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I expect that you will get different versions of answers, here's mine.

From your list, I would keep:

- Dried fruit like blueberries, goji
- Raw fruit like old variety of local apples; shipped pomegranate, grapefruit, lemon/citrus
- Butter organic grass fed

And would get rid of everything else listed.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Questions... Raw Meat
« on: November 24, 2021, 08:24:12 pm »
This has been my experience:

0. I keep the fish frozen, but the meat only in the fridge (even if it gets mouldy sometimes - I eat it anyway).

1. If you mean body odour, then nothing after adaptation to fully raw - although in the beginning there might be detox and body odour, also if you were to keep eating cooked and raw there might be some body odour. Only when I went 100% raw meat, no more body odour.

2. Similar to the answer to 1. - during adaption might stink, after not much smell. Consistency normal after adaptation, I had watery stool for a few weeks in the beginning, nothing painful though.

3. I feel much calmer, more empathic to other people, more loving, more helpful.

4. I feel that I'd like to be closer to other people, before starting to eat like this I wanted to be alone all the time.

5.1. I just had watery stools, possibly lower energy for a while.

5.2. I cannot comment as each journey tends to be unique to the individual - but smoked salmon is sort of cooked.

6. Correct.

General Discussion / Re: High quality eggs in UK
« on: October 13, 2021, 01:44:14 am »
2C is quite low. Do you still notice benefit from it?
Most chicken feed contain soy, even organic feed.

Raw milk has not worked for me, I tried for a few weeks but I gained weight constantly and kept giving me tummy ache.

Raw eggs, I do not crave - used to eat about 18 a day, but I do not feel like it at this time.

Since a few months I have been on meat and water and that seems to suit me best.

Might have been 4C for the milk (you can ask them on Facebook if you want), cannot remember accurately. Either way, I am not consuming it currently, milk in general has not worked for me.

I have also tried Guernsey raw milk and products, made no difference to me, but if you want to try, these do ship nationwide:

General Discussion / Re: High quality eggs in UK
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:52:00 pm »

Do they ship nationally?

Did you ask them at what temperature is the milk cooled in their collection tank and at what temperature do they store the milk?

Did you ask them what exactly they feed to the chickens and cows?

Yes, 2C IIRC

General Discussion / Re: High quality eggs in UK
« on: October 11, 2021, 01:54:29 pm »
Anybody knows some high quality egg sources in the UK?

A farm could be your best bet. Not sure what area you live in, but I buy raw milk and eggs from Fox's Fridge:

General Discussion / Re: New jar for every high meat batch, or reuse ?
« on: October 05, 2021, 01:42:21 am »
I havent't done it with high meat, but with many fermented foods.
In my experience, it will affect. If your batch was good, I would say use the previous jar, if it wasn't so good, change it.
It makes sense because there will be bacteria on it, and that particular strain might be interesting or not.
Just decide by taste.

Thank you, good tip.

General Discussion / New jar for every high meat batch, or reuse ?
« on: September 28, 2021, 02:03:50 am »

What has been your experience, do you reuse jars for high meat or you throw away after each batch and grab a new one ?

Health / Re: Intestine issues in the morning
« on: September 27, 2021, 09:01:56 pm »
Well, that actually is his recipe! He introduced the concept of high meat to people!

Yeah, the recipe for making high meat is pretty much the same everywhere as far as i see. But it seems that AV indeed introduced it to people.

Ah ! Thank you for clarifying.

Sharing this documentary about fermented shark, thought it might be of interest:

Health / Re: Intestine issues in the morning
« on: September 26, 2021, 08:33:47 pm »
Making sure I eat raw meat daily makes me slowly detox unhealthy toxins that were stored in my body. No fruit or shake has ever helped me with that. I only use his high meat recipe.

I find that when I try fruits, they make my teeth hurt - surely what is good as a diet for humans, should not cause tooth (or any other) ache ? I do not have cavities, just weak teeth surface I suppose.

I eat only raw meat and drink water, rarely (like once every 3 months or so) I might have to do a social event and have to eat steak or something.

Sorry if this is a silly q, but how is AV's recipe different than 'put meat in jar, air every few days, leave it for a few weeks' ? I mean are there different recipes for making high meat ?

Off Topic / Re: Work Alternatives
« on: September 24, 2021, 01:00:45 am »
There are multiple ways to financial independence.

My way is slow and steady: spend less than I earn, invest the rest, retire early.

When I say invest, I mean in S&P500 via Vanguard (lowest fees).

You are basically investing in the whole US (largest 500 companies), rather than a single company i.e. much less risk.

And then it goes up and down over the years, but overall you should end up being ahead in 10-20 years.

Save every month a little bit if you can etc.

General Discussion / Re: My concerns
« on: September 14, 2021, 02:14:47 pm »
In Europe not all fridges are frost free, most of them they are not, and they make the meat wet and rot.
My brain fog it's maybe related to them, because when I eat completely raw I don't get that headache, but I don't really know.

My fridge does make the high meat mouldy, but I eat it anway - have not had problems because of it, and I eat like 1 lbs at one meal when I have it. I saw videos of Vonderplanitz where his meat was very mouldy, he seemed fine with it.

The brain fog, do you have the possibility to take a general blood test, see where you are, especially in terms of vitamin B12 and vitamin D ? In UK one can order a blood test at home, and the results displayed online on a website that one has access to.

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Easy low-alcohol mead
« on: September 13, 2021, 01:55:18 pm »
Haha ! Now I see what you mean after searching for those words. Thank you  ;D

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Easy low-alcohol mead
« on: September 11, 2021, 10:55:31 pm »
Interesting idea. Any chance of a picture with how the balloon is setup ? I'm slow.

Suggestion Box / Re: Maybe make a Q/A section for new people?
« on: September 11, 2021, 01:14:06 pm »
I do not drink coffee, when I wake up in the morning, I do not have brain fogginess or dizziness.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Just Starting, Newbie from Oregon
« on: September 10, 2021, 10:57:29 pm »
 My big toe joint feels like it's full of broken glass and sometimes I can't walk on it
I was wondering if anyone had issues with Gout.  Classically it's associated with rich meat foods and organ meats

I had the gout-like big toe inflamation when I got to about 4-5 years of being low fat / high carb vegan.

Doctor prescribed me antibiotics and it went away, but this is to reply that it does not happen (only) to meat rich food eaters.

Currently eating raw meat and drinking water exclusively and feeling great !

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: can not get rid of belly fat no matter what
« on: September 09, 2021, 01:35:21 am »
Newbie here, question: does it matter if it's a game meat vs. moo cow bovine?  Or are game meats too lean?  I know that a certain amount of fat has to be included for digestion and avoid 'rabbit starvation' but could the poster use Elk potentially? 

1. Opinions vary, and opinions can be complex like you get different hormonal changes from different meats, but from my experience so far, I don't think it matters much.

2. I would not add fat unless I would really crave it, which has not happened yet. I eat pretty lean beef (braising steak is cheapest where I order from).

Welcoming Committee / Re: Just Starting, Newbie from Oregon
« on: September 03, 2021, 10:25:28 am »
Hi, well, I thought "RAW" was like ... an adjective like XTREME or KILLER...

This was funny as hell. Welcome to the group ;)

I saw quite a few great ideas shared already. Adding my thoughts to the list:

If you decide to eat this way, there will be an adaptation period with various effects (like constipation , or maybe diarrhea, or some dizziness for a short while ... everyone experiences differently). After that, nirvana.

Cut raw meat into bite size pieces using kitchen scissors, and not much chewing is involved, just roll around a bit in the mouth and down the hatch.

Hot Topics / Re: Natsinagfa thread
« on: September 01, 2021, 01:26:13 pm »
I can't blame Europeans for disliking Americans
I just feel like we are at a point where the only good thing we can do as a country is to become isolationist, to remove our involvement from the world and really focus on our own problems at home.


I do not dislike Americans, or any other nation for that matter.

In UK we did the Brexit thing ... I would say that we are still waiting to see its effects, and there are things still to be agreed (like the financial services relationship to Europe). Only the goods portion seems to have been agreed.

Personally, I'm flexible to move wherever I'm treated best, so not much affected by this or that country. In fact, as I am planning retirement, I plan to split my life between 3-4 different countries  ;)

Not much to say about the refugees themselves, they are just people, trying to make a better life for themselves and using whatever system is in place to achieve that. Being nomadic, and searching for better pastures, is pretty paleo in my book.

Suggestion Box / Re: chat room for raw paleo?
« on: August 31, 2021, 05:58:44 pm »
Agreed !

Instincto / Anopsology / Re: Who has read GC Burger's main book?
« on: August 10, 2021, 05:18:02 pm »
I am reading it on Kindle. Very good.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 08, 2021, 11:12:11 pm »

One like that without the freezing compartment, just big enough to fit an air-tight plastic bin in, in which I store the glass jar to trap the smells in the plastic bin and not the fridge itself.

Looks good, thank you. I'll see what I can find where I live.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 08, 2021, 04:56:45 am »
Also, try to get a small dedicated mini fridge for the high meat, otherwise it will stink up your main fridge and ruin all your other food. Start ASAP with high meat because it takes some time to mature and you will wish that you started sooner when you try it!

Noted, thank you.

I actually have a mini fridge that I do not use for anything else.

As it's in the garage, I'll check tomorrow whether I can fit a jar in it, but it might be too small:

What sort of dedicated fridge are you using ?

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 08, 2021, 04:40:44 am »
I used to be part of the not airing gang, but then realised that airing is indeed necessary. Now I suggest that you air it every other day, even though waiting 2/3 days should be fine. I air on monday, wednesday, friday, saturday, tuesday, etc. If you go on holiday you can just ''continue'' where you left off because the bacteria become inactive when you stop airing, but don't actually die. Just remember that for the first months you really want to keep a good schedule on airing the jars, as you really need some time before the high meat is really strong enough to get a lot of effects.

Excellent, thank you for the tips.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 08, 2021, 12:24:23 am »
Haha, forget it. The smell of any rotten meat will stay in your container forever, no matter how many times you've washed it. The glass mason jars are perfect because you can just buy new ones if you do something wrong in the process.

I definitely see your point. Will try various containers, including jars, and see what works for me.

About high meat, I read of people airing the thing every 2-3 days, others report not airing for weeks. What has been your experience ?

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi from England
« on: August 08, 2021, 12:22:52 am »
Hi.  Welcome.

Thank you, good to be here among like minded people.

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