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General Discussion / Re: Question on Grass-Fed
« on: March 05, 2020, 06:29:22 am »
It says "We sell cage-free grass-fed beef raised to organic standards."  But it doesn't say anywhere 100% grass-fed.  So I suppose I have to call and ask.  But given that they mention corn/soy "feed", I'm sure the cattle are not entirely grass-fed, whatever they may say. 

Why can't people just be honest? 

I feel like I have to go to the ends of the earth to try to find quality meat.

General Discussion / Question on Grass-Fed
« on: March 05, 2020, 02:23:54 am »
The website of the farm I am buying some organ meats from has this posted, and I find it contradictory:

"Grass fed beef.  We do not use Steroids, Hormones or Antibiotics to make our cattle grow faster or fatter."

Then right underneath -

"NO GMOs.  We grow ALL our feeds - corn, hay, and soybeans - from pure seeds."

Now I am suspecting that the cows aren't really grass-fed, but simply fed organic corn/soy. 

I guess I have to ask the farmer, but I need to know if this is the way grass-fed animals are finished or if cows are supposed to eat corn and soy after eating grass for a certain period?   Or is this simply someone trying to sell "grass-fed" beef that is actually NOT grass-fed at all? 

I'm still not liking the taste of liver, even their "grass-fed" kind.  But if it's not actually grass-fed, then that's something different...

Health / Re: Just one more thing to be completely healed
« on: March 03, 2020, 10:47:01 pm »
Do you know how Sabertooth dry ages his meat?  Do you just keep it uncovered in the fridge?  I also have the "mood symptoms" of candida you mentioned.

Also, would this work if I used a meat that was previously frozen?  I finally found a grass-fed farmer about 1/2 hour away from me; however his meats are all frozen and I have to thaw them. 

General Discussion / Re: Drinking Water
« on: March 03, 2020, 05:02:41 am »
I agree about being more concerned with plastics/chemicals. 

I've thought about this a lot since reading nonfiction books of people who are thruwalkers on the Appalachian Trail or similar trails.  One book I read was "On the Beaten Path" and I think that even with using water tablets to treat the water, the author still got giardia but he simply adjusted to it after sometime.  But from what I read in his book, people hiking on that trail don't eat the best diet (this book was written in the 90s, so maybe things have changed since then) - in the book the author mentioned a lot of processed foods like pizza, spaghetti, pancakes, and anything boxed or canned that lasts that they carry on the trail.  So I wonder if someone who ate a better diet would or would not be affected by the water.  Our ancestors drank the water without any ill effect somehow.

General Discussion / Drinking Water
« on: March 03, 2020, 03:56:29 am »
I'm curious about peoples' opinions on drinking from natural water sources. 

Do you think that humans can adjust to any parasites/impurities that naturally occur in untreated water?  I'm thinking about giardia lamblia as an example.

I usually drink distilled water, but then there is the concern about the plastics leaching from the gallon jugs.  Who knows how long it has been stored in that container and at what temperature.  I also realize any distilled water or filtered water would be unnatural for our ancestors.  But I suppose the filters are necessary to keep out chlorine and who knows what else that is put in water today.

People used to drink from untreated streams and wells and springs all the time, right? 

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Raw meat doku
« on: February 11, 2020, 02:34:49 am »
Hi Inger!

I'm so happy that you're posting again.  I've been reading the older posts and it's nice to hear from another female!  I'm still trying to head towards raw but have some fears and taste preferences to get over.

Hot Topics / Re: Coronavirus Fear Tactics
« on: February 03, 2020, 11:20:57 am »
From reading your post, I feel like you have almost a divine connection to nature.  How did you cultivate this?  I feel so often that I am not connected to anything, and yet it is what I want most of all. 

Hot Topics / Coronavirus Fear Tactics
« on: January 30, 2020, 09:28:15 pm »
Is anyone else so fed up with the government fear tactics regarding flu viruses?  They are definitely using it to push the government control agenda/totalitarian state. 

Every two years its a brand new boogeyman - SARS, Swine flu, West Nile virus, Zika.  Now the chinese coronavirus boogeyman. 

Another case of crying wolf.

Primal Diet / Re: Best foods to heal wrinkles and reverse ageing
« on: January 29, 2020, 11:16:53 am »
I also think that there are things beyond food that are overlooked.  Like simply being happy with your life.  I feel like being happy is something difficult to achieve in Western society (not sure where you are from); we emphasize its pursuit and achieving goals.  This gives the mindset of always thinking about the future/planning and never thinking about right now where you are.  People who are unhappy will age faster.  I think this is a big component of why the people in "blue zones" live longer - not necessarily diet but their way of life is simpler and happier; their worth isn't determined by what they externally achieve and they seem to have less stress. 
I'd like to just leave my life sometimes and go live simply....

Primal Diet / Re: Best foods to heal wrinkles and reverse ageing
« on: January 29, 2020, 11:07:35 am »
Just foods that contain vitamin C and vitamin A.  Those are the vitamins always promoted for skin health.  There is also biotin and that is best found in organ meats.

Hot Topics / Paleo Diet for Heart Disease
« on: January 29, 2020, 03:08:56 am »
This may be a hot topic, I'm not sure.
I'm curious if anyone has any sources of information on reversing heart disease with a paleo diet containing meat. 
It seems there are a lot of stories coming out about veganism harming people, I have no doubt they are true.  But the one thing that a plant-based diet does help with is heart disease reversal.  People with heart disease have benefited from plant-based diets. 
I don't believe a vegan diet is natural, though. 
So I'm wondering, if someone has heart disease or symptoms of it, how would it be remedied on a meat-containing diet?  Are there stories of reversing it with the paleo diet?  When I say heart disease I don't mean the "little symptoms" like high blood pressure (which I think is easily remedied with a paleo diet); I mean arterioscloersis - hardening of the arteries/clogged arteries.  How does one reverse this without a plant-based diet?

I was reading an old blog post today on and it said that its possible that all chronic diseases are potentially caused by infections.  So if heart disease is caused by a pathogen, then maybe the "paleo" answer would be to increase foods containing vitamins A and D because they help the immune system. 


Primal Diet / Re: Best foods to heal wrinkles and reverse ageing
« on: January 29, 2020, 03:02:55 am »
I'm interested in this as well. 

For healing wrinkles and skin aging, probably foods that contain vitamin C and vitamin A.  Vitamin C and copper help make collagen.  High vitamin C foods would oranges, broccoli, bell peppers, kiwis....
High Vitamin A are sweet potatoes and liver. 

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Omnivorous v. Carnivore
« on: January 15, 2020, 09:34:19 pm »
I'm just wondering what are everyone's thoughts on the trend of not eating any plant foods.  It seems there are so many people now who are saying that carnivore is the "human" diet.  Maybe they are just being extreme; I'm sure humanity ate some plants.  What do you think of a mixed diet for healing, like the Terry Wahls protocol? 

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Eating raw conventional supermarket meat
« on: January 13, 2020, 11:25:26 am »
I have eaten some supermarket beef liver raw and I haven't had a problem yet.  I usually just eat some small pieces.  I've also had grass-fed beef liver. 

Can't say about poultry; I'm still dipping my toes into eating like this...

Just wanted to add to the discussion that some believe copper is as important as calcium when it comes to bone strength.

There are studies on pubmed showing that copper is necessary for tooth and bone density, and a deficiency or inadequacy of copper leads to weaker bones.

One to read is "Copper deficit as a potential pathogenic factor of reduced bone mineral density and severe tooth wear," in Osteoporosis Int. 2014 Feb; 25(2) 447-54. PMID:

Copper would be in liver and internal organs. 

Interesting to note, it says in the results section there was no difference in calcium level in enamel, only copper was low in the patients with severe tooth wear compared to controls.

Off Topic / Re: Rewilding for 10 years
« on: December 17, 2019, 11:36:34 pm »
Thanks for that.  She grew up with those skills, though. 

What surprises me most is she was allowed to return to being a hermit after being in the hospital, according to the article. 

If that would have happened in the US, we have what is called the "County Agency on Aging" and they would really pressure her to live in an assisted living facility.  I could get into the money-taking scam that assisted living facilities are.... I hope to be in a different country when I'm elderly.

Off Topic / Re: Rewilding for 10 years
« on: December 17, 2019, 10:16:03 am »
That's inspiring.  I'd like to try living on my own in the woods, but it's different in a climate with four seasons and being a woman.  Also I hear the US Bureau of Land Management and the Park Service are cracking down on people who are using the wilderness for a residence...

Off Topic / Re: The vegans don't always win....
« on: December 12, 2019, 08:11:28 am »
This is the price of feminism.

The one who bore the child is the one who is responsible for it (along with dad).

I am a woman and I don't have children.  But if I did have children, I would be the one taking care of them.  That is your duty as the mother.  If you don't watch your own, then you have no one to blame but yourself.  I would defend my child with my life.  Anyone who would hurt my child would do so at their own risk.

This is why traditional values matter.

Science / Re: How money affects the mind
« on: September 21, 2019, 05:24:06 am »
It's more than that.  In a capitalist society, when you are born you don't even have the right to live.   

You are only allowed to live if you are a slave to someone else because you are not allowed to have food, water, clothing or shelter - they are owned and belong to other people and you have no right to them unless you "pay" for them.

All of our living is the "waste product of somebody else's mill" as Marge Piercy wrote.

Journals / Re: The Butcher
« on: September 18, 2019, 09:00:11 pm »
I'm just reading this and was wondering if you had any symptoms of parasites since this and what the outcome was. What did your girlfriend's colonics friend say when she examined your stool?

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Recommended Books
« on: September 17, 2019, 10:54:34 pm »
What does the title mean?  I understand guerre means war, but what about the rest?

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Recommended Books
« on: September 17, 2019, 06:59:51 pm »
Besides "We Want to Live" does anyone have book recommendations for the raw paleo diet?

I'm aware of one other book by author Melissa Henig which also discusses raw meat but I haven't read either.

Science / Re: Amazonian Tribe with Healthy Heart Despite Inflammation
« on: September 17, 2019, 06:54:53 pm »
That could be.

Science / Amazonian Tribe with Healthy Heart Despite Inflammation
« on: September 17, 2019, 07:12:34 am »’s-healthiest-hearts-—-why

The Tsimane have the healthiest hearts in the world despite high levels of inflammation.  They also have intestinal parasites. 

It seems inflammation is not the cause of heart disease and autoimmune diseases.  The Tsimane eat lean wild meats.

So many factors at play here.

General Discussion / Re: rami nagiel died of cancer.. how?..
« on: August 13, 2019, 10:13:30 pm »
I don't mean to be smart alec-y but all the people who ate organic, perfect food before there was industrialization also died.
It's just inevitable.
Some people die young, some people die old.  Some people eat crap and live a long time; while others eat perfect and get sick.
There's no fairness in life or guarantees of reward for good behavior.

You should read Albert Camus.  Everything is absurd.

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