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General Discussion / Re: Trouble in Paradise - leg cramps
« on: November 28, 2009, 11:23:30 pm »
My partner and I also had leg cramps when we started the diet. My wife grabbed some Mg suppliments for it but I didnt take them, both of our leg cramps went away after a little while, I think it just has something to do with something your body eventually adjusts to.. kind of like how your body will adapt to high/low salt.

They were usually in the morning, where when you wake up and do your yawn/stretch thing, when we would extend our legs down it was like *yaaaawwn---AAAHH!!! MY CALVES!!!" and then it would go away haha.

General Discussion / Re: question regarding fat,paleo.
« on: November 24, 2009, 03:06:37 am »
haha. There is no way that one bison is going to last 20 people a month.. One bison would last 20 people mabye a week I would say. but its still not A LOT of fat.

General Discussion / Re: Raw Meat "Wife Swap"
« on: November 23, 2009, 02:08:49 am »
haha, he had to be fucking with her.. there is NO WAY that you would offer somebody who is OPPOSED to a raw diet HIGH MEAT!! (he says 'we're going to take the high meat, and we're going to go outside")


Too bad they didn't look very healthy.

General Discussion / Re: Benefits of Parasites
« on: November 16, 2009, 08:43:09 pm »
It means that eating shitty food like cakes and pies will upset your parasites and they will turn on you.

General Discussion / Parasite in my fish flesh
« on: November 14, 2009, 05:57:30 am »
I have a piece of fish here (pacific snapper) that has an obvious worm like parasite curled up in its flesh.
I think that its ok to just eat around it and ive already had some but mabye this worm will eat its way through my stomach and crawl through my spine sucking my vital spine-juice all the way up to my brain where it makes a nest and a family of little worms will eat my brains slowly over the course of a few weeks.. OH GOD!!! TELL ME IM GOING TO SURVIVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: poultry is heated
« on: November 11, 2009, 09:04:09 pm »
This last weekend I purchased two chickens from a natural raised farm I buy a lot of my meat from. I just took them out to a lake in the woods and my wife and I just cut off their heads, bled them into a mason jar, then skinned them, gutted and had some of the freshest tastiest liver and heart we have ever eaten (even if it is tiny haha).

I would recomend doing something like this.. I didnt find it half as traumatising as I thought it was going to be, and it might have taken 20mins to do both..

We took the carcass home and just cut the meat off the body as we wanted it (and omg it was the best chicken we ever had, diced up the breast and mixed it in with an egg yolk and a little spice).

When we were done we threw the feet and bones into a broth and made one tasty broth.

General Discussion / Re: meat dehydrating
« on: October 28, 2009, 07:39:44 pm »
I just cut my meat into strips and sew it onto some jute string, then i tie it to the roof and let it hang a week.. no electricity necessary

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / fermenting fruit?
« on: October 22, 2009, 10:05:49 am »
Is it possible to ferment fruit by crushing it up and putting it in a jar and leaving it to rot for a few weeks? I imagine this would make paleo alcohol? haha

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Eating Roadkill...
« on: October 08, 2009, 01:09:48 am »
Herbivores I dont have much of an issue with since i eat them all the time. Im more wondering about eating omnivorous and carnivorous animals like raccoons.. Can you 'eat' rabies? haha  or trichinosis in wild animals (im not scared to eat pork raw anymore haha)

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Eating Roadkill...
« on: October 07, 2009, 07:59:59 am »
I was wondering if anybody here eats roadkill and if you eat it raw?
I know that there should be no 'super scary parasites' in meat you purchase but what about eating a fresh (or not so fresh) roadkilled racoon or bear?

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Pemmican
« on: October 07, 2009, 06:25:41 am »
I am going to be making some pemmican for shits and giggles.. I was wondering if there was a reason you couldnt grind the meat and spread it on something mesh-y to dry out?  I would imagine that it would be easier to powder this way but thought I would ask first.

General Discussion / Re: mTOR and protein threshold
« on: September 23, 2009, 09:11:23 am »
I do not believe that you need LOTS of fat or you will die. The grassfed bison that I get do not have very much fat on them compared to the meat on them. Are you saying that if grassfed bison was the only available meat around that you and the people who helped you kill the bison that you are sharing the whole thing with (so you are only getting a portion of the scarce fat), that you are all going to die horribly because nature did not provide for you?

General Discussion / Re: Tell me about Suet
« on: September 23, 2009, 08:55:57 am »

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Experiment
« on: September 19, 2009, 09:57:31 am »
I never believed that I had a problem with porridge untill I stopped eating it for a while, then went back to it with an honest approach to how i felt... I miss you tasty sugary hot breakfast!!! haha

edit: I guess my point was that I think that everyone is the same.. Different tolerances are just that, tolerances. I can tolerate breathing in drywall dust better than my wife.. so ill just breath in a little.. haha

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Experiment
« on: September 19, 2009, 03:03:21 am »
My wife and I did a little experiment this last week.
After doing a 'hardcore' meat-only diet for over four months we were getting some candy cravings. Its the end of summer now and I said 'screw it, just go and get an ice-cream if you want one that bad.. you only live once' So we went out and treated ourselves to an ice-cream.. No big deal..

Sugar is a terrible drug. One taste and its all you can think about. So over the next few days we had mabye 4 scoops of ice-cream and some (quality) chocolate.
(a) Your mouth feels like crap
(b) Your stomach feels like crap
(c) Your mood changes (less calm)
(d) I got my 'itch' back (not bad, but i notice because i havent had it in months)
(e) Your heart feels like crap
(f) You feel dirty, I bathe like every few weeks, after eating crap i felt so grody from i guess my body sweating out all that poison
(g) a few other small things i cant remember.

Ok, so my family is having turkey dinner and i go 'shit, im trashing myself why not have turkey dinner'
So i grab myself a plate of cooked turkey, a potato, cranberry sauce and whatever else was there (skipped the beans and veggies)
(a) I put this cooked turkey in my mouth and just start laughing.. 'Oh my god, i cant believe people actually EAT this stuff!' haha. cranberry sauce and gravy? you're god damn right you need that stuff just to be able to swallow that DRY DRY DRY meat.
(b) You get so full and your stomach bloats and I go 'ah yes, i remember this sensation.. its the sensation of being full after a meal... I do not like this sensation.
(c) A few hours later im not feeling all that great and a migrane develops.. I used to get migranes a lot and havent had one in such a long time. I never knew really what they were from, i always figured overheating or breathing in smoke/chemical smells but now i wonder if they were also food related.
(d) It just sits in your stomach doing nothing.. I wake up at like 4am and throw it up.

Final experiment we decide to eat what 6 months ago we would have called a 'Healthy Meal'. I cook up some quinoa and some of my fresh picked garden tomatoes, zucchini, some other stuff out of my garden that i cant remmeber and a cob of local corn. I cook this up and have it for dinner.
(a) your stomach bloats
(b) It sat in our stomach for what seemed like close to 12 hours.
(c) It messes up your internal sausages and makes you constipated
(d) You crap some of it out undigested
(e) Your shit stinks
(f) You fart and burp
(g) You just plain do not feel as good as you do when eating a meat diet. Id say we felt only 65% as good as we usually do just eating meat.

This is what both my wife and I experienced, the same symptoms from eating. She has thyroid/adrenal problems and I was perfectly healthy with no problems when we started a carnivorous diet.

We're pretty much done with anything that isnt meat after these experiments.  We feel that anything that isnt meat truly is 'starvation food' because we sure as shit arent eating it again unless we're starving haha.

The only time my heart feels like shit is if i eat sugar.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Burning Protein/Flushing Amino
« on: September 19, 2009, 02:41:49 am »
I figured that you have to piss after eating a lot of meat beause its what, 80% water or something like that?

Id say my wife and i eat about 2-4 pounds of leanish meat a day (each) and then mabye a lamb sausage or two. We dont count anything, just eat what we want. We go by a 'how do you feel' approach. If im hungry ill eat whatever I have. Ill go weeks on lean cuts then feel like i want something fattier so ill get some lamb for that week. when im not feeling like eating lamb ill get whatever other animal i feel like eating.. its been working pretty great so far.. like losing the fear of dying from parasites ive lost the fear of dying from protein poisoning haha.

General Discussion / Re: Testicles
« on: September 13, 2009, 04:36:25 am »
I get them fresh when i want some, Since nobody else wants them i can get them whenever i want.  They're like scallops to me except the skin covering the testicle is VERY tough.. Use a sharp knife and cut them into smaller pieces and i usually just bolt them down. I havnet noticed my genitles swelling to mammoth proportions though so don't get your hopes up.. haha

I found just eating what i felt like (on a carnivorous diet) was much healthier and easier to do compared to trying to measure out ratios of food. You are not a robot and your body will want different things every day. There is no such thing as doing the diet 'right', where when you hit the magic numbers you will turn into a superman. Get in touch with your intuition and instinct instead of the scales.

I use mason jars and bison heart. Chunk up the heart and fill the jar half full. I leave mine on the bench and air it out once a day (although i forget to some days). If you're worried about fly eggs (which i havent had a problem with yet) then put some wax paper or something elastic banded around the lid. It only takes a few days and its starting to get pretty high. I like this way because i (a) dont have a fridge (b) it only takes a few days instead of a month.

For me I was eating a raw meat diet that i would also eat candy and cake and shit like that on the weekends. Then my wife and I had what we refer to as "Choc-Mint Weekend" where we stayed home and pigged out on a bunch of bullshit and felt absolutely horrible.  That night we came to the decision that above all else, we really enjoy having a good time and if you're not feeling absolutely 100% awesome, then you cant be having a good time. Thats when we cut the last (major) addiction and went 100% carnivore diet and havent looked back.

We still check out the junkfood in the weekend fliers but its more so we can eat it in our dreams, we both still have no real desire to eat it again.. Its the memories we love, the reality of it is more  -v

I suppose i didnt answer the question here.. I added raw meat into my diet at the start of the year but still ate veggies and fruit (although i cut waaaaaaaay back on my sugar intake, id go through over half a pound of honey in a week... just honey, not including the pounds of dried fruit and stuff i was eating.. I mean our bodies run on sugar, right!! its healthy sugar!!) then we cut veggies out because it just started making sense that they werent food (now i cant even bring myself to eat stuff from my garden i started this year, and i WANT to eat it.. i just cant fight my NO instinct i get now haha)

So i cut veggies out, ate candy instead, then said 'you're a retard, what are you doing to yourself, cut the shit' and havent looked back since the 'withdrawl' period that lasted mabye a week or so, but i guess when you understand that its just an addiction and analize it, you can deal with it a lot better, i personally didnt find it very hard at all to do once i made a firm decision to take my real health first.

General Discussion / Re: 'Cooked Meat Paleo' to 'Raw Meat Paleo'
« on: August 31, 2009, 06:10:52 am »
Miles, for the love of god, do NOT microwave your meat! holy smokes, if you're doing this diet for health then why would you go and zap all the 'good shit' out of your meat?
I think that if you're eating a healthy (at least mostly) carnivorous diet stuff like tapeworms probobly wouldnt do too well in your intestines since there wouldnt be much for them to eat?
Fresh is best, i would rather let my meat sit in the fridge for four weeks and eat it high than freeze it..

this is all just gut instinct, take it for what its worth.

I was an insane sugar eater before i started this diet.. I had a skin itch so bad that i would have gladly taken a knife to peel the skin off of my back.. thats when my wife said enough is enough and its not "Winter Itch" which i swore up and down it was. We started the candida diet and did that for three months..  Holy shit it wrecked us.. Felt like a truck had hit us, backed up, then ran over us again.. Waking up and throwing up gobs of green crap and feeling terrible..  From there we knew that the candida diet wasnt something that was healthy and began a half assed rawish paleo diet.  That still wasnt working as good as we wanted so we said enough is enough and took the meat diet seriously and would never look back..

We're skeptical on wether or not candida actually exists or if its more of a word for a list of symptoms and we just shocked the shit out of or bodys changing our diet so drasticly so quickly.  We feel great now that we're not half-assing things. Why spend all week taking care of yourself and then ruin it on the weekend 'treating yourself'. you dont get anywhere doing that.

I am also anti-dairy, I think you love gobs of butter because gobs of butter are delicious. And i also call BS on the whole needing so much fat that you need a 'source of fat'. I just eat the fat thats attached to my meat. I am active and do not have problems with energy levels. If you need fat you will know it, and i find that after eating a little piece of lamb neck which is pretty fatty im wobell past my STOP. You will know the stop because you will have it in your mouth but would rather spit it out than swallow. I doubt you will get something like that with butter, probably more of a 'oh my god ive eaten so much butter i feel sick'.

I used to be paranoid about eating enough fat because of the terror of protien poisoned death looming over my head. But after a while on the diet even more of your fear gets eased. I have fed my cat and dog on nothing but heart and ground beef for about two years now, they have never had a source of fat or anything like that, mabye the bits of fat i dont want when ive hit my stop from my meals. They're not dead yet but ill be sure to let you guys know if either of us die from not eating butter or back-fat daily.. haha..

General Discussion / Re: To Chew or not to Chew
« on: July 18, 2009, 01:29:28 am »
Holy smokes.. heres how you do it..

1) cut chunk of meat
2) mash in teeth until it feels like you can swallow it
3) swallow

Ive also started trying out eating my chicken bones and so far ive not noticed any undigested bones in my stool.
Ill see bits of left-over fat but i assume that its like a waste material, kind of like when you render fat and the liquid comes out but there is the crackle left.

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