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General Discussion / Re: Bone density, liver and kidney health
« Last post by kelpguy on Yesterday at 11:11:36 am »
i've been reading the archives for about a year and notice mostly positive posts about bone density, finger nails and teeth.

here's the results of a bone density search in lex's journal:
https://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/index.php?action=search2


i thot i was getting stiff after cutting back on my green food and fruit intake and increasing my RAF intake but i wasn't very physically active during that period so i'm not  sure if it was food or inactivity related.  and i'm really not eating all that much RAF; 3 eggs, 35g suet and a mix of ~150g; 3 parts beef, 3 pts suet, 2pts heart and 2pt kidney and liver per day.

i did notice that my finger nail growth slowed down and muscle cramps increased.  i increased salt and the cramps lessened but then my feet swelled so i reduced salt and the swelling reduced but i still get an occasional cramp; seems there's a fine line between too little and too much salt for me.

i was working in the garden this am and the ends of my finger nails rolled under so it looks like i need to make some changes in diet.
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General Discussion / Bone density, liver and kidney health
« Last post by political atheist on Yesterday at 04:21:37 am »
Hi all,

Did anybody test their bone density, kidney and liver health before beginning to eat raw animal products, especially in large quantities?

According to some authors, large amounts of proteins(both raw and cooked), above 1g/kg/day will stress the liver and kidneys and can cause bone loss, since excess aminoACIDS need to be neutralized with calcium and/or sodium(bones are the largest calcium and sodium stores)...

I am curious if anybody tested these 'metrics'

I had a period, when for a few years I ate 500g raw meat/day, 18- 30 raw eggs per day, 1 liter raw milk per day, i had no teeth issues at all, zero carries, but I did feel like all my muscles were filled with acid, I was stiff, inflexible, joints cracking a lot...

but these symptoms might not be connected to the large intake of proteins.. maybe they are the cause... who know.. this is why I ask...
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Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« Last post by sabertooth on Yesterday at 12:31:17 am »
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Health / Re: Just one more thing to be completely healed
« Last post by norawnofun on November 10, 2019, 03:51:03 am »
low dental health can have many causes, mineral deficiencies, amalgam, root canals, fillings, death teeth, braces, bacteria (sugar or fat/protein feeding), i think even misalignments. One thing that seems to be great for teeth is silica. Calcium I would be careful with. I don´t think we need as much.
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Off Topic / Re: The human need for marine environments
« Last post by centropen on November 10, 2019, 12:25:03 am »
Can confirm this, my health always improved near oceans without any intervention or lifestyle change.
same
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Health / Re: Just one more thing to be completely healed
« Last post by political atheist on November 09, 2019, 08:17:20 pm »
If you have low stomach acid then not drinking any water with a meal is the way to go IMO. I frequently read that people on a RAF diet do not touch water with their meals. Which is the way to go. I would generally refrain from "mineral" waters, regardless if I were to eat cooked or raw animal products, because their PH is high, in the range of 7-8 usually. Also because the minerals there are inorganic and harmful, distilled is healthier according to my experimentation and research. Animal products have a lower acidity content, with the exception of egg whites and goat dairy. So if you have low stomach acid production I recommend cutting these out. Egg yolk would be ok because their PH is lower, as well as cow and sheep dairy.

Some time ago I focused on foods that have a low PH, animal products and veggies including berries. Best diet I ever had for digestion. And the meats were cooked, also some of the veggies. But I did not touch any water, meaning mineral water, low ph mineral water, filtered water and even distilled water (which turns acidic when it comes into contact with CO2). The only exception I sometimes do is to drink man made carbonated water around 30 min after food, if I feel my stomach acid is too weak to digest the foods I have. Carbonated water helps increase stomach acid production pretty well. Even naturally sparkling water does, however, the carbonation content is not that high and decreases fast the more you open and close the bottle, since gas evaporates. I also did experiments with home made carbonated distilled water (putting distilled water into a sodastream), but I found it to be too aggressive and uncomfortable to my body.

I know that cooking meat removes the water content, which is why people need to drink more water, especially if they consume plenty of salt with it. But as a general suggestion I would recommend not drinking water at all before a meal, since high ph mineral water will dilute your stomach acid that you need for the upcoming food digestion, not drink it during the meal, and also wait around 30 min or so after food. That counts for all types of water.

So if you want a permanent good digestion without any issues I would say.

a) eat only acidic foods, don´t mix with alkaline in the same meal
b) do not drink before, with or right after foods, regardless of the type of water
c) eat either enough fats or enough fiber (depending on your genetical make up) with it
d) make sure that you have adequate stomach acid in general. If you don´t have find the reason for that first, before going into endless experiments. Pre-set low HCI (before you even start consuming your meal) can be caused by stress, antacid drugs and h.pylori overgrowth (which apparently half of the population have). Oral dental health is important as well.

If you have low HCI then you will have all types of health issues. thyroid issues, IBS, Crohns, parasites, candida/fungal overgrowth, weight loss, hair loss, mineral and vitamin deficiencies, which leads to every possible health problem including cancer. I think low HCI, including bad dental health, is the root cause of almost every disease on this planet. On low HCI you get a weak immune system and invite the uninvited (bad bacteria, parasites and everything else). If you can´t digest the healthiest foods in the world due to low HCI, you will never get out of your health misury.

but low dental health is calcium deficiency IMHO
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Health / Re: Just one more thing to be completely healed
« Last post by norawnofun on November 09, 2019, 07:42:52 pm »
If you have low stomach acid then not drinking any water with a meal is the way to go IMO. I frequently read that people on a RAF diet do not touch water with their meals. Which is the way to go. I would generally refrain from "mineral" waters, regardless if I were to eat cooked or raw animal products, because their PH is high, in the range of 7-8 usually. Also because the minerals there are inorganic and harmful, distilled is healthier according to my experimentation and research. Animal products have a lower acidity content, with the exception of egg whites and goat dairy. So if you have low stomach acid production I recommend cutting these out. Egg yolk would be ok because their PH is lower, as well as cow and sheep dairy.

Some time ago I focused on foods that have a low PH, animal products and veggies including berries. Best diet I ever had for digestion. And the meats were cooked, also some of the veggies. But I did not touch any water, meaning mineral water, low ph mineral water, filtered water and even distilled water (which turns acidic when it comes into contact with CO2). The only exception I sometimes do is to drink man made carbonated water around 30 min after food, if I feel my stomach acid is too weak to digest the foods I have. Carbonated water helps increase stomach acid production pretty well. Even naturally sparkling water does, however, the carbonation content is not that high and decreases fast the more you open and close the bottle, since gas evaporates. I also did experiments with home made carbonated distilled water (putting distilled water into a sodastream), but I found it to be too aggressive and uncomfortable to my body.

I know that cooking meat removes the water content, which is why people need to drink more water, especially if they consume plenty of salt with it. But as a general suggestion I would recommend not drinking water at all before a meal, since high ph mineral water will dilute your stomach acid that you need for the upcoming food digestion, not drink it during the meal, and also wait around 30 min or so after food. That counts for all types of water.

So if you want a permanent good digestion without any issues I would say.

a) eat only acidic foods, don´t mix with alkaline in the same meal
b) do not drink before, with or right after foods, regardless of the type of water
c) eat either enough fats or enough fiber (depending on your genetical make up) with it
d) make sure that you have adequate stomach acid in general. If you don´t have find the reason for that first, before going into endless experiments. Pre-set low HCI (before you even start consuming your meal) can be caused by stress, antacid drugs and h.pylori overgrowth (which apparently half of the population have). Oral dental health is important as well.

If you have low HCI then you will have all types of health issues. thyroid issues, IBS, Crohns, parasites, candida/fungal overgrowth, weight loss, hair loss, mineral and vitamin deficiencies, which leads to every possible health problem including cancer. I think low HCI, including bad dental health, is the root cause of almost every disease on this planet. On low HCI you get a weak immune system and invite the uninvited (bad bacteria, parasites and everything else). If you can´t digest the healthiest foods in the world due to low HCI, you will never get out of your health misury.
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Hot Topics / Re: Devil's Advocate
« Last post by TylerDurden on November 09, 2019, 01:26:17 am »
That is often the case, but I have sometimes eaten something raw  which contained some form of toxin and I swiftly vomited them out.The exception was some raw coconut oil which I could not force uop and gave me terrible stomach-aches until it came out the other end.
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