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General Discussion / Re: Have I caught something from eating raw meat?
« on: January 31, 2016, 11:51:51 am »
Unless you had those muscle pains, you probably didn't have trichinosis.

Thats good. Im really weak though. At maybe 20% strength. I definitely have worms though. What would that be?

General Discussion / Re: Have I caught something from eating raw meat?
« on: January 31, 2016, 09:12:50 am »
I just checked my stool and I had a little white worm in it! It was alive and wriggling! What the hell is that?

General Discussion / Re: Have I caught something from eating raw meat?
« on: January 30, 2016, 08:43:26 pm »
What have you been mostly eating since then? Do you take any herbs or supplements?

Just back to a normal diet. I take supps occasionally now, but only started again 6 months after the fact.

I just watched this video and it sounds exactly like what I have accept I think his incubation period was a a few weeks and it lasted 9 days, and mine was a few weeks and I still feel it. ALthough perhaps he got better because he took the de-worming pills. I also had tests down around that time and the doc mentioned I had something that appeared to be muscle weakness/degeneration.

General Discussion / Re: Have I caught something from eating raw meat?
« on: January 30, 2016, 07:59:12 pm »
Farmed deer are probably eating a lot of grain. It's possible, though not especially likely, that you got a trichinosis parasite from it.

Damm. Maybe not, but Im pretty sure I caught something. Any tips?

General Discussion / Have I caught something from eating raw meat?
« on: January 30, 2016, 03:44:33 pm »
I gave the raw primal diet a good try, but it didn't work for me. I found the raw dairy beneficial, and maybe the raw lambs liver, but not the raw meat. My primal diet experience culminated in me buying and eating some of the organs and fat of raw, organic, farmed deer. I butchered it myself and cleaned it as best I could. It was gross and didn't make me fell good at all, but I was never sick.  However, about 2.5 weeks later I started feeling really weak, and Ive had that feeling for about 6 months. I actually feel like Im getting weaker.
Maybe its not related to what I ate, but I think it could be. Could I have caught something and if so, what, and how can I treat it?

General Discussion / Freshly squeezed juice is pasteurized
« on: July 29, 2015, 01:43:52 am »
Fruit is my main source of carbs and I love it. Ive been drinking top quality "freshly sqeezed, not-from-concentrate" juice for many years, as well as fresh carrot and beet juice from the store. Ive just found out that all the companies i buy from pasteurize their fruit juice. I knew juice concentrates were bad, but i just didnt think the "fresh orange juice with pulp", which was always a lot easier to digest and less disruptive on my blood sugar, would be pasteurized. I drunk only my own freshly made juice today and felt another step up in my health.

Health / Cancer treatment
« on: July 24, 2015, 01:06:54 am »
What sort of diet, lifestyle and supps would you recommend for cancer?

General Discussion / Re: Define raw cheese - Temperature and cooking
« on: July 19, 2015, 12:40:18 pm »
Make your own. But I generally don't recommend dairy for most people. It's too allergenic, and has too much calcium versus magnesium.

Thanks for your advice. I feel better on dairy, at least small amounts so i think ill continue. I love the taste of raw milk thickened with cream and  blended wth raw honey, banana and some raw eggs.

General Discussion / Define raw cheese - Temperature and cooking
« on: July 18, 2015, 07:53:44 pm »
Its very hard to find raw cheese in Australia. Although raw milk is illegal, raw cheese isnt, as long as the cheese is heated and processed to a point that satisfies the ruling nazi party. I contacted a cheese maker who imports raw cheese from Switzerland and requested some raw cheese heated no higher than 105 degrees (I read this was the point in which enzymes were destroyed and the cheese was no longer "raw"). He said that is illegal, and I believe he said all raw cheeses made or imported into Australia had to be heated to at least 122. If I buy raw cheese cooked to this degree, am I wasting my time/money? Do I need to make sure it is only heated under 105? I bought a cheese kit online so will make my own if required but that will take a lot of time/effort to make and mature. Oh, and Im after hard cheese like cheddar. I dont want to just let milk sour and scoop off the fermented curds. Tried that and didnt like it.

General Discussion / Re: Is slow cooking on low temp ok?
« on: July 14, 2015, 02:24:44 pm »
Was just watching a video by Paul Check on youtube called "what is the best diet" At the end he says that in his extensive experience many people do not have the digestive power to digest an all raw diet and a mix of cooked and raw foods can be best. He basically concludes that the best diet is a "flex-a-tarian" diet; In other words, we all have different requirements based on lifestyle, stress, genetics etc.  Even the two authorities im appealing too on this raw meat diet experiment disagree greatly: AV eats shit loads of dairy, and Sabertooth cant eat it at all.

Can anyone comment is his assertion that cooked food can be easier for those to digest? This assertion directly contradicts claims made by AV and others on this forum. I have certainly found that slow cooked meat is far easier for me to absorb

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General Discussion / Re: Is slow cooking on low temp ok?
« on: July 14, 2015, 11:26:08 am »
That's not true, he started drinking carrot juice and raw milk when he was eighteen and I believe it was 7 years later he ate the rabbit. Mabee he was 19 or so I when he drank the milk it's been years since I read the book but I am certain he started drinking raw milk long before he ate the rabbit.

Thats true, yes. I meant his real diet epiphany started with the rabbit. The milk and carrot juice improved him, but he was still without answers and even went to die in the desert. It was when he ate the rabbit that he knew he had found the answer. Thats what im looking for: the answer, whatever it may be.

General Discussion / Re: Is slow cooking on low temp ok?
« on: July 14, 2015, 11:24:07 am »

Does it feel like a cramp? Heat? Tearing?

It feels like really bad inflammation. Many years ago Id have periods where i fasted and felt a lot better, then id eat, and after a few days id feel like id been poisoned. I thought it was a food allergy but spent years on that theory. Its not so much what i was eating, but some fundamental flaw in my digestive tract. Of course, what im eating may be able to heal it or make it worse, but my reaction was not to a certain food stuff itself.

General Discussion / Re: Is slow cooking on low temp ok?
« on: July 14, 2015, 03:51:01 am »
Aajonus was eating rotten meat first I believe? And he had also been drinking raw milk for years before he started on raw meat too if I remember correctly. Some people have trouble with cows milk. I started on goat milk and a lot of fermented vegetables and kefir as well as a lot of raw honey. I suggest boosting your digestive system with probiotics and enzyme rich foods. Also raw fish would likely be easier to digest than raw meat. Also raw whey followed by raw eggs are the easiest foods of all to digest. Mercolla suggested the optimal diet for muscle gain was 5 servings of raw whey a day and only one solid food meal at the end of the day.

AV did have a little bit of rotten meat, but he said he ate 3.5 pounds of rabbit and felt great. That was the tipping point. Then he started eating raw meat of all sorts in the desert before hitting up farmers for milk and other met cuts. For him the benefits were instantaneous.

General Discussion / Re: Is slow cooking on low temp ok?
« on: July 14, 2015, 03:49:05 am »
How large are the pieces you're eating? Try slicing it up into small pieces, against the grain.

Where are you feeling pain? In your gut?

The pieces are really small. I even blend them into mash with some honey and avocado. Size definately isn't an issue

The pain is in my midsection. I actually feel it in my back, not in my front at all. Its unbearable and has been for years. Most nights it wakes me up. It got really bad after a tried a cooked paleo diet for 5 months. Of course, no medical tests show anything, but the location is either my stomach, liver, gallbladder or pancreas. Ive studied the digestive tract and the pain definitely radiates from an organ related to digestion. I really just want to sip on juices and eat fruit and nuts.

General Discussion / Re: Is slow cooking on low temp ok?
« on: July 14, 2015, 03:11:41 am »
Thanks for the advice. Its really frustrating because eating raw makes perfect sense, but i still get bad pain and discomfort when doing so, and im not better after many months of raw meat eating. And its not just about taste, its the pain -  Id happily eat a large plate of raw dog shit every day for the rest of my life if i could just feel better. Certainly eating 200 grams of roasted pork would keel me over in pain and exhaustion which is incomparable to the raw meat pain, but the pain is still significant enough to deter me from eating animal products, and yet this is what im told is the cure.

Switching to raw dairy has made a huge difference, but I havent had that instant acceptance of raw meat like AV had ("near death experience") or Sabertooth (who said he was better in 2 weeks).  I just dont know whether the pain will go away if i keep eating it as it will heal me, or whether im just tormenting myself by forcing myself to eat it. I dont know whether i need to eat more (Ive heard i should eat up to 3 pounds of meat), or increase it slowly.

I know many cultures ate cooked and uncooked animal products. Maybe i should just do that. We are all unique too. Seafood makes me sick and has done since i was a kid.

General Discussion / Is slow cooking on low temp ok?
« on: July 14, 2015, 01:38:16 am »
Im finding all this raw meat/fat eating quite hard. Sometimes I feel better eating it, sometimes worse. I nearly always feel better after I slow cook my food. Its so tasty and easy to digest. I made some super fatty pineapple pork steaks and cooked them on low for about 6 hours and could swallow them effortlessly like a pelican. Eating that amount raw would be stressful and take me about an hour. If I roasted them id be in pain and exhausted for hours. Is it ok to eat low temp slow cooked food? Is it far worse than raw? Should i perhaps do both?

Primal Diet / Re: AV diet
« on: July 14, 2015, 01:04:07 am »
I havent bought his second book. I wasnt sure whether it was worth buying. is it?

Are those recommendations his daily diet for putting on weight? If so, that amount is incredible!! Up to  720 grams of extra fat!?! wtf!
Also, by meat, does be mean lean meat?

Can you tell me what he would eat on a daily basis?

Primal Diet / AV's daily diet
« on: July 11, 2015, 01:12:33 pm »
Does anyone know exactly what AV ate daily? I read he ate up to 25 eggs daily? I also saw in that ripleys video he ate high meat every day.

General Discussion / Just bought Lamb fat
« on: July 11, 2015, 11:56:43 am »
I just bought some lamb fat from my butcher. Unfortunately I couldn't get organic this time, but it is grass fed- is that a major problem? Also, I think I saw a pig getting slaughtered and they cooked the hair off the skin; is that a problem with the fat I have in that it has probably been singed like that?

General Discussion / Re: High meat - procedure and tips
« on: June 24, 2015, 11:50:08 am »
This is how im keeping my meat outside the firgde. Simply some jars in a plastic container with glad wrap over it. Impenetrable to flies. I think this is fine.

Also, what do you guys think of my 2-3 week old organic lamb liver? Ok to eat now?

General Discussion / Re: High meat - procedure and tips
« on: June 24, 2015, 12:11:33 am »
Flies can be very good indeed at laying their eggs in hard to find places around a lid. So that, when you lift the lid, only a tiny number of eggs fall in without you noticing and the meat gets  subsequently covered in maggots.

I read that but I dont think its very likely, surely? And even if it does, cant i just pick the maggots off?

General Discussion / Re: High meat - procedure and tips
« on: June 24, 2015, 12:10:30 am »
Read my previous post about time and temperature. For example, I make the most incredibly delicious sauerkraut at room temperature all winter long, but come the summer, the same process produces the vilest flavor because the bacteria the thrive at a winter temperature of 65 degrees F. are different from those that thrive at 80 degrees F. in the summer.

Try two batches, one in the fridge and one at room temperature. Don't forget oxygen in both batches, and prevent the surfaces from drying out. (That would product dried meat, not high meat.) See what you get, and if you like it.

Great advice Eve. Ill experiment a bit. How do prevent the surfaces from drying out?

General Discussion / Re: High meat - procedure and tips
« on: June 23, 2015, 05:08:25 pm »
It's "okay" to eat meat all the way from fresh and warm until it's so high you don't like it anymore.

Have you read this thread?:

Thanks eve! Thats answered most of my questions. I wasn't convinced by the "leave outside and flys get to it theory" though. Couldn't the jars be stored in a cupboard or behind some fly proof mesh to keep them out? Wouldn't that be better than keeping them in the cool of the fridge which i assume would slow down the process?

General Discussion / Re: High meat - procedure and tips
« on: June 23, 2015, 12:24:29 pm »
What bacteria are you hoping to utilize? There is a certain cycle in decomposing foods, and it depends on time and temperature. You'll have less control at higher temperatures, and need to air your batch quite frequently.n Are you really interesting in "procedure and tips," or do you want someone to approve your method?

As with any new venture, it is wise to learn the "traditional" ways before you branch out with your own variations. Once you have mastered the traditional, make small adjustments to try out your own ideas. Remember to keep some of each experimental batch that you ingest so that the emergency room pathologists can find out how to resuscitate you. (That's an LOL!)

Well i just cut up some organic chicken and put it in a jar in the fridge. Is that ok? How long should i leave it? Ive done the same with liver that is now two weeks old. I have aired it every few days. Is that ok to eat now? I have no idea if we are talking days, weeks, months or years.

General Discussion / Re: High meat - procedure and tips
« on: June 23, 2015, 10:00:43 am »
The fridge. Leaving it out in the sun allows flies to lay eggs which turn into live maggots.

It will be covered though. My impatience wants the process to be fast so i can try it. I assume leaving in the fridge will slow it down?

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