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Make yourself some soup stocks.  You need to be warm.
Don't eat cold food.  You should defrost your meats.  Sear them if you are a beginner.
Take some herbal teas that are warming / yang increasing from the tcm point of view.
If you can get panax ginseng supplements, that will give you warmth.
Ginger teas, fermented raw ginger will warm you up too.

I gather it is not a good time to go cold turkey raw paleo now in winter.  This is a good time to do transitions.  At least be cooked / rare / raw paleo will do for the transition.

I second all of that!

Hot spices and teas can help to keep you warm. Adding some hot spices to that stock can make you sweat no matter how cold it is. Also, blankets and sweaters and hats are good too. :)

Primal Diet / Re: Why the Milk Diet Worked for Me and Could Work for You
« on: November 04, 2012, 09:18:16 pm »
Well, I tend to do these experiments in terms of years to make sure I can get hints of the long-term effects. After trying dairy for a couple of years I will probably go at least a year if not two or three - to re-establish my baseline first. Since the deterioration was so slow and insidious my body might need more time than I might be able to tell just from my own conscious perceptions to build up to it's true normal strength on all levels again. Even then, I think I would need to feel like there was a real benefit to cream and butter that I wouldn't get elsewhere to take the chance after my last experience. If it was an immediate response then I would do it out of curiosity, but because it took a couple of years to show up - I'm not sure that I'm curious enough to put myself on the line like that again without a really good reason to do so. I can think of some incentives that could come up. We'll just have to see.

It would be years from now - but I bet we'll still be here right Cheri? - so I'll be sure to let you know! 

Thanks Iguana. That's a very interesting idea that perverse sexual relationships without love are just symptoms of disease caused by the neolithic diet! I like it. I have wondered myself about that -- how much of our sickness of mind and spirit and in our relationships is based upon sickness of the body and imbalanced hormonal systems.

Is that the core of his metapsychoanalysis?

I guess I'm not interested enough to do the work of translating and reading long treatises. Other things I have translated of his I have found difficult to read - it takes too much time and effort. That's why I was hoping for a short idea of what it is and how it might relate to the charges against him.

Was the idea that because there is love and a good diet that sex with someone of any age or any familial relationship to you, whether male or female is good? Multiple partners good as long as there is love and it is consensual?

Is there a synopsis of the broad sweeping ideas without the detail with which GCB usually writes available for me somewhere or would you please just give me a really quick idea?


General Discussion / Re: No money..
« on: November 04, 2012, 08:10:08 pm »
There is an art of writing your achievements in a resume. The general idea is to search your life for what you have accomplished that benefited another person. Get it? There are plenty of tutorials on the internet on how to write a resume that helps you sell yourself to an employer, but you first must sell yourself to yourself.

Here's an example: as a pizza delivery driver, were you on time? were your customers happy to see you because you were upbeat and friendly? did you get the deliveries right a huge percentage of the time?

There is a trick to using those employment centers: you will get out of it what you put into it. It's easy to get down when you are looking and looking for work. Employers don't hire "down" people, and they can tell. Find out how you can lift yourself up by doing things like smiling and lifting other people up.

What wonderful advice! :D

Even if it is a short resume that looks professional, neat and like you put in some effort - even if there are only two menial jobs - put in a light like Eve suggested - that you could attach to the standard applications - it could make you look better than the herd - make you stand out as someone who takes extra effort.

A million years ago when I was a fledgling and just worked at a supermarket when I was 16, did babysitting, took care of the neighbor's dog - I still put it down in a nice resume in order to try to get a job selling shoes.

I put down my hobbies, what I had studied in my classes in high school - anything at all that I could think might make them see me as responsible, intelligent and more interesting than the other applicants. It at least showed that I could think clearly, read and write, type, use words well and had an appreciation for things of quality since I used good paper. It also showed that I had patience enough to put it all together and the courage to present it.

It makes me think of the book Siddhartha by Herman Hesse when he was asked what his skills were. In the novel he said he can can think, he could wait and he could fast - that's it - and then described the great value in these skills. I bet I can find it for you - it's truly precious! That part of that book gave me confidence when I thought I had very little to offer.

Here it is!

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Give great tips to lose weight
« on: November 04, 2012, 07:47:36 pm »
So Joy - strangely enough obesity or looking to lose weight doesn't seem to come up here much - at least where I have noticed people being treated disrespectfully about it. The last I remember someone addressing wanting to lose weight was Black Rhino - he was thinking of having surgery - but it seems like people quite kindly talked him out of it and just tried to give him useful advice. I don't think I've ever seen anyone have one rude thing to say to Eve when she has talked about weight.

I've read some really rude things, nasty name-calling and plain old grumpiness on this forum - but strangely enough, I don't remember one instance when it had to do with someone being fat... or even skinny for that matter. I think most people here have had issues in one direction or the other at some time or another because of  health issues and/or dietary experiments - so perhaps that's why?

Are you thinking of any particular incident here on the forum - or are you just generally thinking about our society as a whole?

General Discussion / Re: Can we do without vegetables/greens?
« on: November 04, 2012, 07:27:52 pm »
Dorothy, if you are interested in central nervous system health the books and articles about ketogenic diets from neurofeedback specialist Nora Gedgaudas could be an very interesting read for you.

"Primal Body, Primal Mind: Beyond the Paleo Diet for Total Health and a Longer Life":


I'll check it out. Thanks!

No, he has always said, both publicly and privately that he was convicted for a crime he did not commit. Plus, he has consistently refused to retract from his theory named metasexuality or metapsychoanalysis which, by the way, prominent psychoanalysts have privately endorsed and highly praised.

Would you possibly be able to give a super quick synopsis of GCB's ideas of metasexuality/metapsychoanalysis? Isn't it nice when people ask for such ridiculous things and I know it's silly to ask for such a thing - but I do it anyway. ;)  The accusations seemed to include incest and pedophilia no? How are those related to his theories if at all?

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Give great tips to lose weight
« on: November 04, 2012, 09:10:24 am »
Yeah - after a couple of years of the harassment - compassion got second place.  -d

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Give great tips to lose weight
« on: November 04, 2012, 08:23:32 am »
I am skinny and have had to put up with alot of bullshit from fat people.  Most people are morons and deserve criticism.

Yeah - you can't win. I've been all over the place with weight at different points in my life and I've determined that no matter what you look like someone will find something negative to say.

When I was young I had woman boss for a while that constantly was telling me that I was too skinny. She was trying to make herself feel better about her own weight so I never responded but one day I just had it and told her that I measured myself and that I was 36, 26, 36 and asked her if that wasn't considered the ideal for women - which most thought it was at that time according to tabloids etc. At least I got ONE of the "I know what's best for you"s to shut up!

Other times I have said - yeah - but I'm strong - and just picked up the person - or I asked them if they wanted to race. That also shut them up fast. ;)

Off Topic / Re: Proof of Precognition?
« on: November 04, 2012, 06:37:22 am »
If something like presentiment or ESP does exist and has a significant effect, then we can expect that some folks will use the ability to get super-rich

Some have.

Off Topic / Re: Proof of Precognition?
« on: November 04, 2012, 06:19:41 am »
Welcome to my world. ;)

Health / Re: Repetitive strain injury
« on: November 04, 2012, 05:46:27 am »
Yes, I have a brace and it is prescription, not otc. :) Not sue if I can knit well with it, but I will give it a try. I am not sure which move even caused it...I did not feel much pain, it suddenly got bad.

It is a slight turn upward of the right hand that is the likely culprit. It's a clockwise rotation that would make the wrist tilt back slightly. One of the best ways to prevent carpal tunnel for people that use a keyboard or mouse a lot is to make sure that the chair is high so that the elbow has less bend and the arm is in a straight line down to the fingers. It's when the wrist goes up and makes the canal smaller that usually the problem is created. It is also similar in the way that people play instruments. I've had to change the way I play the violin and teach people how to play the piano differently to heal and prevent such problems.

I suggest that you hold your knitting down further in your lap so that your arms and wrists can relax - but more important is that they will be in more of a straight line. Then you will find it easier to use the brace when knitting because you will be keeping your hands in the position necessary to prevent that kind of movement that makes the problem.

Make sure that your hands end up in as straight line with your lower arm always when doing repetitive movements with your crafts and with the computer. That's why a brace can help so much.

If you raise your chair at the computer so that your feet just touch the ground and you even have to come forward in your chair so that your arms are almost hanging - that could change everything for you.

It's all about ergonomics. It makes much more sense to prevent the movements that create the problem in the first place than try to fix it afterwards by any kind of treatment.

Health / Re: Repetitive strain injury
« on: November 04, 2012, 05:35:21 am »
"Canary Islanders made poultices from the leaves of the castor plant to treat gynecological problems. Nursing mothers applied these poultices to their breasts to increase milk secretion and relieve inflammation of their mammary glands, and applied the poultice to their abdomens to promote normal menstruation

That's the kind of quote I like to see for reassurance.  :D

Health / Re: I keep losing weight!
« on: November 04, 2012, 04:46:54 am »
A piece of info Suiren you might be interested in if you don't already know - coffee can curtail the appetite. It can put a great deal of pressure on the adrenal function too which also can affect the appetite and is quite bad for hypoglycemics. Coffee makes the body to release adrenalin which then makes the body release sugar into the blood stream from the body's stores of fat - so for people with blood sugar problems coffee can keep those disease processes in place.

Health / Re: Repetitive strain injury
« on: November 04, 2012, 04:31:58 am »
Yes, I wear it all day and night pretty much, aside from a few breaks to stretch. It was the only thing that helped last time. :)

Oh - didn't get to this post. So you already have a brace and it does help - that's good! But it didn't prevent huh? That's too bad. Were you wearing it when knitting before getting the problem? I crochet so I understand that repetitive motion and how intense it can be. You might want to wear the brace in the future even if not in pain when you are knitting in order to help to curtail that little turn you do - it might help to prevent future problems.

Health / Re: Repetitive strain injury
« on: November 04, 2012, 04:28:25 am »
Castor oil is not the poisonous part. I was not talking about talking it orally. Putting it on the skin is entirely different. If there was a reaction with the child she (Suiren) would know as the child might have slightly loose bowel action. Castor is used by Doctors for certain things and has been used for a very long time.

Sure - it's an ancient cure. I know castor is a great plant to use including the oil - just not sure about the baby with something absorbed through the skin (I know you weren't saying to take it orally) and if castor would be appropriate for babies to be around generally. You know more than me - it's just something I would check and re-check myself before doing. The bean is quite toxic. When making the oil workers coming into contact with the resulting pulp have died. I know the oil itself is "supposed" to be ok - but I get the heebeejeebees around such things when it comes to babies. As adults we could easily be able to handle a little bit of toxicity left in the oil - I'm just saying to really make sure, trust your source and double check it - that's all. I would find a bunch of sources saying it was ok before I would do it because I've had some super bad experiences with people saying that all the toxic elements were removed when they hadn't been of other toxic plant cures.

Me - I would try the extremely easy and absolutely non-toxic heat/cold and immobilization first though. That often is all it takes for quick results. For years every day all I did was see people with this condition. It was a weird job. ;)

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Give great tips to lose weight
« on: November 03, 2012, 11:10:50 am »
Actually I am not focusing on this thread. I have seen several times on this forum that people are instantly told to shut up when they talk about losing weight.

Overweight people harbor a lot of shame because of the negative silent comments they receive daily. They are easily shut up. Since this forum aims at helping people improving health and never shunning away discussions about the truths about health,  I think the overweight issue--the number one health problem in US--should be allowed to be brought up on this forum and meet the same kind of respect and support other health issues meet.

Oh. It's not about this thread for you - it's about others where people have been responded to dismissively or cruelly. I understand now. I haven't seen those instances myself, but I can easily imagine it happening here. It is true that being overweight would have to be one of the most important discussion on a diet forum with Americans participating. Obesity is truly an epidemic. The vast majority of people in our country are overweight yet they are treated often very cruelly. I've read that 2/3 of all Americans are obese. How many does that leave that aren't even overweight? It does make sense to be open and kind to such a vast group in need of help. 

But a spammer - let's not only cut out their stomach - let's cut out the intestines too. :) 

General Discussion / Re: No money..
« on: November 03, 2012, 10:54:09 am »
yes Wolf - eggs from chickens that get to run in the grass and eat bugs in a large area are much, much better. They might never be quite as good as your aunt and uncles - but far superior to store bought usually.

Can you perhaps buy a few more chickens for relatives to keep so you can get eggs and take care of their chickens for them or do some odd jobs in exchange?

Health / Re: Repetitive strain injury
« on: November 03, 2012, 07:26:56 am »
Oh - and I used to grow castor - it's a poisonous plant. Good for much - but with my experience with the plant itself I wouldn't do it cuz of the breastfeeding unless your are really sure.

Health / Re: Repetitive strain injury
« on: November 03, 2012, 07:05:01 am »
Don't forget the wrist brace! That alone could take care of it. It has for many. Good luck.

General Discussion / Re: No money..
« on: November 03, 2012, 05:23:25 am »
How about eggs? Those stay fresh a long time. Maybe you could do work on a farm in exchange for eggs and anything else they had that you would be able to eat - maybe a freshly killed chicken - they might even be willing to put you up for a couple of days at a time or you could tent it. If they butcher their own meat for their own consumption you could ask for the organs. It might be easier to find pastured chickens than grass-fed cows? Paying someone in extra eggs and milk for hard labor could be good for a farmer.  Do you have good energy? Are you strong? I think if I were in your situation that is what I would do........ hunt down a farm with kind people........ and apply for food stamps too. ;)   

Health / Re: Repetitive strain injury
« on: November 03, 2012, 05:03:50 am »
I like castor oil, but I'm not sure I would do that when breast feeding. Please research that first.

Whether heat works or not depends on when the main injury occurred. Out of the hundreds of people I have seen with what you are suffering some people do better with heat, some better with cold, that is why I suggested to try both and see.

Digging directly into the spot that is the most injured and painful indeed could make you feel better or could do more damage. There are indeed acupressure points that can relieve pain in general that are not directly at the site and perhaps it is worth exploring if you are willing to do that. I'm not sure I would go digging right into the most painful places though without knowing what you are doing.

The very first things to do are immobilization (especially at night when sleeping) and heat and/or cold. That might be all that you need and those are standard treatments that will not effect your baby at all - even with the release of many toxins.

I always like to try the easiest, most direct treatments that can do no harm of any kind first. Breast feeding means that anything you do with releasing toxins, changing energy pathways etc. etc. could have unknown effects on the baby. Some of those kinds of things really can make big things happen. It's different when you are an individual than when you are a breast feeding mother. Immobilizing and applying heat/cold will only effect the specific area on you.

Again just my experiences. Of course always use your own intellect and intuition.   

Off Topic / Re: Hurrican Sandy and NYC RPDers
« on: November 03, 2012, 04:37:14 am »
the whole ordeal is pathetic.  people are driving 6 hours to fill up on gas for the generators.....what? why not use the gas you just burned driving.  idleing cars in parking garages and charging people to charge their cell phones.  people are "stranded" because they wont walk for a few hours(at the very most!) to get to the work and even less to get to a store.  i dont understand our country or most of the people in it.  we are SO "fortunate" that we have become extremely lazy, arrogant and lost all humility.  we dont know what its like to truly suffer a tragedy.  yeh i feel horrible for the folks who lost family members or friends, but honestly the true devastation is to our environment, ONCE AGAIN, as tons of waste from peoples basements and garages and also the sewer system is now in the ocean, many hundreds of thousands of bees in bee hives out there are dead, lots of loss of ecology....etcetc.

If I were still in NY and had a working vehicle I would definitely drive six hours to buy enough gasoline if I had enough containers to run the electricity in my home for the weeks it will take to get the electricity back on AND keep the food in my refrigerator/freezer viable AND keep the heat on if there is a freeze AND still have a vehicle with which to escape if I needed to. That's really smart if you ask me. Just how a New Yorker would think.

New York in 1991 went through one of the biggest tragedies this country has known and you are saying they don't know about tragedy?! People are still suffering from inhaling the debris. After a tragedy like just happened you want to stay inside to try to protect yourself from not inhaling something, picking up some bad bacteria and mostly from not getting poisoned with something which is inadvertently being released. For God's sake the power plant that lit up the entire lower half of Manhattan made a massive EXPLOSION. More things could be exploding and giving way. People lose their lives when building gives way in Manhattan even without the perfect storm hitting.

The amazing thing is that people are helping one another generally. You will get reports of some people trying to make a profit but most are just helping one another. Generally, they are not stealing, not breaking in all over and not looting.

It's really good to see New Yorkers when times get tough because they are being tough and in my view making good decisions. Sit tight and wait it out. You are just listening to the hype on the news trying to make everyone look bad as usual when in fact people are being really good.

As far as staying home from work and not walking a few hours over the bridges or through the debris or through possibility of people turning violent- again - smart. I wouldn't go out of my home for anything if I had enough food and water. No job is worth risking life and limb over. I've walked through Manhattan when public transportation was closed just for one day due to a glitch and I tell you, if you have never done it, do not judge those who are not doing it now. New Yorkers are usually big walkers. They walk more than any other place I've lived in this country or Europe. Walking normal streets is one thing. Walking in NYCity now if you don't absolutely have to - that's NY smart.

Of course the devastation to our environment is great. That doesn't make the human toll any less. Unless you've lived there and are present in what is happening right now - please don't judge harshly.

Off Topic / Re: Hurrican Sandy and NYC RPDers
« on: November 03, 2012, 01:08:29 am »
I'm from NY originally and have been talking with my relatives and friends in and around the city. It's interesting being able to get reports that most New Yorkers without power can't get and also talk with people on the ground. It's quite amazing actually that things are staying as "civilized" as they are. Some places on the beaches are destroyed - including the beaches themselves gone, lower Manhattan beneath 39th lost it's power due to the Con-Ed explosion - but so far it seems like people are generally behaving themselves. The stock market opened again relatively quickly and is acting quite nicely. I predict that NY will be fully up and running again in a blink of an eye compared to Katrina and other hurricanes down south that I've experienced. New Yorkers tend to just get up and do what is necessary and will help each other out in ways that totally are opposite to the stereotypes. If any place will bounce back quickly - it will be NY. I'm more concerned for the destruction up and down the coast in smaller places with fewer resources and pull.

Health / Re: Repetitive strain injury
« on: November 02, 2012, 11:45:52 pm »
I know a great deal about this condition. I used to help do EMG's (electromyography) for it when I was young. Just because you are having pain in your wrists does not mean that the issue arises from the wrist. It can be nerve impingement from the neck or elbow as well. Do you have numbness or tingling in any of your fingers? Are your hands swollen? Have you tried applying heat or cold? Results?

It is most likely carpal tunnel syndrome like Tyler suggested where the nerve gets "squashed" in that "tunnel" but there is no way of knowing for sure without nerve testing - which hurts like hell and won't give you any better off treatment plan if you want to try to treat it with diet and supplements. No matter where it is coming from - you have inflammation. Part of the problem is that you are still breast-feeding.

First thing you want to do is get a light brace for that wrist since it is the most likely culprit in order to give it rest. As long as you keep on making the same movements without resting it will be hard for your body to heal. I could tell you at least 10 things you could ingest that might help - the problem is that I have no idea which ones would be ok to do while breast feeding.

So, I would try the things that could work without having to change anything you put in your mouth or that could be absorbed through your skin first. I would do that brace and alternate hot and cold compresses and see which one if either gives you relief. Massaging an inflamed joint could make you worse if the person does not know exactly what they are doing. I wouldn't suggest it.

You are likely moving your right wrist differently than your left when knitting and sewing. When you get well and want to try those activities again - I would highly suggest wearing a brace on your right wrist when attempting it to possibly prevent the same movement that created the problem.

Again though - it might be how you hold/move your wrist or neck during those activities too. Try treating the most likely candidate first with non-invasive things and you might  just get lucky.   

But remember .... "I am not a doctor and have never even played one on tv." quote from PaleoPhil. ;)   

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