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Very sorry indeed that you are vomiting,  more usually a loose bowel results from Raw Chicken, and can last for some time.   Raw Chicken is difficult to manage, and not recommended for Newbies early on.   We do seem to develop a natural level of immunity through exposure to dirt and germs, but it may prove a long road.   Looking at the Raw Chicken salad in our Forum ‘3 meals: Sushi, Cod and Chicken’  should renew your enthusiasm for the Chicken!   By all means proceed at your own pace, because it is easy to become discouraged by repeated disappointments.

I ate Raw Chicken long before 1991 and Raw Meat and Raw Fish since 1978, so such food has made be ‘bomb proof’ to an extent.    We are never guaranteed a safe passage, however, and more extreme eating, such as I am trying now, has even more hazards – such is life!

Get the best available Raw Chicken, confine eating to the breasts, and try a little first to see how it settles down.
You can always put the remainder in the refrigerator to wait and see if this is the right moment to indulge to a greater extent.   Follow advice from more experienced members, particularly Tyler and Rawzi and let me know how you get on.   The Forum is here to support all its members, so make use of it, we are a friendly bunch.

Such a pity to deny yourself a real treat like Raw Chicken and Raw Eggs because of all the scaremongering.    I have eaten lots of supermarket (poor quality??) Raw Chicken and found it delicious (perhaps I am a poor judge??) but without incident or discomfort.   Hope you continue to enjoy it - at your own pace!

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So what happens when these parasites eat all the bad shit inside you? If you are very sick, will they grow tremendously in size? And then when there is no bad tissue left, and you are on a raw diet which keeps you from producing bad tissue, do they start eating good tissue? Do they die? Just curious.

Spearman, let us know how your experiment goes!

My understanding is the janitorial tapeworms will be passed when there is no more decaying matter, but given our societal toxicity, I think you'd have to live pretty much in the jungle to ever reach that point. The digestive symbionts are likely to stay on a permanent basis if there is not over toxicity and the diet is raw and healthy. I think in the experiments AV mentions, the people infused with the worms lost them after 5 months more than likely because of continuing to eat garbage cooked food which eventually overwhelmed the whipworm.

I'll write a report on the trichinosis but I want to wait until I feel the symbiotic response. No point beginning a journal only to fail to have them bind with me.

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Wondering if you produced your report and how you got on since February 12, 2010, 11:43:34 PM, as this was a long time ago.    Many others interested in outcome of your experiment with raw pig's intestines, and some may want to copy this, if beneficial.   Any others ever tried this?

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I've gone past rare and into the bleu zone with the pork so I've got the hog on a leash right now, not quite by the horns. It is very delicious. I'm just waiting until I can get some good quality pork. Slanker's has some that is supposedly "wild caught," which I assume means they just keep them on their farmland and don't feed them.  I at least would get something that is organic and well raised if I don't get the Slanker's. This has kind of slipped my to-do list, but thanks for reminding me, I will get it done. I can't bring myself to do it with the same supermarket stuff I feed my dogs, though I give it to them raw and they don't have worms crawling out of their ears yet. Wait,  shit, maybe they do. One of them developed hematomas on his ear flaps which could be caused by parasites.  Now I'm a bit worried.
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Just wondering how you are getting on Edmon, and whether you have managed to make a 'pig of yourself' yet?
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Edmon, just wondered about the 'pigs progress'  and how you are getting on generally?   Have you tried raw chicken?
Frank Bond

Current scare throughout UK is with Camphylobactor in Chicken, and most shops are implicated in supplying this with excess of these bacteria.   I must have encountered it in my considerable munching of Raw Chicken, but it was always delicious.   I had one encounter with Yersini E Coli from raw chicken in 1991 which led to grossly loose bowels for more than a fortnight.    This went away and I have never had any repeat of anything so severe.     I hope there is no problem for us, because I like it, and want to continue enjoying it.   Perhaps Tyler (who does not like Chicken but always offers good advice) can help?

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Lots of maggot culture information if you google raising maggots bait. For example, this one: http://www.crappie.com/crappie/panfish-bream-brim/65273-raising-maggots-w-little-smell-no-mess.html. I never tried this myself.


can't you just like cut a few holes in some raw meat, hang it, and let the flies swarm?
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can't you just like cut a few holes in some raw meat, hang it, and let the flies swarm?

Yes, of course you can just hang the meat and let the flies swarm, as long as the meat doesn't dry out first. The advantage of some other set-ups is that you can let the maggots reach a full, plump size and drop off the meat into the container. Having them drop into an absorbent medium gets rid of their smelly excrement. You can also just leave the meat on the counter and let the maggots wiggle off when they're big, but then you have the source of their smell, too.
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Techy, you seem a born experimenter, and certainly one of our more adventurous Members.   Try hanging a piece of meat or fish and see what attention it gets from flies, encouraging them if you can, and allow it to develop.   Keep it moist though, and you may need to cover it as maggots emerge to keep it from drying.   It should be fairly warm to help the maggots mobility.   They are very agile, and keeping them where you want them is a challenge.   Good luck and hope you enjoy results!

All right I will admit I roll naked in the snow in my back garden.   I am glad you do not know my address or I might find I had an audience!!!   Freeeeezing Frank!

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I've eaten a variety of invertebrates raw, including slugs, earthworms, maggots, ants, mayflies, and beetle larvae. 

Slugs are very spicy (at least the ones I've eaten), maggots are subtly sweet and take the taste of what they're eating (I've picked them off deer carcasses, and have 'raised' them on fish that have been filleted in summer), ----------etc.

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Amazed, inspired, and fascinated by your invertebrates exploits and envy your considerable courage!
Particularly intrigued by “have 'raised' them (maggots) on fish that have been filleted in summer”.
I would like a “blow by blow-fly” account of this!   Was the fish thoroughly rotted before offering it to flies?
Important, because fresh fish does not seem to interest flies much!
I like fish tasting maggots, and get real “buzz” seeing flies swarm on meat or fish, encouraging them as much as possible.   I can scarcely wait to see egg clusters, then long time before these are active.   Feed with more fish (rotten? fresh? which?) to sustain them.    My first attempt worked, but need advice to speed up process and increase yield, enjoy more often.   Please help!

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I happened to have left some meat out and forgot about it. I found maggots on it today. I thought about trying but I just COULDN'T DO IT MAN!   I threw it in the garbage.
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How disappointing you couldn’t eat the maggot infested meat, because you really wanted to try?    I similarly discarded my rotten Cod, simply because it had flies eggs on it, and did not even wait for maggots to develop, so very much regret not trying it.   Encouragement, from Cherimoya and Warrior, so making garage a fly friendly area, relocating all spiders and removing cobwebs, and hoping flies will be attracted to meat and fish hanging inside.   Been cool and wet lately, so not many around.   If all else fails, maggots are available in our local fishing tackle shop, so could introduce those to my rotten fish, meat and poultry.   I believe once they are rotted to suit the maggots, they will be good enough and ready to eat!   After all, we really want to join that exclusive band of raw Paleo diners who tackle and regularly enjoy this unusual treat, don’t we?

so i bought a whole chicken the other day and it's really got me loving raw chicken right now. tastes pretty amazing with all the fat. it's strange how things used to gross me out and now im loving them. i cant get another chicken til saturday but i've got a serious craving.

How do you set about eating a whole raw chicken?   I love raw chicken breasts and dream of tackling a small, whole raw chicken, but do not know how you systematically dismantle and eat it, as it obviously makes several meals on different days?   Some of it can be set aside in a jar at room temperature to go nice and rotten, and I enjoy eating this, but how much do you set aside?   Obviously you really know how to enjoy raw chicken, have a serious craving, and have found the pluck to take on the cluck!

(New topic?)

WANTED:
BUTCHERS AND FISHMONGERS WITH TASTE FOR ADVENTURE!

Small room or partitioned area at back of shop with tables so we can sample their food the way we like it!
Service charge to cover costs, perhaps non alcoholic drinks also available.   Raw sandwiches to take away, even raw Fish and Chips wrapped in paper.   Since they supply raw materials, possibilities are endless: “More blood with your steak, or fresh prawns with your Cod?”

Individual liability disclaimer letters, such as I use successfully for eating raw at establishments, might be needed.   A lot better than pestering restaurants who usually insist on cooking food anyway!

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Further experiment with Anisakis alongside Cod undergoing fermentation in refrigerator for five weeks found Cod tasted wonderful but adjacent Anisakis was still alive and fighting fit after five weeks at 5C to 10C no problem if you are rotting fish, he can survive inside it!

EATING FISHY TASTING MEATS.
Eat raw seal, whale or walrus and other fishy meats like Inuit delights?   Not locally available, so what else?   Swordfish tastes like a fishy version of raw pork, tuna is firm and fishy, and there are similar meaty fish to try.   Making ordinary meats taste fishy was a puzzle?    Putting fish on top of meat in the refrigerator with a little downward pressure would allow delicious fishy juices to infuse into the meat.   They could be eaten together as a fish/meat sandwich.   Smothering the meat with raw fermented cod liver oil would impart a cheesy, fishy taste.   For high meat they could be made to rot together in the refrigerator, or quicker at room temperature in frequently aired jars.   When thoroughly rotten, a cheesy, fishy, meaty taste might result!   My experiments continue!