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Health / Re: Back Injury
« on: July 27, 2008, 08:32:24 pm »
An intensively-painful stomach/stomach-ulcer is far worse - I've had back-pain before, and it's nowhere near as painful as the horrible stomach-aches i used to have after eating any cooked-animal food, pre-raw diet.

Primal Diet / Re: Questions from Newbie
« on: July 27, 2008, 06:47:47 pm »
This is the link on this forum re how to go about a raw, palaeolithic diet(similiar to a primal diet, but just follow the primal diet guidelines, instead):-

For good grassfed/organic meat farms  just search online under your local State(or neighbouring State), use organic-food or grassfed-meat directories like

Check out the rawpaleodiet yahoo group - on the rawpaleodiet links page, you'll find folders at the top with more advice on how to buy food cheaply, where to buy it etc.(You have to join rawpaleodiet to become a member, I'm afraid - I'll get around, sometime, to transferring the various links over here.

Wholefoods is very expensive, and very poor in quality, IMO - at least my experience of it in the UK was dismal. Some farms like NorthStar Bison will send the meat chilled instead of frozen, if you specifically ask.

Prefrozen meats are not the end of the world - in my own case, I prefer buying raw or chilled meats and only eat some prefrozen things like suet or marrow. I prefer eating the suet/marrow within 10 weeks or so, though, as frozen food does slowly deteriorate enzyme-wise etc. over time.

Re parasites:- forget about it, it's not an issue. Maybe if you visit the tropics and go out of your way to eat contaminated meats, but in the west , farmers use so many deworming medicines etc., that it virtually never occurs. Mind you, I've been eating raw meats/organ-meats from wild animals with no issues, so even that scare is something I no longer believe in.

Most people in the US find it easiest to order straight from a grassfed/organic meat farm  - here in the UK, I find it easiest to visit the local organic farmers' market(they're very successful here in London).

General Discussion / Re: Patrick Swayze
« on: July 27, 2008, 06:06:52 pm »
Good for him. If only we could contact someone that high profile about raw paleo.

There are already various celebrities doing Raw-Meat diets(eg:- Mel Gibson who follows the tiger diet consisting of raw meat and raw olive-oil(and no cooked food, I think?)), plus Uma Thurman does a raw-omnivore diet and there's been a rumour that Demi Moore, who used to be a raw vegan, is now a raw omnivore as well. I also read somewhere online that Val Kilmer was served raw-meat by a raw-foodist chef(I think he's on the Primal Diet).

General Discussion / Suggestion to all members
« on: July 27, 2008, 12:35:00 am »
There are now a multitude of websites which catalog all human knowledge, I'm having difficulty getting raw-animal-food diet-info on  wikipedia  but there are others such as wikinfo, anarchopedia and google knol, which have great potential as they're less ruthless re deleting useful info, and actually encourage the whole of human knowledge to be put online. I think I'll contribute  a page on google knol, over time, for raw palaeolithic diets.

Off Topic / Offbeat/Satiric music
« on: July 26, 2008, 07:26:52 pm »
I've just become a real fan of  satiric songs(the Uk's Ivor Biggun(eg:- "Graffiti Night Fever" , and especially the US's Weird Al Yankovic(eg:- "Don't Download This Song" etc.) I've never heard of them before. Anyone else a fan of Yankovic?

Health / Re: What do you use for sunblock?
« on: July 26, 2008, 07:18:35 pm »
I use the term suntan oil for  both really. I've hardly ever used it so haven't a clue as to the distinction.

Off Topic / Re: Nudism
« on: July 26, 2008, 06:25:08 pm »
I run barefoot now, and people always give me weird looks. Being barefoot is not strange; being required to wear clothing and shoes is. I'm really getting tired of being told it's bad for my joints, or I'm going to step on a piece of glass and regret it.
Well, it's certainly a lot worse on the joints for women wearing high-heels.

My biggest annoyance is not being able to take my shirt off, because I'm in a female body. Big, bloody deal. They're breasts, who cares? If males can be obese and unhealthy, resulting in a store fat in that area, but run around half-nude, then so can females. If you saw breasts all the time, it would be just like seeing any other part of the body, and maybe we wouldn't be breeding a culture full of women insecure about their breast shape and size.

Well, to be fair, women, nowadays, have a great deal of leeway as regards being able to wear very scanty, cool  clothing to the office in high summer - whereas men are still expected in many areas to wear the old shirt and tie, with rolled-up sleeves and male shorts being frowned upon etc.

Off Topic / Re: Nudism
« on: July 26, 2008, 06:20:44 pm »
This is my opinion on this topic.... :)
Humans have first used cloths for one main purpose, for its effectiveness in harsh external enviroments. Then later humans have made and designed clothing for culture or traditional reasons. Many humans now are turned on by the meer sight of human genetles, buttocks, or breast. It is not like this everywhere, but this cultural idea is spreading and has dominated human minds.

I was told by my parents that it was common for them in the mid-20th century  to see local women in Southeastern Asia  with their upper bodies completely naked and just wearing a grass-skirt, so as to cool themselves down. The trouble was that, with the era of holiday-flights from the 1960s onwards, Westerners came and gawped at the local women because they weren't used to it,  and so the poor women had to cover up their upper bodies and sweat like pigs in the local buses etc. Same sort of thing occurs in the Middle-East, of course, where the sight of a female ankle in some areas can cause so much male excitement that foreign female tourists are well-advised to cover themselves up in almost burqa-like fashion.

Off Topic / Re: Nudism
« on: July 26, 2008, 06:15:26 pm »
As a kid, in Illinois, only scurvy people went barefoot. I was told constantly by my parents to wear shoes. When we moved to Florida, everyone went barefooted. Especially along the coast, one could go barefooted and shirtless (males only) into a convenience store, gas station,  or even a waterfront restaurant so long as it was on a deck or outside patio.

In the UK, there are, unfortunately, a lot of prudes, both male and female, who frown heavily on young men baring their upper bodies. The result is that I only ever see bare-chested males either at the beach, or if in London, only when the temperatures become almost subtropical in August.

Health / Re: What do you use for sunblock?
« on: July 26, 2008, 06:03:01 pm »
I find I'm fine in the sun these days, with me getting a glorious tan. I don't even bother using protection, even when walking in the Alps in the height of summer. Worst I've ever had in recent years was some flakes of skin coming off my nose, but that was only a minor but temporary thing, which happened after a huge amount of sun-exposure.

Pre-raw diet, though, my skin was in an appalling shape and I got frequent sunburn because I refused to put on suntan-oil.

The trouble with suntan-oil, of course, is that it's full of hydrogenated fats and they're only effective if you use very high-factor sunoil.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Questions for Carnivores
« on: July 26, 2008, 06:10:18 am »
Yes, grassfed organic meat without nitrites, all raw(except for one very foolish experiment, during one trial, with cooked suet). I just felt dehydrated no matter how much mineral-water I drank - I also experienced a massive drop in appetite.

Raw Weston Price / Re: Fan of Price's work
« on: July 26, 2008, 05:50:50 am »
Sorry, I remember you only referred to two products. The Solaray one,  though, lists various elements as a homeopathic base - I'm a bit dubious re this - also the doses are a bit small for each gland - I'd go for a multiple supplement if the doses were much larger.

The thyroplex for men has more variety(for my purposes) than Dr Ron's Organic Organ delight multiple supplement - on the other hand, I prefer buying the glands one at a time in larger doses, rather than mixed. Still, it's worth looking into.

Raw Weston Price / Re: Fan of Price's work
« on: July 26, 2008, 05:44:28 am »
*Message deleted due to error in researching website*

Raw Weston Price / Re: Fan of Price's work
« on: July 26, 2008, 05:27:34 am »
Interesting, I've been recommending Dr Ron's supplements because I scoured the Net and found no other supplements without trans-fats such as magnesium-stearate  or similiar binders/fillers etc. So, these other websites all provide the genuine raw(well, freeze-dried) stuff from grassfed cattle with just the gelatin capsule surrounding it. I've been keen to find a cheaper source.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: July 26, 2008, 05:21:47 am »
The board as a whole is for people who eat at least a little raw animal food - only a small minority really eat only raw meats/organ-meats and nothing else - most include lots of raw meats/organ-meats in their diet  but also include some raw carbs(fruit, and to a lesser extent, raw veg). Most members on these kind of forums eat either mostly raw or all-raw.

If you look at all the palaeo evidence, you'll find that meat was at the very least the primary portion of the diet(plus some berries and similiar roughage, to a much lesser extent). That's one of the many reasons why Wrangham's idea re cooked-tubers supposedly being a major part of the Palaeo diet has been so soundly rejected by most palaeoanthrologists.

The Ice Man I think you're referring to was "Otzi" found in the Alps.He was from only 5,000 years ago, long (c.7,000 years) after  the Palaeolithic era ended. It was only in the Neolithic that seeds and grains and tubers etc. were eaten in large quantities.

General Discussion / Re: Seed Oils
« on: July 26, 2008, 05:09:38 am »
I used to take them pre-rawpalaeo diet during my supplement phase. I didn't find them useful at all, and, in hindsight, they seem rather unhealthy  not to mention non-Palaeo.

Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' Appearances and Primal Potlucks
« on: July 26, 2008, 01:38:22 am »
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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: July 26, 2008, 01:35:39 am »
The issue re Eskimos and nosebleeds has been way overblown. And Eskimos on traditional diets actually had much lower rates of heart-disease- it was when they switched to modern, refined diets that they started getting serious problems re heart-disease etc.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Questions for Carnivores
« on: July 25, 2008, 11:07:20 pm »
Re adrenals:- Raw adrenal glandulars are almost always recommended for repairing one's adrenals after they've been wrcked by stress etc. On the other hand, it's well-known that taking in artificial hormones via tablets(whether cortisol which is normally produced by the adrenals or some other hormone) tends to weaken the relevant gland in your body  - however, as long as you're eating a proper food such as the whole organ or gland and not eating a synthetic version of the hormones from that gland, then you should be fine.

Suggestion Box / Re: Centered text?
« on: July 25, 2008, 09:21:08 pm »
I agree, I don't like the centered look much, either.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Questions for Carnivores
« on: July 25, 2008, 06:04:16 pm »
I'm not a zero-carber(though I've had some unsuccessful attempts/trials with it).  During my zero-carb trials, though, I did notice that my need for water  GREATLY increased.

As regards consumption of raw adrenals, I should mention that the Native Americans used to treat the adrenals as their favourite food, according to Weston-Price. Also, I take raw adrenal supplements every day(c. quarter-ounce=a day), with no negative effects whatsoever(been doing so for several months now). My own view is that like cures like, so it's important to emulate our ancestors.

General Discussion / Re: Cooking as a biological trait’
« on: July 25, 2008, 06:12:53 am »
What would be interesting would be  a comparison between partially-raw-meat-eating Eskimoes of the 19th century and the remains of all-raw-eating cavemen/Homo Erectus etc. from more than 300,000 years ago. I do know that the eskimoes have the largest skull-sizes of modern humans, which seems to imply that the higher the animal-food-intake , the larger the brain. There's also a discrepancy in that has stated that there was a 3% drop in brain-size between 35,000 to 11,000 years ago, followed by an 8% drop during the Neolithic when grains and dairy were introduced - perhaps the 3%  drop was due to eating a higher percentage of cooked-foods in general?

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Wonderful Raw Desert
« on: July 25, 2008, 06:01:13 am »
I'm really impressed with the culinary recipes mentioned here. I personally don't bother with such arrangements, and prefer just swallowing it all raw without preparation as that saves time - but I'm well aware that many RPDers, especially women, like to prepare foods in unique ways, and I'm all in favour of that, as it adds a little compelxity to the rawpalaeo diet.

General Discussion / Re: Cooking as a biological trait’
« on: July 25, 2008, 03:22:20 am »
I simply don't believe in the whole Weston-Price notion that eating lightly-cooked/lightly-processed foods  was 100% healthy - for one thing, the native tribes he studied did HUGE amounts of exercise every day which would have helped counter a relatively unhealthy cooked  diet - plus, it's been pointed out by Palaeoanthropologists  that average human health deteriorated very fast when humans at the start of the Neolithic turned to non-Palaeo foods like fermented/cooked grains and raw or heated  dairy(both foods heavily promoted by Sally Fallon and the WAPF). I do agree that minimally-cooking/minimally-processing foods is not as bad as frying/microwaving etc., but that doesn't mean it's truly healthy.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Zero carb Euphoria
« on: July 25, 2008, 03:06:52 am »
Hi Satya still going but social situations have stopped me being 100% but only in really small amounts. Half a beer etc... it's way too hard to be 100% in social settings. I also been trying pickles and pickle juice for cramps.
I've had some fantastic results with all carnivore with some skin problems clearing up which I thought I was stuck with for the rest of my life.. My dandruff and cracked heels are 90% better..I'm really happy. I've had these non stop for 15+ years! 

I had cracked heels, which is supposed to be one of the many symptoms of adrenal burnout. You might consider getting hold of raw adrenals or a supplement thereof. Of course, cracked heels are undoubtedly a symptom for many other health-conditions, but I seem to recall that you mentioned recovering from anxiety(which is most definitely adrenal-related).

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