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Primal Diet / Re: Longterm Primal dieters?
« on: February 20, 2012, 10:01:33 pm »
Thanx for sharing your experience Al. How about detoxes? Do you still ge them every now and then? I know a lot of people here think that if you keep having small detox like symptoms regularly it probably isn't a detox but some allergy/intollerance. I'm not sure about this. I think the primal diet is the most detoxing variant of the paleo diet and since it is impossible to not get toxins in your system in this incredible toxic world it is very well possible that they are in fact real detoxes.

I used to only be able to get raw milk and some raw heavily salted cheese(supermarket). I made butter from it once but then i had 500 grams of butter and 8liter skim milk that i wasn't interested in so I did it just that once. I just got of the phone with my new found supplier(farmer) of raw butter and cheese. He told me they make the butter once every 2 weeks and than freeze it. He agreed to sell me the butter unfrozen next time. I'll go get some of the frozen one this afternoon. Do you have any experience with frozen butter? I know AV isn't very fond of it.

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General Discussion / Re: Question about Allergy
« on: February 20, 2012, 07:55:21 pm »
You seem to combine plant food with animal food at the same meal. I would strongly recommend not doing that. Plant food requires different digestive juices than animal food (basic vs acidic) so combining them hinders digestion. Both wont digest properly which might cause partly undigested particles to enter the bloodstream and cause allergic reaction.

I would try that before ditching juices, fruit or dairy. But that's just me. If this diet with lots of dairy has cleared up your skin problems I think it is rather unlikely that dairy is the problem.

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Hot Topics / Re: The Future of Food
« on: February 20, 2012, 07:46:33 pm »
The world keeps getting insaner. This is just plain scary. I wouldn't eat that meat if it was the last meat on the planet!

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Primal Diet / Re: Longterm Primal dieters?
« on: February 20, 2012, 07:35:01 pm »
Thanx Tyler I'll check that out.

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Primal Diet / Longterm Primal dieters?
« on: February 20, 2012, 04:49:34 pm »
I was wondering if there are people here who have practised AV's  dietary recommendations long term and if so how are you doing?

I recently found (after searching for it for more than a year) a supply of raw butter and no salt added raw cheese. I already had access to raw milk and seem to do very good with raw dairy. So I'm going to experiment with the Primal diet again. Last time I did, I didn't have access to raw butter so that stopped that experience.

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Personals / Re: The Hague, Holland? Any Raw Paleo Diet and Lifestyle Tips?
« on: February 20, 2012, 04:33:03 pm »
Hmm, my experience has always been that near the coast the seafood is extremely cheap(and far more likely to be raw). Trying to buy raw seafood in landlocked countries like Austria is a waste of time as it's all prefrozen, mostly consisting of farmed fish, and costs the earth.
well as i said i don't live near the coast and I don't have much experience buying seafood straight from the source. So maybe you can buy seafood cheap here. I tend to prefer land animals anyway.

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Personals / Re: The Hague, Holland? Any Raw Paleo Diet and Lifestyle Tips?
« on: February 20, 2012, 03:40:37 pm »
These are were I usually order my meat from.
http://www.freenature.nl
http://www.wildrundvlees.nl

The farm is at Kamerik which is pretty far from Den Haag (the haque) I'm sure you would be able to find a similiar farm near den Haag.

This winter was first wet and coldish(around 0) and cold (up to -18) and snowy later. Do a little research on the weather here as it can be pretty harsh on you if you come from the tropics. To me our seasons are the most wonderful thing. I enjoy summer fall winter and spring equally.

In general life is expensive here but that is compensated for by good paying jobs. But as some noted you would have to be very wealthy indeed to be able to have workers and you will never ever find a servant. Plural wifes are not allowed here.

I've no experience with wet markets as I live inland. I do know that you can get some decent seafood but don't expect it to be as good or as plentiful as you have now. Also sea food is very expensive here. Mussels are cheap but things like oysters are very expensive.

Acceptable houses for a family in the NL start at 200.000euros.

Would be awesome to have you here GS!

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Personals / Re: The Hague, Holland? Any Raw Paleo Diet and Lifestyle Tips?
« on: February 20, 2012, 12:36:06 am »
I live very near to den haag, food quality in the Netherlands is very bad. It's near impossible to get good quality meat. The only meat you can get in large quantities is pork belly and minced meat, beef is very low in fat. Chicken is uneatable, fish is fine most of the time (don't buy it in super markets). Every single piece of food is f**ked some way or the other. Fruit is never ripe, vegetables are produced on hydro-culture.
i also live int the netherlands and it is very well possible to get high quality food its just harder to find. i order free roam beef and horse meat online. these animals roam free in clean protected areas.

i get grass fed raw milk butter and cheese straight from the farm. all very good. fruit is somewhat harder but there are many organic fruit growers you can buy straight from and know what you get.

i thought it would be impossible to get any of it at first but if you put some effort in it it is very well possible.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Should I workout?
« on: February 18, 2012, 07:00:05 am »
I'm not sure about it, what about this study: http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0012033
both the high and the low intensity groups did 4 sets. wich is way to much for the high int group. every increase in intensity should be accompanied by an decrease in volume. They only measured metabolic and hormonal changes direct after training. what those test results tell is that recovery (wrongly interpreted as growth) started faster in the low intensity group which is very logical since they stressed their body way less. in the high int group the system as a whole needs longer to recouperate before anabolism can begin. this is partly because they used a way to high volume for the high int group.

if they truly wanted to test if intensity or volume is more impotant thanthey should have had one group do high int low vol and one group high vol low intense. anyone who has any experience in exercise knows that high int combined with high volume will overwork both the system as a whole and the individual muscle leading to reduced or even reversed progress.

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Hot Topics / Re: canned meat
« on: February 18, 2012, 06:24:48 am »
my own oversimplification: crap in crap out. if the bacteria feed on toxic (cooked) meat there endproducts wil also be toxic.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Should I workout?
« on: February 18, 2012, 06:20:38 am »
what happened to achilles posts?

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Should I workout?
« on: February 18, 2012, 06:18:46 am »
if you read my post you would have noticed i recommended 1 set of about 10reps. Not 1rm. there are several reasons for that: 1 intensity is never as high because one can never activate all fibers at once. during the set different fibers take over if you fail at the 10th rep you have exhausted more fibers thus bigger intensity. if you fail after to much reps however, say 30, the fibers are not exhausted but merely worked=low intensity. 2 1rm training very easily produces injurys due to much higher weights. 3 it is very difficult to maintain good form during 1rm training. 4 a cold muscle cannot be worked to max intensity. this is a protection mechanism, your nervous sytem fakes failure to protect the tendons/attachments. after the first several reps of a set however one can work a muscle to the max intensity. 5 a set of several reps as opposed to 1 rep also has cardiovascular and metabolic conditioning benefits.

so no not the maximum of both intensity and volume. Max intensity with minimun volume. the minimun volume does not mean the lowest amount possible it means the lowest amount possible without sacrificing intensity. this happen to be 1 set to utter failure for about 8-12 reps. individual fiber type can strecht these numbers somewhat to 6-8 for fast twitch subjects and 10-15 for slow twitchs but in general and for the largest part of the population 8-12 reps is solid.

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Health / Re: Strep Throat advice?
« on: February 18, 2012, 05:53:29 am »
what al said. Iwould add;  it's not just for coating the throat. both vco and honey are antisceptic helping fight the infection. honey accalerates healing of the damaged areas.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Should I workout?
« on: February 18, 2012, 04:38:00 am »
intensity is the percentage of momentairy ability. if at any time you could lift 100kg for 10reps but do only 5 intensity is low if you do 9 or 10 your working closely to your maximum ability thus intensity os high. no amount of light (low intensity) work will produce growth stimulation. one has to work very close to max intensity to trigger the body into growth. if intensity is low there is no need for growth because you are actually asking your body to do something it can already do easily.

1 set done to failure (max intensity) will stimulate growth. any aditonal work say a second set wil not produce more growth stimulation since the max stim is already triggered. it wil however drain the recovery system more. thus demanding more recovery before growth can commense.

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Hot Topics / Re: canned meat
« on: February 17, 2012, 09:59:05 pm »
Now I'm curious how you came to this conclusion :-)
Many here will confirm this from personal experience. Including me

As for the general subject of this topic. Am i the only one who finds this video slightly DISGUSTING?

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Should I workout?
« on: February 17, 2012, 09:45:57 pm »
Those UPS trucks look cool.
Really? I've always felt sorry for those driving them because they look very hard to manouver in heavy traffic/small streets. That's in nl. In the US you have a bit more space of course.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Should I workout?
« on: February 17, 2012, 09:44:10 pm »
If you want to gain some muscle; Yes you should.
Limit the volume of your workouts as much as possible to prevent overtraining. One weight training a week should be very doable with your current work shedule. Select 6-9 basic exercises (according to what equipment you have available) and do one set each to utter muscular failure. Growth stimulation is directly proportional to the INTENSITY of your workout. The greater the VOLUME of your workout the more recovery is nessecary. Adaptation (growth) comes after recovery. The ideal workout has the highest possible intensity with the lowest possible volume. Thus 1 set done to failure aim to fail between the 8th and 12th rep. But do not stop regardless of what number of reps you can actually do only terminate the set when movement becomes utterly impossible. Than adjust the weight for your next wo so you will again fail at the apropiate rep count. Move controlled in perfect form do not jerk or throw the weight as this wil produce high impact forces wich causes injury.

Idealy I would say work out on saturday so you have some rest before and after your workout. That would however mean that your saturday night should be spent recouperating from the wo wich is an unexceptable situation for many. If so workout on sunday.

Good luck!

ps feel free to pm me if you have any additional questions regarding exercise.

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Health / Re: Strep Throat advice?
« on: February 17, 2012, 06:22:41 pm »
What Al said. I would add: Coconut oil mixed with honey. Let it melt slowly in you mouth and go down your throat as slowly as possible. Do not drink for 15 mins afterwards. Done several times a day this will relieve throat pain to almost none.

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Nowadays AV recommends his NUT-FORMULA instead of cooked starches. He says some people need starches once a week to remain balanced. I tried his nut formula once it was very good. It's ground nuts mixed with honey and butter. Basically it tasted like an expensive praliné.

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Hot Topics / Re: Supplementing; what do u recommend?
« on: February 15, 2012, 10:38:52 pm »
1) Taste; tastes good for a change
To each his own but i prefer a good piece of meat over those horrible shakes!
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2) a source of easily absorbable proteins and amino acids
So are eggs, meat, dairy
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3) more effective than any other food or protein source after workouts
Very doubtfull. If a workout was intense enough to trigger the growth reflex your body will grow. Whey is a very fast digesting protein so maybe recovery (which comes before growth) starts a little faster. However if the body is triggered into adaptation it will as long as reasonable nutrients are provided. The adaptation is triggered by training and made possible by nutrition. Do you really doubt proteins from meat eggs etc will not provide enough nutrients for growth whereas some protein isolate will??
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4) easy to prepare and takes little time too
IMO cracking an egg or just taking a piece of meat from the fridge is just as easy/fast if not faster.
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5) excellent immune system builder / educator
Possibly. However I think the whole product does equally well.

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Hot Topics / Re: Supplementing; what do u recommend?
« on: February 14, 2012, 08:41:52 pm »
I can see why someone on an rpd might consider supplementing things like Vit D, Magnesium and other micronutrients. Why someone following an rpd would want to supplement a maconutrient is beyond me. If you eat a reasonable amount of animal produce it's pretty much impossible to need any additional protein. And if so just eat more meat, nicer tastier, cheaper, better.

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General Discussion / Re: Refrigerator temperature
« on: February 14, 2012, 02:43:58 pm »
I like to freeze my animal foodstuff because I read somewhere that freezing meats for a couple weeks kills almost all parasites. (Is that true?)
Yes but it is very doubtful that's actually beneficial.

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General Discussion / Re: Refrigerator temperature
« on: February 14, 2012, 01:29:25 pm »
yes damage to the product itself by crystal forming ripping the membramen/wall of cells would be the same. I was thinking of the many microorganism on the produce that we also need. most of them can withstand a few degrees below 0(celcius) but ptolonged exposure to temps like minus 30 kills a whole lot more of them.

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General Discussion / Re: Refrigerator temperature
« on: February 13, 2012, 09:35:47 pm »
Very interesting topic. You're probably right that the lower the temp the higher the damage. So what do you set it at Al?

Mine is at -18 degrees celcius. no particular reason it was the standard setting.

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I don't really understand what you're saying.

I'm saying they will come out of the closet eventually as an authoritarian regime, whereas right now they still wear the cloak of a democratic republic.
Im saying total control will make it much easier to keep wearing that cloak. They will never shed it for than it would no longer be possible to play world police to steal oil ooow excuse me I meant to bring democracy to the middle east..

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