Traditional pro-biotics don't help much in the way of meat digestion and the claims that they are effective in treating candida are over exaggerated, although fermented milk products can ward off candida they do nothing to rid the gut of the conditions that allow for it to persist. Its benefits are often outweighed by the fact that milk proteins cause excessive gut mucus and keep the gut from completely cleansing it self. This has been my personal experience. I ate Kefir and yogurt for years thinking it was helping me with candida, it did seem to alleviate some of my symptoms but it never corrected the underling problems.

Hannibal
I have posted before about how I prefer lamb high meat and I have also noticed that it does not get moldy like other meats, it turns grey and has the best smell and flavor of all high meats I have tryed so far. I have just started some venison about two weeks ago and used my old lamb jar as an inoculate so far it is very slimy with little signs of mold, I have tried a couple of pieces and so far its going wonderfully.

Av talked of mold and bacteria being in highmeat. so even he isn't too concerned about categorizing all the strains of organisms that grow on his high meat.

 The whole question has to be yes or no, because someone choosing to try it out must say yes I agree based on what these people here say about the benefits of highmeat and based on their testimony I will must decide yes or no. Its a very grey area indeed.

For us who are on the high meat bandwagon, its hard to get some people to realize that even if the meat isn't rotten in some clinical fashion and is composed of x y z strains of bacteria, it is still safe, because we don't really know ourselves what people put into their jars or what their digestive system can handle based on what we are told. It takes a leap of faith, and even Av himself had to take that plunge into the danger zone.

We are still years away from them shutting down free expression over the web, but I agree that there are some really powerfull forces that have an interest in shutting people like us up, but the genie is too far out of the bottle, so until internet two is established, and everything is run directly through some government control panel,( possibly within the next few years) we are relatively free here to rave about rotten meat here, thank God

I opened 5 different highmeat jars today and ate a small piece from each, and had a fairly Mary Christmas, My dreams were extremely weird and I was dancing on some loft balcony at some inchanted resort over an ocean of sea demons, a couple of nights ago I went on an Arctic journey to hunt the ice dragon, Besides that kind of weirdness I haven't had any issues with high meat. If I don't eat enough fresh meat with my high meat I will get extremely hungry. I went to Christmas dinner without eatting anything before, besides a couple of eggs and high meat and by the time I got home I was starving.

I have noticed differences between the different jars of high meat I have. If it grows allot of the green mold on it I usually throw it out, and some of it has a fruity taste that gives me good energy but makes me feel a little weird. I now have a jar that I have been using for the last 11 months, once its about empty I will just throw some more meat in and let it quick rot on the counter for a couple of weeks, It produces the best tasting and most positive effects so I try to keep that strain alive.

I do often wonder about aberrations of highmeat that contains an imbalance of mold toxins, but from my experience you do build a quick tolerance to it and it has immune stimulating benefits that outway the risk, at least in my personal experience. I haven't had food poisoning and have not been sickend by high meat, in fact I don't get sick like I used to at all, everyone else in my family gets the winter colds and viruses, and  when everyone is all stuffed up and run down for a week straight I will only experience a day of felling a little down, I know its the same bug that is making some people bed ridden , but I am not effected by it as I would have been prior to this diet, This is the first Christmas season in years that I have not been ill with something and I give thanks to both the raw diet and high meat.

The mild poisoning caused by eatting high meat that is a little unbalanced could still provide a positive overall effect and perhaps the experience could leave one more able to handle and purge toxins in general. when I first started eatting high meat IT gave me loose stools , but after about the 4th time my digestion was so much improved that I wasn't bothered by it, especially because I felt so good. I think I had such a poor gut ecology and was so overrun  with pathogenic organisms that I needed high meat to prime my guts immune system and purge out the harmful organisms. I can only claim this from my own experience, but from testimony's from others and even seeing Av himself use high meat for years without killing himself should provide proof that its reasonably safe to try.

Did Dima start out by eating only a pea sized amount and then slowly inceasing the amount, I first started by using a marble sized amount and after I didn't feel anything for a day I ate about a teaspoon and that was enough to trigger the high effect as well as loose stools at first.

I have limited experience with narcotics but I am sure that high meats work in a completely different way, the fungal, mold, and bacterial, toxins, trigger the release of serotonin, which helps elevate mood, well being and immune function. While narcotics just numb the nerve centers with opiates that cause a release of dopamine and is overall detrimental. I think because the serotonin release is triggered by eating organisms that are naturally present in decayed flesh, it may have been something that evolved with us at the time our ancestors were the most primal and were eatting large amounts of animal flesh, the boost in serotonin does strengthen the immune system and is beneficial to the nerves in the gut. Artificial serotonin re-uptake drugs seem to damage the bodies capacity to make and use serotonin, were as high meat seems to increase the bodies capability to make and utilize serotonin.

 I call my high meat primordial soup, because I let it age until liquid and scoop off the slime and eat it while the solids are left to mature. Like the kimodo dragon with its mouth full of flesh eating bacteria, I too have a gut primed with flesh eating organisms. I can tell after I eat high meat my stomach can empty itself of a large meal in no time, while as if I don't use high meat for a few days I can feel full for hours. Also I will get a thick saliva after eatting high meat and it thoroughly cleans my mouth and I can feel an overall increase in the production of digestive juices. For some one who is more carnivorous like myself high meat does seem almost necessary for me to be able to digest completely the 2.5 to 3 pounds of fresh meat I eat every day. I may be able to get the same digestive benefits by just aging my fresh meat until it gets a little high but I have found that eatting a small bit of high meat before a large meal is so convenient and effective.  

My kids like fish and my son really loves steamed shrimp (its one of his favorite foods, I wish I could get it for him more often), as well as scallops soaked in butter with a squirt of lemon juice. He was already 3 when I started this diet so his first foods were cooked. I will cook his eggs in lamb fat (I slow render my own and soak a lot of their food in it).

I believe children with pristine constitutions can thrive off of a mixed diet as long as it is done wisely and problem foods and junk foods are strictly limited and raw animal food made available.

I have been able to shift my sons tastes so that now he loves to eat things rare or even just seared. It's a big step for him. My girls will eat what I eat with no complaints, I believe because they were much younger when I began this diet (newborn and 15 months). 

I don't  know maybee I jumped to conclusions she is gnawing on a hunk of lamb and seems very happy, perhaps she just didn't like the Deer and suet I was feeding her earlier, I agree the lamb belly is far better tasting.  Although her appetite for cooked foods does worry me, I will try to be less obsessive.

 It is more convienient for my wife to make meals for all three and my son likes cooked eggs and bacon so its a matter of maternal care, she does so much for me that I dont want to bicker about a little home cooking. I have managed to get him to eat seared meats which is a hallmark moment for me.

Its been eons since I studied the science behind infrared detoxification, there was a radio guru named Robert Scott bell who would proclaim it as being a safe way to rid the body of toxins, the heat is suppose to build up just under the surface of the body which stimulates the sweat glands into Acton much more safely than just a hot air sauna, it will trigger extreme sweat without causing the overall body temperature to rise above safe levels.

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The circle of iron
This is one of my favorite worst movies I have seen, Its so bad its good

I think the basic story was written by Bruce Lee, but he died before it could be made into a movie, David Carradine  plays the role of a blind mystic who uses a bell on his toe to echo locate and he can kick some major ass with his flute. Its beyond bad, but very amusing. In the end the seeker discovers the truth within himself and returns to the path as a teacher for others, completing the great circle

I follow some aspects of instincto, even before I read much about it I began to tune my diet based on what I was craving and also began to avoid foods I believed were causing me problems. I did need the support of differing view points in order to affirm some of my suspicions about how dairy was not optimal or that one could live well on an extremely low carb diet.

I believe that all view points can give valuable insight into what makes for an optimal diet, but in the end it is up to the individual to filter out what does not fit into ones personal needs, which is often a very difficult task if you consider how different one person can be from the next in regards to nutritional requirements and tolerances. Also many people have been so altered by past issues that they may not be able to trust there instincts and really do need to be guided by the advice of others in order to find out what works for them. If it wasn't for this forrum I would not of so quickly discovered that there are better alternatives to the primal diet that I first began to experiment with. I believe that Av has a bit of truth in what he says and does, but I also believe that some of what he recommends does not apply to everyone and for people who cant tolerate dairy and green drinks his protocol could end up causing some problems.

To live a whole lifetime on modern foods can leave us without our senses and unable to trust our instincts. Durring the early adaptions to a paleo diet there are moments were decisions have to be made on very crucial issues and I don't think many people can go by instinct alone, I had some basic intuition about things when I was beginning to adapt, I was driven to heal and once I began to feel better I started to really focus on what I need to do to optimise my diet. This open forrum is the best source out there I have found of information that is on the cutting edge of what works for individuals as well as what doesn't work, in regards to the raw paleo diet. I believe that one must at least consider all that is available when seeking out an optimal path that will lead to a positive  transformation. There are so many variables to success that no one philosophy can possible encapsulate a universal truth when it comes to dietary dogma.

I have many of my own theory's that are somewhat out there. I think many people who attempt this diet and fail are doing something wrong, although because of the limited information they often post, it is hard to make out what the real issue is. Many  people who begin this diet are not willing to give it 100% and they still do things like take harmfull dietry supplements, (even things like synthetic vitamin C can be harmful) I threw out all of my supplements when I began this diet and from my past experience I have become skeptical about the use of synthetic vitamins either taken by supplement or placed into our food as vitamin D is put in Milk. . Some might also hang on to troublesome foods and keep insisting that its good for them even though their health isn't being improved. We cant possibly make healthy recommendations for people who are holding on to some harmful pratice that they refuse to let go of,  considering the limited information that is presented before us.

I think the forrum works best If we all just explain things from our personal experience and then pepper our perspective with reason, derived from our own research and validated by our own practice.

I buy marrow bones for 2 dollars a pound and have to limit myself to about 4 pounds week. Its good nutrition and is a valuable source of fat, but cost can be an issue. I have become good at looking at the frozen bones and picking only the ones that are full of marrow. Now that the holiday orders have already been filled the stores have been able to get a good supply. They are not 100% grass fed, they usually come from this Ohio signature beef which is grass fed and finish on grain for 14 days before slaughter. 14 days of grain is a decent compromise and I doubt that the marrows nutritional values are much harmed by it.

The grass fed meats they have at the whole foods comes from Georgia and I may just be a little prejudice, but Georgia soil ain't the richest in the world and I don't really much like the taste of the grass fed beef that I have gotten. I have been lucky to find a source of Kentucky black Angus and that with my free lamb fat and an occasional road kill make up the bulk of what I eat. The black angus I get is fairly fatty as well, although the past couple of months my source has dried out and I have had to live on lamb and deer.

I have my little badly weened out bits of raw meat , fat, and berries and am supplamenting with a home made formula. I don't think that you should ween directly into keto. I am attempting to keep the food intake to equal a similar carb to fat ration of breast milk , perhaps a little more raw protein. From what I can tell it works wonderfully and if I am lucky perhaps one day I can write a book about what I am doing.

I am zero to low carb because of my past health history, but in general my people tolerate carbs well and I believe if I just provide my children with raw fats and protein while strictly limiting processed foods as well as some other protocol, then I believe they will be able to thrive wither or not they go ketogenic or not.

If you are going through adaption you should be able to taste it and smell it in your urine. I had a really strong taste in my throat that went away after a few weeks when I became adapted. I have never left ket yet so I am not sure of what to expect if I were to eat a bunch of carbs.