I agree its a chicken vs egg situation....does exposure to healthy bacteria lead one to seek healthy foods, or does exposure to healthy foods inherently promote the growth of healthy bacteria? 

Such questions are at the hearts crux of this long standing conundrum, where rational science is seemingly willfully ignorant of the spiritual and energetic nature of what makes for a healthy balance, within all biological systems. Foods that are pure and unadulterated will feed the growth of life promoting microbes...but even catabolic microbes which dissolve and decay have a necessary place in maintaining the balance. The synergy of the entirety of lifes symbiosis, cannot be parsed into bits of linear data. False dichotomy between good and bad bacteria does not hold up to the newer discoveries which go beyond the limitations of the defunct Germ Theory of disease hypothesis.

The presences of different strains of bacteria that are prebiotically cultivated in the gut are not the cause in and of themselves of the conditions of health or disease...instead they are more like a symptomatic indication of the holistic synergy...The modern day Priest of the white coat clans, are only beginning to uncover the pervasive interrelationships between the almighty microbes and its human subjects. There is still much room for misunderstanding and misinterpretation of the data...this is in part due to a deeply and hopelessly ingrained pathos, that these natural and spiritual elements which promote health and vitality, within living symbiotic systems, can somehow be isolated, extracted, patented and then sold as a cure all to people whose own environments are in want of healthy conditions.

The implications are profound.

Its very likely these microbes directly affect the functioning of the brain, and could even alter the behavior of the organism on a wholistic level. This crescendo of complex symbiotic dances, of worlds within worlds, of dynamic creation manifest, is just beginning to be understood.

If gut microbes produce the precursors to neurotransmitters in the gut, excrete mutagenic substances which alter the form and structure of the entire nervous system, and are found to be living in symbiosis within the tissue of the brain, then what role would they play in controlling the mind and behavior of its host organism? (Fascinating)

Could it be that the catabolic symbiotic putrefying gut bacteria consumed by our ancient ancestors had neurogenic properties which directly stimulated the genesis of our extraordinary cerebral systems. Think of high-meat and its euphoric effects...and of the bacterial process which would convert the proteins and fatty acids of prey animals into the most awesome evolutionary feat ever( the doubling in size of the hominid brain) Were these brain bacterial organisms passengers along for the ride or are they the conductors of the crazy train that is the human mind?

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Balance can be difficult to find, especially when inundated with conflicted information. The human nature under the influence of artificial environmental conditioning, has become so detached from being able to fully trust instinct, and so we rely heavily on intelligence to generate creative solutions to the problems that arise with the severance from nature. This increasing reliance upon information creates a vicious circle which has taken us so far from our evolutionary environment, that finding a balance between the instinct and intellect becomes an impossible feat.

Dairy simply never worked well for me, but being exposed to AV and many others lead me to once believe that if only I adopted the correct protocols and followed the prescriptions religiously then I could provoke proper adaption. Eventually I got the message that dairy just didn't work well for me personally, and life is much better without it.

There are just too many blind spots in the logic behind Dairy consumption persistence adaptations. The conditions which had to occur in order for humans to form a balanced adaption to heavy dairy consumption, is for the most part too extreme to reproduce in the modern era. Imagine nearly starved pastoral herds peoples, braving the extreme conditions of life on the frontier. During certain seasons they would be ravenous for anything which would allow them to simply survive to the next season. Learning to utilize dairy, fermenting it, making cheeses, butter, gave people an advantage...but it must of taken countless generations to adapt.... living on the brink of imbalance...consuming large amounts of rotten milk, having the infants nursed by mothers also consuming copious amounts of dairy throughout her life. Transgenerationally passed down antibodies and very early inoculation with lacto-friendly microcosms allowed for a delicate balance form.

But this balance was extremely precarious from the very beginning, and once the mother to offspring cycle was broken...this prenatal and postnatal dairy tolerance inoculations through prolonged breast milk feeding, and weaning directly to fermented dairy...then this balance was lost. Some people who haven't been to harshly effected by the modern afflictions may still have remnants of this dairy digestion persistence, but many other are totally intolerant and it would be foolish for those people to continue to pursue dairy based dietary protocols.

My mother was formula fed, I was only breast fed for 4 month, I was given multiple antibiotics as a baby, and drank pasteurized milk for my entire childhood until i finally realized it was actually behind many of my health issues. Ive learned to accept this fact and have moved on to seeking out foods which can heal and nourish that are not so troublesome to the system. Perhaps if I had no other choice like our ancient ancestors I could force myself into some haphazard tolerance to dairy and ignore the negative instinctive signalling for long enough to redevelop the kind of mutations which would reintroduce dairy digestive resistance into the modern gene pool...but as of now that just seems counter intuitive to how i wish to spend my life......After a short time of experiencing mucous stools, constipation, feeling horribly, or whatever other symptoms of dairy woes, I would advise people reconsider dairy elimination.

Perhaps this may be extreme, but the first symptoms of intolerance to any-food, will cause me to to pause and weigh out the pros and cons, using both instinct and intellect, to decide what next to do. Its gotten to the point where I will throw out an entire animal if after a few days it doesn't suit me, even if there isn't anything visibly wrong with it.

I had some tree ripe limes grown in a backyard in florida, that were far beyond better tasting than anything from the grocery stores. I was trying to get a friend to mail some to me, but the fruit cartels have lobbied for strict laws prohibiting mailing produce over state lines.

There is something not entirely good about much of the organic label citrus at the health food store. I think they are treating and fertilizing with things that may be organic labeled, but are not totally natural...they also harvest most fruit way before it is fully ripe. It can be tolerable, but its not Ideal.

I have a small orange colored lime tree in a pot, that produces some very small fruit, perhaps in a couple of years it will get large enough to bare a useful quantity. Though very small, the fruit is very good.

The same issue seems to be with a number of other products, the organic label is often not a good indication of quality.

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The infamous "racist milk" meme started by the former forum member now known as Milkjar, the supper raw meat eating troll, continues to inflict its tolls upon many of weak minded socialjustice-centric fools.....mewhahahaha

According to Legend, the Buddha after a long period of fasting and renunciation of worldly comforts, accepted a bowl of milk soup and soon after had his divine illumination....where he envisioned the Middle Whey...as the path to enlightenment.

So its possible that the central precepts of Buddhism were based upon one mans dairy induced hallucination.

Seems like a dubious article, that does not clearly establish proper controls, does not distinguish between factory farmed animals and pasture raised, nor does it acknowledge the plethora of other variables likely involved. 

Parts of industrialized Europe are likely contaminated, and sheep raised in these areas may accumulate higher levels of pollution in their organs....especially if the animals are being fed industrial feeds, drinking from contaminated water, living on poor overgrazed pastures.

There is some kind of false perception being sold about the EU standards being something legitimate and trustworthy. Though many organisations do provide a baseline level of oversight which prevents the most blatant forms of food contamination, generally speaking the systems of regulation, regardless of what part of the world should be viewed with scepticism and be subject to independent scrutiny.

I doubt those animals tested in this report would in any way relate to the quality of animals raised outside the scope of the standard commercial livestock paradigme. The organs of animals raised in uncontaminated areas, drinking from pure water sources and grazed on unpolluted and lush pastures should be just fine.

I encourage people to take personal responsibility in finding these pristine sources for themselves, and try at all cost to avoid having to give blind trust over to faceless regulators that oversee food production operations that are hidden from public view.

Three days seems to be the magic number of days which can begin to reset digestion and metabolism, without any major disruptions to day to day life. Unless you are incurable ill with some rare dread disease or have insulin dependant diabetes, there shouldn't be a reason why one wouldn't be able to fast for three days.

Whenever I stray to far from the path it is only for a short time before I notice the signs and so a short fast of 24 to 36 hours is all that i need to realign, afterwords I always feel much better right away.

For people who are entirely inundated through long term consumption of antigenic foods, three days is a minimum I would suggest for people who are not use to long term fast. Its not as much as I believe long term fasting is ultimately necessary for cleansing, for a nourishing diet free of allergenic substances will clean and heal the body by itself....that said a full three day fast is helpful for people who need to distance themselves from detrimental and addictive eating habits.

Cold turkey is the best way to break an addiction, and it usually takes at least two days to begin to clear gut gunk out and jumpstart the deep cleansing process. By the third day once full ketosis is initiated then one usually begins to feel the positive effects of cleaning house, afterwards if you begin to eat small amounts of meat, organs and keep everything extremely low carb for the next couple of weeks, then you should notice a huge difference in how your gut feels. It can take up to three weeks to clear out the allergenic proteins from the intestinal lining and begin to permanently heal the gut and reform the gut biome. During the reintroduction to foods following a fast many people tend to give up way too soon at the first sign of difficulty and revert back to old habits.... or else will self sabotage by taking supplements or using extreme  dodgy protocols...but if one stays the course and doesn't cheat then there can be an opertunity to reprogram ones instinctive eating drives, and break free from lifelong negative habits.

This protocol is only a suggestion, and I acknowledge it may not work for everyone, but in the spirit of "first do no harm" I believe this course of action is a very safe and reasonable experiment for people struggling with a plethora of digestive issues.

The price I pay for maintaining optimal raw carnivorous adaption, is having to adhere to very strict limitations. No cooked foods, No honey or dairy. Very limited amounts of low glycemic, low starch plant foods. Sometimes I will crave and eat small amounts of random foods such as tree nuts, rose hips, pumpkin seeds, other fermented foods like kombucha and Raw fermented coconut yogurt ,as well as adding wider variety to my salad mixes. Nothing too extreme....small amounts of onions, herbs, avocado, olives, olive oil and vinegar, a pinch of shredded raw cheese.

Almost always my body tells me when I have had too much of something, and I will lose all inclination for such exotic gastronomic machinations. All these other foods are eaten intermittently and in very modest portions.

Within a couple of days of any cheating results in bad symptoms of food intolerance. At that point I will usually fast for a day and go back to the strict raw meat and fat based diet. Cooked foods no longer are an option, every now and then I can tolerate small amounts of lightly cooked fish, but regular consumption of cooked meat causes bloating and poor digestion. On occasion I have tried eating cooked bone broth and other types of paleoish soups. Small amounts are usually not a problem, but there is a stopping point, that if crossed leads to negative symptoms.

Unpleasant symptoms will usually resolve when the problem foods are eliminated. Though I do not claim this to be the ultimate orthorexia orthodoxy, typically a clean diet of clean food that is well suited to the individuals biological needs should not need anything else to facilitate cleansing and rejuvenation. Most cleansing protocols recommended by the alternative health field are misguided and often more harmful than good. If the body cannot cleanse itself through balancing the diet and environment, adding extraneous protocols or supplements wont offer lasting relief. If a diet doesn't seem to work without having to implement such supplemental protocols then the diet may need to be adjusted.

Yes, Dairy does cause me a number of negative issues, such as bloating constipation and fatigue. Usually by the third consecutive day of consuming even minimal amounts will cause these issues, and by the second day of dairy cessation those issues will resolve.

Yeah now that you mention it, it did feel similar to a die off reaction,  and after I stopped I did feel a lot better. There are some powerful microbes in this batch, nearly all the sugar has been consumed, and it bubbles with effervescent fermentation.

Its that sensation on the tongue of a slightly sour, enzymatic, tingly feeling that seems intuitivly good...For about a week I would only steal a little taste from my girlfriends stash, only a couple of spoonfuls a day, and felt real good with it, but after buying my own and compulsively consuming 4 jars in a three day period, the microbiol effects were unexpectedly too strong.

I think that there is some merit here worth being explored further, this may be helpful for people who are overrun with overgrowth, and could benefit from more whole food based solutions.

My girlfriend has an on again off again addiction to dairy, and will occasionally binge on sugar laced cows milk yogurt, but has recently switched over to this coconut yogurt and she seems to do well with it. It seems a better alternative to the dairy based probiotics, as well as the caffeine and sugar laced kombutcha drinks that she was drinking.