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Your question says "forever". You may be able to "rewild" for a time, but with the current state of the earth you can not escape to the wild, have a family, children & grandchildren, the support of a tribe, etc. outside of civilization. You have been assimilated, resistance is futile. (StarTrek Borg)

I tried for 30 years. Did not even get 10%.


ditto. The skills & knowledge these hunter gatherers posess have been handed down from generation to generation for millions of years. This and the fact that "civilization" has taken over all the prime real estate on earth.

Also, civilized humans the world over have degenerated mentally and physically during our 5,000 years of rule so we no longer have what it takes. Makes me sad to think about it.

I still dream about living a pre-civilized lifestyle though and make as many adjustments to my lifestyle as I possibly can. My cup is half full.

Pastured trumps fertility by a long shot.

General Discussion / Re: Questions on Seafood
« on: March 27, 2011, 03:10:02 am »
The further away you get from human population centers the better. For ocean fish this means deep ocean cold water species.

For fresh water fish I will only eat fish from a mountain stream or lake.

Better to be safe than sorry.

They are finding high levels of radiation 18 miles out in the ocean from Japan after the tsunami. Ouch. If your fish glows in the dark, feed it to your girfriend's cat.

I use it to build even better health and live longer. Learn about nutrition and do more exercise.

I help with community gardens (focusing on schools), teaching people to grow nutritious food. My goals are to start a grass based farm operation. Or to facilitate others to do grass based farming and ranching.

It is a spiritual as well as physical endevor. Feels good.

General Discussion / Re: Blue/Green Specks In Raw Grassfed Hamburger
« on: March 27, 2011, 02:16:12 am »
When beef carcuses are graded by government inspectors they run a stamper over the beef cuts using a blue/green dye.

It is a vegetable dye, you can see it on the edge of some retail cuts. When I purchased meat for my restaurant it was how I could verify if the meat was USDA Choice.

If this is grass fed beef it probably does not have a fed inspection stamp. So the specs are something else or the butcher is cheating. It costs more to produce a grass finished beef.

General Discussion / Re: Best livestock for a small pasture
« on: March 05, 2011, 02:21:32 am »
You can get a wealth of information on local internal and external parasites, plus literature on raising animals at your county agricultural extension service.

General Discussion / Re: Best livestock for a small pasture
« on: March 05, 2011, 12:54:18 am »
Don't take my word for it.

If you are going to raise any animal do at least some basic research. Any book or course you take will go into detail about parasite life cycles and prevention methods.

It is a very real problem. If you ignore it, it will be just a matter of time until they move in and become established.

There is a pork certification program where they have the sow give birth under surgically sterile conditions in a special facility. The parasites are there at birth, getting transferred from the mother.


General Discussion / Re: Best livestock for a small pasture
« on: March 01, 2011, 04:42:33 am »
I moved to the country and purchased 40 acres about 20 years ago. Lived off the land for 10 years. Raised rabbits, chickens, ducks, geese, and a 4-h hog project.

The biggest challenge is parasites in the animals. Sheep, goats, cattle, etc have to have their pasture rotated so they don't return to the same spot for about 6 months. This interrupts the life cycle of parasites. Neighbors coming home would find their livestock lying dead in the pasture from parasites. You have to pump them full of poisons to keep them alive if you don't have enough land to make paddoks for rotation. Even the cats & dogs need yearly doses of poisons if they live ouside. Even my rabbits started dying and they were living in wire cages suspended above the floor. I did not disinfect them enough.

Please do some research & don't just rush out & buy some animals & stick them in a pen.

Hot Topics / Re: Is there anything wrong with wine?
« on: February 28, 2011, 11:59:23 pm »
Im up for an experiment :D anyone know how to naturally produce fermented fruit properly?

The white stuff on the fruit skin is yeast. Organic fruit is best as the fruit has not been treated with chemicals to kill everything. Yeast loves grapes. Mash some organic grapes up and you will get fermentation. The longer it ferments the more sugar will convert to alcohol. At a certain point the alcohol content will get too high and the fermentation will stop. (assuming the grapes have enough sugar) Then vinegar bacteria will take over and turn the alcohol into acidic compounds. Our bodies are adapted to all stages, feel free to taste. I use the vinegar in cooking and on salads.

Apples work good also.

Hot Topics / Re: Is there anything wrong with wine?
« on: February 28, 2011, 01:39:53 am »
We evolved the ability to metabolize alcohol back when we were forest dwelling fructarians. It was available in limited quantities and did not harm those who had the genes. It was an evolutionary advantage to gorge ourselves on ripe fruit when it becanme available to store as fat & get us through the lean times.

The danger is that it is addictive. We still have a tendancy to gorge ouselves and there are no lean times. Combine this with the marketing efforts of the alcoholic beverage industry and our unlimited ability to purchase (in the short term) and it's a recipe for alcoholism. There is no medical cure for alcoholism.

It is a progressive disease. Be cautious.

If you are not an alcoholic small amounts of alcoholic beverages can be beneficial, especially ones with bioflavinoids like red wine. It would be even better to consume fermented fruit. :)

You know if you are an alcoholic if you drink when you did not want to; or if you take a drink and can not stop.

General Discussion / Re: Human Symbionts
« on: February 28, 2011, 01:09:23 am »
These parasite-like organisms and bacteria seem like good candidates for symbionts that have co-evolved with humans and may potentially provide benefits to humans that host them:

These did not co-evolve with hominids in the big picture. They are recent introductions since the domestication of plant and animals; and the resulting overcrowing & sedintary lifestyle of civilization. Before that we were nomads who left the waste behind and did not cohabitate with animals. (or parisites) These organisms mutated to live on humans even much more recently than fire and cooking. One of the advantages of cooking is that it destroys them.

Good sanitation continues to be a requirement to survive in civilization. Avoid these organisms, they are lethal.

General Discussion / Re: Best livestock for a small pasture
« on: February 28, 2011, 12:23:36 am »
There is a lot of breeding going on right now to develop animals that are better suited to fending for themselves in natural conditions. Smaller size, able to survive on pasture only, heat & cold resistance, foraging ability, birthing ease, etc.

Usually this means reverting to "heirloom" species that did just fine for thousands of years before agribusiness changed to animals that could survive indoors in factories or in feedlots on grains and waste products.

General Discussion / Re: Best livestock for a small pasture
« on: February 26, 2011, 11:19:17 pm »
I suggest meat breeds of sheep and goats. Goats are browsers so are good for clearing brush. Hogs will root up and eat everything that is or has been alive so they are good for clearing land. Also a chicken tractor is a recent invention good for both meat and eggs. Geese will survive on pasture only. Khacki Campbell ducks lay more eggs than chickens.

Your investment in fence types and water supply will determin what type of animals you can keep. Preditors in the air and on land are always a battle.

General Discussion / Re: grain fed ground beef
« on: February 26, 2011, 01:54:18 am »
Go to the website They have links to grassfed producers in your area and/or stores that sell. I drive a hour once a month and stock up. The Amish types do this but don't advertise. Keep asking around for connections.

General Discussion / Re: Anyone else get a high feeling from raw meat?
« on: February 26, 2011, 01:44:19 am »
Not so much right after eating raw, but it has tripled my strength and endurance since switching long term. I can now do fast aerobics for an hour a day at age 60. After about 20 minutes the body releases a narcotic like substance that reduces pain and increases euphoria. (runner's high) People get adicted to this. They end up doing triathalons. I can tell you from experience it also works with swimming and biking.

General Discussion / Re: How can I do with meat when travelling
« on: February 21, 2011, 04:35:31 am »
Learn how to dry meat at low temperature. It will last for months. Pemmican.

Eat lots of raw fruits and veggies while you travel. Raw eggs in a smoothie will give you the power if you can take a blender.

Eat lots of raw meat before you go & eat lots when you return. This can actually be beneficial to the body. It is what was natural paleo.

General Discussion / Re: High vs. Fermented Meat
« on: February 21, 2011, 04:23:33 am »
If it smells good it is OK If it stinks bury it in the garden.

Dry aged meat is pre digested and beneficial. If it smells good. Your nose knows.

General Discussion / Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« on: February 19, 2011, 10:36:07 am »
These fish parasites are specific to fish. Most fish have them. They require an aquatic environment and fish flesh to survive.

You are not a fish and you do not live in the water. We are mammals. We have our own parasites.

Be cautious eating raw mammal flesh especially species that are scavengers like hogs. Don't eat mammal feces or raw intestines. Or high meat.

You can safely eat the fish. Above all do NOT throw it out. Package it carefully and send it overnight express to me.


General Discussion / Re: How long will beef bone marrow stay fresh?
« on: February 19, 2011, 10:25:39 am »
I have been buying about a 3 months supply of marrow bones at a time and keeping it in the freezer with no degradation. For the past few weeks I have been taking out about 6  pieces of 2" femur bone at a time and leaving it at room temp. After a week out there are no off odors, colors or rancidity. I scoop out some marrow now and then. This is from a grass fed animal. Once again, it is paramount that the meat or bones be on a rack so to have good air circulation. The surface needs to stay dry. Spoilage organisms need moisture to multiply.  The interior is protected by the animals natural cellular antibiotics if not destroyed by cooking.


General Discussion / Re: How to learn about wild foods in your area?
« on: February 13, 2011, 11:49:35 pm »
Field Guide to North American Edible Wild Plants - by Thomas Elias and Peter Dykeman

Field Guide to Edible Wild Plants - by Bradford Angier

Mother Earth News magazine, you can get a CD with all their articles for the last 50 years cheap.

Wild Fermentation, by Sandor Katz

Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers, by Stephen Buhner

Stalking The Wild Asparagus - Euel Gibbons

General Discussion / Re: How to learn about wild foods in your area?
« on: February 13, 2011, 11:22:18 pm »
Go to your municipal library and talk to the research librarian. If they don't have the information you want they will get it for you.

General Discussion / Re: Need Help: Buying on Budget
« on: February 13, 2011, 11:19:02 pm »
Substitute time for money. Plant a garden and fruit trees. Raise rabbits, ducks, chickens. Forage in the wild. I've lived on $5 a week.

I have my butcher grind grass fed heart at $1 per pound into the ground beef. I eat grass-fed liver at $1/lb twice a week. I was able to find a butcher that also does slaughter. He sells scrap to a wholesaler for almost nothing & sometimes has to pay to have it picked up. I negotiate for marrow bones, heart, liver, feet for soup, brains, suet, etc. I plan to contact the area venison processors.

Take up the sports of hunting and fishing. You can get on a list to be called for venison road kill pickup, it's free. Lean how to skin and butcher an animal. Very Paleo.

Not only did our Paleo ancestors have superior nutrition, they also got superior exercise hunting and gathering. Both are mandatory for optimal health.

You will actually save money with lower health care costs and won't need to join a gym.

Getting out of the city helps a lot. Even in the city you can convert a yard to a garden. Or join a community garden.

Barter goods or labor with farmers. They love it. Saves taxes. Many are desperate for help during the growing and harvesting seasons.

Pigeons are called "Squab" and sell at high prices in upscale restaurants.

General Discussion / Re: Slankers Pork
« on: February 13, 2011, 10:58:13 pm »
I have been planning on trying their pork. It looks like the hogs are out in the woods in natural conditions. Trich is only a problem for penned up animals. Freezing for a couple of months will kill any trich that does exist.

Never have eaten raw pork. Anyone have any experience?

Has anyone ever found a no grain or soybean poultry source??

With a little planning raw paleo food can be faster than fast food. And mush less expensive.

I love a juicy seared raw beef burger with lettuce & tomato, carrot sticks, and a fruit smoothie. Yum.

We can all have progress but never perfection.

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