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I find the taste of raw kidneys to be stronger than raw liver. Trouble is that raw, aged kidneys taste, unsurprisingly, much like urine.

I  have always found the taste of raw kidneys, however aged, to taste far better than the equivalent in raw aged, liver, however aged.

General Discussion / Re: Alternative Uses for Animals
« on: June 19, 2018, 03:39:16 am »
If you can get hold of the raw, reddish, creamy , wettish, kind of marrow, then you are in luck. I had some difficulty when in the UK doing so. Now, in Austria, I can get hold of dry, sawdust-like raw marrow from raw wild boar/moufflon/grassfed beef

Personally, I really, really enjoy the taste of raw kidneys  once they were aged. Once aged, they tasted like urea, when fresh, they tasted marvellous....

Science / Re: Betaine for working out and for weak stomach acid
« on: June 19, 2018, 03:24:44 am »
Maybe I should make things clearer:-  For c. 13 years+ before I went rawpaleo, I would get awful, very painful stomach-aches after eating any cooked animal food. Never, though, after I went rawpalaeo without raw dairy. When I tried high-meat after c. 3 years, after overcoming  stupid hysteria over raw, aged meats,  it made a huge difference thereon.

General Discussion / Re: Alternative Uses for Animals
« on: June 19, 2018, 03:14:59 am »
If only I could have had the same experience re raw marrow in the UK. Maybe I am becoming too lazy...

General Discussion / Re: Alternative Uses for Animals
« on: June 19, 2018, 01:21:55 am »
Can't you find some solution to speed up the digestion of raw bones by bacteria/soil/worms? How about using smaller bones from animals such as chickens/mice etc.?

Hmm, yes. What would be your opinion on something like an ostrich egg, and from other wild game?

Thanks for the suggestion regarding wild boar and wild moufflon, I can get both of those where I am currently. Also, regarding the wild hare blood, how would you say it tasted compared to blood from domesticated animals (grass-fed and then grain-fed?)?

And what would be your thoughts on tiny lizards and insects? Surely those are legal to kill.
Complicated. I have been considering buying a Livin Farms product that effortlessly breeds and rebreeds mealworms/insects from a type of beetle. Yet, when I first experimented with rawpalaeo-aging, I did not mind(I was desperate at the time) with eating raw grassfed ox tongue, laced with fly-eggs all over, but I could not eat the stuff once the eggs turned into larvae/mealworms, due to disgust.Maybe, with proper nutrition and a cure for my silly hysteria re insects  - after all, in another later experiment, my larvae had been given woodchips to feed upon first, which no doubt made things worse. I did another experiment with cooked grasshoppers, and, while they tasted of nothing(ie bland(, and they did not evoke a pysychological distaste.

The raw wild hare blood tastes truly awesome - it's impossible to describe the  almost-religious-like-experience/drug-like high until you've had it yourself in sufficient amounts - whereas the raw blood I got from raw 100% grassfed ox,  or other sources, had no such effect whatsoever, by comparison - raw blood from grainfed sources tastes even fouler than that. Make sure, if you get raw wild game, to get it vacuum-packed or in a whole carcass freshly killed, or you will never get that same kind of experience. it is a truly  powerful feeling, really invigorating,

Raw eggs? I once ate a raw ostrich egg from the 1st Wholefoods(aka "wholepaycheck") in the UK. It was an unpleasant gimmick, the raw ostrich egg tasted awfully bland and obviously came from an ostrich fed on a 100% grain-filled diet in intensively-farmed conditions. Do what some of our more learned/more driven members do, if you can. such as Iguana/Sabertooth/Eveheart etc.etc., and try to drive to the farm and ascertain what nutrition any domesticated(formerly wild) animals of theirs actually get.The best would be, if you had your own backyard/farm, and had some chickens  etc. of your own to raise your eggs.

Lastly, when it comes to raw eggs from supermarkets, I have noticed that the raw quail eggs do taste way better than the raw chicken eggs. I suspect better nutrition in the former as a result, but feel free to make your own experimentations. Taste, ONCE you have been 90-100% RPD-Instincto for a year or more, is the key to determining the real quality of the raw food.

Science / Re: Betaine for working out and for weak stomach acid
« on: June 19, 2018, 12:53:07 am »
Also. It's funny that you guys are talking about restoring gut microbes. If you look back at the thread of stomach acids, humans have one of the strongest acids, similar to buzzards and it is thought that the acids are so strong so as to kill pathogens that cause you to get sick. Gut microbes are said to be important but I think maybe the stomach is designed to kill everything and then recolonize the ones that are beneficial after the acid is neutralized before entering the intestines. (Kill them all and let god sort 'em out!) We aren't cows that have a low concentration of stomach acid and depend on microbes to digest our food. For all we know we don't need that many microbes because we were designed to be scavengers and all this talk of them is way overblown.
I heavily disagree.  I noticed a massive difference between when I switched from raw, fresh meats(well up to 3 days from the fridge) to genuine high-meats. The way I see it, the human stomach does indeed wipe out 99% of bacteria in the food coming in, BUT, when one eats raw, aged meats, such as "high-meat", the sheer amount of extra bacteria coming in is enough to avoid being mostly wiped out, so that it adds to the intestinal flora. I am considering seriously doing high-meat for a third of the time from now on, just to see the results.

Science / Re: Betaine for working out and for weak stomach acid
« on: June 18, 2018, 11:26:13 pm »
You're right, of course. So, presumably, even in those times when I was experimenting and eating mainly high-meat, it wasn't really enough.Hmm, my one experience with intestines was with cooked tripe in the dark days before I went rawpalaeo, it was the most disgusting dish I ever ate at the time...  Well, I guess I need to somehow persuade a hunter to give me a whole whole, raw wild game carcass, preferably pre-cut and with the organs in separate vacuum-packs.

Judging from other RVAFers' reports, eggs from (non-inbred) chickens which have been raised on mostly carnivorous diets akin to their wild jungle fowl ancestors, tend to taste the best and are more nutritious.

My problem is that I can get hold raw wild game easily except from May-September(other than raw wildcaught seafood), but I am unable to get hold of most of the raw organ-meats, except occasionally. Getting a hunter's licence is way too expensive, and even just killing an animal costs a hefty bit extra. I can get hold of a variety of raw organ meats from standard domesticated animals like pigs/cows, but, admittedly, the quality is a lot "less worse" than in the rest of Europe as Austria has higher standards than the other intensively-farmed countries.

In the UK, I used to get hold of raw wild hares in vacuum-packed form., without the intestines. I would get a pint of raw blood that was the most invigorating substance I had ever consumed, along with raw meat that was itself also drenched with raw blood for better taste. I would also get the tiny organs such as raw heart, raw liver etc. I found raw swordfish, raw oysters, raw crabs, raw lobster, and raw mussels to be the best raw seafood.Just take care to leach out all the saltwater from the mussels first, beforehand. Re muscle-meat:- I highly recommend raw wild boar and raw wild moufflon.

General Discussion / Re: Alternative Uses for Animals
« on: June 18, 2018, 11:10:02 pm »
I can't see how cooked bone could be useful for the soil, let alone as food. You'd just be poisoning the worms etc.

Perhaps you could just grind up raw egg-shells?

Science / Re: Betaine for working out and for weak stomach acid
« on: June 18, 2018, 03:18:41 pm »
I thought I should point out that wild animals do not necessarily eat the whole animal. I remember reading ages ago about lions and other carnivores like cheetahs carefully removing the part containing the faeces, for example. Other animals such as killer whales often just eat the tongue of raw whale calves. Cats generally eat the whole animal. I think it's a question of the size of the digestive tract of the prey. If it is small, it's not an issue, but intestines of  larger herbivores  contain lots of faecal and vegetable matter, which might put off some carnivores.

Off Topic / Re: Raw Paleo Diet Forum Statistics
« on: June 17, 2018, 09:12:49 pm »
I actually know Paleophil in real life, we happen to live in neighboring towns here in Vermont. Your characterization of him is not remotely accurate. Why do you feel the need to tear people down like that, when you have never met them and live thousands of miles away?
I gave my opinion. His behaviour was too much like Nicola in always coming up with mysterious new negative symptoms every so often and regular  switching from 1 dietary theme to another. Nothing wrong with that in the initial stages, just a bit odd to find someone doing that years later. I was not trying to "tear him down", I even pointed out that he was a clever person and wrote interesting stuff on this forum.  Anyway,my main theme  was to debunk the notion that RVAF diets as a whole create endless  problems in the long-term. Sure, some don't fare well on raw, zero-carb or on too many carbs or cannot tolerate raw dairy etc., but people generally work  out what's suitable for themselves after the initial experiments.

Hmm, I could, of course, have been more diplomatic, and made my points without necessarily  mentioning specific individuals.  -[

I've already sent 2 PMs to GS. Hope something happens, this is really annoying.

Off Topic / Re: Raw Paleo Diet Forum Statistics
« on: June 16, 2018, 09:18:28 am »
If you want an example of someone doing RVAF for the long-term, then Iguana , who is still following the forum, is the person to check. Given that RVAF diets really got majorly (re-)started with Aajonus' books in the late 1990s, almost all other RVAFers are much newer.

Palaeophil was an enthusiastic poster, but, to be frank, like Nicola and a few others, he was not a genuine RVAFer. He was a dietary orthorexic,a neurotic, someone who is always looking for the "perfect diet" and who is never satisfied with whatever diet he is trying out - so that he, like Nicola, would regularly  invent negative symptoms in order to justify moving to some other dietary paradigm. He was actually quite a clever character, and wrote some interesting stuff.

There is something quite normal about members disappearing. It has nothing to do with changing diets. A lot of it has to do with changing online circumstances, such as Internet forums dying out due to the smartphone/facebook etc.But the real reason is that most people get tired of defining themselves by their diet. Most turned to RVAF diets out of purely selfish reasons, they wanted to get healthy. Once their health was achieved, and all their questions were answered, there would have been little point in obsessing further about diet, and they could then move on to other things, while still sticking to a RVAF diet. In other words, from being a "RVAFer", they become just some guy/gal who happens to eat raw meat.That's just normal. The long-termers who stay here usually have other  motives. I, for example, had a miserable number of decades of ill-health, with people blaming me for being lazy(i had chronic fatigue at the time)etc. etc., and my reasons for staying on this forum are mainly to help avoid others from experiencing the awful  pain and misery I had to suffer for so long - and, also, over the years, I have found that many knowledgeable RVAFers on this forum, however short- or long-term, had discovered things on their own which helped either to improve my road to health-recovery or expanded my knowledge in other areas.

GS, how do you create that exclamation mark on a yellow background? Just curious...

Science / Re: Young people are becoming stupider, say scientists
« on: June 15, 2018, 06:01:10 pm »
You've missed an important point in the previous post and then in the last post, you point out the obvious, that, on a general level, those who are having the most children are also the stupidest, while the most intelligent are also having the least children. This has been going on since the Neolithic era, which is why human average brain-size/average intelligence has been steadily declining since. One only has to look at all the great scientists/philosophers - almost all of them ended up childless.

As regards welfare, plenty of very intelligent people have exploited the system very well. After all, it is rather stupid to pay taxes which then go to support and enable others to have children on welfare. The links I provided proved the point. Sure, a few like the above get caught, but most do not because they are careful enough to stay within the law. Take 3 successful examples I know of:-

1 Afghan couple with 9 children emigrated to Vienna as so-called "refugees". They managed to collect 8,200 euros a month in benefits, some of which went for IVF so that they could have 2 more children. An Austrian couple anonymously talked to newspapers online and stated that, as long as they only worked part-time, they got all the benefits they wanted, plus if they had worked full-time, they would have had to pay so much extra tax, they would have ended up with less money in the end.

I also have heard of 1 British guy who started out with a council flat provided by the State. He then used the fact that the London boroughs never communicate with each other, being jealous of each other, toapply under aliases to 28 different boroughs, so that he managed to get 28 council flats in all, all in his name. Needless to say, what with enormous, rising house prices and rents in London, he was able to sub-let these 28  council flats for huge rents for several decades, and still hasn't been convicted, afaik.

But this is all irrelevant, and nothing to do with the current thread, which is about ALL mankind becoming less intelligent, this time involving the environmental influence, as opposed to the genetic drop in IQs.

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