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Health / Re: Advanced "high meat", antibiotics, and rebuilding
« on: March 21, 2012, 09:44:43 pm »
I have made my first batch of proper high meat. I made some before with prefrozen meat (that was all i had ) but never trusted it enough to actually eat it. My current batch is made with fresh meat and is now 6 weeks old, aired every day.

Interestingly my current batch certainly smells strong but not offensive whereas my previous batches from prefrozen meat smelled foul. So i'm glad i discarded those. To anyone new to high meat don't make it with prefrozen meat!

Yes, please! Löwenherz, could you please link a few (or at least one or two) of these studies?
For me, it´s just important not to combine fruit (i. e. sugar) and fatty foods in the same meal (and if necessary to separate meals by a few hours "fasting"). However, I don´t eat that much animal fat as some other forum members do.
I mostly adhere to the rules of food-combining. I don't combine vegetable food with animal food always space them a few hours like you. The only exception however is that I eat some raw butter with my fruits(typically one a day). This really gives me nice steady energy from the carbs/butter and totally prevents bs swings. In my own experiments I found that combining dairy(except cheese) with fruits poses no problems in fact they digest wonderfully together. All other combination fruits/meat fruit/veggies veggies/meat veggies/dairy gives me problems

You provide no pubmed studies, despite being asked, and  then you claim that our personal experiences are more important, yet hypocritically ignore my own personal experience, that high fat plus high carb does not harm my health at all.
You can probably include the experiences of a lot of wai-dieters and primal dieters. AV recommends eating tons of butter and eating butter with fruits and making milkshakes with lots of animal fat and pineaple/papaya. never heard of(or experienced myself for that matter) any blood sugar swings from that. If anything blood sugar swings seem to be less when eating lot of animal fat. in me anyway.

Just use a simple blood glucose meter and make your own study of your own body. Eat a lot of beef or lamb suet for some days, then eat five bananas and measure your blood sugar 30 min and 120 min after eating the fruit sugar. As I mentioned many members here report IGT symptoms like blood sugar crashes after eating high sugar fruits.

Animal fats a very different. Beef suet can trigger IGT much more strongly than bone marrow, for example.


sure five cavendish banana give me(and probably most) blood sugar swings. this happens regardless wether i eat marrow butter or suet the days before.
So, please explain: What are the main reasons in your view that many people here experience blood sugar rollercoasters after eating high sugar fruits?
how about the high sugar fruits themselve?

Nonsense. At any rate, I have never had any problems during those times when I ate lots of raw animal fats and lots of raw fruits.
Same here. I eat low carb 5-6 days of the week with lots of animal fat and high carb on workout days. I never have problems with it. I damn well know how blood sugar swings affect me. They make me either agressive(high) or depressed(low). I mostly eat some butter with my fruits to prevent blood sugar swings.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Should I workout?
« on: March 20, 2012, 11:24:44 pm »
I'm curious, is this once a week ~6-9 exercises to failure something that you suggested because of his job already, or is that kind of a common suggestion?  I have a far more sedentary (desk) job, but am interested in this method.  I'm also trying to pick up walking/running more, but want to add weights to that and am trying figure out the best way to do that.
If you have a more sedentary job than you can probably stand more exercise without becoming overtrained. However that is not to say that you actually need more exercise for best results. So you it is kind of a general advice. I would however advice novice lifters to start 2x a week 10-12 basic exercises. Than as one gets stronger (which should happen very fast when just starting weightlifting) reduce to 2x 8 exercises a week than later 3 x 8 per 2 weeks. Then (by now you should at least be twice* as strong as you were when you started) reduce to 1 x 8 per week.

*twice as strong meaning that you can lift twice the weight for the same number of reps not twice the reps for the same weight.

Hot Topics / Re: 801010 and skin health
« on: March 16, 2012, 06:43:16 pm »
And then if you don't exercise all the extra sugar will just drive you crazy.
No doubt. Although i think that even with exercise it will drive you crazy

Hot Topics / Re: 801010 and skin health
« on: March 16, 2012, 06:42:09 pm »
The calorie gossip in 801010 circles is another absurdity in Doug Grahams underworld. His followers often eat more than 3000 kcal per day and still detoriate and look emaciated. That alone simply shows that something is completely wrong.

On a well balanced raw paleo diet with healthy animals foods you don't need thousands of calories per day. Tsss...


You're right off course and i never ment to say that i think eating more than 3000kcal a day is healthy or anything. If you and aLptHW4k4y looked at that link i provided you'll see that he does actually (amazing i know) seems to get an adequate amount op prot and even a balanced amino acid profile. I merely ment to say that because of that he(and others) aparently dont deteriorate in the beginning and he actually build some muscle. Off course in the long term they will get deficiancys and look horrible like dr proved. as well as that picture of freelee you provided. Damn she is skinny.

Hot Topics / Re: 801010 and skin health
« on: March 16, 2012, 05:05:01 pm »
The most bizarre thing about this image is not that the guy looks bad, but that no one seems to notice or be concerned, and that these images were posted by the 811ers themselves as a positive testament, not a dire warning
Those guys all look horribly underfed indeed.However somehow freelee manage to look good if not very good on all images i've ever seen of her. Somehow woman seem to do better on 811.

That first image of DR compared to his babyface pictures is very interesting because clearly he has had plenty of bodybuilding materials in between them judging by his strong (facial)bone structure growth and of course the muscle growth. I find it very hard to believe al that healthy looking growth cam from a 811 diet. Dit he do any other diet in between those pics that anyone knows? Maybe he cheated who knows. Or maybe he is indeed a steriod user as some people suggest. Still even with steroid the body doesn't grow without nutrients.

I found a analysis of a typical DR eating day

Aparently if you make sure you burn 7000 kcals a day and actually eat that many cals you seem to get decent nutrients from the diet along with a few kgs sugar of course. This might explain why for some time his diet seemed to be working for him. By the rate he is detoriating right now it cant be long before he gets hospitalized for some extreme deficiancy though.

Off Topic / Re: Request re farming advice
« on: March 14, 2012, 06:35:25 am »
buy land
than most importantly remineralise the soil! fertile top soil is the placenta off all live on the planet. intensive farming and agriculture has drained the soil. only healthy, living, balanced soil can produce healthy plants and only they can produce healthy livestock.

The ice ages gound rock and mountains to powder this left the basis for balanced fertile top soil after each of them. we are overdue for another ice age so the land already was mineral defecient when we started robbing it of what little was left. luckily we dont have to wait for giant gletchers to grind rocks to dust. rock powders can be bought. do a soil test, see which minerals you lack (google albrecht), and suplement with the apropiate minerals.

after that you can start thinking about plants and animals.

Hot Topics / Re: Best way to eat eggs?
« on: March 12, 2012, 10:06:17 pm »
I would say..
try to make a really delish dish.. like whipped yolks with wild berries!
Whip 4 eggyolks with a teaspoon of honey until real foam. It works best with very fresh eggs!
Then, eat the delicious foam with wild berries like cowberries. Totally raw, very nourishing!
I eat this often... :)
That looks awesome. I used to make the same with egg whites. egg white beaten to a foam and then fold in juiced or blended bleu/black berries. This is actually a well known desert in the NL called "Haagse bluf"

Hot Topics / Re: Best way to eat eggs?
« on: March 12, 2012, 09:37:16 pm »
I've been trying to do the same but I still haven't quite mastered the timing to get the yolks just right.
Start them in cold water, make sure they are fully covered. Get them to boil as fast as possible. Once they boil 4-4,5 mins is perfect fluid yolks and cooked solid whites.

Off Topic / Re: Quote of the Day(inspired by SD's post)
« on: March 12, 2012, 09:25:26 pm »
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts”-Richard Feynman

“If you have a problem that you cannot solve, seek out the most highly recognized expert in that field and carefully listen to his suggested solution, and then do exactly the opposite. And while this will not always solve your problem it will, at least, save you some time; will save the time that you might have wasted trying his suggestions, which will almost invariably be wrong.”

Off Topic / Re: Aluminium in Processed foods etc.
« on: March 08, 2012, 07:14:38 pm »
we don't eat processed food anyway.

Actually today we had a similar news item. It seems over the past few months lots of processed foods sold in the NL has been salted with road salt due to a polish manufacturer fucking up. The salt was off course full of crap. So all my colleagues(including those usually making fun of my diet) started freaking out because they had been eating it. I just laughed at them and had some more unprocessed food. Not very nice i know but i couldn't resist  ;)

Hot Topics / Re: Raw Vegan Annette Larkins at 70 looks like 30.
« on: March 08, 2012, 03:47:36 pm »
this is what will happen if you follow the cyklus of the nature.
Avoid artificial light as much as you can (which will give you the best sleep ever), eat in season, let you body get used to seasonal temperatures (avoid heating as much as you can).
It is that easy, nothing complicated at all. :)

I fully agree that living with the flow of your surroundings is paramount to good health. however id dont think that it (or anything else for that matter) will change telomere length. that is a genetic factor not to be influenced by diet.

watching that vid again i also think she used botox.

worst experience to date/right now: chicken bone stuck in throat!!!!!!!!! ouch holy !!!
anyone have experience with this, whatdoido?
If the bone is raw your saliva will dissolve it. How did you got it out?

Off Topic / Re: Quote of the Day(inspired by SD's post)
« on: March 07, 2012, 04:38:08 pm »
"The only thing that I can say with any real confidence is that things will get a lot worse than they now are, hard as that may be to imagine. Once the government and its "experts" get their hands on the reins of power, as they now have, you can be damned sure that anything of value that now exists will soon be destroyed. Read your history and then don't be surprised when you see it repeating itself."
Arthur Jones

Off Topic / Re: Quote of the Day(inspired by SD's post)
« on: March 07, 2012, 04:37:32 pm »
"Mercy for the guilty is treason to the innocent"
I like that a lot!

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Upper Body Exercises
« on: March 06, 2012, 07:05:24 pm »
chins, dips, push-ups, pull ups, hand stand push-ups. Lifts; basically deadlifts using whatever heavy stuff you can find.

Hot Topics / Re: Viruses in RAW BEEF may cause colon cancer
« on: March 05, 2012, 10:18:21 pm »
No, the Hot Topics forum is for any topics which are anti-rawpalaeo in theme. Non-dietary related topics go in the Off-Topics forum.
Somehow we seem to have this problem in half the topics that apparently belong in this section. This is a "raw paleo" forum so "non/anti raw paleo" topics are off topic but should be placed in the hot topics section? Confusing. Sounds like the hot topic section should be called "non rpd" (for non raw paleo dietary stuff) and the off topic section should be called "non dietary topics".

General Discussion / Re: Chest pain
« on: March 05, 2012, 09:30:39 pm »
I'm am 30 yr old. I refinish and install hardwood floor for a living. In the morning I don't really have time so I eat 4-5 raw egg. Lunch time I usually have cook food. Mostly rice and meat. For dinner I eat raw food such as beef meat, fish, bone marrow, fruits, eggs, liver and little beef back fat. I hope I'm eating right. Thanks ya
Machining hardwood creates pretty nasty toxic dust and fumes. Maybe that has something to do with anything. I know a guy who had to stop working with hardwood because he developed a severe astmatic response to the wood(dust) even when working with all kind of protection. in addition to stopping working with the woods he had to use steroids and antibiotic to get his situation under controll. He wasn't on a RPD.

People might think that a diet based on raw animal fats makes our life nasty and brutish again, at least on a verbal level.

But what is the cause of overheated discussions?

Irritability and angriness.

In my case it's caused by red meat and fat from domesticated animals.

Not everything has a dietary origin. In fact it is this type of reasoning that makes a lot of serious people frown upon our community. Some people just cannot let go regardless of diet.

Health / Re: Advanced "high meat", antibiotics, and rebuilding
« on: March 05, 2012, 05:58:53 am »
I think high meat is pretty far down the road... from a regular perspective anyway.

General Discussion / Re: Are these eggs safe to consume raw?
« on: March 01, 2012, 11:16:58 pm »
chickens are supposed to eat animal food stuff(bugs, worms etc) as a large part of their diet. Flax oil is probably rancid and oxidated thus toxic for them. I wouldn't eat them...

To be able to hold yourself horizontal on a poll like the one boy does must take some enormous dedication and time!
Starting at a young age is key here.

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