https://academic.oup.com/jas/article-abstract/90/8/2540/4702338?redirectedFrom=fulltext

These refutes the hypothesis that a carnivore gut is sterile or is devoided of bacteria. Collagen, branched amino-acids, skin and bones are fermented in the gut and produce short chain fatty acids.

As TD stated, any government intervention is bad.
Let vegans do what they want and let raw foodist like ours the same. Let keep this on the long run and see who ends up winning this battle. For that to happen we need freedom even to destroy ourselves.

Surfsteve,
How is it possible to drink HCl? Won't that burn your throat? How much HCl in mg do you take?

Holy fuck! Two days of fruit and I fucked up my teeth. Just 200g of papaya and 1 mango for each day. What's happening? I throat was sore all day long. I couldn't eat the next day.


First picture: lower teeth, enamel is gone, teeth are yellow are sensitive.

Second picture: I have my enamel intact but my teeth turned yellow.

This helped me go to the bathroom just a little bit. Stools are still sticky and have a lot of connective tissue. I'm adding 650mg HCl for 2 weeks.

Radish and leeks? I switched to ZC because of vegetables. Are you sure is safe to eat that types of fiber on ZC? I come from a severe case of fiber obstruction and posterior IBS. I haven't tried any vegetable since then, I'm scared of getting obstructed again.
Sure, I can try betaine HCl but I'm skeptic about digestive enzymes. If there is a natural way to obtain all that stuff I will do. I really need a juicer. I will try HCl 500mg for 14 days and keep you posted.
Regarding fruit. I just go for the easiest to digest and high in soluble fiber and water. In the past after a bite of carbs I'll get like crazy and seek for more. But, at this time, I see fruit as medicine or a supplement. If I think to eat just one piece I'll eat just one, they don't attract me. Eating raw has bring my instinct back and I easily recognize when I'm hungry or not. I was thinking about 1 or 2 servings per week.

Right, I use an electric oven to warm my food.
I have heard that heating meat on the sun is a very taste way if you want to it warm food. But here there is not much sun to test this.
Surfsteve, thats correct. I don't know what is the minimum temperature when bacteria starts dying off, may be one of the reasons. The other reason could be that at 99 or so the lactic acid enzymes of meat gets boosted.
You both prefer warmed food or cool food? I can eat organs or lean meat cool but not fat. Fat needs to be warm for me, if not I don't have the feeling of satiation.

Thymus gets atrophied in cattle after 1.5 years. That's probably why they don't sell much. I can't get it.
Grey-Cup, how long are you in carnivore? Do you experience fatigue or cold when taking showers?

We don't know. Rancidity in the context of a rendered fat may be different from a raw fat. At the end, the fats are oxidized in our body, aren't they? I prefer to trust anthropology and animal behavior. If the fat doesn't taste good to me, I don't eat it.

I think we were not scavengers but carcass stealers. We have watched and analyzed carnivores since evolution. We have stealen his teeth to make knifes and tools. A knife is one of the most important things for a human. A human without tools is not a human. All this is just theory and arbitrary, but that is my imagination.
I think we attacked as mass to steal carcass from predators and ate it kind of ferment it. And, think about the mega fauna. Do you think a tribe could eat an entire mammut still fresh? It clearly was fermented, dried or prepared in different ways.
Our ancestors are still humans, they had intelligence and knowledge. They probably did a lot of things with food we don't know or think of.
Trying to theorize what they are or did is impossible, actually.

Surfsteve:
I would recommend you use potassium citrate instead of chloride because citrate is the natural company of potassium.
There is a ketogenic group on Facebook (not raw) that claims that salt is unnecessary if your potassium intake is high. (8 grams as HG had). The group has a lot of members and all of them are doing well on a high protein high fat ketogenic diet without adding salt unless they are fasting.
The group has a lot of studies focusing just on potassium and his interaction with sodium. Also, they talk about the dangers of chloride in salt.
The group name is: Optimal Ketogenic Living. If you go there, you can make your own research.

I'm pretty sure of your first statement. But, the second one, it's probably biased. How do you support that idea? What is the mechanism in eating ruminants that can make you exclude seafood?

@van: Ok, I'll follow your suggestions. But, one thing, I don't really feel hungry until I do my first bite of meat. How do I know if I'm really hungry or it is just psicological?

Tamarind is a legume and is very sweet and laxative when ripe. Maybe you ate unripe tamarind.

I don't recommend eating nor drinking anything.
Exercise is a sympathetic physiological state and digestion is parasympathetic. You are not going to digest anything and probably stress the body more. What I would recommend is a good postworkout meal and then a good nap.