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Primal Diet / Re: Raw dairy fat versus raw dairy protein digestion
« on: January 29, 2019, 09:14:48 am »
@van
Please provide a link to this because you failed to do it for me last time.

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Primal Diet / Re: Raw dairy fat versus raw dairy protein digestion
« on: January 27, 2019, 03:06:42 pm »
@thehadezb
A third of of the total volume of milk you drink should be cream added in.
You can also mix in eggs as well

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Health / Re: Allergies, Immunity, and Healing
« on: January 27, 2019, 03:03:31 pm »
If you focus your diet on having tons of raw fresh = never frozen animal fats like butter cream eggs and marrow which are easy to digest that will do everything you want and more
Never treat nuts and oils as fats.

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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 27, 2019, 02:48:48 pm »
@sabertooth
Wow I would have never thought your family of all is mostly cooked.
I can never go back to the old ways, cooked food is hell to me.

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Health / Re: Science of Tooth Yellowing and Decay
« on: January 25, 2019, 10:23:25 pm »
Have you been actually reading through a single one of my comments?
That is not what I am saying at all!!!
Holy shit to think you can be so close minded you dont't even have to read the other persons replys when making a response!
Reread my last** comment I am specifically talking about what a person just ate I am agreeing with you that sugar causes placque and how but disagreeing with you on the nature of bacteria.***


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Health / Re: Science of Tooth Yellowing and Decay
« on: January 25, 2019, 02:29:38 pm »
@van
Unhealthy bacteria/people producing different amounts of bacteria regardless of what they eat?
not really convincing.
If logically bacteria feeds on the enviornment based on the foods you eat then all bacteria would be necessary and beneficially specific to manage the stuff you just ate since they live off it.
Whether the particular bacteria is acidic would make sense to be dependant on the acidity of what you were eatingbut it's still considered detox.
Detoxing bacteria**

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frozen food is all trash fresh is never frozen

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Health / Re: Science of Tooth Yellowing and Decay
« on: January 24, 2019, 04:36:47 am »
@sabertooth
He lost teeth after radiation then regained most of his oral health after consuming dairy
The same as me minus the radiation part.

@van
Whenever I used to get alot of placque and bad breath collection on the tongue etc it was ALWAYS after waking up from a long nap or in the morning in particular.
All those things you mention can be explained by general detox pretty easily, its not like I am exclusively talking about heavy metals or some crazy shit, its quite reasonable.


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Health / Re: Science of Tooth Yellowing and Decay
« on: January 23, 2019, 11:45:48 am »
AV makes far more sense to me that bacteria is a progress or more like a beneficial reaction to detoxification rather than a cause of buildup, an attempt of defense against erosion of the teeth due to detox even.


On a side note I do not really get tartar on my diet.

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Health / Re: Science of Tooth Yellowing and Decay
« on: January 23, 2019, 10:28:18 am »
@norawnofun
Not always, for example I used to get tartar whenever eating liver which is high in minerals that attract heavy metal detox.
You once said you got tartar from drinking mineral water, I think there are levels of detox when it comes to oral health.
Sugar is one cause, AGES and cooked food big ones etc etc

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Health / Re: Science of Tooth Yellowing and Decay
« on: January 23, 2019, 09:57:13 am »
@van
most of the things you are describing are detox.

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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 23, 2019, 05:26:30 am »
The passage cited about starch is incredibly situational, 99% of clients wouldn't have probably been recommended it, he writes on and on about this for well over two paragraphs and goes into more detail whenever asked about it.

Over consumption of honey in recipes? Maybe if the person is hypoglycemic or we are talking about his cheesecake desert recipe etc.
In the primal diet workshops written years before the book he would always mention a typical daily allowance of 6 tbsp of honey for every pound of raw meat that is eaten in a day. He reasoned that the body only treats 10 percent of honey as sugar.
For example honey butter ratio is 1 tbsp of honey for every 8 tbsp of butter.
Honey also reacts differently when mixed with food then had by itself or loosely mixed.

ACV is obviously only used in remedies for people looking for help or in a meat sauce and usually in tiny amounts unless they have like liver/bladder stones or something.
We are talking three dates maximum with an equal amount of fat in volume minimum it will not cause issues.
Every precaution is described with honey and fruit.
When you Consider this guy was a nutritionist for decades that allegedly had thousands of clients and had to deal with his own stuff too, its no wonder he mentions so much in his books.

With how many hours of material you can go through with this the last thing you should do is take everything he says out of context for no reason other than "muh orthorexia".



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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 23, 2019, 02:41:19 am »
@tyler
2 can be revoked if you have a solid gut and do it in small amounts dispersed like ajanous does to prevent constipation but most people probably will never do that unless they are very nauseous and sick people.

About fasting, there are so many foods to eat instead of starving yourself its without saying just useless.
Unless you are nauseous or sick and your body is telling you NOT to eat its terrible advice to ever fast, especially for many people like me who were thin as thin on the ropes so much that they dare to find this forum and eat raw meat.
The only other time you fast is when you regularly consume cooked food because it poison.

options instead of fasting
egg (one every hour),
cheese (1tsp every 30 min),
blood (high in enzymes)
certain juices or certain fruit (also high in enzymes)
caviar,
AV milkshakes (sipping 2 ounces or less every 20 minutes),

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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 23, 2019, 02:11:38 am »
Maybe you should re read them then because you are obviously lost.
Ajanous NEVER reccomended eating bread unless you were a quote un quote "wife beater" he has stated the one time he did it in his book he had not eaten it in 15 something years and that was because when he did his son was supposedly in a paralyzing car accident.

fruits high in sugar, really? The guy ate fruit once every 3 days maximum and when he did he ALWAYS ate fruit unripe or mostly fruit low in sugar
(8 tbsp max), he allegedly used to have juvenile diabetes before the diet.
If anything he was incredibly cautious about sugar and talks about the effects of AGES (for example in honey) quite alot in his workshops and books.
Since when did I say I eat whole vegetables?
If you only do well on cream its probably because your farmer is freezing your butter but refrigerating your cream like mine is.
Frozen butter is TOXIC even when it is raw to me.  If that is the case buy cream, wait for it to warm then get a small blender and make it into butter yourself (frozen fat is trash imo).

The misinformation I see on this forum about Ajanous especially is just phenomenal.

edit* I never said tartar on teeth is "only positive" you are moving from one extreme to the next.

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Primal Diet / Re: Hydration mineral water versus veg juices
« on: January 23, 2019, 01:52:16 am »
@gatsuri
Ajanous had an alternative to veg juice when its not available in a pinch,
naturally sparkling water like gerolsteiner with a little honey, fat like cream, a few tbsp of lemon or lime and I think maybe a tiny amount of ACV.

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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 22, 2019, 07:55:28 am »
@norawnofun
I am losing brain cells reading this comment, what a toxic forum.
You were incredibly fresh raw fat deficient.

1. You should NEVER eat pasteurized dairy or cooked fats
2. even verifiably raw cheese must be eaten with at least an equal amount of raw never frozen fat
3. drinking water with food dilutes digestive juices horribly. 
4. rock salt is poison
5. fasting is fucking pointless.
6. goat dairy is very high in protein and very low in fat.
7. tartar on teeth/tongue is detox

Have you read the recipe for living without disease yet?




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Journals / Re: Pagangoyims Journal
« on: January 19, 2019, 06:06:10 am »
-Now using a food processor to pate all my meats, this is going incredibly well and is allowing me to eat more red meat where I could only eat the juiciest of select cuts before or suffer pain/fatigue.

-I am also using some meat sauces borrowed from the recipe for living without disease which I spread over meat meals.
This is also increasing my digestive ability what feels like ten fold.

So far since incorporating both high quality Dairy and also juicing into my daily diet I have successfully gained 27 pounds 15 of that coming almost entirely as a result of dairy.
Soon after I ditched all cooked food and started eating raw (in the very beginning) I lost 5 POUNDS of non digesting cooked foods stuck throughout my digestive tract.

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Primal Diet / Re: Constipation or better absorption when eating High Meat
« on: January 19, 2019, 05:43:18 am »
Same happens to me only with butter, the body just sucks it all up.

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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 15, 2019, 04:37:47 am »
@van
quote
" The cream in it is the only fat that ***completely*** nutrifies the brain and nervous system. Butter can do it about two thirds, but raw cream and milk does it 100%."

In the short time I have looked into AV I have seen far more misquotes targeted toward him then accurate ones.

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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 13, 2019, 04:33:29 pm »
There are sources to support the claims made by ajanous regarding bone health and so on in this free pdf

https://www.wewant2live.com/shop/petition-and-report-in-favor-of-natural-milk-pdf/

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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 13, 2019, 04:16:23 pm »
"Dairy, ultimately, is meant to sustain and help infants of the very species it is created from, that's all."
autism much?
A page from the ww2l members area

Raw Milk is Safe But Beware of Big Commercial Milks
 July 29, 2014  admin  Subscriber Content   
Viewed 12 times since 15 July 2018
Raw Milks are Safe and Nutritious but Beware of Big Commercial Milks

Aajonus Vonderplanitz

Okay, milk. Delicious, wonderful milk. Milk is one of the most nutritious foods there is.

 

Besides the egg, it is the most easily digestible. It only takes 6 - 10 hours to digest - raw milk of course.

 

Once it’s pasteurized, 50% of the calcium is cauterized. That means it’s hardened into a substance that can’t be utilized to do what it’s supposed to do in the body, including building healthy tissue.

 

It has a tendency to build brittle bones and dry tissue when you’re drinking pasteurized milk.

 

Milk is the most easily digested food, next to eggs. It only takes 6 - 10 hours. It’s already liquid, so the body doesn’t have to do much with hydrochloric acid or any of the digestive juices. What it will do is infiltrate with bacteria and as I said earlier, bacteria is the main process of digestion so all it has to do is infiltrate it.

 

Egg is the most digestible and that digests in a matter of 27 minutes. Again, it doesn’t require any hydrochloric acid or digestive juices to pre-digest it, to break larger particles of food down into smaller particles of food so that bacteria can eat it - consume it.

 

And of course, their waste is our food.

 

If you buy regular milk from a big milk company, you’ll notice that they say it’s milk, fat-free. That’s because they will take the milk, they’ll remove all animal fat from it and they will put oils and esters in place of it. They’re usually vegetable oils, and remember what I said about vegetable oils - they will crystallize and harden in the body. So when you’re drinking a very well-known, famous brand of milk, what they’ve basically done is taken the milk, they’ve deprived it of protein and they’ve deprived it of the fats. And it’s a blue liquid. It has no relationship to milk at all and it will have a very long shelf-life.

 

So then what they do is they take dolomite - mined calcium, calcium concentrated rock - and they shovel it into the vats to turn this blue fluid back into a white fluid. It’s all a hoax: there is no relationship to milk at all in it. Plus they use hydrogenated vegetable oils which are plastic. So you have something that is totally foreign and chemical, and it isn’t milk at all.

 

The only place you can get totally pure raw milk is from a farmer who produces raw milk. There are a few states you can get it commercially in stores, but not many: California is one, and you can go into some stores… Whole Foods is a joke again. Whole Foods stopped carrying raw milk in California when they could. They say it’s an insurance issue. It has nothing to do with insurance, they’ve carried insurance before. I talked to the insurance company and they are very willing to continue to insure that food, just like they insure the meats and everything else. So, raw milk is a wonderful food, it helps calm the body. The cream in it is the only fat that completely nutrifies the brain and nervous system. Butter can do it about two thirds, but raw cream and milk does it 100%.

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Primal Diet / Re: Hydration mineral water versus veg juices
« on: December 20, 2018, 01:00:14 am »
Cucumber should be at least an hour before or after eating to prevent indigestion, tomato can be had anytime in smaller amounts.

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@saberooth
Sounds delicious holy shit

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Primal Diet / Re: Red Meat Intolerance?
« on: December 20, 2018, 12:49:03 am »
If you can find a good source for chicken get it, otherwise continue to be in pain.
Or you can try pateing the beef and making it high.

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Primal Diet / Re: Hydration mineral water versus veg juices
« on: December 15, 2018, 06:14:11 am »
You can potentially skip a meal just drinking blood but the important thing is to listen to instinct.

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