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Hot Topics / Re: How to heal tooth cavities
« on: October 06, 2011, 11:47:03 am »
Healing/regrowth of tooth cavities is possible.

The following conditions must be met:

1. High raw animal fat + high raw animal protein consumption
2. Good mineral supply
3. long-term KETOSIS!

Every piece of fruit will impede the healing process.

I know that you don't want to read this, sorry. But this is my experience.

Löwenherz

You regrew your cavities then with those conditions?

I was healing/regrowing my cavities without these conditions. The amount of fruit I ate did not impede the process either. Those were the conditions that you as an individual must have needed. Others might also need it, but they might not.

At the time I didn't even know one could eat raw animal fat and never heard of ketosis. I most certainly was not in ketosis.

But so glad to hear you were successful! 


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What is the standard here for 'perfectly proven' assuming this means over those other WOE's (often never even practiced)

Has Dr. Fred bisici 80 years old and 40+ years raw vegan perfectly proven the efficacy of a raw vegan diet low in fruit sugar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DShPbfaUAmo&feature=related

Can we assume Art De Vany has perfectly proven that people can eat cooked foods everyday as long as they are paleo and have seemingly excellent health into their 70's and 80's?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipvwSAzOEis&feature=youtu.be

has Aajonus perfectly proven after 40 years that diets high in raw dairy are necessary for modern health?

I'm sure many will agree very much that people who live over 100 prove that cooked foods in general are healthy.

I'm guessing you think the answer is no to these in therms of PROOF, so I'm curious what the EXACT difference is without references to what theories say is good or bad in diet.

In other words, what are the vital statics, or other information used as  comparisons to raw paleo or primal dieters, raw vegans or standards dieters - of which there are some examples in the 40+ year range. Without citing the theoretical possibilities of the diet..what are the concrete measurable comparisons to another persons health both in long term and with greatest results in fixing problems in short term?

further clarifying:

If someone who eats raw dairy or raw vegan or cooked foods and is seemingly healthy for decades and can claim superior health on online forums, how does one prove without citing the theoretical tenants (what is good or bad to eat) of what the dieter believes..that the instincto dieter is physically/emotionally etc.. more healthy?

are people willing to put up blood work or other vitals, or paranoias aside about mainstream testing methods, at least simple images of their teeth, skin, hair, eyes etc.. for examination to gauge vs cooked fooders or other raw gurus?

can a new member join the forum and claim eating instincto for 50 years and also perfectly prove something? What actually evidence is being put forward here as proof?...

Ah - KD - the more I read of what you have to say the more I like you. Perceptive - intelligent.

I would say that what Iguana has put forth as proof is that just like the rest of the old-timers in any style of eating that it is POSSIBLE to eat such and such a way and be healthy. This is a pretty big statement when it comes to eating raw animal foods as most of society thinks that eating one little bit of raw meat will give you parasites and you will die a quick and horrible death.

There is another level though. In Instincto - and tell me if I'm correct here Iguana - there is the emphasis in trusting oneself above others. Smelling, tasting, feeling - using all your senses to determine what food is good for you. The basic rules against eating foods conjured up later in human history is done in order to keep one senses pure enough to determine for oneself what one "should" be eating. There's no one saying that you have to eat this or that to be healthy or so and so percent or buy this gadget or buy this product. No one is saying - do it like me or you are doing it wrong. The whole message is that if it tastes bad, smells bad and feels bad - it probably IS bad is important. I can't believe how many people go on and on and on with a particular diet looking and feeling horrible because someone else told them it was good for them. It boggles my mind. Instincto's message, in my view, is that YOU are the guru. If you tune in and listen to your own body, you have all that you need to make the right decisions for yourself. I really love that. With Iguana as an example (ok - so he can't prove anything just like the rest), at least it can open your mind to a way which can then be a new choice and perhaps will give someone pause when they eat up whatever someone ELSE is trying to feed them and perhaps ask the question if it wouldn't be better to trust themselves knowing that others seem to have done that a long time and come out ok.

I think Iguana doing his thing a long time counts more because what's he saying is: Don't listen to what I eat - listen to what YOUR body wants to eat. That sets him apart in my eyes.

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Hot Topics / Re: Pop Science for Pop supplements
« on: October 05, 2011, 12:57:48 am »
Many of the supplements are really just food and herbs. I think that in the modern world our diets have gotten very narrow. Monoculture big agribusiness has narrowed what we heat dramatically in the last 50 years especially. I mean - tumeric - It's just a root. Green tea - just a plant soaked in water. Hunter Gatherers probably ate 100 different things that did some of what tumeric can do. Many of the supplements are things taken out of foods that people have stopped eating. We also can now get things from around the world - and perhaps we're lucky since most people only eat maybe a dozen things at most all the time. When diets get so narrow and so poor - I guess swallowing a pill is better than nothing - but the problem is that people don't realize why it is that they need to swallow those pills. They look at the pills the way they would look at a pharmaceutical drug. They aren't thinking that they need to take the pills because their diet is poor.

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My thoughts often return to contemplating the importance of what is not being eaten when thinking about why something is being eaten has a certain affect. I think about how much of the replacement's good affects might actually be due to the exclusion. Most people only look at the inclusions. Same goes for eating only fruit as it does for eating only meat and every similar scenario. When this kind of exclusionary eating is done often the affects are only attributed to what is being eaten and little attention given to what affects eradicating all the other foods might have.

People that eat raw animal fat are not usually eating canola oil and hfcs for instance.

Eating raw meat does not usually only exclude cooked meat but the stuff that in America it often fried in.

Again - just thoughts.


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Hot Topics / Re: Pop Science for Pop supplements
« on: October 04, 2011, 12:40:24 pm »
Interesting. Notice how green tea is in both the "good" and the "conflicting" areas. Hmmmm.

I love these kinds of visual aids to understanding. Some of the most popular items are surprising.

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Hot Topics / Re: The future of fast food article
« on: October 04, 2011, 12:36:18 pm »
One day high meat in cheeto's wrapping??? lol.

Seriously - this is fascinating. Are people really that susceptible and unthinking that they just buy anything in those wrappers, in those machines, with that advertising - no matter what it is? Carrots don't have salt, fat or processed sugar! These were always considered to be the "lures" of fast food. Go figure.

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Hot Topics / Re: Cavities
« on: October 04, 2011, 12:17:33 pm »
I was refilling in my holes from fillings that fell out until the hurricanes hit and my diet took a turn. Ruined years of regrowth and made serious breakdown after that. :(   Infections and pain all gone after getting my diet basically more stabilized and time to start rebuilding (hopefully) once more by going the distance in doing what I know will work but I'm no longer in the same condition from which to start. I did go to a dentist that took pictures and was monitoring the regrowth but then the hurricanes and I left. Dentists back then and for the years before were willing to take out the rest of my fillings because of the miraculous re-growth but now I couldn't find anyone that would probably concede to anything less than pullings and root canals for the teeth that took the hit - which of course I wouldn't think of doing after my previous experiences. Now that life is calmer and less stressful I will see how things go. As far as I'm concerned if there is no infection, no pain and I can still chew - I'm ok even if I don't experience regrowth again.

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Instincto / Anopsology / Re: Instincto Vegetables?
« on: October 04, 2011, 11:44:04 am »
Ah - you mean before the landscape turned to grassland - a tropical Africa?

Are there any hunter-gatherer societies located in the tropics that have been studied? I'd imagine the diet would be similar no?


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Journals / Re: Lifestyles of The Raw and Paleo
« on: September 30, 2011, 03:51:21 am »
Hey KD,

I just read over your journal and wanted to give you a shout out.

You have transformed yourself into such a handsome, healthy young man! I wouldn't even be able to guess that the pictures you posted of yourself earlier were the same person.

Congratulations on finding your way. Not only do you look fabulous, but your intelligence and common sense in your writing shines through.

Thank you for sharing the pictures and your thoughts.

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Instincto / Anopsology / Re: Instincto Vegetables?
« on: September 29, 2011, 08:29:04 am »
Hi Dorothy,
Interesting. But how do you know? Have you ever been in the tropics on a wild food walk? Did you eat only raw food in the tropics? And did you eat much vegetable there?

Hi Hanna,

What Cherimoya said about having to be extremely careful is accurate. The only way to do it safely is to have someone with you that really knows their stuff. I did that and still made a mistake. I was never confident enough after that to get a great deal of my food from my natural world in the tropics like I was in the North East where I grew up and knew the plants generally well enough to feel confident. If you grow up in a place with the plants and people indigenous to that place show you which plants are safe and which ones not and which ones to use for healing it becomes second nature and is safe and a natural part of life. Up north I lived with those plants as a child and knew them on a level I never felt I would get to when staying in the tropics. I was a transplant and never really did take root. ;-) Maybe if I were to move to the tropics again, stay longer and find another teacher?

As far as how much greens, fruit, animal foods - when you are out and about and taking your food from nature in a place and with plants that you know well it becomes intuitive how much to eat and pretty easy. You know the plants, you know your body and how much feels good and at what times of year and which parts etc. The plants in a way tell you. It really is tremendously fun and there is no nutrition quite like it. Eating one leaf of wild plant for me packs more power than a whole bowl of agriculturally grown leaves. It can be transformative. My body just loves wild greens. The sad thing is that where I am living now there are almost none. As a matter of fact - there's not much green of any kind this year!

Hanna - are you in the tropics? I found someone that literally lived off the land and knew the plants inside and out. Try to find someone like that and stick to them like glue. And here is a BIG hint. Never eat more than one tiny leaf or flower etc. of any new plant and wait a day. I had an allergic reaction to a plant that was ok for others but ate too much as a novice. It was at the end of the day and I was tired too and was overfull with information so wasn't on my game. Only eat plants when you are aware, open, refreshed and strong. Double check always with your teacher at first that what you are about to eat is what you think it is. Only try 2 or 3 new plants at the most during one walk. One would be best. You can listen to what is being taught, but only eat one little leaf when you go out and learn about that plant entirely so you take home with you a deep knowledge of one plant. Even if a teacher talks about 50 plants - really get into your head just one and into your body just one. If you keep on doing this it will do you more good than you would imagine. I've been on many walks where I tried to take in everything just to come home with nothing. This goes for even if you have a private guide. They usually want to tell you everything that they see. When you come to one plant that speaks to try to stay with that plant longer, take a specimen if you can. Look it up in books and the internet. Try to plant some in your yard or a pot. This is the way to really make the plants your friends if you can do this. It's what I decided I will do in the future. For instance, here, I found a chili piquin plant (a native pepper that grows here) and planted it in my yard and cared for it over a few years. I now know what that plant, flower and fruit look like every time of year and at all stages of growth since it made babies. I feel confident with that plant.

Best of luck to you!

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Health / Re: Cause of Heart Disease?
« on: September 29, 2011, 07:58:48 am »
We cured my aged Mom of an almost completely occluded aortic artery. Before doctors said must do surgery right away or 90% chance will have stroke. One year later - completely open and clear artery.
 
Take out bad fats, put in good raw fats - especially cold-water fish. Take all junky food out. Only one fish oil supplement is raw and works - minami. Only thing (tried hundreds and prescriptions) that brought her outrageous life-long cholesterol and sky-high triglycerides down into normal range. If don't want pills, can't get that or prefer not to - then just eat raw fish. Mom did that too. 

Also read somewhere a long time ago that heart disease was a symptom of a lack of vitamin c but don't remember where.

What Lex wrote about his not having a lack of vitamin c on an all meat and fat diet is telling here.

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Health / Re: Ulcer?
« on: September 29, 2011, 07:47:41 am »
So you can't make it from real buttermilk?

There are two types of buttermilk so it's confusing. There is traditional buttermilk or old-fashioned buttermilk which is the buttermilk that is leftover from making butter. This however is NOT what is used to make quark. I have tried and the results are poor. In these modern times what is referred to as cultured buttermilk is actually whole milk with active culture added to it in the form of some buttermilk or from a starter culture where it is allowed to ferment - much like yogurt.

Quark is NOT clabbered milk btw. It is something else entirely. The use of the culture allows the fermentation to happen quickly to make something quite delicious and not very sour like clabbered milk is.

You make cultured buttermilk by continuing to clabber milk over and over throwing away most of it and adding fresh milk - getting it concentrated to the point where there is such an active colony of bacteria in it that it then is able to make fresh milk into quark within 24 hours when adding to whole raw milk.

Quark is a kin to cottage cheese. Cottage cheese is artificially made into a cheese using rennet whereas quark is made into a soft cheese by the activity of beneficial bacteria so quark is more healthful if one is looking to increase beneficial cultures in one's gut.

Hope that helps make it clearer.

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General Discussion / Re: Hello. I'm new here. Convince me to eat raw meat
« on: September 29, 2011, 07:38:15 am »
Hi Sunaj,

Sorry so long for the reply - I've been away from the computer.

Lex buys the petfood from Slanker's on-line. They now make a "primal ground beef" which is basically the same as the pet food but is processed at the same place that the human grade food is and inspected. Lex says he has no problems with the even cheaper pet food that is not inspected and processed cheaper so is cheaper. Both these ground beefs include organ meats and both are 100% grass-fed.

Here's a link where you will find a price for the primal ground beef. http://www.texasgrassfedbeef.com/beef_cuts_and_prices.htm  The site is an interesting read within itself and it is where I first found out a great deal about meat when trying to find a raw food for my dogs. That website is part of the reason that I am now here on the paleoforum. If you don't know what grass-fed is about the website is a good place to learn why it's so important - at least to me.

Hope you are doing well!

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Hot Topics / Re: 20-month-old suckles on cow’s udder
« on: September 16, 2011, 12:11:47 pm »
If that child's parents were as instinctive and smart as their child they might not have had to leave!  ;)

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Instincto / Anopsology / Re: Instincto Vegetables?
« on: September 16, 2011, 12:09:14 pm »
I don't mean a single food, I mean an assortment of foods from which to sniff and taste. He has provided an assortment of tropical fruits to choose from, I'm just asking if he has done the same thing anywhere re: tropical veggies.
Thanks for the possible examples, Francois. Palm tree cores, aka heart of palm, look interesting:
I'd like to try that some day. I think I've seen it in canned form in a supermarket before. Presumably that would not be raw, however.

While yacón can grow in hot, tropical climates, it is actually reportedly a perennial plant native to the temperate Andes of Perú (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yac%C3%B3n, http://www.seedambassadors.org/Mainpages/still/kapulerfieldtrip/Yacon.htm), so according to GCB's writings, it would not necessarily match "man's initial dietary bandwidth" the shaped our "genetic background," which he has described as the foods of "tropical climates." GCB and GS have piqued my curiosity about what the native vegetables of tropical climates are, especially of Africa, reportedly the original habitat of our tropical ancestors (H. sapiens sapiens and earlier African ancestors--not Neanderthals, which reportedly inhabited Eurasia and the Middle East). One sees so little about this interesting topic. Maybe GCB or someone at Paleocru would know more examples?

I've went back and read over some of the older instincto threads and after reading this one I would just like to add that in the Tropics there are countless edible greens growing - it's just that they are not cultivated and sold. In the tropics there are more wild greens to eat than one could imagine. Many of them are known only to the few adepts. Going on a wild food walk in the tropics is overwhelming to say the least.

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Instincto / Anopsology / Re: Instinctive raw eating in practice
« on: September 16, 2011, 11:35:44 am »
I regret that in this forum the interest in discussions and publications about instinctive raw eating is very small. So I decided to support another project: the publishing of raw menus in a diary about instinctive nutrition:
Tagebuch instinktive Rohkost
This diary is written in my maternal language, German. Of course, publishing in German feels really natural for me. :)

So I want to say goodbye to all girls and boys of the rawpaleoforum. Thanks for all of you who read and answered my posts. I wish you all the best. :)

Those pictures are beautiful. I can't wait to get a garden going! So much easier to eat intuitively going out to the garden. Susan, with so little going on every contributor counts more and besides - then it's really easy to keep up with the conversation right? You can be both places. I wish you wouldn't leave.

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General Discussion / Re: Hello. I'm new here. Convince me to eat raw meat
« on: September 16, 2011, 09:26:18 am »
Hi Sunaj. Welcome.

Like Raw-al I was a vegetarian and healthy. I ate all organic fruits and vegetables. The one thing I have noticed coming to this diet is that it has radically reduced my food costs. Organic fruits and vegetables are really expensive! Organic nuts and seeds are astronomically expensive. And - the thing is - when you are eating mostly if not exclusively those things you have to eat A LOT of them. Just by adding raw eggs, seafood, meat (and dairy for me at times) my food needs have come down dramatically, my refrigerator space has opened up and I spend a whole lot less time shopping ... and spending.

There's a dude here named Lex that orders a pet food blend of ground meat and organs and eats that exclusively. His food bills are very low indeed - the lowest one can get eating healthy.

Aajanous Voldenplanitz (if I spelled that right) has a recipe book that gives lots of sauce recipes - but I haven't tried them yet. What I find is that if I put a raw egg yolk on on my ground meat with a little salt and pepper that makes it very tasty. You could try that or add just mix in your favorite herbs. Cumin or curry works well if you like those. You could just add chili herbs or you can go Italian with basil and oregano and a touch of olive oil. I make sauces to marinate fish in and make a very simple sauce for raw fish that you might like. Every time I make sauces they are a little different because I'm just used to mixing and never measuring so I'm sorry that I can't give you exact amounts - but you really don't need it. Do you have a health food store where you can buy nama shoyu (raw soy sauce)? If not you could use tamari or even soy sauce (better than what you are eating now). Add in some powdered wasabi/horseradish (I use my own that I make - but you can buy it) and ginger. If you dip your raw fish in that or make it thick you can dab some on each piece it's pretty yummy. Also - I've been finding that a big trick is to get a really super sharp knife and slice your fish/meat extremely thin. This makes it melt in your mouth. If you add a tiny bit of that sauce, a little cut piece of nori seaweed and a piece of avocado it's a delicacy.

The ideas on how to flavor things is long as there are chefs and books on cooking. Learning to work with herbs is an art learned by experience and practice.... but well worth it. If you have a costco or sam's near you they have big jars of seasonings. The herbs can make all the difference. A great many of them also help you to digest your foods. For instance - horse radish will kill parasites and ginger is a "digestive" - helps you to digest.

Money is a common reason given for not eating well - but when it comes down to it - you really can't afford not to eat well.

If you eat some raw animal foods every day your and eat raw fruits and veggies too you will have to eat so much less that your food bills will go down and your health will go up. It might not be like that at first though. At first your body might be really deficient and want a lot of it - but after awhile if you eat that way you will eat much less food and get more out of it.  

The crap you eat now is actually the most expensive way to eat in the long run. Wait until you are really sick from it to find out how much it costs. I have one suggestion: get only grassfed meats and dairy. Then the animal is treated well and fed well and so you will be too. Eat less of these if you need to. If you can afford half a pound of grassfed meat when you could have gotten three buckets of fried chicken for the same price - the half a pound of grassfed is the better deal. Same with chicken. Hard to get good pastured chicken - but that's the way to go. I just eat the eggs from my pet chickens instead. Hefty nutrition that costs very little.

Best of luck to you!

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Hot Topics / Re: 20-month-old suckles on cow’s udder
« on: September 16, 2011, 08:41:44 am »
Do you think that's what it was - just the reporter being sensational? I wouldn't be surprised at all if a great many people got worked up about a toddler doing that.... as silly as that is. People do get worked up about the silliest things when it comes to food.  ;)

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Hot Topics / Re: Coriander kills bad e.coli!
« on: September 16, 2011, 08:26:02 am »
Cilantro is one of the best plant foods for removing heavy toxins from the system.

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Hot Topics / Re: 20-month-old suckles on cow’s udder
« on: September 16, 2011, 08:21:58 am »
If we had children do that instead of bottle feeding them chemicals when mothers can't/won't breastfeed or the mother is fed worse than the cows - the children would be much better off!

Isn't it so weird that it's ok for an adult to grab a cows teets and pull and milk it and then drink the milk but not ok for a baby to go and suck on that very same teet when that's the food that the baby most needs? Adults don't have to have milk but that baby does.

Humans are incomprehensible to me sometimes.

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Hot Topics / Re: Omega-6: significant at what point?
« on: September 16, 2011, 08:14:00 am »
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At moment I am not old enough to get job and move out.

But for sure one day I will be old enough and will have a job. ..... but what will happen then?

Once I am having good job, and I will move out and my Parents will also move out with me to my new home  ;D.

In our culture children stay with parents & when they are grown up then parents stay with their children.


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Zaidi who gets to make the dietary decisions for the household? Are you male or female? When you get a job will you be able to determine what is eaten? Is it a democracy where everyone decides together or does the person who brings in the money determine or the person who is in charge of the kitchen determine the dishes? What role will you play when you are older?

One of the things that you will likely be able to get is fresh fruit. That is socially acceptable in most societies. Then in Germany you can eat quark for sure. It's a German dairy dish and perhaps if you are living in Germany the family would be ok with trying a traditional German dish and it is made traditionally with raw milk (of course that's not paleo but is better than most things). Is the family open to eating German dishes and willing to experiment with those? How about eggs? One of the things you might be able to do is just ask that you eat your eggs raw when others get theirs cooked? Maybe ask to eat the meals before they are cooked? Would it be socially acceptable for you to eat the same thing just to do it before it goes in the stove?

I can see you asking politely for some eggs, some fruit and filling up on those as snacks and eating the group food in smaller servings.

That's quite a challenge - but I'm sure you will figure out a way to get around the social limitations eventually even if you have to be sneaky.

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General Discussion / Re: how long is beef good for after thawing?
« on: September 06, 2011, 12:11:59 am »
I like ground too loanna because I can so easily add egg yolks from my chickens and tiny bits of seasonings and it tastes like a delicacy to me - especially the lamb - and I really trust that farmer. It's also the easiest because hubbie takes his part and makes a rare cooked burger and the dogs get their raw helpings with their eggs all from one package at once.... it's even a great little treat for the chickens. Easy peasy. Yummy. Everyone happy.

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Health / Re: Ulcer?
« on: September 05, 2011, 02:03:51 pm »
Since I might not be able to come back here for a bit I thought I'd better leave instructions if you are able to buy the raw cultured buttermilk and don't have to make it. Making the buttermilk is harder and more complicated than making the quark. The quark is quite simple:

All you need to do is mix about 1 part buttermilk to 7 or less parts milk in something stainless or glass. Leave some buttermilk in the container and re-fill it. Leave the buttermilk out for the day and then put in the fridge until the next time. Leave the mixture of milk and buttermilk on your counter for 24 -48 hours at room temperature -- until it becomes a mass. I cover mine to keep out bugs. You get it to set by adding the culture and letting it grow just like you would yogurt or anything similar. The time it takes depends on temperature and the amount of buttermilk. The more buttermilk the less time it takes. Skim the cream off the top then drain off as much whey as you want to using a strainer to make it the consistency that you like best. I take out most of the whey because quark cheese and whey separately stay fresh longer and re-mix the quark with the whey when making milkshakes etc. You can add salt to make it taste like cottage cheese or honey and/or fruit to make it more like yogurt.

I have made enough that my husband made me a special press (up to 10 gallons of milk at a time), but for small amounts all you need is buttermilk, milk, a pot, a strainer and glass containers to store it in your fridge. It's one of the easiest things to make once you get used to it.

That's it.... The traditional German Quark and that Johanna Budwig would have used. Mix the quark with flax oil thoroughly and you have the core of her cure.

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General Discussion / Meat Glue
« on: September 05, 2011, 10:47:43 am »

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Health / Re: Ulcer?
« on: September 05, 2011, 10:36:12 am »
You need cultured buttermilk to make quark as your starter. You can buy the buttermilk already made or you can spend a week or two making the buttermilk yourself which will entail throwing away some of the clabbered milk in the process of making the buttermilk. The buttermilk is like your yogurt cultures or your kefir grains. It's what you use to make quark. Do you have cultured buttermilk available to you? If you can buy it - it's easier.

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