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General Discussion / Re: My concerns
« on: September 14, 2021, 02:14:47 pm »
In Europe not all fridges are frost free, most of them they are not, and they make the meat wet and rot.
My brain fog it's maybe related to them, because when I eat completely raw I don't get that headache, but I don't really know.

My fridge does make the high meat mouldy, but I eat it anway - have not had problems because of it, and I eat like 1 lbs at one meal when I have it. I saw videos of Vonderplanitz where his meat was very mouldy, he seemed fine with it.

The brain fog, do you have the possibility to take a general blood test, see where you are, especially in terms of vitamin B12 and vitamin D ? In UK one can order a blood test at home, and the results displayed online on a website that one has access to.

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Easy low-alcohol mead
« on: September 13, 2021, 01:55:18 pm »
Haha ! Now I see what you mean after searching for those words. Thank you  ;D

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Easy low-alcohol mead
« on: September 11, 2021, 10:55:31 pm »
Interesting idea. Any chance of a picture with how the balloon is setup ? I'm slow.

Suggestion Box / Re: Maybe make a Q/A section for new people?
« on: September 11, 2021, 01:14:06 pm »
I do not drink coffee, when I wake up in the morning, I do not have brain fogginess or dizziness.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Just Starting, Newbie from Oregon
« on: September 10, 2021, 10:57:29 pm »
 My big toe joint feels like it's full of broken glass and sometimes I can't walk on it
I was wondering if anyone had issues with Gout.  Classically it's associated with rich meat foods and organ meats

I had the gout-like big toe inflamation when I got to about 4-5 years of being low fat / high carb vegan.

Doctor prescribed me antibiotics and it went away, but this is to reply that it does not happen (only) to meat rich food eaters.

Currently eating raw meat and drinking water exclusively and feeling great !

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: can not get rid of belly fat no matter what
« on: September 09, 2021, 01:35:21 am »
Newbie here, question: does it matter if it's a game meat vs. moo cow bovine?  Or are game meats too lean?  I know that a certain amount of fat has to be included for digestion and avoid 'rabbit starvation' but could the poster use Elk potentially? 

1. Opinions vary, and opinions can be complex like you get different hormonal changes from different meats, but from my experience so far, I don't think it matters much.

2. I would not add fat unless I would really crave it, which has not happened yet. I eat pretty lean beef (braising steak is cheapest where I order from).

Welcoming Committee / Re: Just Starting, Newbie from Oregon
« on: September 03, 2021, 10:25:28 am »
Hi, well, I thought "RAW" was like ... an adjective like XTREME or KILLER...

This was funny as hell. Welcome to the group ;)

I saw quite a few great ideas shared already. Adding my thoughts to the list:

If you decide to eat this way, there will be an adaptation period with various effects (like constipation , or maybe diarrhea, or some dizziness for a short while ... everyone experiences differently). After that, nirvana.

Cut raw meat into bite size pieces using kitchen scissors, and not much chewing is involved, just roll around a bit in the mouth and down the hatch.

Hot Topics / Re: Natsinagfa thread
« on: September 01, 2021, 01:26:13 pm »
I can't blame Europeans for disliking Americans
I just feel like we are at a point where the only good thing we can do as a country is to become isolationist, to remove our involvement from the world and really focus on our own problems at home.


I do not dislike Americans, or any other nation for that matter.

In UK we did the Brexit thing ... I would say that we are still waiting to see its effects, and there are things still to be agreed (like the financial services relationship to Europe). Only the goods portion seems to have been agreed.

Personally, I'm flexible to move wherever I'm treated best, so not much affected by this or that country. In fact, as I am planning retirement, I plan to split my life between 3-4 different countries  ;)

Not much to say about the refugees themselves, they are just people, trying to make a better life for themselves and using whatever system is in place to achieve that. Being nomadic, and searching for better pastures, is pretty paleo in my book.

Suggestion Box / Re: chat room for raw paleo?
« on: August 31, 2021, 05:58:44 pm »
Agreed !

Instincto / Anopsology / Re: Who has read GC Burger's main book?
« on: August 10, 2021, 05:18:02 pm »
I am reading it on Kindle. Very good.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 08, 2021, 11:12:11 pm »

One like that without the freezing compartment, just big enough to fit an air-tight plastic bin in, in which I store the glass jar to trap the smells in the plastic bin and not the fridge itself.

Looks good, thank you. I'll see what I can find where I live.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 08, 2021, 04:56:45 am »
Also, try to get a small dedicated mini fridge for the high meat, otherwise it will stink up your main fridge and ruin all your other food. Start ASAP with high meat because it takes some time to mature and you will wish that you started sooner when you try it!

Noted, thank you.

I actually have a mini fridge that I do not use for anything else.

As it's in the garage, I'll check tomorrow whether I can fit a jar in it, but it might be too small:

What sort of dedicated fridge are you using ?

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 08, 2021, 04:40:44 am »
I used to be part of the not airing gang, but then realised that airing is indeed necessary. Now I suggest that you air it every other day, even though waiting 2/3 days should be fine. I air on monday, wednesday, friday, saturday, tuesday, etc. If you go on holiday you can just ''continue'' where you left off because the bacteria become inactive when you stop airing, but don't actually die. Just remember that for the first months you really want to keep a good schedule on airing the jars, as you really need some time before the high meat is really strong enough to get a lot of effects.

Excellent, thank you for the tips.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 08, 2021, 12:24:23 am »
Haha, forget it. The smell of any rotten meat will stay in your container forever, no matter how many times you've washed it. The glass mason jars are perfect because you can just buy new ones if you do something wrong in the process.

I definitely see your point. Will try various containers, including jars, and see what works for me.

About high meat, I read of people airing the thing every 2-3 days, others report not airing for weeks. What has been your experience ?

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 08, 2021, 12:22:52 am »
Hi.  Welcome.

Thank you, good to be here among like minded people.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 07, 2021, 06:56:21 pm »
Thank you.

Yeah, I have been thinking about that  :)

Planning to experiment with this sort of containers rather than jars, feels like it would be easier/cleaner to get the high meat out and clean the container afterwards:

Welcoming Committee / Hi from England
« on: August 07, 2021, 05:23:29 am »
Wow, I have not used a forum since early 2000s, that's how old I am (almost 41) ;D

I have been searching for a long time for the most appropriate human diet.

I mean if one asks 'What is the diet for a lion ?' or 'What is the diet for a cow ?', the answer is pretty much instant.

Somehow, when asking 'What is the diet for a human ?' the answers get confusing and complicated.

I started the journey in 2010 with Atkins, and never moved off Phase 1 (under 20 grams of carbs per day) and did that for six years until 2016.

One day in 2016 I had this plate of fried chicken thighs and felt really nauseated just looking at them, and that was the beginning of my plant based phase.

During the plant based period I tried all sorts of combinations: raw fruit, which left me hungry and needing the toilet a lot ... after a while I introduced cooked foods like rice and pasta. Most vegans I read about seem to lose a lot of weight, but the opposite was true in my case.

The increase in weight, combined with other ill effects, I knew something had to change, so after 5 years of veganism, in April 2021 I went carnivore (cooked zero carb style).

That was alright, but I did not enjoy the cooked beef taste a lot, strangely enough fried beef tasted sour to me somehow.

First week of July I went raw paleo. I was trying to fry some beef and just felt like biting from it raw, and ate the whole piece.

I soon realised that it is quite hard to tear raw flesh (depends on the cut of meat I suppose), so I got some kitchen scissors - best investment ever. I can cut the meat into bite size pieces and can easily swallow after a minimum amount of chewing.

In the beginning of raw paleo, in the evening I did feel like having cooked meat, and got some take away food, but after a week or so, all that disappeared.

Recently I tried fruits, but they did not agree with me at this stage.

I ate quite a few eggs in the beginning, like 12 a day or so, but I do not feel attracted to them at this time.

So I am eating mainly raw beef, and have some wild venison trimmings on order, on the way.

For water, the tap water here smells of chlorine stronger than the swimming pool, so I use the distiller to clear that. I am aware some people do not do well with distilled water, but I had no problems so far. Sometimes I buy sparkling water like San Pellegrino.

That's my diet story so far...

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