cooked foods too in the parties or with the friends.
* One must keep in mind too that if he is more inclined towards body than the spiritual friendship, and he also keeps on eating his SAD diet and drinking and unhealthy lifestyle, then sooner or later he may be going to lose his health too, which automatically means less body interest too.


Positives:
* He has no objection upon the diet. He understands the importance of diet. Alone this fact could bring huge change. May be once if he gets bad health, he will be forced to start the Raw Paleo himself.

All these Positives and Negatives and fears should be judged and evaluated by Inger herself.

Earlier one Paleo friend also mentioned that it is very important to take the time (i.e. no fast actions needed). Some people do learn things with the passing time.

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I think you're beautiful.  I'll make a deal with you - you can come live with me and we can have a home on acres of rural land... away from the city and other people... with lots of green land and woods to walk through and have spring picnics..... lots of sex and no cable for TV..... but you have to come to the US! ;D

Sir, show the compromise and please come to Germany yourself in order to find the love of your life ;D . Absolutely nothing against your relationship, but big NO to  going to US, while I am myself in Germany too  and don't want to lose Inger to USA  ;) .

Back to the topic ... sometimes it does play huge role to be among the people/community who have similar lifestyle. We all benefited ourselves from this community (Forum) to get constant INSPIRATION from each other.

So, this is an extra PLUS point and one has to take this into the consideration too.

You see, fighting alone against the SAD eaters world is a difficult task. But 2 partners together could face the world in a better way. Also if Oyster Babies come, then both raw paleo parents could fight the challenges in better way. It will be very difficult for a single raw paleo mother to meet the challenges alone, specially if there is not a 100% behavior of compromise from the other partner.

So, I have also one more fear (the biggest fear) that more differences could occur after the baby is there.

Distances in modern world mean nothing. In general, if you have enough money, then you could reach to any part of the world within 24 hours. So, if one could find a suitable partner even in the other corner of the world, then please don't fear and go for it.

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I think you're doing the right thing.  Take your time.... and time will help you see things more clearly and hurt less.

It is a good advice. Most important task is to not let yourself get hurt.  Healing is good, but PREVENTION is better.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: eveheart on February 06, 2015, 01:30:51 am
I've seen so many variations in relationships that I find it hard to make rules that apply to everybody.

I've seen couples break up harmonious relationships because they find too much conflict. I've seen couples stay in hostile relationships because they find enough love. Any decision will have its pros and cons, so don't worry about making a mistake.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on February 10, 2015, 02:36:19 am
Inger, having your own bedroom would be good so you can control your evening environment. He can visit anytime for chatting, massage, sex, sleeping etc as long as he leaves the light off.
Sounds nice to me :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on February 10, 2015, 07:22:46 am
Inger, having your own bedroom would be good so you can control your evening environment. He can visit anytime for chatting, massage, sex, sleeping etc as long as he leaves the light off.
Sounds nice to me :)


My wife and I sleep in adjacent houses... boys sleep with me, girl sleeps with her. I have started turning off the power at night like Inger.  I bought a battery rechargeable electric fan when it is hot.  It is hot in my country so there is no need to be beside one another for warmth when sleeping at night.

Sex is any other time and location.  Yes, my wife is active again after a 10 yr "rest".
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 12, 2015, 03:53:09 am
I can relate. 
I am a guy, and I've always had a hard time being the one to break things off.  I don't mind so much if the other person ends it... I can go meet new girls and enjoy myself.
But to be the one to break things off, feels like I am "closing a door" in life with someone.  And for some reason I hate closing doors.... it always seems so final.

My opinion is that some (small) compromise can be OK over time.  But sometimes 2 people are so different, that it would take too much compromise to make it work, and one person (or both) would end up unhappy. 

I think you're beautiful.  I'll make a deal with you - you can come live with me and we can have a home on acres of rural land... away from the city and other people... with lots of green land and woods to walk through and have spring picnics..... lots of sex and no cable for TV..... but you have to come to the US!  ;D

I think you're doing the right thing.  Take your time.... and time will help you see things more clearly and hurt less.

Well... I will be in NOLA in June.... ;)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 12, 2015, 04:20:27 am
Thank guys for all your support... I REALLY appreciate it. More than you can imagine............

I know the future will be amazing... and IDK but even if my life is pretty much chaos I feel so good... like super full of energy and so happy I cant stop smiling?! I just quit my work I got a few weeks back because i realized my boss is not fully honest and now I am looking for another job and i should actually be stressed but I am just finding it all super exciting....lol like life is so much fun  ;D

I am going to not think much about the boyfriend, just go on with my life and stay open like a kid
He lives so far away anyways. If he comes visit he can as long as he is nice to me ;) and as long as I have no other boyfriend ;)
Who knows how everything works out in the end? Life is full of surprises.. that is for sure.......

GS,
I love how you shut off the electricity at night.... very clever step :)
Do you use candles only after sunset too? Very good for the hormones :)

I do all these things with having it dark after sunset... dipping in ice cold water.... avoiding EMF... eating soooo much seafood and FAT and seaweeds....etc.  and my hormones are VERY much alive.. feels really good :) :) :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Alive on February 12, 2015, 11:14:14 am
I have been sleeping in the loft of our barn for the last year - at one end there is an opening with no window and it's nice to have the wind blowing in all night. I find it very peaceful to be out of the house and my wife and I have been getting on much better since I moved. It nice to be away from her turning the lights on or starting work on a computer in the middle of the night. There is a family of sparrows nesting in my roof who are good neighbors and I wake up to the sound of a family of pukekos (swamp hens) foraging outside.
 :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Joy2012 on February 13, 2015, 11:18:15 am


I am poor and he is very rich. Maybe he thinks he has the power because of that. Good is i have an ex husband who care for me very generously and is totally on board with all my health stuff, raw animal food, avoiding EMF etc etc. He believes in it all and lives pretty much like that too

Your ex-husband sounds more attractive than this BF. Is there any possibility you and Your ex. go back together?
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 14, 2015, 05:19:31 pm
I have been sleeping in the loft of our barn for the last year - at one end there is an opening with no window and it's nice to have the wind blowing in all night. I find it very peaceful to be out of the house and my wife and I have been getting on much better since I moved. It nice to be away from her turning the lights on or starting work on a computer in the middle of the night. There is a family of sparrows nesting in my roof who are good neighbors and I wake up to the sound of a family of pukekos (swamp hens) foraging outside.
 :)

Alive, you are experiencing the magic of cold, dark and boring ;)
It is the most healing thing IMHO I am addicted to it! I crave it.... those dark nights and evenings.... they makes one turn inside........ go deep.. and you find the light, inside you :)
It is pretty darn amazing :)

Nowadays, if I have to be somewhere with much lights on after sunset, I really suffer! It feels so weird, like really off!

I believe, to let our bodies experience daylight / sunshine  and darkness... when they naturally occur... it is very very healing. We need them both... to get our body into the rhythm of nature. We live in a chaotic environment and our bodies desperately need to feel its environmental signals to make sense of the chaos.. and get into order to fight illness. The nnEMF messes with the signals really bad, so we need it more than ever!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on February 14, 2015, 05:25:41 pm
Your ex-husband sounds more attractive than this BF. Is there any possibility you and Your ex. go back together?

Well.... I do not think he ever was that attracted to me as a woman.. more than a friend. Our hormones just did not fit that well I guess.....
Seems like men with a lot of hormones get attracted to me and I to them  l)
those are the alpha males......... The ex is kinda a alpha male too but not really big. Maybe if he eats lots of oysters and raw fish he will boost his hormones and turn into one...lol He eats raw fish all the time now, pretty cool :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on May 19, 2015, 01:52:48 am
Oh man.... so long no update...lol
Well... doing great! My staple food is still raw wild mackerel from around the corner  ;D and wild oysters I pick myself :)
and nettles from the woods.. and chickweed... everything green is growing here now even if the weather has been pretty cold and rainy and stormy!
I get at least 6 grams of DHA every day I guess - no wonder my mood is great despite stuggles here and there in love affairs and such  O0
well... I understand... I am weird...lol who drinks fish heads?  And keeps it dark in the evening and goes early to bed... how boring..lol >D must be a pretty tolerant partner... and I am not willing to give up that  :)

Soooo exited about my trip to the Kruse Cruise 21 June from New Orleans..... only 1 more month...... OMG... I still cannot believe I am going there!
I never was overseas. And I will meet so many amazing people... Do anyone from this forum come too?

Working a lot these days.. doing 2 jobs... working 7 days a week.. but going strong... lots of energy :)

Greetings from the windy and so amazing north Germany  :)  :)  :)

(http://i58.tinypic.com/hunmnn.jpg)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: TylerDurden on May 19, 2015, 03:46:13 am
Lovely to hear from you. Makes me sad, though. I used to have access to lots of raw wild mackerel and raw oysters. I can still get them but they are not as good, being sourced from a 1000 miles away.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: goodsamaritan on May 19, 2015, 06:43:15 am
Please post a link to the Kruse Cruise on June 21 that you are joining!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: political atheist on June 02, 2015, 12:14:15 am
Oh man.... so long no update...lol
Well... doing great! My staple food is still raw wild mackerel from around the corner  ;D and wild oysters I pick myself :)
and nettles from the woods.. and chickweed... everything green is growing here now even if the weather has been pretty cold and rainy and stormy!
I get at least 6 grams of DHA every day I guess - no wonder my mood is great despite stuggles here and there in love affairs and such  O0
well... I understand... I am weird...lol who drinks fish heads? (http://i58.tinypic.com/hunmnn.jpg)

do you eat the ENTIRE fish(skin, insides, head, tail etc.)?
how do you eat the head?

i just got mackerel and sardines.. I dont know how to eat them.. i was thinking to just cut them in small pieces and blend them...
How do you eat the fish Inger? Give me please some recipes...
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on June 02, 2015, 03:56:31 am
Lovely to hear from you. Makes me sad, though. I used to have access to lots of raw wild mackerel and raw oysters. I can still get them but they are not as good, being sourced from a 1000 miles away.

I would still eat them Tyler.... way better as nothing! I eat a bit old mackerel too often and no issues here.... I need seafood no mater what...lol
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on June 02, 2015, 03:59:46 am
Please post a link to the Kruse Cruise on June 21 that you are joining!

well... there is no link but you need to log in to be a member at jackkruse.com website and it costs nothing if you get a bronze membership, and you will get the information per mail :) Cruise goes off from New Orleans Sunday 21 June...... for one week. I am so excited!!!!
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on June 02, 2015, 04:03:28 am
do you eat the ENTIRE fish(skin, insides, head, tail etc.)?
how do you eat the head?

i just got mackerel and sardines.. I dont know how to eat them.. i was thinking to just cut them in small pieces and blend them...
How do you eat the fish Inger? Give me please some recipes...

I buy them whole, filet them and make me a nice dish from the fillets, and the heads I blend with water into smoothie and drink.... with roe and fishmilk if there are any... (I freeze some of the heads in portions as they will soon get bad otherwise.. and then just take them up and thaw and make me fishhead smoothies when I need a boost - the more oysters I have the less I need the fishheads cause the smoothie is a little yucky...lol))
The fillets I cut up into pieces and mix with sliced raw onion, sea salt, ACV.. and let it stay in my fridge in a big bowl and I eat from it maybe 5 days and it is awesome :)
I now at this moment have about 100 oysters in my fridge too...lol I feel so rich :) :) :)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: RogueFarmer on June 03, 2015, 02:24:02 am
Make sure you bring a portable fishing pole and tackle! If you can find a squid lure they are really easy to catch at night, especially if there is a light near the water attracting them. Or you could order one of these luminous squid lures that will bring them in like a magnet. http://www.amazon.com/8inch-Luminous-Squid-Fishing-Stainless/dp/B00B32SO2K/ref=sr_1_10?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1433269293&sr=1-10 (http://www.amazon.com/8inch-Luminous-Squid-Fishing-Stainless/dp/B00B32SO2K/ref=sr_1_10?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1433269293&sr=1-10)

Squid are pretty common near the surface at night in the open ocean, i would go for it! Be careful though, a small squid might put up a surprising fight. They say 40 pound humbolts on the west coast fight like a 300 pound fish! Squids on this side are generally much smaller than that though.
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: RogueFarmer on June 03, 2015, 02:26:29 am
actually i read these are much better. http://www.amazon.com/Yo-Zuri-Squid-Luminous-Green-2-Inch/dp/B000SHW9M2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1433269538&sr=8-2&keywords=yo-zuri+squid (http://www.amazon.com/Yo-Zuri-Squid-Luminous-Green-2-Inch/dp/B000SHW9M2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1433269538&sr=8-2&keywords=yo-zuri+squid)
Title: Re: Inger's healing journey
Post by: Inger on June 05, 2015, 12:32:43 am
I wish I will get my hands on some squid....... I doubt it tho..... but oysters I will get I am pretty sure! Should be cheap in NOLA... and they have happy hours :)