Exciting times yes indeed, but I have an old quiet soul that would be at piece doing simple chores while dreaming my own dreams, in the company of others who lived and felt the same.

I am not sure how well my soul would be in a world where you are surrounded by the technical creations that make everyone ignorant of the ancient arts of good living. I see hell fire on the horizon bringing in the land of the damned so can anyone blame me for looking back at those few lifetimes of the closest thing to heaven that was ever real, at least the closest thing I will ever imagine. These generations of farm folk and hill folk that lived not long ago. They were the best examples neolithic life had to offer, at least in the eyes of this Kentucky Boy.

I am witness to things everyday that I would rather not and new technology is always incroaching on my quest for comfort. Making deals with the technical devil for the access to something called the internet is something I am guilty of, I use their machines to put into mental focus, Ideas and conceptions that would never occur to me otherwise. Is it a usefull tool like a magnifying glass that brings things into focus, or is it a tool for controlling the mind( spiritual possession).

 I think I am desensitized, to tragedy. A man told me about the time he saw a man cut in half by a steel cable that snapped while trying to pull a redwood tree up a hill. For years after it happened he would wake up screaming in night terrors, so even in Eden there is always things like that happening. I will see bad things all the time but never a nightmare. I do cry over sentimental moments, but other that sentimentality I am numb to most bad things.

So I am not so dense that I have completely written off the fact that there have been times and places where the people lived happily and into prosperous old age on farm fresh cooked foods. I have seen the remnant's of such a neolithic Eden in Northern California ,Perhaps its only gone with the wind nostalgia but I talked to people who lived from before the second world war.

There were farms out that way where the children were taught collage level material at grade school age. These one room schools were so much better for educating the young than anything else we have today. A school marm would be put up by the comunity and her sole mission would be to educate the children to the best of their abilities, this gave her the freedom to allow the bright and gifted to study anything at any grade level as soon as they were ready. The state government eventually went in and shut down these schools, even though some of the brightest minds were being produced in the old methods.

These people drank a lot of raw milk and ate cooked meats, everything was organic and fresh. They didn't seem to be affected by the damage of cooked foods .  These people ate cooked foods but since everything was so clean and pure it didn't harm them because they had pristine alimentary conditions. They knew how to balance themselves. The kids would gather dandelions for the 90 something year old Granny to make wine with. The cows were hand milked every morning. They had some type of powdered flower that they spread around the garden to repell bugs.

They practised the most wise forms of folk medicine. This man I talked to was born premature and barely 4 pounds and was sure to die. His grandmother put him in a goose egg incubator and feeds him with a dropper for weeks day and night and he lives. A country Doctor feeds anemic children a remedy of raw lungs and heart. They build their own sweat lodges and will sweat out in the wintertime. They use smoke house to prepare a good amount of their meats.

Its not heaven but when teddy Roosevelt took his tour of northern California at the turn of last century he saw a place he compaired to ancient Athens. So what the F happened and why cant we live as they did. It seems that nothing last and the progressives destroyed those farmland communities that existed throughout that part of the world. Once the kids were taken away from the Old culture and away from the untainted food, Within one generation the whole thing evaporated. The reason that it worked is because the way the generations rely upon each other ,the young worked and the old did all the odd chores while teaching the children the old traditions in the process. Once factory farms came into power then the jobs that the old and young did were gone and so the Old generation went out to pasture and the young were put into kennels(classrooms) This is to force class upon us. They teach us class alright. What is offered in classrooms is as poisonous to our spirit as the cafeteria food is to our guts.     I digress.  

My Idea is that neolithic Edens existed, but you have to recognize it for what it is. There was life,love, hate , death, ignorance, and even in the best of the communities there were some sons of bastards. They had very admirable traits, and had their flaws. What is important and primary to my interest is that they had a better quality of life, they had health and a better capacity to enjoy the precious gift of life and were not subject to the pollution that we must now endure. Is there a way back to that world ? or is it gone forever and just figment of a poor imagination?

I guess I will have to find my own Eden or die trying.

I do want to believe you, but what's the science behind that? The evidence they give is actually convincing and true to the best of my knowledge. 

There is no real double blind scientific research on what raw paleo dieters are doing. I can tell you that there is an adaption that took place in myself which allows me to thrive off of two pounds of red meat and half a pound of raw fat each day. I also eat high meat which seems to prime the gut for optimal meat digestion. Any pro vegan study out there, I can tell you, will not include subjects like myself who are already adapted to a carnivorous diet, so they can claim to be right about meat not digesting as well in the average grain eatting Joe. But I am a different animal, especially after eatting high meat; my mouth salivates with enzyme rich digestive juices and I can feel the ease at which my gut can handle over a pound and a half of raw flesh in one sitting.

 I have had no issues with digesting meats, while If I eat vegtables I will get bloated and feel terrible. Once I became adapted to meat then I lost the ability to handle vegges, Its a trade off I was willing to make. Some people can adapt to large amounts of raw meat and still digest vegtables just fine, but I cant.

I use coconut butter and haven't found anything better. Its basically cold pressed coconut oil with some of the cream and fiber dehydrated and mixed together. Its cold pressed and dehydrated at low temperatures so it is technically raw

I was just about to start a topic but found it might fit here much better, I for some coincidence have been pondering this same issue at this same time.

Variety is an important issue. is it just me or are there others that get squeamish about small game animals
People from were I live will hunt squirrel and rabbit and they usually live well into their 80s. I am surrounded by squirrels and rabbits and geese, but I am kind of shy about poaching. The last goose I picked up was excellent and so was the last squirrel.

Anyway I have a squirrel in my sink and have separated all the organs. On my way to church the road was clear, and 2 hours later a fresh squirrel is laying there still warm. I drive around and pick it up while moving along. It is in a wooded area, but is close enough to a neighborhood that might be worrysome. What could I eat on it . I have all the organs in a dish kidneys, liver, heart, and testicles, Its head was smashed, so the brain is mushed into bits of skull.(like I said small animals make me a little squeamish) The last squirrel I ate the kidneys and brains with the muscle meat, and I got a surge of energy, I think the adrenals are on the kidneys that may of been responsible, or maybe something else.

I know that small game animals might contain a different balance of nutrients than grass fed cows. I think wild game might be richer in some nutrients that may be helpful for paleo dieters that may be lacking in people who only eat grass fed live stock.

I am about ready to eat so anyone have any reason not to eat all the organs?

I agree with Hannibal. Most of these essential fat supplements that are being sold are full of BS

Flax oil is not healthy for human consumption and flax seeds are toxic. Do your own reading
http://integratedsupplements.typepad.com/integrated_supplements_bl/2008/05/from-rancid-fat.html

This stuff is being sold as healthy and its not, perhaps people can tolerate some flax in the diet, but for people who already have health issues it can be harmful. Its just a fodder food that some companies are using so that they can put omega on the label of their crap.

 Not all Omegas are created equal. I often wonder about the cheaper brand of cod liver oil that contain preservatives that include synthetic vitamine E . I see these substances being put into all types of processed foods and I often wonder if does undermine some of the health benefits in some way, or if it is used to keep substandard quality products from turning rancid.

I agree that you cant reduce Hitler too a sum of his parts and use those parts as arguments against his way of life. This goes for everyone not just Hitler. I am beyond aware of the chaos that created the circumstances that caused the rise of Hitler and I don't judge him personally as I try not to judge my other fellow humans. This visceral life can be hell, and growing up in hell can turn the brightest of angles into a demon.

Its kind of eerie how he professed the rise of vegetarianism, and he would of began mandating reduced meat consumption for his empire had he not been stopped. The Fabian class that defeated him also began the establishment of the reduced meat agenda of there own and is currently behind the pump the schoolfood with soy campain. He must of been part of the first wave of humans to be brainwashed by the major foundations brave new world agendas and was just as subject to the nutritional ignorance as anyone else at the time.

For Christ sakes he was treated with mercury for syphilis and developed some type of bowl affliction, possibly even something similar to the Candida and adrenal burnout that many of people on this forrum had suffered from.(not that I am saying that such affiliations can turn a good person into Hitler) If only I can go back in time and show him how to live paleo, just imagine how wonderful the world would be now 

(Just rambling in the new year) Shine on and rejoice, and celebrate the flesh

Hitler was driven mad by syphilis and mercury treatments long before going vegetarian. He had such gastric issues that he had trouble digesting cooked meats. Its a little know fact that he was a shy missunderstood art student before he contracted syphilis from a Jewish prostitute and was driven insane by the mercury treatments.

Someone so evil is not created by good clean organic living, he is a monster created by a polluted being, once biologically sickened he morphed into a freak that couldn't handle cooked meat and had to adopt a vegetarian diet, which probably worsened his madness. He couldn't preform at those events unless he was injected with crank right before.

In short he was suffering from syphilis madness, mercury poisoning,(Possible inbreeding), vegetarianism, and methamphetamine addiction. Knowing that its no wonder that he was capable of doing what he did. People so sick should never be given such power.

I got two goats off of craigslist for 100 dollars, they were pasture raised and grass fed. I went out to the farm and the lady had a flock of sheep and goats that she was getting rid of to downsize. They weren't certified but I talked to her about feed and she only gave them minimal grain in the winter along with hay.

 I fed them grass and milked them for my baby's for a few months and then slaughtered them and ate them at the beginning of my raw diet. Best 100 dollars spent ever. I am not sure how to bleed them safely without over doing it.

I have very little gas now that I am on this diet of animal foods with a little coconut.
I have a foul mouth that makes up for the lack of gas. I personally like the dog breath so its a fair trade.

One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

H.S.T

I used to get some minor soreness around my abdomen. That's gone now. Eczema and feeling sick is a bummer though.

I used to suffer from pain in my abdomen, I think it was from a conjested liver, you are probably clogged up as well and cant eliminate properly. It does suck I was there about a year ago, I got great improvement on this diet,


The good Samaritan has experience with helping eczema, perhaps he can give some advice.

Just curious,

Is a RAF diet more effective for eliminating candida than a cooked no/low carb diet?

If so what is the mechanism behind this?

I have a more holistic approach to dealing with candida, I think that you have to first, nourish your body with the optimal foods and build up the strength of the mitochondria within the cells(with plenty of grassfed fat) once your body becomes properly nourished then it will begin the function of clearing out the fungus naturally. There is no way to flush it out until the body is nourished enough to handle the dieoff. I think a body that is so poisoned with candida that it cant handle elimination of metabolic waste and becomes congested, doesn't need to add the extra burden of the toxins created by cooking. Raw foods being free from these toxins provide a more option. Raw animal fats are extremely cleansing.

I ate yogurt and milk and even made home made kefer, and yes it made me flem up with mucus, but I thought it was helping with candida so I ate it anyway. The benefits are so mild and often the side effects are so mild that its hard for many people to perceive whether or not dairy is good for them in the big picture sense. Some people just don't pay close attention.

There are a lot of others on this site that will agree that dairy is a troublesome food, and I saw quickly that it wasn't good for me as well. Even if the mucus isn't building up in your throat, doesn't mean that the milk doesn't turn into a problem in the gut . Its a big grey area and I don't want to proclaim that its bad for you personally, I just think you should consider taking it out of the diet for an extended period while replacing it with more raw paleo food, and let your body decide if you are better off without it. Some people have to get past the withdrawl stage before feeling better.

I am genuine in my concerns about raw dairy, and am adamantly against the use of probiotic supplements while on a paleo diet. Its just not necessary, unless you are using dairy; then in that case it could ease some of the symptoms associated with poor digestion of dairy, but If you have such symptoms you would be better off without either .