So Im experimenting with high meat. Ive left a lambs liver in the fridge now for about 2 weeks and it looks so bad i think it might be good enough to eat. How do i know? Also, i just cut up some chicken and put in a jar to go high  like AV does - should i leave in the sun, the cupboard or the fridge? Any tips on how to go about this safely is appreciated! Cheers!

Last year I tried fermenting raw potato pulp and ended up slightly poisoned, so that I couldn't walk straight and kept veering to one side and bumping into things! I had to stay home for the day to let my brain recover.

Now I stick to vegetables containing safe resistant starches like cauliflower, cabbage, carrots, celery, broccoli, spinach, and beans.

Holy shit! Ill keep that in mind

Anyone eat raw potato or other raw starchy carbs? Im eating raw sweet potato and although it doesnt taste as good as if it were roasted, I digest it way easier (i.e. I have get no pain). Im now starting to ferment some potatos to better the digestibility and hopefully taste and texture. Anyone else do/try this? Im also going to start fermenting oats and see how they make me feel.

Fruits and nuts provide carbohydrates, so why not eat a raw-paleo carb when you want more carbohydrate? Since you mention inflammation, it might be wise to test to see which foods inflame your system. Just pick a symptom of inflammation and watch for it after eating each food. I finally did this testing and was able to identify individual raw foods that trigger discomfort.

My inflamming foods are, not coincidentally, the ones I tend to crave. Wheat and potatoes are among the common triggers. If you "crave" carbs, eat cooked broccoli or yam rather than cooked wheat or potato so you would have less collateral damage in terms of inflammation.

Fruit and nuts dont provide all the carbs i need. Potatoes included barely do. Maybe they will when im healthy, but at the moment the cravings are overwhelming, particularly if i exercise. I actually plan on fermenting my starchy carbs and see if that helps

I do not do better eating lots of fruit. That makes me eat too much in general. I do eat more fruit in the summer because eating more than a small amount of raw meat in a hot climate makes me even hotter than I am, but otherwise I am raw low-carb.

A lot of people (or at least published experts) tend to advice reducing or cutting out fruit. Ive tried this but feel much better on fruit. It really agrees with me. I tried raw dairy again and it makes me feel like shit. Right now im doing the raw paleo -- raw meat, raw fruit, raw nuts and some roots and veges. I feel much better, fat better than if i do raw meat alone. Perhaps when i heal i can do raw meat but the fruit certainly helps the transition
 

Are you sure these were grams of protein, and not grams of meat? 950 grams of protein would be over 5kg (11lb) of 15% fat beef, for example. 500-950 grams of meat a day is totally doable. 300 grams of protein from chicken breast with skin would be around 1.5kg (3.3lb).

No way it was protein. Thats a crazy amount. She meant protein as in meat....surely...

It all depends on the individual, his build, normal weight, gender, age etc. Although AV, with his recommendations to eat vast amounts of food a day is not to be trusted.

Cheers Tyler. The person who gave me this advice followed AV.

Do you find that you can eat, say, 300 grams of chicken and not at all feel full, but the same amount cooked would fill you? I find that and its weird. I feel like I could eat 1kg of raw chicken but im not sure if its a good idea...

Some interesting comments on raw animal fats. The last paragraph quotes AV.  Just wondering if others here get most of their energy from raw animal fats, and if so, how much do you eat? I vaguely remember Robb wolf recommending "good fats" such as avocado, nuts, olives etc. Am I wrong in concluding that the REAL good fats are raw pasture raised animal fats? Has there ever been a more vilified food than animal fats, and yet logically, it makes perfect sense that it is our bodies preferred energy source and has been for hundreds of thousands of years?

"The difference between cooked animal fat and raw animal fat is night and day. One is corrupted and one is pure and natural. The problem with 21st century common thinking is that people consume corrupted fats everyday in cooking oil and processed foods. Humans are fativores, we just love fat, and since people have been deprived of natural raw animal fats, they gravitate towards any fat and these seed oil fats and cooking oil fats and trans fats are very very much inflammation causing and damaging.

Raw animal fat is very good for all of us. The key is raw. The animal fat must be raw. Raw ANIMAL FAT is superior to raw fruit fat. Raw fruit fat is a far secondary fat to raw animal fat. Raw animal fat can come from grass fed land animals and ocean wild animals. Raw animal fat can be likened to a “parent essential oil / fat” – unprocessed – as pure as mother nature makes it. This pure raw animal fat hydrates us, lubricates us and nourishes us. It is raw animal fat that is missing on the modern 21st century diet. "

"For each individual the proper ratio of raw animal products may vary. Experience has shown me that over time raw animal products produce the calmest, most balanced human nature with excellent mental clarity. For the last few years my raw animal products consumption has been approximately 80% by volume of my diet. I restrict high fructose fruit to one a day and almost always eat it with a high fat food such as unsalted raw cheese, raw butter, raw cream, raw milk, raw egg(s), avocado and/or raw coconut. As an example of the extreme, the Eskimo ate 99% raw animal products and lived free of degenerative disease before white men introduced cooking cauldrons, breads and refined sugar to them. By several accounts of world travelers and explorers they considered the Eskimo the happiest of all races. Their first case of dental decay was 50 years after cauldrons, breads and refined sugar were introduced. The dental caries only existed among those who ate some or all of white man's food. Cancer never occurred among primitive Eskimo. "

did you eat fat very close to going to bed?  its possible your digestion isnt up to par and it just sat in your stomach and the pains in the morning were your gallbladder.  if you felt nauseous, like you were going to possibly barf or even diarrhea or had any pains in your back then gallbladder stress was likely the cause.  just dont eat so much fat in one sitting and make sure to give yourself quite a few hours between your last meal and sleeping, and possible a nice walk or gentle exercise in between.  what else did you eat?

Yes, that's quite possible. It probably did just sit there in my stomach. I also think that food is escaping into my blood stream through intestinal/stomach permeability. I ate some intestinal fat, some liver, some stomach and some really nice "mousse" like fatty cut near the heart.

Also, i cleaned the meat as best i could before freezing it, but some parts, like the stomach, are near impossible to clean. Is it ok to freeze it as is, then take out, clean again as best as possible before eating?

dry them, use a clean cloth, dont put them in bags wet, they will start to break down really fast that way.  dry them and hang them or let them sit on clean dry plates in the fridge.  if they end up on plates, flip them occasionally and make sure you wipe up wetness on the plate.

thanks jessica. Done all that. I have to freeze them hey? Will doing so affect its quantity and digestibility? if so i might try and each as much as i can this week

So I finally got my organs after nearly 6 months of trying! They are in my fridge right now, covered in shit, digested food and blood! Its beautiful.

Firstly, I already made a thread on hunting deer to obtain them; and what to ask the farmer who was providing them, so Tyler, sorry for starting a new thread on a similar topic. Please delete them if you want as they are no longer relevant.

My questions now are regarding safety and preparation.

1) Firstly, I got nearly all of the organs/glands of 2 organic deer. They killed them the very morning i picked them up. I left in the morning and drove to the farm which took me about 4 hours. They were in the cold room when i arrived. Unfortunately, the stomachs were so full it couldn't fit in my esky with ice. Neither them or I had done this before so i didnt know to just empty them there. What we did was just let out some air, jam it in the esky and try and get home quickly to get them refrigerated. Unfortunately, it took me about 5 hours to do this. It wasn't a hot day or anything but i wonder if this is an issue?

2) When i finally got home i started to cut and clean. Man its a big job. I spent about 2 hours and they are still not clean. I was very hesitant about where to cut so what took me 2 hours would probably take an expert 30 min. I was also tired after such a long day so i wasn't very thorough or motivated. The organs are now in the fridge, they have been cleaned but they are far from clean. I was going to clean them again in the morning. Is this ok to leave them like this over night or do i really need to clean them properly ASAP? Also, can anyone give me any tips or advice in cleaning the organs: do they need to be squeaky clean? Do they need to be cleaned properly before frozen? I found this video on how to clean a stomach: youtube.com/watch?v=UKj0ylWqRYg

3) Obviously i will be eating these raw, but id like to get some advice on how to eat them. Once they are clean, can I just freeze them and take them out when i want them, and eat them raw? Should I freeze them for 2 weeks to be safe like ive read elsewhere? Here is a video of Sabertooth preparing a stomach and blood shake: youtube.com/watch?v=E98CXkg_UXo&index=5&list=FLyuzz1bWlhVuUZsznVvoEKA

eyes and tongue.

Thanks Jessica. I will ask for that too.

You could order a sheep from a farm and have the butcher keep the organs bagged up.

No I cant. Thats the point. There are only certain cuts of animals that are deemed suitable for human consumption within Australia. Some of the cuts I want are deemed unsuitable and are therefore illegal. There isn't a licensed butcher or abattoir in the country legally able to provide them to me. And even some of the more obscure cuts that I want that are legal, require specific licenses to be able to provide them. In addition, they have to process these obscure cuts in a certain way that satisfies the food safety department. Because of this cumbersome and expensive process, these legal but obscure cuts are extremely hard to get, and organic ones are basically impossible.

A farmer that wants to consume all these illegal and obscure parts must raise the animal, kill it on their property and provide it only to his or her immediate family. Even if it the farmer were my best friend or uncle, it would be illegal to invite me over for dinner to share in it. Of course, I couldn't give a shit about these ridiculous laws, but believe me: butchers, farmers or abattoirs all do. They are scared of the fines and repercussions.

I found a place about 2 hours drive from me where I can go hunting with the property owner and kill a deer for $550. I dont know whether that is good value or not. I would enjoy hunting ordinarily, but im so damm tired, weak and sick that I just want to pay for the meat, eat it and heal myself. In fact, im only after the organs, blood etc. which in that case probably means $550 is ridiculously expensive.

I haven't told him about my health problems either. I did tell him ive never been hunting before and I sensed a degree of reluctance, so I figured if i told him I was sick, he would find it too burdensome and find an excuse. The fact is Im exhausted. Im so weak that I can barely bench press 40kg, and Im in constant pain and can barely sleep. Im not complaining at all, im simply concerned I dont have the faculties to successfully hunt a deer. I told him I can come up next week. Should be interesting....