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Hot Topics / Re: Ray Peat podcast...interesting!
« on: February 29, 2012, 02:35:28 pm »
Thanks, that reminds me that I'm back to drinking tea again too. I take breaks from tea and coffee and watch for any signs of withdrawal, to make sure I don't overload or build up plant toxins or any such thing. I don't drink a lot anyway. My main tea/coffee beverage is actually spruce tips tea either lightly heated or just allowed to soak in water. Yummy stuff. The tea itself is dried, of course, and therefore possibly heated, but I'm not currently a purist anyway.

I do the same with coffee and tea, and they don't seem to affect me negatively like the used to, and I never get addicted. :-)

General Discussion / Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
« on: February 25, 2012, 02:33:03 am »
Thanks for doing a video in English!  You have such a cute voice :-)  I like your beef and fat "sushi"!  Kind of like a maki roll!  I think I'm going to do this with my meat. 

General Discussion / Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
« on: February 22, 2012, 02:01:36 pm »
Inger!!  You are beautiful!  I too would love to hear what you are saying in English--the only other language I understand a little is German, unfortunately.
How do you make the fish broth?  What kind of fish do you use?
Do you get your meat and organs fresh, or frozen?
I can't believe that old picture is you! that I think about it...I bet some old pictures of me would have just as big of a difference...I should dig up some old pictures and compare!

Wai Dieters / Re: Commercial Bananas: The Worlds Most Destructive Crop
« on: February 22, 2012, 02:52:03 am »

Wai Dieters / Re: Commercial Bananas: The Worlds Most Destructive Crop
« on: February 20, 2012, 11:21:34 am »
Wow...that is horrible!!  But, good to know.  Good thing I'm not a huge fan of bananas...;-)
What types of fruits are typically cultivated in a more eco-friendly manner?  A huge problem I've been having lately is finding ripe fruit that is organic.  There just isn't any around here!  What do you think of eating conventional fruit that is ripe, and maybe peeling the skin off?  Fruits are a large part of my diet now, so i I just worry about pesticide contamination...

Journals / Re: GoodSamaritan's Experiments
« on: February 19, 2012, 08:38:15 am »
This is true.  We have so many international members here, there's got to a be a way to use that fact to make some money.
I second this idea!  Me and my husband's goal is to have some sort of online business so we can be financially independent and not have to worry about working for anyone.  You have NO idea how happy I will be when that happens...:-))

And also, great journal GS!  You have inspired me to start documenting what I am doing for my health.

General Discussion / Re: Candida/SIBO causing bloating ... fiber question
« on: February 19, 2012, 03:16:19 am »
Thanks for the reply, joej.
After lots of experimenting and reading, I've decided to do a raw paleo + GAPS + Ray Peat style diet.  This combination just makes the most sense to me. 
So, bone broth soups, juiced oranges, tropical fruits, shellfish, raw meat and marrow, coconut oil, raw honey, raw or cooked eggs, cooked squash, raw milk, raw cheese....
Plus thyroid supplement, progesterone and pregnenolone. 
We'll see how it goes!

General Discussion / Re: Candida/SIBO causing bloating ... fiber question
« on: February 18, 2012, 09:59:53 am »
Oh, its not actually THAT old, I guess but i kinda forgot about it haha.  But I am glad you replied to it so you reminded me!!
I am still having gas and bloating problems, and I'm not exactly sure what is causing it because it seems to come and go completely randomly.
Thanks for the link to the diatomaceous earth!  I think I might give that a try.
I did try the coconut oil cleanse but didn't make it more than a few hours before puking it all up LOL.  So that didn't work so well, unfortuently. :-P

General Discussion / Re: Candida/SIBO causing bloating ... fiber question
« on: February 18, 2012, 02:03:39 am »
Thanks for digging up this old topic, guys!  I kinda forgot about haha...
Yeah, lately I haven't been eating any veggies at all, except for the "fruit-veggies" like cucumbers, and a carrot or two. 
I have also started straining my kefir too!  Glad to hear it helps you as well!
I'll have to give the diatamaceous earth thing a try--where do you get the edible stuff from?

Instincto / Anopsology / Re: birdfeed
« on: February 14, 2012, 11:32:23 am »
Yeah, I'm wondering  about the same thing, Adora.  I got some wild venison from a friend at work, and then he told me "yeah, it tastes really great because practically all they eat is the corn from the corn-fields around here!" 
...which I don't think is so great :-(

Hot Topics / Re: Ray Peat podcast...interesting!
« on: February 13, 2012, 02:06:38 pm »
So you'd ask a lab scientist why something he says is bad happens to work in the real world?  That sounds like a waste of time to me.  If eating fish didn't work then the Eskimos, Samoans, Japanese, etc., would be having health problems from it.  They don't, though.  Also, none of those groups mentions avoiding fatty fish.  In fact, all the groups Dr. Price studied PRIZED animal fats, including fatty fish. 

Well, I just mean I'd be curious to hear what he has to say about that; I'm not questioning the fact that those cultures all obviously thrived on eating lots of fatty fish. 

I have read Dr. Price's book, and actually own it--I should really re-read it; I haven't for awhile!  Traditional foods diets are where I originally started, when I got interested in researching healing through diet about 4-5 years ago. 
It just seems to me that sometimes modern people with messed up health need more than just a healthy traditional diet to totally heal, which is why I am interested in Dr. Peat's work.  For instance, some of the people that Dr. Price studied ate grains as a good portion of their diets and were still healthy, but that obviously won't work for a lot of people nowadays.  Dr. Peat's research is very interesting to me because based on what I have learned from him, I am almost 100% sure I'm hypothyroid, and that that is the underlying cause of my MS diagnosis. 

Also, his dietary suggestions, with a raw=paleo slant added, are very very close to what I ended up leaning towards instinctively on my own...sweet fruits, raw dairy, raw honey, raw meat/organs, saturated fats, bone broth.  And supplementing thyroid hormone by eating raw bison thyroid makes me feel A LOT better!

Hot Topics / Re: Ray Peat podcast...interesting!
« on: February 13, 2012, 01:10:05 am »
Yeah, I like that he always has tons of references listed at the ends of his articles.  I know some people say he "uses too many rat studies LOL" but it seems that the studies he does refrence, he looks at very critically to make sure they also apply to humans.  I think in one podcast, he mentions that the reason researchers were able to "prove" estrogen was beneficial was because of something that is specific to rats (since they are nocturnal) that doesn't actually apply to humans!  So its not like he's not aware of the differences between rodents and humans. 

The last 6 days or so, I've been eating a mostly-raw paleo version of Ray Peat's dietary reccomendations, and have been feeling fabulous!  Lots of energy and very positive mindset.  I've been using bison thyroid (raw, of course haha!) for my thyroid supplement, and I have a couple of other hormone supplements he reccomends coming in the mail, so we'll see how that goes.  My temps are still in the 96's and 97's, so no improvement there yet.   So, we'll see...:-)

The one thing I'd like to hear him address is the health of island populations that seem to eat a lot of the omega-3 rich fish, seeing as he's so critical of the unsaturated fatty acids.  Maybe I'll have to ask him that...

General Discussion / Re: SUET shelf life rancidity
« on: February 10, 2012, 04:50:19 am »
I supposed suet might not agree with some people, and at first it DID taste kind of blah and waxy-textured to me.  However, now I absolutely LOVE it...especially chopped up and mixed with meat.  I recently got some bison suet, and it is so dark yellow its practically orange!! YUMMM!

General Discussion / Re: Alternative Uses for Bone Marrow Bones
« on: February 08, 2012, 01:59:05 am »
Ohh, good idea Joy!

Hot Topics / Re: Ray Peat podcast...interesting!
« on: February 08, 2012, 01:57:31 am »
Oh yes, good suggestions!  I do follow all those other people that you mentioned as well!

General Discussion / Re: Alternative Uses for Bone Marrow Bones
« on: February 07, 2012, 01:50:26 pm »
Er....I dunno...I've heard both ways.
I have a compost pile where I just keep piling it they say to do in the "Humanure Handbook" (cept there's no humanure in mine LOL).
However, I don't really know how to get the done compost out now, because its all stuck on the bottom...
And I'm afraid I ruined it because I mixed in a bunch of black walnut tree leaves....
So, probably don't listen to my composting advice LOL!!!!!

Hot Topics / Re: Ray Peat podcast...interesting!
« on: February 07, 2012, 01:43:16 pm »
Yeah, PP, I love those TV shows where those chef guys journey to different countries and eat crazy I'm sure they expect the viewers to be like "ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!" when they're eating brains and fermented meat and bugs, but I'm all like "Oh, YUM, I wanna try some tooooo!!" haha :-P  Speaking of brains, I have my first lamb brain coming in the mail!  It costs $10 for a whole one--is that a decent deal?

WOW thanks for that info about processed stuff!  Just one more reason I'm glad I never buy that kind of crap/food anymore!!!  I can't believe the things that pass as "food" these days...:-S

I will definitely be making my own OJ with my Champion juicer.  I've heard that the GreenStar ones are even better and get more juice out, but I think they're kinda pricey.  I just catch the pulp that comes out with my hand and put it through a couple more times LOL!

Yeah, the one thing that bothered me was Ray Peat's lack of emphasis on food quality, but on the other hand, he doesn't specifically reccomend low-quality food either.  It might be just a lack of knowledge on his part in that area of know how sometimes people are very either left brained or right brained?  He seems SUPER focused and knowledgeable about how the body works and hormones etc, but not so much about the spiritual, nourishing, traditional aspects of food.  So I use his research for the more technical side of things, you know?

That is also interesting about turbinado sugar.  I wasn't sure if it was actually raw or not, but that makes sense if its processed by a turbine...duh...turbinado LOL just made that connection! ;-)  I think I might actually have some in the cupboard from when I used to make kombucha (I just kept forgetting it and letting my scoby die...bad me!!!). 
I totally share your view on how the way your food was produced/where it came from has an effect on your body--if the animals were happy, and other things sustainable harvested etc, by people who acutally care about what they're doing, that good karma is going to be passed on!

General Discussion / Re: Alternative Uses for Bone Marrow Bones
« on: February 07, 2012, 01:31:08 pm »
Thanks Dorothy! <3

@Zym--;-)  Ancient art form, modern methods!

I also make bone broth out of them, give them to my dog, or throw them in the compost.

General Discussion / Re: Alternative Uses for Bone Marrow Bones
« on: February 07, 2012, 11:58:58 am »
Well, I do use electric tools haha (how very un-paleo of me, tsk tsk!!! LOL) ;-)   ...a flex shaft rotary tool (like a dremel), a scroll saw and a bench grinder. 

I do also want to learn more with non-electric tools.  I'm pretty sure all kinds of files, scrapers, chisels, jewelrs saw, sand paper etc. would work for hand tools.  The only thing that is holding me back from switching is the electric tool is quicker and I already have it, and I don't have the money right now to get all the hand tools I'd need.  But someday!!  Because I find carving with hand tools much more relaxing, and less dusty and noisy. :-)

Health / Re: Paleodiet and hairloss
« on: February 07, 2012, 11:38:55 am »
Danny Roddy has a whole website devoted to diet and hairloss.  Its .  He's not necesarrily 100% raw paleo, but kind of has a mashup of paleo + Ray Peat style dietary suggestions (he even has a post called something like 'Raw Paleo + Ray Peat = FTW!'). 
He has a free "quick start" guide you can download I think.  I've found going back and reading past blog posts and comments very informative.
Hope that helps! :-)

General Discussion / Re: Alternative Uses for Bone Marrow Bones
« on: February 07, 2012, 11:29:56 am »
I carve mine into earrings ~ ~
So far I've only done a couple from my marrow bones, as they are a bit of a pain in the butt to clean.  Apparently, an enzymatic cloth diaper cleaner is the best...or just letting them sit out in the garden for the ants to do it (which unfortuently won't work now because its winter here).  I've just been heating them in water and dish soap, which works fairly well but doesn't get them 100% clean. 

...thanks, this reminds me to go searching for enzymatic diaper cleaner...haha ;-)

Hot Topics / Re: Ray Peat podcast...interesting!
« on: February 06, 2012, 10:51:36 am »
Thanks for the input, guys!
I'm  not sure if Dr. Peat actually said muscle meat is a neolithic food...what I meant was basically eating all muscle meat is more of a modern society thing, not something traditional.  Kind of worded it wrong, sorry :-{
Like you said PP, we don't typically have access to little creatures like lizards, snakes etc, that could be eaten whole.

Hot Topics / Re: Ray Peat podcast...interesting!
« on: February 06, 2012, 07:01:24 am »
Ah HA--here it is!  From Danny Roddy's "Hair like a Fox" (<---tee hee, I love that title!) blog:

"Some may reply that bone broth is optimal for those with compromised digestion. I would agree, but bone broth is annoying to make and does not contain the same spectrum of nutrients that muscle meats do. A temporary solution at best.

After some more snooping around on Stepan Stastny's Facebook page, there may be a solution. Pottinger suggested that gelatinous protein is not needed when you do not cook meat:

?"If man did not cook his food, there would be no need for hydrophillic colloid foods such as GELATIN to his dietary regime" F.M. Pottenger Jr., MD"

So, apparently gelatin is good becasue it is a "hydrophillic colloid" food, which must mean raw meat is as well I guess. make bone broth or not?!?  I do still eat most of my meat raw or like 99.9% raw.  I do love warm broth tho, and do have a couple of jars in my fridge and freezer...
I wish that Pottenger quote explained a little more of the WHY.

Hot Topics / Re: Ray Peat podcast...interesting!
« on: February 06, 2012, 06:18:17 am »
Yes, I like that too, PP! :-)
One thing I am curious about--Ray Peat puts a lot of emphasis on how a good portion of protein should come from sources other than muscle meats (such as gelatin-rich things like bone broth), since those are high in cystine, tryptophan etc, and also that in traditional societies, they consumed ALL of the animal...technically making muscle meat kind of almost a neolithic food! 
But then I've heard here that most feel bone broth is unnecesarry if you're eating raw meat.  But raw meat doesn't automatically have more gelatin in it than cooked, does it?  Isn't the gelatin in the joints and gristly bits that are actually kind of hard to get at raw?  How would one get raw gelatin, or is it even possible?
I do try to have a good mix of meats---like some brisket, some heart, some other organ, some suet, some marrow.  Would any of that include "gelatin"?

Hot Topics / Re: Ray Peat podcast...interesting!
« on: February 06, 2012, 02:47:28 am »
After listening to some podcasts, I think he reccomends the white sugar VS honey because he says honey can be allergenic for some people, and white sugar is more "pure".  But then he says something about very highly refined things having contaminants and toxins from the refining process, which is also bad, so I dunno exactly what kind of sugar he's talking about!  Is there naturally "filtered" white sugar?? LOL... whatev...  I'm certinely only going to use raw honey! ;-)
So if you're fine with raw honey, I don't think it should be a problem.
 I think the coca-cola he says he drinks only if he can't get any good, ripe oranges to make juice.  He said already-made OJ has some crap in it now thats not good I think.  But still, I DEF don't agree with him on the coke...soda is nasty stuff!!  But i don't think its like hes pushing it as a healthy every-day thing or anything.  Myself, I prefer just eating whole or blended fruit.

Also, I think the very high carb part of his diet is more a short-term thing, for recovering thyroid function...IMO, the whole point is to rev up your thyroid and metabolism to normal, so you CAN eat a fairly broad range of macronutrients, in a healthy paleo diet.
And if his only criticism of paleo is we "don't know what they actually ate", like you said PaleoPhil, its actually not much of a criticism, because we don't really base it on that anyways!
Oh!  and he has a couple of FASCINATING articles on multiple sclerosis, that REALLY make sense!!!!

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