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Welcoming Committee / Re: another newbie.... or actually not quite yet
« on: December 08, 2010, 12:02:13 am »
ahaha  I reconized so much myself in the description of your fruitarian belly, and constant hunger and craves for sugar ; horrible sensation...
Add with non stop bowel pain. I was so bored that I took only juice for a (long) while, and finally have lots of acidity and troubel mountains of glycemie.
It was like I was going crazy to not arrived to adapt my diet. I was on zero fat also ! No vegetables, as I can't digest it.

Now I switched on raw paleo and just have maximum the juice of 4 apples a day (took in mouth and split the pulp out). I feel really better, it's huge !
I wanna try ZC but I think I am a little addict to fruit sugar... Though after each apple juice, I can feel the glycemic pic and sensibility in the teeth.
If I take the pulp, I feel my belly too big and don't feel good at all with that. I think it's not physiological for human to have a big belly (it changed all the stature)... This question of having a big belly while we are moving on 2 legs obsessed me a little when I was and believed in a fruit diet.

How are you doing now UB ?

Sorry I just saw your post now. Was absent a little while.

I am still not sure what to eat really. I switch back and forth between fruits and meats. I am still a bit at loss at what to do.

How are you doing? Still into fruits or did you switch to an all meat diet already?

Health / Re: Salmonella food poisoning
« on: September 20, 2010, 11:04:23 pm »
  There also seems like there might be some slight blood in the diarrhea too, though since before drinking the milk, so it wasn't caused by the dairy. 
Dunno what else to do.

If you are sure it was blood, then I suggest you see a doctor right away. Blood in the stool is never ever a good sign.

Good luck

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: The complete Paleo Diet
« on: September 20, 2010, 02:03:14 am »
I know, sorry, I digress sometimes.

hey, nothing to be sorry about  ;)

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: The complete Paleo Diet
« on: September 19, 2010, 06:18:11 pm »
You can not get cancer on this diet it is not possible unless you live in a very polluted environment, which 90% of the polluted battle is won when you change the diet. Cancer is actually a natural process that happens every day in everyone. So theoretically it is not bad. However when the process fails, it is bad. Cancer in it's natural sense is called trophoblasts, which occur in a growing fetus. Trophoblast cells result in hyperplasia, thus growing a fetus from 0-10lbs. Once the baby's pancreas starts producing the enzyme trypsin around the 8th month, hyperplasia and trophoblast cell multiplication ceases. This is why raw food is so powerful, all of the enzymes are in the food as opposed to 0 in cooked food. I dont have any clinical experience with this and am not a physician, so check with your doctor first, but in the RPD world, we feel that cancer patients would do best on a diet of as much raw pancreas as one can eat, while simultaneously eliminating cooked food.

Food for though: All grain products have trypsin inhibitors. So by eating grains, you are inhibiting your pancreas from producing trypsin to stop trophoblast hyperplasia.


"cancer" was just an example. There are many other diseases and I just chose cancer out of many. I was just curious about klocarb's blood work. She always mentioned she feels fine and doing good. But her blood work may tell something else. Is all.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: The complete Paleo Diet
« on: September 16, 2010, 07:38:01 pm »
I eat beef and pork mostly, TONS of eggs, with extra yolks, and grassfed butter (oh noes!). I'm doing just fine.

you ever done a blood test? Results? Just curious  :)

My doc always says: cancer doesn't hurt until it's too late!!! Maybe 'feeling good' or 'doing just fine' is not enough, sometimes.

Not that I want to scare anyone  ;D

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: chewy fat on meat cuts
« on: July 01, 2010, 01:58:54 pm »
4 people asked this question in the last week.. It's not fat, it's connective tissue... If it tastes a bit of fat, that's because there is some fat mixed in with it...

my bad

the search didn't yield the answers I was looking for

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / chewy fat on meat cuts
« on: July 01, 2010, 03:18:14 am »
Most times I buy a fatty piece of meat I notice that the fat is really chewy, more like gum to be exact, and I am not able to grind it down with my teeth. Since I cannot grind it and also cannot just bolt it down (gross) I take it out of my mouth and threw it away.

This non-eatable gummy fat is really turning me off. Anyone else experience this?

The meat I can buy is mostly on the lean side anyway. E.g. the ground beef is less than 10% of fat or sometimes less than 20%. The steaks, cutlets and all other kind of cuts are very lean as well. What kind of extra fat would you add to this?

Journals / Re: 6 Month Zero Carb Experiment
« on: June 27, 2010, 08:43:42 pm »
Yes, a little raw honey is better than a meal of fruit. From my experience raw honey & honeycomb will not affect the almost complete digestion and absorption of nutrients from raw meat & fat, but fruit will. It's an excellent sugar source that will do all the right things without the negatives of fruit fiber & acids. Let us know how you do.

thanks mate, I'll give it a try and let you know. I'll keep watching here... :-)

Journals / Re: 6 Month Zero Carb Experiment
« on: June 26, 2010, 10:36:08 pm »
You're not a sugar addict, it's how our bodies are programmed to work. If you start your day with fruit your body will stay in sugar burning mode the whole day and you will crave sugar. The trick is to reverse the order and start your day with raw meat or raw eggs and then have fruit later in the day. You will eat much less fruit this way. If you do this for some time you will find yourself not wanting to eat any fruit because it disrupts your zero carb euphoria (read kick-ass energy and mental clarity). It should all happen naturally and not forced. That's how you go from fruit eater to zero carb carnivore. The energy from fruit pales in comparison to the energy you will have from raw animal fat. If someone told me this before the experiment I would not have believed it, but it really is the next level. (Btw it's nothing like nuts or avocado, raw animal fat is a whole different experience)   

I already tried reversing and started my days with raw meat. Did very well, even walking around grocery stores smelling all the nice fruits, until approx mid afternoon. Could never hold off any longer and ate some fruits. That didn't go over very well. Every time my digestion is impaired. Don't want to be or sound gross, but a) lots of farting b) it stank to hell and back. For me, eating fruits only on empty stomach. Everything else is not working.
But maybe I can switch to eating raw honey after the meat instead of eating fruits. Haven't dried that. What do you reckon? I also thought about making pemmican.
Have a great weekend

Journals / Re: 6 Month Zero Carb Experiment
« on: June 26, 2010, 10:29:41 pm »

Hi UB.  I wasn't 80-10-10 just before RAF, but I was high carbohydrate vegan for many years.  To start, much of what I would eat was raw grass-fed cream that I cultured to facilitate it's digestibility (and lower its carbs).  The add a fertile real free range egg yolk to facilitate the fat digestion.  Then add unheated unfiltered honey for sweetness and ease digestion of everything and protect from new microbes I was not accustomed to.  Then add half of a medium size unripe fruit for fruity flavor that would be extended by the fat and honey.  It worked, as I didn't eat fruit any other way for over a year after that.  I hope this helps someone like you switching off fruit.


Thanks RawZi, unfortunately raw cream is not available where I live, only pasteurized. Therefore, I won't drink/eat it.
Raw honey is no problem. In fact I have some sitting in my cupboard. How much honey do you suggest I take per day?
What is a fertile egg anyway? I read it all the time, but have no clue what that is. How do I know the organic eggs I buy are fertile eggs?

After reading your advice several times I take it that everything you suggest here is mixed/blended together as a drink, is that right? Sounds yummy really, but with no raw cream how would I do that?

Hi UB and welcome to forum!  :)

Do you have any negative symptoms from your fruitarian diet? Or why do you want to switch over to ZC.


Thanks Inger

Yes indeed, I have stomach problems. As far I as can tell it must be the fiber. Whenever I eat fruits to satiety my stomach is sticking out like I am 6 month pregnant. It looks that way for hours. I also noticed I get satiated fairly early. Cannot eat as much as I should on a fruit diet.
E.g. eat a fruit meal mid morning, tummy is sticking out after that. Couple hours later I don't feel really hungry but I am looking for sweet fruits again. Even though my tummy is still full and sticking out and I am not hungry I eat more fruits. Tummy gets even worse and I feel bad/sick now. And I am still not satiated. I am still looking for more food. Sometimes I eat more and sometimes I can hold myself back. It's a vicious cycle.

When I was on a cooked paleo about 2 years ago, I remember I felt good and my tummy was flat all the time.

Welcoming Committee / another newbie.... or actually not quite yet
« on: June 25, 2010, 08:00:17 pm »
I am still eating 80/10/10 and having a very very very hard time to let go of my fruits. Whenever I start on RPD again I miss my fruits and go back immediately to eating fruits only. I am addicted to sugar.

I need help, how can I get off sugar? Some people say "get rid of all sugary foods and fruits and don't buy them anymore". Yeah well, I tried it. Didn't work out either, cause the grocery store is just across the street. Also eating all that fat grosses me out right now. Maybe I should start by eating avocados as my fat source, but then again that wouldn't be zero carb.

How did you guys cope with switching from vegan or high fruit to RPD? I tried so many times in the last couple of weeks, months but it never worked :-(

Hi guys and gals, I am UB, btw > it's a pleasure to be here.

Journals / Re: My experience on RPD
« on: June 25, 2010, 07:52:17 pm »
Hi Nation,

I hope you get this diarrhea thing sorted out soon. Seems like you already found the culprit > supermarket grain-fed meat. Let us know how you do on solely grass-fed meat.

High fruit diet? Are you eating 80/10/10 style? I do right now, still, but would like to get off. I am having a very hard time. I can't seem to let go of the fruits at all, bugger!!!

Wish you luck

Journals / Re: 6 Month Zero Carb Experiment
« on: June 25, 2010, 07:48:40 pm »
I read you were eating lots of fruits and lean meat prior to starting this 6-months-zero-carb-experiment.

How did you get off fruits so easily?

I am eating 80/10/10 now but would like to go zero carb too. I already tried several times, but every day I eat raw meat I miss my sweet fruits and I go back to solely fruits. I can't help it. I guess I am a sugar addict.

I was doing cooked paleo before and did good. I went vegan then 811 and now just thinking about eating a lot of fat grosses me out. *shudder*

Do you have any advice for me?

btw, it seems you are doing great so far with your experiment, not only girls wise but also health wise. 2 thumbs up!! Looking forward to read more.

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