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Science / Re: Betaine for working out and for weak stomach acid
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:38:26 am »
I do have quite some experience with low HCI as well. I tried ACV, Red wine vinegar, Lemon, Orange juice, Grapefruit juice, a juiced gingershot made with lemon, apple and ginger, beet juice, beet juice with carrot and ginger, raw corn on cob, sparkling water (both, naturally sparkling and added carbonation), certain red wines (syrah and carbernet sauvignon were best), and also bought 2 HCI brands. One from thorne (porcine source) and the other one from premier labs (beetroot source) among some mixes of the above like orange juice with lemon, acv with lemon juice and so forth..

I took some of these things for over a year and here are my observations:

1. Apple cider vinegar and lemon. They seem to help but in my experience they don´t in the long run. Especially ACV as it can surpress hunger and made my stomach bloated. So I didn´t want to drink it anymore when I drank it before a meal (also tried with and after a meal) even though I was hungry a couple of minutes earlier. That´s a problem if you then start to eat, since your digestive juices in the mouth do not prepare the stomach for the foods what´s about to come. So you eat and you cant digest it since the hunger feeling is gone. IMO it can replace HCI, but at the same time represses your own. Bad idea. Same with lemon and red wine winegar.

2. Orange juice and grapefruit juice (g is more acidic and less sugar) help digestion too but you get a lot of sugar and you are then dependent on them. I also observed that they surpress my own HCI.

3. The gingershot was helping as well, especially due to the ginger but same thing here. However, just biting into one ginger and leaving it in the mouth for several minutes after a meal helps A LOT more to enhance digestive juices/enzymes

4. Beet juice on its own did nothing, but juice with beets, carrots and ginger helped quite a lot. But it was such a mess and hazzle to do this that i stopped.

5. Raw corn on the cob. Worked really great, however, it´s expensive to get organic so it wasn´t feasible and practical (ur not gonna carry around raw corn on the cobs all the time ur out)

6. I tried several naturally and carbonated waters. I read that the carbonated ones are acidic (I assume the natural ones as well). They seemed to work since they made the food move through the intestines quickly which makes space in your stomach and therefore you feel you need to eat more. So more hunger more gastric acid is produced (at least in my theory). Only problem is that when you drink sparkling water (even naturally sparkling) all the time it hurts or maybe even inflames your intestines. Bad idea when u got inflamed intestines already.

7. Certain red wine grapes (which are more acidic) can help digestion tremendously. I would say 1-2 glasses were ok. The food got properly digested and the wine grapes themselves have digestive abilities which help digestion further down the digestive tract. Only problem is too much alcohol is no good when ur not fully healthy and it becomes expensive. Sleep however was great on 1-2 glasses as digestion was very fast and smooth.

8. As mentioned i tried 2 types of HCI. The porcine source made me blocked and bloated (maybe the pork source) and the other one I initially cut out too. However, I started the other one again, this time on a different time interval. That´s 30-45 minutes after food. And so far it works well but I would be careful as it has already been mentioned when you don´t have much stomach lining.

Basically what I can conclude at this stage is that most of these substitues are no good. What you want is your own body to produce enough HCI himself, not lower it by taking substitutes. You might think ACV helps, but it makes things worse. Since I cut out ACV and lemon juice for example, my body produces HCI by himself more and more it seems. I just made this discovery a couple of days ago and I still experiment with the HCI supplement, but I want to cut it out asap as well. Even when ur older you should produce your own HCI, not depend on supplements. Do tribes that eat a RVAF diet use supplements when they get older? No.

I think the most important thing to reproduce your own HCI is by NOT taking supplements, but by teaching your body how to produce it naturally again. I think one crucial thing is the need for hunger, since saliva is produced which is the first step, and how fast the digestive process is (let say food moves through the intestines). IMO that can be enhanced with fats and fiber. When I was eating a lot of bread and grains (like pasta which has a lot of sauce and olive oil) my digestion was super fast and great (aside of the accumulating inflammation which then fucked up digestion), but moving food through the intestines fast mainly with the help of fats or fiber, foods high in magnesium and therefore the peristaltic movement is crucial. I recently looked into food challenges. You know, the people which can eat a shitload of food very fast. Their stomach acid must be incredible and the digestion must work super fast. Otherwise there is no way you can stuff that much in such a short time without puking it all out in a couple of minutes. So I think the key is finding out how they do it and apply it to yourself by eating healthy foods. I also noticed that what I once read you should never do actually turned out to be more beneficial than anything. That´s drinking still water with meals. Especially cooked meals (which I eat since they are easier to digest than raw foods on low HCI).

So to recap. I think the key to get your stomach acid levels back to top class is by drinking a big glass of water before food (which increases the activation of saliva and digestive enzymes according to my experiments), then eat bigger portions more frequently (bulking up) step by step with plenty of fats AND fiber (fiber in form of tigernut flour and nuts to replace the fiber in breads) together with water. That would make things move fast and fast digestion means more hunger, means bigger portions which signals the body to produce more HCI naturally. During that time you could add HCI and digestive bitters (which i found very helpful but still didn´t finish experimenting with) and maybe magnesium if food travels too slowly through the intestines and ur not eating enough foods high in magnesium (if u for ex. are intolerant to certain foods), then slowly lowering these 2/3 supplements until you notice that your body produces HCI naturally again. Once that is done you could cut out the starch/fibers of the tigernut and nuts and eat raw fats and meats only. But in my experience its better to eat a cooked paleo diet first, since the collagen is broken down due to cooking which makes digestion a lot easier on low HCI, then once digestion/HCI is back up you switch to raw meats and raw fats, fully heal and u reached ur goal.

I also think that just taking digestive bitters without HCI could help a lot, that would also be healthier than a HCI supplement. I ordered one recently and will provide an update once tested properly. And then there is the issue of candida and parasites. I think if you have an overload of them your body can´t produce enough HCI in the first place. So you need to lower the "bad bacteria" candia level by cutting out all fruits except maybe lemon and papaya for lets say a month, at the same time kill the malicious parasites (i think not all are bad) and then you have the whole package to heal.


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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: bodybuilding and eating
« on: June 15, 2018, 06:52:44 am »
Looking Great. Congrats! I can´t digest raw meats well due to low HCI, however, things changed recently when I cut out lemons and ACV. My body seems to produce more HCI by itself now. Tried HCI tablets but they were useless. My energy levels are super low atm but I´m trying to excercise what I can. And I am adding bee pollen again to my diet. I read heaps about it and it´s supposed to be great for workout and muscle recovery, candida, parasites, energy and much much more. Technically you could live only that for some time. But you need to start to increase them slowly. Anyhow I see how it goes.

What organs do you add to ur smoothies and what liquid? Like water, milk?

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: bodybuilding and eating
« on: June 14, 2018, 03:26:18 am »
@surfsteve Don´t tell me ur 60 yrs old in that picture :o Otherwise I´ll start doing organ smoothies by tomorrow ;D

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Health / Re: Good news at my most recent dental visit
« on: June 10, 2018, 07:40:42 am »
Until recently I noticed the build up of tartar on the inside of my teeth. I ate quite a lot of fruits (including dried) and dairy. I limited both (will now cut totally) and added coconut oil pulling every morning and the tartar is vanishing. I´m on a cooked aip diet with low carbs. I think in your case u should have no problem to remineralize your teeth and even regrow them. Meaning that the cavities should fill up naturally and the existing ones pop out. There are accounts on the internet were broken teeth regrew by dietary changes and adding certain vitamins (like D) and minerals (like magnesium) plus other regiments that helped speeding up the process. And these people are mainly on a cooked paleo. I´m sure on a raw paleo it would go much faster. One example (read comments) would be here: https://wellnessmama.com/3650/remineralize-teeth

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Raw fat sources
« on: June 09, 2018, 07:21:31 am »
As far as I know these should be pretty much all:

Raw meat fat sources would be: Suet (around kidney and loins), Backfat, Bone Marrow (lower legs have softer marrow than upper), Brain fat, and any other fat sourrounding the animal such as muscle fat, trim fat and so forth

Raw other animal fat sources would be: Raw cream, Raw butter, Raw cheese, Raw milk (not as fatty but still fat, some breeds and animals have more some less), Raw eggs

Raw vegetable sources would be: Avocado, Raw coconut cream (from juiced normal (not young) coconut), Coconut oil (if truly raw), Olive oil (if truly raw), Fats from nuts and seeds and their oils (macadamia, walnut, sesame, flax and so forth if truly raw)

I think the best choices would be suet and marrow in terms of nutrition. Then there would be fatty animals meats such as mackerele, salmon ...

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General Discussion / Re: How to do a parasite cleanse
« on: June 06, 2018, 06:11:15 am »
IMO it all depends if you can digest the raw meat in your stomach. If you have low stomach acid and you eat raw meat or high meat then I think ur much more prone to get the bacteria that you don´t want. As it is now I could assume that I have more of the bad parasites because I consumed high meat quite frequently. And that, in retrospect, I shouldn´t have done on low stomach acid. But since I didn´t know I have low HCI I did it anyway.

And if u have very high HCI then it´s likely that it can kill most of the bad stuff, but leave u with the good. I mean there are always exceptions. Still, people on a RAF diet with high HCI can still get issues even though they did that diet for years. 

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General Discussion / Re: How to do a parasite cleanse
« on: June 04, 2018, 09:43:32 pm »
u know the names of these pills?

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General Discussion / Re: How to do a parasite cleanse
« on: June 04, 2018, 08:19:15 pm »
Ok. Does Praziquantel work for other parasites as well? And what did you do to balance out the negative effecs of the pill? Like probiotics and what not. Or u did nothing?

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General Discussion / Re: How to do a parasite cleanse
« on: June 04, 2018, 08:05:29 pm »
What did the doc prescribe you exactly?

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General Discussion / How to do a parasite cleanse
« on: June 04, 2018, 07:45:29 pm »
What would do you recommend for doing a parasite cleanse? I know that some parasites might be beneficial, however, I think an overload of bad ones is definetely not. I suspect to have a lot, which also seems to be the reason for my low HCI, low energy, brain fog, underweight, leaky gut, food intolerance, sleep disturbance, dry hair and skin and and and... everything under the sun and I see no end in sight, HCI just gets lower and lower so raw foods I had to totally stop since I can´t digest anything hard or cellulose like (unless some cooked veggies or cooked white fish or shellfish). I also have a lot of red vains in my sklera including radials in the iris which seems to be a sign for an overload of parasites as well. Parasites also effect the adrenals including cortisol levels aside of intestines blockages and many other things. So low HCI can be a result which then is a cause for malnutrition which effects everyting.

I just started this regime:

1. Water kefir for probiotics upon awakening
2. teaspoon of raw honey
3. 1 cup of coconut milk with 1 tbl. of coconut oil, whole small papaya and half of the seeds air dried and grounded into it. This tastes disgusting as the coconut milk is overwhelming, so I´ll change to either coconut water or do 20ml of ground papays seeds and honey
4. With meals I have 3 cloves of crushed garlic once a day. I heard that garlic extract is more powerful but they all seem to have additives in it.
5. During day quater of a papaya fruit
6. Gonna introduce a teaspoon of ground cloves
7. In the eve another water kefir plus another quater of papaya fruit with or without honey and later at night a tbl. of coconut oil with 4 drops of pure oregano oil.

I also have pets. I assume that they could have given them to me. As every time I am abroad I feel better, eat much more, have more energy and gain weight. It could be due to the fact that I am moving more, but I am not sure. To my cats I started to mix a bit of papaya into their food once a day in the morning. Anything else I could do?

Anything I am missing or you would recommend? I read that probiotics are important but I can´t digest sauerkraut, i cut out milk kefir and those powdered forms I am unsure. I did a stool test once, turned out negative but I read they aren´t reliable. Apparently you should do one that tests for 3 days. Nobody does it here. I can only go to alternative holistic people which do tests like bioresonance and what not. But I don´t know how reliable they are.

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General Discussion / Re: aged cheese much better than raw beef
« on: May 30, 2018, 04:45:09 am »
Raw meat is easier to digest than cooked, but this rule doesn´t apply if you have low gastric acid / HCI.

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General Discussion / Re: Enema - Colonic administration Guidelines
« on: May 25, 2018, 05:34:23 am »
I read that carbonated sparkling water can interfere with HCI. However I didn´t read the same about naturally carbonated water which I drink. So spring water that is naturally carbonated by the source. Leeks, garlic, onion, agave have inulin. And it seems to do me well. Also, it is a substance that seems to reverse authism according to the nemcheck protocol. So it´s an interesting substance which I didn´t experiment to the fullest so far. Salt I always use to increase HCI but cabbage I stay away due to the fact that it´s cruciferous which interferes with the thyroid. Sweet potato and meats are fine. No issues here. Figs can cause issues when dried as they are tough and hard to digest, Cherries are ok. Yeah, still need to experiment but I wanted to get a better pic about enemas since there is a lot of misconception about them.

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A lot of things contribute to a weak child and future disease. Not only nutrition or "inheritance". Things like the mothers nutrition, exposure to environmental toxins, cooking and household utensils (unless only raw foods are projected), exposure of toxins within the home environment like paints, moldy walls, dust and clean air, then exposure to radiation like cell phones, wifi, then products like shampoo, soaps, washing powder, dishwashing liquid, cleaning liquids, deodorants and much much more are subject to disease in your future offspring. That´s before the child is born. Then after it´s out there are a lot of things to consider as well. Choice of mattress (full of toxins), diapers (full of chemical), clothes (cotton doesn´t mean it´s all safe), toys, foods, carrier bags (for optimal future posture), baby wipes and and and. I didn´t even touch vaccines or meds during and after childbirth. There are a lot of things that can mess up a childs future life. Therefore I doubt that that it´s all about inheritance, some things yes but a lot depends on the childs upbringing and avoidance of toxins.

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General Discussion / Re: Enema - Colonic administration Guidelines
« on: May 25, 2018, 04:27:32 am »
I changed my diet a lot time ago. A bowel movement once a week without any negative effect sounds crazy to me. I mean it wouldn´t be an issue if food moves in the bowels, but if it doesn´t and if food is stuck it´s a big issue. If i don´t have one at least every 2 days there are problems. My brain shuts down, i get aggressive, i feel bloated, my concentration is totally gone and life sucks. I´m still trying to figure out why. And enemas might make u shit but they don´t fix the root cause. Things that I am still experimenting with are Magnesium, Inulin, Gelatine and Swedish bitters. I need something that makes the bowels move properly.

I noticed today that my stool is very soft towards the middle and top, but dried out and black at the beginning. I think that means that I need to cut out certain carb "like" grains that I eat. I´m talking about tigernut flour. As I cut out absolutely all grains by now anyway. I used to eat chestnut flour but since that´s high in carbs that I blocked me too. I do eat veggies high in carbs such as sweet potatoes, but I do think thats not an issue. I drink a lot of water and eat a lot of coconut oil with foods (like 4-5 tbl. per meal) to get enough fats. I also eat eggs and olive oil. Other raw fats I can´t break down due to low HCI.  In general raw meats since my HCI is pretty much zero. So I need to compensate somehow. That I do with either ACV or orange juice, sparkling water with lemon or  juiced ginger with apple and lemon to digest cooked meats. Raw meats forget it. Too much collagen.

@van for some reason I don´t see any of your replies, there seems to be a bug.  Would be great if you could post your replies them again.

Thanks a lot for your guidance goodsamaritan. I really do appreciate it!

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General Discussion / Re: Enema - Colonic administration Guidelines
« on: May 23, 2018, 04:41:04 am »
I would also agree that they should be used when absolutely needed, if lets say u didn´t have bowel movements for several days or severe blockages. But I think it´s a better approach than laxative pills.

@Van it would be great if you could state your opinion considering your experience with other people.

3. What time would be best. Mornings only? Or evenings?
5. How to clean an enema sack? With water, "natural soap", ACV?
6. What to eat before and after an enema? And throughout the remaing day.
7. How long to retain the liquid and what positions during administration should be used?

I think many people might do them in the wrong way, because they read somewhere, somehow, how it 'should' be done. But they could harm themselves by doing them wrong or overdoing them.

And what dario said makes sense. Grains and similar carbs make the stool much harder, so if u have a compromised digestion these type of foods can get stuck easily leading to constipation. Then when you drink too much water it can dry out even more leading to more issues. Which can resort in abusing the 'tool'.

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General Discussion / Re: Enema - Colonic administration Guidelines
« on: May 22, 2018, 05:45:26 am »
I am with you on this one, however, it can sometimes be a relieve in emergency cases. No paleo diet could possibly achieve that "quick fix".

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General Discussion / Enema - Colonic administration Guidelines
« on: May 21, 2018, 04:32:01 am »
I know a great topic and everbody´s favourite :) However, I´d like to know how it should be done properly and what the dangers are. I remember AV said that it´s a radical flushing of the colon and he didn´t recommend it. As far as I know it flushes out the good and the bad bacteria, remaining fecal matter, parasites and other "stuff". It´s also practiced by a lot of people during detoxes. But there are still certain question marks to me. I think goodsamaritan uses it for his healings right? My questions would be:

1. In general, useful or harmful? When not to use it?
2. How frequently should one use it. I know u don´t use it 24/7 but how often in a day and how often during a "detox"?
3. What time would be best. Mornings only? Or evenings?
4. What liquids to use? Some people suggest coffee (which I think can be harmful), some water with acv or lemon, some plain water. Then there are other strange combinations like chlorella or spirulina?
5. How to clean an enema sack? With water, "natural soap", ACV?
6. What to eat before and after an enema? And throughout the remaing day.
7. How long to retain the liquid and what positions during administration should be used?

I´d appreciate ur input.

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General Discussion / Re: aged cheese much better than raw beef
« on: May 11, 2018, 01:11:14 am »
Thanks. But it doesn´t prove anything that A2 Milk is a scam.

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General Discussion / Re: aged cheese much better than raw beef
« on: May 11, 2018, 12:05:03 am »
Link can´t be opened. It needs subscription. I know that you are very much against milk because of what you went through, but A1 and A2 breeds are definitely not a scam. I did way too much research about this topic. And needless to say, but rivals always like to discredit the competition (looking at the link text), after all they don´t want to loose business.

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General Discussion / Re: aged cheese much better than raw beef
« on: May 10, 2018, 11:20:56 pm »
I think we strongly need to differentiate between the types of dairy. I believe most of these studies are done on conventional pasteurized or UHT milk, since raw dairy still has such a stigma in the common and medical world. Many ancient cultures, remote area people and tribes, including several centenarian areas eat dairy frequently if not daily. But these people don´t eat conventional, grain fed, A1 breed, pasteurized or UHT milk. They mainly have raw dairy from Sheep, Goat and their cow breeds are mainly A2. I think their bodies have adapted very well to this type of milk and it doesn´t cause issues, instead it´s part of their staple diet. These cultures also eat gluten grains and still they liver long and comparably healthier than many "westerners". I think their genetics play a major role as does their whole environment. I agree about the malicious downsides of gluten, i experienced it myself, but for some reason they don´t have an issue with it. It could be because a) there is less or maybe no? gluten in their grain b) the body just got so used to it due to genetics and c) the staple diet they have might minimizes the damage of gluten.

I know there are people which can´t even tolerate raw A2, maybe because their system got damages a lot by the conventional milk, or their genetics simply doesn´t allow having it, or at this stage the body just doesn´t want it.

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I´ll check thanks.

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The body has a hard time to dispose of it - dispose in terms of detoxing or in terms of digestion (stool)? I know it might be the same thing but still wanna ask.

Basically if i were to eat fat and sugar then I would gain weight, instead of it being used for energy correct? I think that was a reason why he suggested raw milk, cream and honey to gain weight (AV) but that would also make the bloodstream sticky no? Based on that, considering being underweight, what would you suggest to gain weight in a healthy way?

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General Discussion / Re: aged cheese much better than raw beef
« on: May 09, 2018, 08:48:32 pm »
I don´t recall the exact amount of days how long clabbered milk lasted in the fridge. But it was several days. I mainly made quark (similar to cottage cheese) and that I ate always quickly. When you put clabbered milk in the fridge then you just slow down further fermentation. I believe it would last 7 days, maybe more. Pasteurized (organic) joghurt is easy on my digestion since its mush and creamy, opposite to quark or cottage cheese which is a bit clumpy. Clabbered milk is sour and can become clumpy too, so with low HCI that needs to break down the bigger milk clumps can be an issue, so I would take it easy unless u put it in the blender to make it creamy. But with clabbered milk i didn´t have too much of a problem. Raw organic grassfed cows milk was the easiest to digest since its liquid, next would be organic pasteurized joghurt (never tried raw joghurt), followed by a little bit of kefir and clabbered milk. Proper cheese I never made so I wouldn´t know.

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General Discussion / Re: aged cheese much better than raw beef
« on: May 09, 2018, 05:07:26 am »
I used to crave cheese like crazy, but now I don´t touch anything else than yoghurt and sometimes milk kefir. I remember when I drank good quality raw cow´s milk my digestion was great. But atm I can´t get it. And I noticed that my body doesn´t want me to eat alkaline foods anymore, when I have meat with salad leaves or herbs, digestion takes very long. Guess it´s because acidic and alkaline foods don´t like each other when HCI is low or when your body wants to heal and produce more HCI again.

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What u mean with he discovered the glycation? I remember he said that honey is good for digestion, so if you don´t have enough fat let´s say at hand, you can swap with honey for better digestion?

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