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Off Topic / Re: Humans came from Asia, not Africa.
« on: June 25, 2012, 10:59:58 pm »
I thought that Wallace came up with similar things after Darwin so forced Darwin to publish before he had planned. I think originally Darwin wanted to publish post-mortem so as not to make problems with his wife and her family. That's my vague memory from a biography.
correct far as i know
there were other predecessors to darwin that mentioned the subject in one way or another, it was however darwin who first (dared) to link it to the evolution of all living things.

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Off Topic / Re: Humans came from Asia, not Africa.
« on: June 25, 2012, 09:14:09 pm »
Read something besides Darwin please. he clearly explains why this is NOT true.

So Darwin is the absolute........ hmmmm Sounds like a religion thang.
Your automatic assumption that i meant read just Darwin is typical. Of course Darwin's teachings are not absolute. I merely suggested them because they are the starting point in understanding evolution. Of course you should also read the work of both his predecessors and his successors to appreciate the evolution of the understanding of the process of evolution. Personally i read a lot besides darwin and in the proces gaines sugnificant apreciation for the magnitute of his discoveries. His visonary mind and unique aproach presented facts more than 150 years ago that scientists today are still catching up on. Darwin was clearly aware of epigentics and if you read his unmodified manuscrips carefully you'll notice that. He just wasn't aware that some of the things he noticed through research and extrapolation were genetic and some of them were epigenetic. What he did understood was how, through the proces of natural selection, these changes were stimulated and how they were activated through adaptation(either genetic or epigenetic). If Darwin had the equipment we now have to differentiate between genetic and epigenetic evolution he would sure have adressed the issue.

@cherimoya
Off course both Darwinian genetic and epigenetic evolution take place simultaneously. Epigenetic evolution is the predecessor to genetic evolution. They are driven by the same principles, the principles of Darwinian evolution. I'm not implying that Darwin was right in an absolute sense or that the understanding of these processes hasn't evolved further through the work of fisher and others, instead by Darwinian evolution i mean the basic principles discovered by him.

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General Discussion / Re: Eye Contact
« on: June 10, 2012, 03:01:56 pm »
It's pretty rare someone look you in the eye when you speak to them.

is it? Not over here. Only very shy people don't look others in the eye when talking here. Most consider it rude or a display of lacking social skills. Funny thing cultures.

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Off Topic / Re: Who here believes this?
« on: June 10, 2012, 06:20:39 am »
Are you kidding me cobalamin.
Babies put everything in their mouth including dirt. They do this top build their gut fora and immune system.
It was recently proven that preventing them from doing this by raising them to clean hindered this progress leading to vitamin k deficiency because of inadequate gut flora. Of course they solved that by giving babies vitamin k shots.
A lot of members here including myself have benefited from eating all kinds of rotten and or fermented animal produces.
Canines bury part of a kill so the soil microbes can ferment it.
No animal washes their veggies. My soil And produce are healthy so I've nothing to fear from it. I would eat a handful including the worm.and other living things in it without a sweat.

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Off Topic / Re: Humans came from Asia, not Africa.
« on: June 07, 2012, 09:04:37 pm »
It's also interesting to note that the birth-rate seems to often go down in line with a drop in religious beliefs.
ah well

Mr Blackitt: Look at them, bloody Catholics. Filling the bloody
     world up with bloody people they can't afford to bloody feed.

Mrs Blackitt: What are we dear?

Mr Blackitt: Protestant, and fiercely proud of it...

Mrs Blackitt: Why do they have so many children...?

Mr Blackitt: Because every time they have sexual intercourse they
     have to have a baby.

Mrs Blackitt: But it's the same with us, Harry.

Mr Blackitt: What d'you mean...?

Mrs Blackitt: Well I mean we've got two children and we've had
     sexual intercourse twice.

Mr Blackitt: That's not the point... We *could* have it any time we
     wanted.

Mrs Blackitt: Really?

Mr Blackitt: Oh yes. And, what's more, because we don't believe in
     all that Papist claptrap we can take precautions.

Mrs Blackitt: What, you mean lock the door...?

Mr Blackitt: No no, I mean, because we are members of the
     Protestant Reformed Church which successfully challenged the
     autocratic power of the Papacy in the mid-sixteenth century,
     we can wear little rubber devices to prevent issue.

Mrs Blackitt: What do you mean?

Mr Blackitt: I could, if I wanted, have sexual intercourse with
     you...

Mrs Blackitt: Oh, yes... Harry...

Mr Blackitt: And by wearing a rubber sheath over my old feller I
     could ensure that when I came off... you would not be
     impregnated.

Mrs Blackitt: Ooh!

Mr Blackitt: That's what being a Protestant's all about. That's
     why it's the church for me. That's why it's the church for
     anyone who respects the  individual and the individual's right
     to decide for him or herself. When Martin Luther nailed his
     protest up to the church door in 1517, he may not have
     realised the full significance of what he was doing. But four
     hundred years later, thanks to him, my dear, I can wear
     whatever I want on my John Thomas. And Protestantism doesn't
     stop at the simple condom. Oh no! I can wear French Ticklers
     if I want.

Mrs Blackitt: You what?

Mr Blackitt: French Ticklers... Black Mambos... Crocodile Ribs...
     Sheaths that are designed not only to protect but also to
     enhance the stimulation of sexual congress...

Mrs Blackitt: Have you got one?

Mr Blackitt: Have I got one? Well no... But I can go down the road
     any time I want and walk into Harry's and hold my head up
     high, and say in a loud steady voice: 'Harry I want you to
     sell me a *condom*. In fact today I think I'll have a French
     Tickler, for I am a Protestant...'

Mrs Blackitt: Well why don't you?

Mr Blackitt: But they... [He points at the stream of children still
     pouring past the house.]... they cannot. Because their church
     never made the great leap out of the Middle Ages, and the
     domination of alien episcopal supremacy!


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General Discussion / Re: Alaska's "half-farmed" salmon
« on: June 07, 2012, 08:26:39 pm »
One day I am going to take up fly-fishing and catch my own wild salmon!
you'd better move then

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Off Topic / Re: Humans came from Asia, not Africa.
« on: June 07, 2012, 07:27:44 pm »
Well, the other religions had more of a focus on artistic objects, whereas Christianity and Islam all focused on destroying the artwork of other religions, during their heyday. Plus, most other religions worshipped many gods and goddesses, so that every role in their society had a specific patron-deity, for example, Hera for Ancient Greek wives, Ares for the military etc., rather than some vengeful single male God. Plus, the other religions were usually far more tolerant of other religions, though not always. And, in the Ancient World, there wasn't much religious belief per se, that is there were no monasteries/convents so that religion had less of a totalitarian grip on the human imagination than the 3 Abrahamic religions later on. I mean, scientists in Ancient Greece were able to come up with countless theories which were only rediscovered during the Renaissance when, finally, the Christian Churches started losing power.
All right I get your point, and largely agree.

It was however not an answer to my question; What useful things would you say the other religions have brought that could not have been acquired without belief in some higher power?

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Hot Topics / Re: eskimos
« on: June 07, 2012, 02:42:50 pm »
Very nice.
Yes. Although those breads and stuff were ruining it a bit.

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Journals / Re: GoodSamaritan's Experiments
« on: June 07, 2012, 02:41:41 pm »
How much vitamin d?
How acquired? If the supplemental vit D does it whereas sun made vitamin D does not than it is probably just a side affect from one of the toxic byproducts in the sup.

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Off Topic / Re: Humans came from Asia, not Africa.
« on: June 07, 2012, 02:19:41 pm »
I am a confirmed atheist who only sees religion as a useful way to add culture to society, nothing more
Hear hear

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I believed completely in Darwin's theory of evolution until recently when I read the book 'Biology of Bielief', by Bruce Lipton.
Now I still believe in evolution, but not exactly how Darwin described it. This is mainly due to the increasing knowledge about epigenetics. Because environmental conditions affect gene expression in an organism throughout it's life, and these changes can then be inherited by the offspring, it resembles more the theory of evolution by the ridiculed Jean-Baptiste Lamarck.
No doubt lamarck was a genius. And therefore ridiculed. You see a genius understands things nobody else does so when he speaks his mind everyone inevitably thinks hes crazy for they dont(and likely never will) understand it.

I still think Darwin's model holds for at least 90%. The basic principles he discovered are the same principles working in epigenetic evolution which is just a precursor to truly genetic evolution.

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Personally I have found most religions to  have provided something useful, Buddhism and Hinduism being good examples, it's just the 3 Abrahamic religions which I have never liked.
I never liked any religion at all but i agree that those 3 are by far the worst. What usefull things would you say the other religions have brought that couldn't have been acquired without belief in some higher power?

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Hot Topics / Re: eskimos
« on: June 07, 2012, 01:58:46 am »
I so loved half of that Web page.  :D

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Off Topic / Re: Humans came from Asia, not Africa.
« on: June 07, 2012, 12:16:47 am »
You're right of course Tyler. I was trying to give a quick example. However the result of the interbreeding (us) did compete the neanderthals out of existence. So the analogy still holds.

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Off Topic / Re: Humans came from Asia, not Africa.
« on: June 06, 2012, 10:43:27 pm »
all things in nature are constantly competing. This is the basic drive behind evolution. The extinction of species due to not being able to compete with their better adapted counterpart is a rather fast (evolutionary speaking) process. when modern man came about Neanderthals quickly became extinct because they could no longer compete. again extinction is a fast process. another step in evolution takes much longer. So yes there were periods when more than one type of humans roamed the earth simultaneously, as confirmed by fossil records. We just happen to live somewhere along the evolutionary timeline where our predecessors have already become extinct while our successor has not yet come along(probably).

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Off Topic / Re: Humans came from Asia, not Africa.
« on: June 06, 2012, 09:18:56 pm »
humans didnt evolve from monkeys. otherwise there wont be monkeys or there would still be humans half-evolved between monkeys and humans, meaning evolution is still taking place.
Read darwin please. he clearly explains why this is NOT true.

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Off Topic / Re: Humans came from Asia, not Africa.
« on: June 06, 2012, 06:49:45 pm »
Or is is simply a case of parallel evolution. There are examples of this all over the world. There are at least 3 freshwater dolphin species that evolved in closed bodies of water  separately yet they are remarkably similar. That is because they have the same roll in a similar ecosystem. Function dictates design and evolution is no exception. If it performs like a dolphin it MUST look like a dolphin. It is very possible the same is true for humans. In different places in the world the same or at least similar function were required for survival thus pushing evolution in the same direction. If it works for other animals it does for humans.

It is of course very much politically incorrect to ever suggest such a thing. That would mean that not all are equal. Although even a glance at the most predominantly prevailing species(yes i dare say)in different sports, sciences, and other challenges of life makes this at least a clear possibility.

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Journals / Re: GoodSamaritan's Experiments
« on: June 06, 2012, 03:54:12 pm »
I drank 1 raw duck egg and then ate 2 small papaya slices.
Made me full.
that fills you up in the morning? My breakfast today was 250grms of liver lots of butter(50grms or so), a teaspoon of vco, and a large glass of raw milk kefir. an hour before that i had a glass of green veggie juice with some butter as a wake up tonic. that was 3 hrs ago and i'm already hungry just about to grab a milkshake (milk, cream, 2 eggs)0,5ltr total.

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Journals / Re: GoodSamaritan's Experiments
« on: June 06, 2012, 03:48:26 pm »
woke up inflammation free.
Thats great, good for you!
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but woke up weak, lack of energy... you know lack of carbs... 3rd day.
Are you getting enough fat? I noticed i need at least 150gr fats on low carb to maintain energy levels. Thats the bare minimum though usually i'm around 180-210 grms fat 150 gram prot and <30 grms carb. So calorie wise 70%fat 25%prot 5%carb. If i drop fats for prot my energy suffers.

personnaly i wouldn't brush my teeth except maybe just with some water. allow those raw nutrients to acumulate on the teeth so they can feed them both externally as wel as internally. Off course that only works on low carb. I you eat to much carbs i would need to brush to prevent excessive plaque.

good luck keep us updated

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I can imagine there are a lot of us here who would love to meet the guy. I know you've suggested some sort of european raw paleo gathering in the past. Maybe we could do something like that one day and invite Aajonus? changes are most people won't be able to make any of the 2 events av will be in europe this year. Would be so cool to have a gathering of our european tribe and invite AV and maybe some other guru's.

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Could someone please tell AV to go to Vienna, Austria?
just curious, why?

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I will! He should do a full European tour while he is here!
Agreed!

Let us know how it went, will you?

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Off Topic / Re: Hemp Oil Anyone?
« on: June 05, 2012, 03:50:28 am »
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/5169.html

you get hemp oil in a large bottle? That's strange, the real stuff is majorly expensive if you can get it at all.

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Off Topic / Re: Who here believes this?
« on: June 04, 2012, 07:10:17 pm »
When i'm working in my garden i always use my bare hands and i never wash any of my veggies from my own garden. I like to get some of the microbes from my healthy soil in me.

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Off Topic / Who here believes this?
« on: June 04, 2012, 07:08:07 pm »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-18206191

Truly ridiculous if you ask me..

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Off Topic / Re: Hemp Oil Anyone?
« on: June 04, 2012, 07:01:57 pm »
hemp oil is supposed to be used only 1-3 drops a day. so taste issues cant be that relevant?  ???


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