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Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« on: February 11, 2019, 03:00:55 pm »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6689887/Fox-Friends-host-says-washed-hands-10-years.html


Personally, given concerns re hygiene etc., I make it a point to wash my hands regularly with soap. I do NOT recommend the above behaviour unless you plan on suffering. Have a look  online at the practice of "logging" in tourists resorts and its effect on mass food-poisoning, for example.

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Very profound stuff
That's exactly why we humans can't attribute rights to an animal. We are only being who carry responsibility on this planet.
We have those rules. Each human being should be able to treat their animals how they like. In the case those animals are carried to market is responsibility of consumers to ask the farmer how the animals are treated and decide by themself if they want to support that kind of treatment. The consumer has the power. The problem strikes from the fact that modern urbanized people doesn't have a clue of how an animal should be raised, cared and treated.
Humans who are too stupid to be capable of treating their pets etc. well, should therefore not be allowed to have any rights at all over other species.  Also, I should point out that masses of humans often tend to have a collective IQ which is much lower than the  average IQ of individuals in any group(I'm thinking of  the Roman Mob as a typical example). The point being is that Nature is a far better master than any human could ever be. For example, we now have an epidemic of too many deer in the UK, but stupid farmers etc. are resisting fiercely the return of wolves and bears to deal with this issue - excess of deer ruin forests, incidentally. Check out what happened when wolves were reintroduced into Yellowstone, for example.

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That's not a problem, because our only ultimate concern should be about human health and wellbeing.
You are forgetting that everything is linked in a world ecology, here. If our ultimate concern is only for human health and wellbeing, then wiping out other species, or degrading them via dysgenics/inbreeding etc.  is not going to help us in the long term.

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Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« on: February 08, 2019, 11:03:42 pm »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6682005/Muslims-China-forced-eat-pork-drink-alcohol-Lunar-New-Year-dinners.html

Note the Chinese government forcing them to buy raw pork. A truly "rawpalaeo" notion, except for the fact that  Muslims prefer cooking their meats.

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Science / Another idiotic humanocentric so-called "palaeo" notion debunked
« on: February 08, 2019, 07:48:34 am »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6679525/The-fish-recognise-mirror.html

I've had issues before with various people claiming that we humans have innate rights over other species, so that, for example, it does not matter how badly we treat the animals we eat, as we are supposedly  ordained by God etc. to rule over them, because we are somehow  uniquely different. I have shown time and again, that there is no obvious set of  differences between animals and humans, that even plants are extremely complex in their behaviour, that it is very important how we treat animals as the result of sick, poorly-kept animals is always reflected in the poor nutrition of their meats/milks,thus affecting our own health etc.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello from Portugal
« on: February 08, 2019, 07:12:39 am »
Check the first comment for an idea:-

https://www.chowhound.com/post/raw-milk-lisbon-931076


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Primal Diet / Re: High meat question about lack of airing
« on: February 07, 2019, 03:32:21 am »


Also, TylerDurden, when you say:
The idea was that the Inuit got botulinism from storing raw meats underground for too long

Could you explain what you mean by that?  Do you mean that it was their intent to get botulism? 

I understand from AV that all bacteria is good.  So why would we single out botulism? 

Thanks

The idea is that aerobic bacteria is good but anaerobic bacteria is bad. And, no, of course, the Inuit are not looking to get botulinism, it is just that there are some stories/studies about Inuit getting botulinism from eating raw aged meat stored underground, on occasion.

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Off Topic / Re: Spoilt Vegans...
« on: February 06, 2019, 03:28:43 am »
Sorry, fixed the issue. I got distracted.

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Off Topic / Spoilt Vegans...
« on: February 05, 2019, 06:45:46 pm »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-6665371/Vegans-claim-snubbed-waiters.html

Ridiculous, really. There are plenty of vegan cafes after all, these days.


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Primal Diet / Re: High meat question about lack of airing
« on: February 05, 2019, 12:52:19 pm »
The idea was that the Inuit got botulinism from storing raw meats underground for too long. I myself find that I cannot get a real effect from just 1 marble-sized portion of high-meat, so  I always eat at least a cubic inch of raw high-meat, and often even whole platefuls of the stuff. I do not agree with Aajonus on this issue. As regards the main question, I have often left  raw meats in vacuum-packed plastic in the fridge for several days(up to 5) before they went bad(generally after 7 days they turned toxic in taste and I avoided them thereafter. Outside the fridge, I have left raw meats buried underground in a hot Mediterranean summer  for 2-3 days at a time  without issue, but I always used reasonably large plastic boxes which had 50% of the contents  of the  box consisting of air.  Basically, if there's plenty of air with the high-meat and the temperature isn't too hot, it's not the end of the world, imo, leave high-meat out for a few days.

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Primal Diet / Re: difference between primal raw diet vs paleo??
« on: February 05, 2019, 12:44:33 pm »
True enough. I note that others have stolen the "raw paleo" label such as raw vegans and even sellers of beef jerky. I even noticed a box from some supplement firm which was labelled "raw paleo" in my local supermarket. Incidentally, Billa, Merkur and, to a lesser extent, Lidl, have become marvellous in the Austrian supermarket scene, now offering grassfed meats, a very wide range of organ-meats, along with  raw wild game etc.Merkur is the best of them all.

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Primal Diet / Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano
« on: February 05, 2019, 03:30:57 am »
In  my early days when I still consumed raw dairy, I had no problem with salted raw dairy. After all, they want to prolong the product's existence somewhat. As long as one is not consuming other salted products, I don't see the problem. The trouble also is with various countries' laws - for example, the UK allows honey to be labelled raw as long as it is "only" heated for a short time to 80 degrees Celsius, which is ridiculous.

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Primal Diet / Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano
« on: February 04, 2019, 03:33:58 am »
He also said most commercially produced so-called raw cheeses aren't really raw
That is partially true as some so-called "raw" cheeses  , such as "Pont-L'Eveque" are actually partially pasteurised.  But if one does one's research, one can find  genuinely raw cheeses.

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Off Topic / Re: Can Raw Paleo help in overcoming Drinking Addiction?
« on: January 31, 2019, 07:56:39 pm »
Other than dpl's excellent suggestions, I would also recommend eating high-meat before or after the alcohol to negate the effect. Oh, and milk-thistle is a useful herb to detox the liver.

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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 27, 2019, 03:07:50 pm »
The sheer low quality and pervasiveness of school food is a solid argument in favour of homeschooling.

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