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Off Topic / Re: I sliced into my own finger
« on: June 25, 2011, 11:46:48 pm »
I can vouch for the cayenne pepper on cuts thing. It works REALLY well (thank you GS.).  I admit that i was skeptical at first, i mean, i know how much that stuff will burn your mouth, so i couldnt imagine how it would feel in a wound, but one day I dropped a 20litre glass jug and i reacted and tried to catch it so it smashed over my right hand and I got a pretty nasty slice going from the base of my right ringfinger up and around to the knuckle part.

I should have went to the hospital but I thought 'No way man! thats not paleo! what would the raw-forums think!' so i thought now was as good a time as any to pop some cayenne powder in there since it was still bleeding 15 minutes later when i finally got home.

I would say it was probably as scary as the first time i ate some raw meat (SCARY!!) but i dumped a bunch in anyway and waited for the searing pain to start....  but it doesnt, it pretty much soaks up the blood, stops the bleeding and starts to harden and form a sort of artificial scab.

It would weep every so often so id just add a little more cayenne every day or so and it healed really well.
I wont make any bold claims like it regrew my severed arm in 4 hours, but it worked so much better than bandages and whatever else people usually put on their wounds.

It took me about 8 months to get 90% of the mobility back into my finger.. it still doesnt bend back as far as my other ones but i think i damaged the tendon or something. But yeah, i always use cayenne in my cuts now, its totally awesome and I would recommend it to anyone (it doesnt hurt at all, you dont feel anything)

General Discussion / Re: Too Much Organ Meat?
« on: June 24, 2011, 11:02:57 pm »
Well my wife and I eat organs and suet. Around 4 pounds of liver a week(each) id say.. she probably eats a bit more than i do, but we're not turning orange yet after months.  When you've had enough liver, you dont want it anymore (which isnt much help if you aren't really keen on it in the first place, but hey..)  We will eat just liver for 2-3 days while its fresh and best, then pick up our next liver the next week, so we pack back a whole bunch, then move onto our kidneys and hearts etc. and if we eat all our organs before they send in the next cow, THEN we pick up some muscle meats.

My wife eats lots of suet and she does fine on it, I personally dont find i digest suet as well, but it might be because i eat all kinds of omnivorous stuff on top of my meat(while she's carnivore).

I dont think you have to worry about 'Overdosing' on anything that you're picking up from the butchers. I would think that you will just not want to eat it anymore,  long before you develop leprosy.

Although my wife had a similar experience eating a big whack of moose brain, to when she eats too much adrenal. So we figure she must have eaten the hormone glands in the brain and they sometimes make you feel like you're tripping balls and you dont know if you're going to throw up or shit yourself.

Hot Topics / Re: Your fav way to gently heat meat?
« on: June 15, 2011, 10:17:24 pm »
just pop it in a warm pan.. if its sizzling then its too hot. The more care and time you take with it, the more raw it will be, since if you rush it, its going to cook and be cool on the inside still, but if you take your time flipping it, then you can warm it up and keep it like 95% raw.

There is no prizes for eating cold meat. Actually im pretty sure its a 'thing' where they say that drinking cold liquids is not good for you, so i dont see why eating cold foods would be good.

Cold meat from the fridge isnt paleo!!(haha)  actually, is living in freezing temps paleo? i dont know.

haha, so glad i was born a man, so that im only expected to work... and not have 12 children, and work... haha.

When you live a hard life, your body grows hard.  But there is a reason that people are not still living in tents and caves (well i suppose i live in a tent, but whatever) and thats because its not comfortable.  You get wet and cold and hungry and sore, cut up and bruised.. and thats great fun for a weekend camping trip, but after YEARS of doing it, its just life, and yes, you get used to it... but that warm (reliable) meal and soft bed start looking pretty damn nice when bugs are driving you crazy and mother nature isnt stuffing food down your throat.

When you dont have to slug it out in the field, you have more time to appreciate your life and enjoy art and music and conversation.. I guess women get to do that while they're sitting around beading and letting their el nino's suck on them.. but mabye they want a little more in their lives? mabye they would like to have the same kind of opportunity as men?

I dont even know how to say what im trying to say. I guess im just jaw-dropped that you honestly think a woman's purpose is to breed and cook and do the things that men think women should do.  I think we should move the human race FORWARD, but i guess going forwards isnt 'paleo'... haha.

I dont know man, im pretty sure if my dog had the cash, he would be down at the supermarket right now buying chocolate chip cookies and pork rinds.

« on: May 04, 2011, 06:54:15 am »
Paleophil.. on the internet, you too can be anyone! haha

But no, my wife and I have never kept what we do a 'secret'.
I told my family straight up from day one what we were doing, (one) because its interesting, and (two) (and probably the real reason) was so that if we started to die horribly, at least somebody knew what we were doing. Since we 'look great' and stuff they know its obviously not detrimental (except for parasites, which we have had a few times) But after the initial excitement of the diet, i have learned to not talk food with other people (unless they obviously want to).  
When you suggest that somebodys current diet is not the 'best', then you're pretty much saying they are !WRONG! and thats when it all goes downhill.
I always make sure to say 'hey, this is just whats working for me, its not the ONLY diet, since people are obviously thriving on all kinds of diets, if yours is working for you then it sounds like you're doing pretty good."  Whereas before id try give them the 'facts' about why they are !WRONG!, nobody wants to listen to that person.

First day at our new job, my wife and I whip out our 'pirate lunchboxes' (just raw meat and some spice and codliver oil) and have lunch with everybody. After the few usual questions we're back to doing what we were before. Its no big deal to them, i guess because its no big deal to us, we're just having lunch.

Everyone i get my meat from knows as well, since everyone always ask(ed) 'how do you cook it?' and I just say 'I dont'.  And they're not about to argue with their best customer.. haha.

I think one of my butchers said a few weeks ago that they were skeptical at first, but almost 3 years later we're still going strong and she said 'yeah i dont think its weird anymore, i guess i just got used to it', since im always in there telling them the meat inspector is a bitch because she wont let me have the brains, and how to leave the adrenal glands in the fat for me when they take it out.. haha.

Another reason we're just up front is because people always offer you food/drinks, and when you just always shoot them down with no explanation they might think you're being a dick. Instead they say 'Id offer you a sangwitch, but you would probably prefer some like... raw sausage or something! haha!'.

I dont know, mabye we just have a good attitude.. like if you're insecure about your diet people can tell? i dont know.

Or mabye its just because my wife and I did this together, whereas most people seem to be doing it solo and their partner still eats whatever. So when you have two people doing it it helps make you more sure, and secure in/of what you're doing?

« on: May 03, 2011, 07:01:30 am »
Is it common for raw meat eaters to keep their diet a secret?

« on: May 02, 2011, 07:22:11 pm »
Going on TV?, just isn't paleo....


Raw potato juice will stop the secretion of stomach acid, i believe.

General Discussion / Re: Bone marrow vs suet?
« on: April 26, 2011, 07:33:29 pm »
You're probably paying for the 'work' that went into getting it out of the bone.

I think they're apples and oranges.  Is liver or kidneys better for you?

I thought you said, Tyler that you tried to use marrow as your fat source and had problems because of the monopolysaturates or whatever they are?

I just think you would have a much easier time getting loads of suet, over marrow (depends on how much fat you're eating a day)

I would eat them both, which doesn't help you since you seem to have to choose one over the other? or can you get suet one week, marrow bones the next? 

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Zero Carb and Menstruation
« on: April 25, 2011, 12:39:00 am »
Well a side effect of eating zero carb seems to be a low body fat percentage (and muscle, since most people seem to need carbs to bulk up too), so im just wondering what the deal is. If I was to say to somebody "Hey, I got this great diet! It will make you thin and possibly infertile!, but your energy will be through the roof! (haha, sounds like durianrider)", im not sure they'd be convinced.

But anyway.. My wife got her curse back(like she deserves) two days ago. Her diet didnt change but we had a cold so she was sitting down more for a few days. But she blames it from being around lots of pregnant rats all day (or working with other women) haha.

General Discussion / Re: Liver
« on: April 23, 2011, 09:13:30 pm »
I eat a lot of liver since nobody wants it and its cheap.  I'll have about 5+lbs a week for a few weeks, then they won't send an animal in so i'll have a week off, then be eating it again.

You pretty much know when you're done eating liver.  Its great when you first start eating it, but when you put a piece in your mouth and you just kinda 'blah' it off your tongue, not interested anymore... you've had enough liver.. haha.

I eat it pretty regularly and have not turned yellow yet. But my wife is sensitive to carbs and is on the fence about eating large amounts of liver in one sitting.

General Discussion / Re: Parasites: Those who Inhabit us
« on: April 22, 2011, 08:21:10 am »

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: The BEST work-out!!!
« on: April 18, 2011, 08:18:00 pm »

IMO competitive sport is childish unless ur gettin paid

haha holy shit Proteus, have you been taking posting tips from Achilezies?
Gold star for that gem... haha.

You know you can do anything competitively?  from darts to fighting to lawn bowls to hockey?
It sounds like an excuse as to why you dont try as hard as you can.. Just keep telling yourself its 'childish'
Taking shit too seriously at the cost of your lifes happiness isnt good; but working hard to keep yourself stronger/more skilled than the other people around you is a good motivator of good health.

Probably why the people here who care about 'childish competition' are trying to eat well and take care of themselves, while you on the other hand drink some mutant cocktail of processed powders as food, even though you know its 'wrong'. haha.

General Discussion / Re: Wild pig hunt
« on: April 18, 2011, 07:57:20 pm »
With wild animals I found it easiest to see the whole 'you are what you eat' thing.  I noticed that eating rabbits from one area that had access to certain plants tasted different than ones from another area, and time of year the available food changes along with the taste.

Thats one place where that whole 'dont eat (whatever) at (certain time of year) or it will TASTE BAD!', because in winter they're eating a lot of cedar bark and it does chance the flavor of the meat. (which if you're used to something tasting different isnt going to be a big deal to you.. just to people who have a problem with 'THIS DOESNT TASTE LIKE BLAND BEEF!! ITS TERRIBLE!!'.

I would go and do my firearm course and get all that out of the way... The only problem with it is that (unless you already have your gun and stuff) its going to cost you a decent chunk of change; so if you're only doing it for the meat then its going to take you a few pigs before you have shot enough meat to negate the cost of everything... But once thats all done you can get 50lbs of meat (or however much you're going to get off a boar) for $1.50 and a little work... and you wont have a butcher saying to you "Sorry sir, but we cannot sell you brains/adrenals/whatever" which is really nice.

Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« on: April 18, 2011, 07:43:15 pm »
Im doing something right now GS.... and its not laughing.....  -d

« on: April 18, 2011, 01:19:53 am »
I dont know where to put this and i cant embed it but its a dumb interview anyway but

Haha, did I just hear Doctor Oz. say that if he could eat anything in the world, it would be grass fed wild meat?


Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Zero Carb and Menstruation
« on: April 18, 2011, 12:23:29 am »
Yeah, but we're talking about zero carb here. A plain carnivorous diet where you are only eating meat fat and organs. Its not like my wife is choosing her weight. She is just eating lots of fat, organs and meat.

Whats the deal then if low body fat is not as advantageous as the universally agreed upon paleo fact of 20% body fat, then does that mean a zero carb diet is not as desirable as one that includes foods that will 'fatten you up a bit'?

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Zero Carb and Menstruation
« on: April 16, 2011, 04:27:49 am »
Im thinking that it might be a body fat thing. I would say she has low body fat around 15-16%. She does yoga every day, but an hour or two of yoga i dont think is the kind of excercise thats going to cause amenorrhea.

Although she feels a pretty strong correlation with zero carb (only carbs come from liver, if that matters) and not menstruating.

Now i guess the question is, 'just because you're not menstruating, does it mean that you're not ovulating too?'... well we're not about to find out if she is.. haha.

« on: April 15, 2011, 10:06:34 am »
no sabertooth. I am probably more poor, and more of a bum than you are. I am not judging you. I am telling you how the world see's you, and how the world will react to somebody of your social status, or whatever you want to call it.  It sucks, its not fair, but its reality.

WHY would somebody want to listen to you? 
My mom watches that stuff.. WHY would she want to listen to what you have to say, and take you serious? what have you done that would make a stranger respect the words that you have to say?

Its fun to imagine and fantasize, but when you're making decisions like this you have to make them from a mind that's grounded in reality.

You dont think its strange that after three pages.. YOU are the only person who thinks that this is a good idea?

« on: April 15, 2011, 09:22:40 am »
Sabertooth, If just on the forums here you could be seen as white trash, in trouble with the cops with a bunch of barefoot kids, cant keep a job, browbeats his wife etc...

nobody cares about your book, or your ideas for shows.

you will be made a fool of, and its not just going to affect your life, its going to affect the lives of your family members too.

even if you change the world.. the world is how it is right now, and right now its going to frown on you for feeding your kids raw meat and its not fair that your family is going to have to deal with that.

You're not getting a book deal.

I think it says it all when you're obviously refusing to listen to your WIFE. You truly do not treat her as an equal.

I think you're thinking that 'any publicity is good publicity'.. but that's not true when you're a nobody.

« on: April 14, 2011, 10:22:23 pm »
Sabretooth, are you joking when you say all that stuff about your wife? Keeping her pregnant so that she doesnt have the choice to leave you for a man with more testosterone..? what the fucks?

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Zero Carb and Menstruation
« on: April 14, 2011, 10:07:47 pm »
haha, thanks for the 'facts' guys. I was more interested in the anecdotal evidence from other women who are eating this way.
Klowcarb eats... low carb (never off plan!) but i think she takes birth control? so im not sure how her menstruation  is affected.
Susan i think is another one who eats instincto? but i think i heard her mention somewhere that she believes menstruation(and menopause) to be diseases rather than something natural.

My wifes periods were a bit weird before(though still 'regular'), but a lot of stuff happened around the time she went carnivorous, so we're just assuming that diet has something to do with it, just wanted to hear some other womens experiences.

One thing she noticed was she used to be REALLY heavy, and one of the first things she did years ago was cut grains and noticed a HUGE improvement during her periods.  Way less heavy flow and her pain was no where near as bad, since before she was pretty much in bed for 5 days.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Zero Carb and Menstruation
« on: April 14, 2011, 01:06:06 pm »
I have heard women mention that eating a zero carb diet stops their menstruation. My wife has noticed the same thing since starting zero carb a few years ago. Have any other zero carb women noticed anything similar?
And do you think it is still possible to get a yeast infection while being zero carb?
She noticed that she only ever got her period if she 'ate something weird' like we had to eat oats for a few weeks and she got her period about a week later after having not had it for about 6 months. Then again after eating more fruit than usual about 6 months later again.
Mabye its just a coincidence and she just has a weird bi-annual cycle or something.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: The BEST work-out!!!
« on: April 14, 2011, 04:36:36 am »
Nah B.Money, that dude just has a lot of 'functional strength'.

I think its referring to guys who only work aesthetic muscles and don't ever work on the smaller muscles that contribute to 'real world' applications.

And proteus you tore your leg because you had tight hamstrings from working them so much.

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