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Eating raw meat probably never even entered that guys mind. I think it just focused on raw salads.

I wonder. What ever happened to Polk Salad Annie?

Health / Re: How do you get over your addiction to cooked food?
« on: June 05, 2017, 11:55:35 pm »
I broke down and ate some smoked sausage last night. I had the worst nightmares. Come to think of it I've been having really good dreams lately. I thought it was due to juicing citrus with the peelings on but maybe some of it had to do with the fact that I've been eating so much raw food. Does raw food affect your dreams?

Health / Re: How do you get over your addiction to cooked food?
« on: June 05, 2017, 11:35:29 pm »
It's probably worse than you thought. Unless you are addicted to raw fruit you have an addiction to both!. Sorry for the bad news.

thanks for this valuable information
On how to make mayo or that HG means hunter gatherers?

Health / Re: How do you get over your addiction to cooked food?
« on: June 05, 2017, 09:51:34 am »
Well after three days it happened. I started thinking about roasted pumpkin seeds and craving cooked food. I been thinking about it and it's possible that it's the salt I am craving. Most raw foods I eat I do not salt but I did use a lot of salt on the raw tartare I made and I haven't had any since early this morning around 12 hours ago. I tried eating some raw nuts instead of the pumpkin seeds and it just didn't hit the spot. I ordered some powdered salt that will stick to them but it wont be here for a couple days. I actually put some salt on a few of them and very carefully ate them without knocking it off and maybe the craving is going down a little bit. I'm thinking maybe I should experiment with putting salt on some of the raw foods I normally eat plain. Normally I start craving cooked food the next day but I made it three days so it might be worth holding out a little longer and consuming some extra salt to find out if that is what is causing the cravings and not so much cooked food like I originally thought. It's worth a try!

General Discussion / Re: Eating mosquitoes?
« on: June 05, 2017, 08:36:39 am »

"Waiter. There is a fly in my soup!"

"Didn't you order the fly soup?"

"No I'm on a diet ordered the mosquito."

I tried to make a variation on this using only egg yolks and my stick mixer but it wasn't getting very creamy. Next I added some vinegar to the egg yolks but it only helped a little. It wasn't till I added the honey that I got it to whip up nicely. I added it to some blueberries and it was pretty good. Next time I'll leave out the vinegar and try it. Is there any way to get it to whip up without the honey? There is already more sugar in blueberries than I care to consume.

Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi, I'm Robin!
« on: June 05, 2017, 03:28:49 am »
Hi Robin! Till I saw this post I was wondering if you were male or female, as your name suggests that you could be either "Robin love" or "Rob in love". Now I know!

Silly me. Even the new kid should have known that one.

Health / Re: How do you get over your addiction to cooked food?
« on: June 05, 2017, 01:38:46 am »
As I mentioned in a post in another thread I'm beginning to think my craving for cooked food is more mental than physical. I wonder if the answer lies in some sort of mental exercise to tell myself and what that should be. According to the bible even god liked the aroma of burning flesh saying it was “a pleasing odor to the lord”. What a load of brain washing hooey!

what are HG's?

General Discussion / Re: Why Do Vegans Hate Me?
« on: June 05, 2017, 01:13:34 am »
Actually anyone that would rather attack someone for eating caged animals than do something about the people responsible for caging them is a coward. If you were to do that by peaceful and legislative means you would have people like me 100% behind you instead of 100% against you.

You are no different than the government going after drug users who have an illness rather than the people supplying them with their addictions. It's easy and profitable to go after defensive addicts and ignore drug cartels with machine guns. 

I buy what I can afford. Provide me with the means to acquire grass fed meat and I will gladly comply. But I'm not going to starve myself to make some winy little ass, self proclaimed phony liberal feel better. Don't try and put me in a cage instead of the animals you show pity for!

I guess that makes me an ever rarer exception than the females. My girlfriend likes to waste money ordering take out and prepared foods. While I prepare everything I eat myself. Mostly out of necessity due to economics but I also like to take pride in my creations. I often find myself cooking something that she gave me for her entire family. None of them are very good cooks while I on the other hand can prepare a seasoned chicken in under 5 minutes and take it over to their apartment and get to listen to them rant and rave how good it is for hours.

I am a thrifty cook and food preparer but I am also a highly efficient one. My version of steak tartare takes me less than three minutes to make. Five if I include washing out the food processor and lemon juicer.

Since I started making steak tartare I've been eating it every day. The only cooked food I've had during that time has been an occasional cup of coffee. The best part is that I have had almost no cravings for anything else cooked. Very strange. I'm beginning to think my addiction to cooked foods was more mental than any kind of actual physical craving. The only bad thing is that I haven't eaten  very many organ meats lately. Two steps forwards and one step backwards yet once again!

Wouldn't that make eggs in small quantities paleo? I like to think of paleos going around eating nothing but mammoths but how often did this actually happen? My guess would be hardly ever and would be a rare occasion and that most of the time they wound up eating insects and grubs. I didn't really look but I didn't see anybody posting a recipe or photograph of any one eating insects though they were probably the most abundant animals available.

I saw that but thought it was only for members to display what they have created. Not for recipes found on the internet. It would be interesting to find a section on how many ways you could prepare tartare. Already I'm falling into a rut and have made it the exact same way 3 times in a row. (for some reason that's all I want to eat anymore since I discovered it.) Why mess with perfection? Answer: for variety!

I'm going to have to try that with my shiitakes once I'm done freezing them for another week as a precaution to kill off any would be parasites.

How about adding them to some raw liver and onions? Maybe I will try that.

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: REQUEST: hot sauce
« on: June 04, 2017, 06:03:46 am »
You don't need vinegar when fermenting vegetables because the act of fermentation will make it's own vinegar.

Here are some of my fermentations I used to have sitting on my counter. I only fermented them for a couple of days. Not months! Though that was in a very warm kitchen. It would take longer if the temperature is lower. Normally I would ferment until the onions begin to clear. Just a little bit longer than in the picture. Be sure and leave the lids loose while fermenting to let off the carbon dioxide gas. Otherwise you will wind up with carbonated vegetables.

My salsa was one of my favorite things and everybody liked it. A big jar like that would be gone in just a few days because it was so good you could eat it on the side just like a vegetable.

For best results taste your fernentations at least twice a day. They should start tasting better and better till they reach a point. Once you reach that point stop immediately and put them in the fridge. Note how long it took and the next time ferment them for just a little bit less. Sometimes I remember that the jar would be half empty from "tasting" it before the fermenting was done. No harm done. That's the best way to do it!

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Primal shake recipe wanted
« on: June 04, 2017, 05:45:04 am »
I used to make my raw organ meat shakes using pineapple juice. It tasted really good that way but due to improper food combining gave me some really fowl smelling gas. AKA gym clearing gas. When I switched to using water it made a night and day difference in that department. One thing I really miss was liver and pineapple juice. Yum! For some reason if I whipped it long enough in the food processor it would homogenize into a really thick shake! You gotta try it. Just don't plan on being around a lot of people in a social setting afterwards!

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: fatty wild meat, which sources?
« on: June 04, 2017, 05:35:55 am »
Fish contains a lot of fat. Especially if you eat the skin. When I used to windsurf on the Columbia river there was always a white foam all over the place that smelled rather fishy. That's because it was. It was composed of fish fat formed by the oils floating on the surface and whipped up by the waterfalls. (Hmm. May have been a rather crude form of organic mayo made by mother nature herself!) There is also a lot of fat in most insects. Anyone know the fat content in a bowl full of grubs? I imagine it's quite high!

Hot Topics / Re: How junk food causes depression
« on: June 04, 2017, 05:21:55 am »
I think even cooked food causes depression.

So I was wondering. Just how paleo is mayonnaise? Eggs are paleo no doubt. And they had oil in paleo times. Didn't they? But last I checked no one has ever found a fossilized stick mixer! I recall reading that mayo was made during the days of the Roman empire for the elite and it was mixed by hand with a whisk but it must have taken a hell of a technique. Funny. Now that conjures up a vision of a cave man whipping up a batch of mayo in a stone bowl with a small tree branch; which as unlikely as it sounds, is entirely possible I suppose!

Making your own mayonnaise can be very rewarding. It lets you use your own healthy oils, is free of preservatives and forms the basis for all thick salad dressings. Plus it's almost like magic when you are able to combine two watery substances together into a thick mixture without cooking them.

Mayonnaise is basically an emulsification of raw egg, water (or vinegar), oil and spices. But when you mix all those ingredients together you normally wind up with a gooey mess. The trick to making it is mixing it in such a way that it becomes emulsified into beautiful thick mayonnaise.  To do this successfully is more of an art than a process which is so delicate that superstitions have developed over generations that a batch will fail if it is made with someone in the room with the wrong vibe. It has almost become a religion.

I've made hundreds of batches of mayo and I've done it successfully for so long that hardly any of my batches ever fail but when I first started making it I had a hell of a time getting it to emulsify. Forget about making it by hand or even in a food processor. That is for experts. The trick I've learned is to use a stick mixer but even that often led to "mayo fail".

To sum up the tricks I know into one paragraph: Use a stick mixer. Find a tall thin jar, just big enough to get the stick mixer in. Crack the egg yolk into the bottom of the jar, add your oil and little water or vinegar and wait about fifteen minutes for the temperatures of the oil and egg to equalize before mixing; don't forget the water at this stage. If you wait to add the water after you start mixing it will be too late and no matter how long you mix it will not thicken into an emulsification.  Hold the stick mixer over the egg yolk and begin with slow pulsating mixes. Do not move it! Start with tiny slow bursts and make them longer once you see mayo beginning to form at the bottom of the jar. Once that happens you can hold the trigger on the mixer continuously but do not move it from the bottom of the jar till you see a glob of thick mayo form. Once that happens slowly rock the mixer and pull it up ever so slightly to see if you can feel the thickness sticking the mixer to the jar. Once that happens slowly pull the mixer up and down a little at a time, increasing it as it thickens till you go all the way to the top. After that you can add spices and more water or vinegar or whatever you want.

Hopefully this video will be of more help to anyone desiring to make their own home made mayonnaise. Good luck!

She makes it look so simple but really it's not. Well it is but it's kind of like riding a bicycle. Don't give up if you fail. Don't forget to let the temperatures of all the ingredients equalize and don't forget to add a little water or vinegar before you start mixing! (you can ignore this step if all your ingredients have already been sitting out on the counter.)

I don't recall seeing any kind of recipe section on here. Did I miss it? I'm going to have to hunt for some after I make this post. I would like to find some new ideas so I don't get tired of having the same thing every day. Steak tartare has killed my craving for beef jerky. Who wants to eat a piece of leather after eating that?

In a way I feel as if the beef had been cooked when it soaks in the lemon juice and spices and it doesn't even seem raw.

I'd like to try something with heart meat but all my heart in the freezer has been cut up into tiny chunks to make smoothies without properly cleaning it to be appealing. I'll have to get a fresh one and clean it properly. I've eaten sliced heart raw before, recently and as long as 30 years ago and I didn't care for it's texture. Hopefully I can discover some fancy recipe that will get me past that or mix it with some sort of vegetable to take the focus off of it.

I'd like to find more on preparing organ meats. I'm looking forward to incorporating them as part of my meal rather than chugging them down in smoothies.  I've got a hunch that maybe part of my addiction to cooked foods is mental and I just miss sitting down to a meal and eating it rather than chugging it down from a glass.

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Low histamine
« on: June 03, 2017, 12:02:52 pm »
What he said!

I've seen drastic improvements in everything since I gave up grain and dairy products. Wheat is by far the worst with corn next in line. The bulk of my diet for a long time has been only meat and green vegetables but lately I been adding in whole citrus, juicing the peelings and all and have been feeling fantastic. Before that I started juicing vegetables excessively and I think it was too much of a good thing and was noticing a slight deterioration in my health. But it was still tons better than way back when I was doing wheat and dairy. Wheat and cheese were hard to give up. I still crave them sometimes even now.

You guys must have a million recipes for tartare. Anyone got any good ones to share? I love the name. It is so politically correct. I told my girlfriend I was preparing steak tartare and she acted like it was cool because of the name. When I tell her I'm eating raw meat she just tells me how gross it is. A rose by any other name...  while the saying is technically true, it's not true at all in peoples minds. Perhaps it's time we all stopped calling it raw meat and gave everything we eat fancy names. I'm still not sure what to call my bull testicle smoothies. I just know it gives a whole new meaning to the term "juicing" at the gym!

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