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Well I didn't really notice much during the next 24 hours or so, and anything I had felt could have been caused by other factors than the clay, but as far as detox symptoms, I really didn't have any as far as I know, I felt normal enough after the sick feeling went away. I do know that a day or two later, I had some extreme difficulty, uh.. going to the bathroom, much more difficulty than I've had since starting to try and eat raw about a year ago or so, as far as I can remember. But that could have been caused by any number of factors, since I'm not exactly eating an ideal diet at the moment, even though I'm eating mostly raw at least, but still.. too much dairy and I've been experimenting a lot with raw caco powder trying to make homemade raw chocolates and stuff.. but yeah, I don't know if that was caused by the clay itself, or perhaps clay mixed with other factors, or just other factors that had nothing to do with the clay I ate.
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Off Topic / Re: Metal Utensils
« on: July 24, 2011, 03:06:12 am »
oh, and the knives are smooth-edged but are serrated on the sides I guess.. the ceramic knife I use is called a Yoshiblade, and the metal knife I used was just a regular steak knife?
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Off Topic / Re: Metal Utensils
« on: July 24, 2011, 03:04:13 am »
I try to avoid plastic, too. But plastic is MUCH MUCH MUCH more difficult to avoid than metal.. if I want bottled water, all of it comes in plastic bottles, unless I get nasty tap water which is filled with who knows what kinds of chemicals and chlorine and sanitizers and ugh.. the raw milk that I buy only comes in plastic containers, all of the grassfed meat that I buy comes in vacuum-sealed plastic, all of my fruits come in plastic containers or if they don't, then there's only plastic bags to put them in.. there's also the plastic shopping carts I have to touch, plastic toothbrush I have to use, plastic shampoo bottles, plastic this, plastic that.. eggs seem to be the only safe thing, they come in cardboard containers and have their shells to protect them. But otherwise, plastic is completely unavoidable. even glass bottles come with either a plastic cap or a metal cap. I've given up on avoiding plastic, because otherwise I would have to live off eating only eggs, and then I wouldn't be able to go anywhere or touch anything.. no working either, because everything at work is kept in plastic.
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Off Topic / Metal Utensils
« on: July 23, 2011, 12:38:23 am »
I've been meaning to ask this for a while, but do any of you guys avoid using metal utensils?
After reading a detox solution of raw eggs and lime juice that says not to use metal utensils or else the concoction won't work, about how high meat made in a metal container caused botulism, and after my mom told me that an apple cut with a metal knife will turn brown, but when cut with a plastic or ceramic knife it doesn't, I went out and bought myself a ceramic knife. Since then I have been avoiding metal utensils as much as possible, although I have used them here and there, it is certainly no longer a daily occurrence. I don't let any of my food come into contact with metal if I can help it, and I often wonder if any of my food had touched metal before I bought it.. I'm sure all of my cuts of meat were probably cut with a metal knife, or ground beef ground with metal machines, who knows if my raw milk and dairy products were ever stored in those metal milk containers, or otherwise came into contact with metal.. although I'm sure most fruit and eggs should be fine, since eggs are protected by their shell, and fruit would only have the vines cut by metal. I often wonder if my water has come into contact with metal, too, and I wonder if all this exposure to metal is a bad thing, or if I'm just being paranoid for no reason?
I never really noticed too much of a difference in my fruit cut with a ceramic knife as opposed to a metal knife and left in the fridge. But one thing I did notice was that when I accidentally cut myself with a metal knife, just little small cuts, they sting and hurt like hell.. but when I accidentally cut myself with my ceramic knife, it hurt, but it didn't even sting at all and didn't hurt nearly as badly.
After reading a detox solution of raw eggs and lime juice that says not to use metal utensils or else the concoction won't work, about how high meat made in a metal container caused botulism, and after my mom told me that an apple cut with a metal knife will turn brown, but when cut with a plastic or ceramic knife it doesn't, I went out and bought myself a ceramic knife. Since then I have been avoiding metal utensils as much as possible, although I have used them here and there, it is certainly no longer a daily occurrence. I don't let any of my food come into contact with metal if I can help it, and I often wonder if any of my food had touched metal before I bought it.. I'm sure all of my cuts of meat were probably cut with a metal knife, or ground beef ground with metal machines, who knows if my raw milk and dairy products were ever stored in those metal milk containers, or otherwise came into contact with metal.. although I'm sure most fruit and eggs should be fine, since eggs are protected by their shell, and fruit would only have the vines cut by metal. I often wonder if my water has come into contact with metal, too, and I wonder if all this exposure to metal is a bad thing, or if I'm just being paranoid for no reason?
I never really noticed too much of a difference in my fruit cut with a ceramic knife as opposed to a metal knife and left in the fridge. But one thing I did notice was that when I accidentally cut myself with a metal knife, just little small cuts, they sting and hurt like hell.. but when I accidentally cut myself with my ceramic knife, it hurt, but it didn't even sting at all and didn't hurt nearly as badly.
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Well uh, I ground up my clay into a powder, then mixed it with water (I only ever drink fiji water, if what the labels on fiji water say is true, then it is the purest most natural water that I can possibly get in my opinion. It is far too smoggy and polluted here, in SoCal, for me to consider using rainwater, and I have never nor will I ever trust tap water, even filtered.) just enough for it to become the texture of like regular clay that you use for molding and firing. I mixed it with my fingers, I don't trust metal utensils anyways but the instructions with the clay say not to use metal anyways because it reacts with the clay. I ground it in a marble mortar and pestle, and mixed it in an either glass bowl, or a plastic so hard that it feels like glass.. I can't tell if these bowls I bought are glass or plastic, and the box didn't say (which makes me suspect they might be plastic) but then one of them broke, it broke just like glass, so.. I don't know.
Anyways, I ate about a spoonful or so of this stuff, right after mixing it, I didn't really let it sit or anything. I ate it first thing in the morning, when my stomach was completely empty, since the night before the only thing i consumed was some water mixed with raw apple cider vinegar. I ate it slowly, first licking the stuff off my fingers since I mixed it with them and it was all over my fingers, then I took out a lump of it and popped it in my mouth, slowly sucking and chewing on it like I would a piece of hard candy or taffy, and making sure to eat it slowly so it wouldn't all be one big lump. Soon afterwards, I got a really bad stomach ache, that eventually got to the point that I felt like puking. I even went to the toilet and hung my head over it waiting to puke, but it's very difficult for me to puke even if I really feel like it and even if I stick my fingers down my throat. I never ended up puking, I just lay in bed curled up, half asleep for a while. The stomach ache didn't go away for a long while, and I was really really hungry since I hadn't eaten for a while either, and finally ended up eating some raw cheese. A little while after eating the cheese I started to feel better, even though I felt like eating it was going to make me want to puke even more, it didn't. It also tasted extremely salty to me, though it is salted cheese, it had never tasted so salty to me before. Though that might be because on the first batch of clay that I made I added a bunch of my himilayan pink salt, but it ended up tasting way too salty for me, so I didnt eat much of it and made a new batch with just pure clay and water.
But it made me feel so sick tht I'm scared to eat it again, I don't know why it made me so nauseated though..
Anyways, I ate about a spoonful or so of this stuff, right after mixing it, I didn't really let it sit or anything. I ate it first thing in the morning, when my stomach was completely empty, since the night before the only thing i consumed was some water mixed with raw apple cider vinegar. I ate it slowly, first licking the stuff off my fingers since I mixed it with them and it was all over my fingers, then I took out a lump of it and popped it in my mouth, slowly sucking and chewing on it like I would a piece of hard candy or taffy, and making sure to eat it slowly so it wouldn't all be one big lump. Soon afterwards, I got a really bad stomach ache, that eventually got to the point that I felt like puking. I even went to the toilet and hung my head over it waiting to puke, but it's very difficult for me to puke even if I really feel like it and even if I stick my fingers down my throat. I never ended up puking, I just lay in bed curled up, half asleep for a while. The stomach ache didn't go away for a long while, and I was really really hungry since I hadn't eaten for a while either, and finally ended up eating some raw cheese. A little while after eating the cheese I started to feel better, even though I felt like eating it was going to make me want to puke even more, it didn't. It also tasted extremely salty to me, though it is salted cheese, it had never tasted so salty to me before. Though that might be because on the first batch of clay that I made I added a bunch of my himilayan pink salt, but it ended up tasting way too salty for me, so I didnt eat much of it and made a new batch with just pure clay and water.
But it made me feel so sick tht I'm scared to eat it again, I don't know why it made me so nauseated though..
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General Discussion / Re: I just ate my first steak in 20 years - what should I expect?
« on: July 22, 2011, 02:09:36 pm »
Top sirloin is my favourite steak to eat raw, out of the steaks I have tried.. but as for the 100% grass-fed steaks, there isn't much choice, I have only seen top sirloin, flank, and rib-eye. For some reason I hate the taste of the rib-eye, and it tastes slightly rotten to me, but I can't seem to handle high meat anymore. Fresh top sirloin, while still all red and no brown, tastes amazing to me eaten raw. The flank was just okay. I haven't tried any of the other steaks grass-fed.
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Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Roadkill-eating info
« on: July 20, 2011, 10:23:07 pm »
There ends up being a lot of ran over rabbits and squirrels around here, but I'm kind of scared to eat them because I have no idea what they've been eating.. how do I know they haven't been digging through people's trash and eating nasty human food? How do I know the grass they're eating from hasn't been sprayed with toxic chemicals? How do I know that some of the people around here, who find all the rabbits as pests, didn't spray their yard with poison to kill the rabbits? I don't live in the country, there's no forests around here, just a bunch of dry fields lined with roads that people probably throw all their trash into, plus the rodents might be polluted from all the cars that drive around here, with all the toxins I don't see how the animals could even be considered organic, and might all be contaminated with disease from pollution..
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Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Jerky "Protein Bars"
« on: July 20, 2011, 06:52:46 am »wolf, another great picture from you. thank you for being so creative.
Thank you.. I still crave foods from my SAD days, so I have been looking for ways to make something similar yet still raw and healthy.. so I make raw flavoured jerky, raw ice cream, raw chocolate syrup.. not the best things to eat, but certainly not the worst, as the regular stuff you buy from the store is much much worse.
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Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Ice Cream
« on: July 20, 2011, 06:11:15 am »
I didn't know you could use raw egg yolks in ice cream, none of the recipes I looked at called for egg yolks.. maybe I will try adding them next time I make ice cream.
the texture of my raw chocolate ice cream was a bit crunchy actually, but i think it is because if the milk.. the milk was a lot more watery than the cream, and so the water in the milk froze into crunchy flakes in the ice cream. When I made ice cream with only cream and no milk, I didn't have that problem. It still tasted good even with the crunchy ice texture, though.. just seemed slightly more like a popsicle than creamy ice cream, which is why I mentioned to churn it more.. so that it could come closer to the texture of butter before freezing it, that would make a very creamy ice cream I think.
the texture of my raw chocolate ice cream was a bit crunchy actually, but i think it is because if the milk.. the milk was a lot more watery than the cream, and so the water in the milk froze into crunchy flakes in the ice cream. When I made ice cream with only cream and no milk, I didn't have that problem. It still tasted good even with the crunchy ice texture, though.. just seemed slightly more like a popsicle than creamy ice cream, which is why I mentioned to churn it more.. so that it could come closer to the texture of butter before freezing it, that would make a very creamy ice cream I think.
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Okay so I just bought some clay from that frenchgreenclayforallwhatever site, and now I have this jar of clay and all.. so can I just eat this stuff straight? Or should I do what the paper tells me to and soak it in water overnight, drink only the white clay "milk" that it forms, and leave the residue at the bottom? Can I mix the clay with a little water so that it goes from being dry, to more of an actual "clay" and still eat it like that? Or what? Are there any things I should avoid doing or mixing the clay with? I don't know how all this works, though I'd assume I'd be able to eat this stuff straight.
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I still have no idea how to collect clay in the wild. :S
You'd have to find a deposit of clay that was edible and not contaminated..
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Display Your Culinary Creations / Ice Cream
« on: July 18, 2011, 01:42:20 am »
This picture is of some chocolate ice cream covered in chocolate syrup, and a dash of cinnamon powder and cacao powder. I made both vanilla and chocolate ice cream, but I ate up all the vanilla ice cream before I could get any pictures of it!
To make the chocolate and vanilla ice cream, I bought a pint of raw cream and a quart of raw milk, and used two of my old 2lb jars of honey that I washed out after finishing all the honey. I poured half the cream and half the milk in each jar, then mixed in about 3 - 4 ounces of raw honey mixed with either vanilla extract or cacao powder. I wanted extra-vanilla and extra-chocolate tasting ice cream, so I added a lot of vanilla extract and cacao powder, but if you don't want such intense flavour or so much sweetness, you can add in less honey and flavour. I mixed the ice cream really well, but I am inpatient so I didn't mix it for long. It probably would have came out creamier if I had churned it for much longer, or used less milk, and if you have the time, you should churn it for as long as you can. I kept most of the stuff chilled while I did this, because I live in southern california so it's always pretty hot here, so I kept the jars in ice while I was mixing. Then I put them in the freezer and left them overnight! Ta da, vanilla and chocolate ice cream.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/SrIacIovv/Food/0717010944a.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/SrIacIovv/Food/0717010943b.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/SrIacIovv/Food/0717010943a.jpg
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I'm pretty sure edible clay is completely different from both regular dirt and from pottery clay. I don't think you can eat pottery clay, but really I have no idea so don't take anything I say as fact, only speculation. But I would assume only pure clays of high mineral content would be sought out.
With a simple search, I was able to find these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geophagy
http://www.eytonsearth.org/bentonite.html
With a simple search, I was able to find these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geophagy
http://www.eytonsearth.org/bentonite.html
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General Discussion / Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
« on: July 15, 2011, 09:23:21 am »If you get depressed from an event it doesn't mean that you ever had depression. It just meant that you responded to an event.
They were events which caused me extreme sadness, which in my book means I was depressed.. since it was painful enough to cause me to be unable to eat, painful enough to make me go from taking all the stairs every single time, to feeling too weak to even walk from my car to the elevator, in one day..
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General Discussion / Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
« on: July 13, 2011, 11:29:10 pm »Did your depression improve on the Raw paleo diet?
My depression was caused by incidents that happened in my life that had nothing to do with diet. It was not spontaneous depression, it was depression from a cause, and changing what I ate would not have changed how I felt in those situations.
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Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Jerky "Protein Bars"
« on: July 13, 2011, 11:18:39 pm »
I only added salt for taste. You can make these with meat-only if you want. As long as it is not cooked, meat won't go bad, only become high, won't it? I don't know about if it has had salt added or not though, but I only added the salt for taste, and it is raw himalayan pink salt.
I also didn't make these to store for a long time. I only made them because I don't like the taste of the ground grass-fed beef anymore, only the grass-fed steaks, but the only store I can find grass-fed steaks from has been out of stock for a while.. So I was looking for an alternative to still be able to eat grass-fed meat everyday.
If I was going to do it for storing meat, I probably wouldn't have added any spices or salt, because I wouldn't know how the spices and salt would react sitting around for long periods of time mixed with the meat. But I have thought I might possibly turn some of the grass-fed steaks, when I get them, into jerky for storage, because I also don't like it so much after it has become high, and would rather still be able to eat it even as dry dehydrated jerky. However, I also don't know how much nutritional damage that dehydrating does..
I also didn't make these to store for a long time. I only made them because I don't like the taste of the ground grass-fed beef anymore, only the grass-fed steaks, but the only store I can find grass-fed steaks from has been out of stock for a while.. So I was looking for an alternative to still be able to eat grass-fed meat everyday.
If I was going to do it for storing meat, I probably wouldn't have added any spices or salt, because I wouldn't know how the spices and salt would react sitting around for long periods of time mixed with the meat. But I have thought I might possibly turn some of the grass-fed steaks, when I get them, into jerky for storage, because I also don't like it so much after it has become high, and would rather still be able to eat it even as dry dehydrated jerky. However, I also don't know how much nutritional damage that dehydrating does..
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Display Your Culinary Creations / Jerky "Protein Bars"
« on: July 13, 2011, 02:19:43 pm »
This is about a half pound of grass-fed ground beef(trader joe's brand), mixed with fresh chopped garlic, Himalayan pink salt, paprika, and a little basil and oregano, shaped into bars and sprinkled with more paprika because I love it, then dehydrated at about 90 - 110 degrees F so that they're still raw.. but acceptable to eat in public.
They weren't dehydrated for long, so they're still a little soft, but they'd be darker and chewier if I had dehydrated them longer. I also made jerky sticks like slim jims before, but didn't get to take a picture before I ate them all. They took a very long time to roll into sticks though, so this time I just made bars.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/SrIacIovv/Food/0712011553b.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/SrIacIovv/Food/0712011553c.jpg
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Primal Diet / Re: New Aajonus DVD for Primal Dieters(presumably dairy-rich recipes etc.)
« on: July 13, 2011, 03:12:18 am »
RAW CHEESECAKE?
Does he use raw milk? if so, how does he make it? I've been wanting to make raw cheesecake ever since I saw some raw vegan cheesecakes at the organics store, but I don't want them to be vegan.. I want to make raw cheesecake with raw milk!
Does he use raw milk? if so, how does he make it? I've been wanting to make raw cheesecake ever since I saw some raw vegan cheesecakes at the organics store, but I don't want them to be vegan.. I want to make raw cheesecake with raw milk!
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Primal Diet / Re: Raw unsalted cheese from 100% grassfed cows
« on: July 13, 2011, 02:09:09 am »
You could always buy raw milk and make your own cheese. There's tutorials on youtube and all over the internet on how to make cheese, even from raw milk.
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Off Topic / Re: Book - Into the Wild
« on: July 13, 2011, 02:07:34 am »
I remember watching that movie, though I never read the book. All I know is that ever since I went raw, I keep thinking that if only that guy had known what we know here, he could have eaten that moose and survived, rather than listening to that stupid hunter that told him once the flies come, the meat is ruined. I would have just ate it anyways, and ate it raw.
Good movie, although I wish he hadn't died in the end like that, because then it only makes some people think well that's what he gets for trying to survive in the wild. And that we shouldn't try to do those things, because it will ultimately lead to our death.
But in fact, doing something like that has always been one of my dreams as well. I've always wanted to run away to the forests and survive in the wild like an animal.. and ever since reading books about wolves in elementary school, it changed to running away to the forest and finding a pack of wolves to accept me, to join them and survive with them, lol. Especially since I've now found this site and learned about eating raw, it seems all the more possible though.
Good movie, although I wish he hadn't died in the end like that, because then it only makes some people think well that's what he gets for trying to survive in the wild. And that we shouldn't try to do those things, because it will ultimately lead to our death.
But in fact, doing something like that has always been one of my dreams as well. I've always wanted to run away to the forests and survive in the wild like an animal.. and ever since reading books about wolves in elementary school, it changed to running away to the forest and finding a pack of wolves to accept me, to join them and survive with them, lol. Especially since I've now found this site and learned about eating raw, it seems all the more possible though.
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Off Topic / Re: cron-o-meter is amazing!
« on: July 12, 2011, 10:00:16 am »
I like using nutritiondata.com for that information.. because they have a lot of the different nutrients listed, including omega 3 and 6.. although they don't have all that many foods, and it's hard to find raw too.. plus, it doesn't have differences between organic/non organic, and other stuff like that.
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I've been curious about this too.. Where do you find edible clay? would it be in my regular organics store? Or do I have to search at some special store? Or can you only get it online or something?
and can you eat it for other health problems, other than poison? and which sort of health problems? or is it just a plain detox?
and can you eat it for other health problems, other than poison? and which sort of health problems? or is it just a plain detox?
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