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So as not to confuse people(mainly newbies), please keep discussion of cooked foods in the hot topics forum. Hmm, or the Westen-price Forum, of course.

Not that that is a guarantee, the LFM markets allow farms up to 250 km from London to participate.

The LFM markets are designed with Weston Price in mind.Unlike Sally Fallon they are usually very reliable.Admittedly, organic means little in the uk and there are some small farmers who produce raw meat far superior to many grassed meat farmers but you are exaggerating a bit.

The LFM markets are quite safe.There is raw wild hare available and raw wildcaught  seafood among other things.

Check out the LFM (London Farmer’s Market website) The Marylebone farmer’ market is the best and usually has several grass fed meat stalls and 1 great fishmonger’s/fisherman.There is also a stall offering leg of lamb.Bear in mind that all LFM stalls are as good as or often better than organic equivalents.Being certified organic is very costly so the poorer farmers are disadvantaged on this issue.

Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« on: March 08, 2019, 11:15:42 pm »

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 08, 2019, 09:58:53 pm »
I rarely drink fruit juices anyway, and only eat a very wide variety of raw foods such as they did in palaeo times. Scientific studies have shown a very wide  variety in the palaeolithic human' diet, despite your laughable claims. No one is claiming 365 days a year, as famine and storms and droughts existed in thsoe times, but, quite obviously, the abasurd  very retsricted modern diets, such as the primal diet, could never have been adhered to in paleolithic times. What you forget is that, prior to agriculture,  mankind had not destroyed as much as the world's surface as later on, so that vast areas would have contained a myriad amount of fruits, albeit not as high in sugar as now, and also a wide variety of honey and wild game.

Oh, and chewing with human teeth obviously cannot compare to the chewing power of sheep given the latters'  teeth are all designed by nature to only chew grass and other plant foods. And juicing exerts way more pressure/cutting power than either.

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 08, 2019, 04:45:00 pm »
Just equivocation as chewing is not the same as juicing. Besides, non-herbivores have no reason to chew plant foods.They simply don't have all the teeth necessary for thet. GCB was not perfect and did indeed recommend sweet fruits himself and even recommend against raw meats at one time, but his actual Instincto philosophy of eating only via taste/instinct is correct. The claim re people eventually only eating raw sweet fruits is nonsense - would only apply to rvaf diet beginners who never go in for much variety so never get used to raw meats. I can see that given my own experience.  For example, I find the taste of raw fatty animal flesh(of high enough quality) to taste far better than raw sweet fruits. The only reason I do not do a 100% raw zero carb diet is that other experiments showed a dramatic increase in brainpower and a steady drop in physical stamina until c. 21 days, when suddenly my health would plummet and my hunger would  be unsated by raw animal foods, thus leading me by instinct back to  an omnivorous rvaf diet low in carbs and high in raw meats. OH, and I still far prefer the taste of raw fruit juices than any raw veggie-juices, even things like cucumber etc.(I have tried a large number of variations over time).

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 08, 2019, 06:51:08 am »
GCB in his wisdom banned raw veggie juice in the first place as juicing is a process and he only recommended unprocessed foods. GCB was nothing like AV, imo.

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 08, 2019, 02:21:18 am »
You can claim whatever you want, but don't say AV's advise regarding veggie juice is bad when you did exactly what he said not to do, in larger amounts than he recommended, and got the results he said you would get by doing what you did.

In synthesis, your juice was too strong and you had too much of it. Of course you were going to have issues.
Yes I know, AV said the same sort of nonsense about my issues with raw dairy, that I had not warmed the raw milk before I drank it or not fermented it or whatever. I tried all those methods, and, of course, none of them worked. As regards the issues that people have, all I have stated is the truth that raw dairy is the raw food that rvafers have the biggest incidence of problems with and raw veggie juice is the 2nd worst in this regard.

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:58:33 am »
I'm aware of many of AV's recommendations against fruits. He was wrong.And, like I said, we are neither herbivores like sheep with their superior chewing ability  nor do we obtain as much antinutrients by chewing than a juicer does. Anyway, my selfdiagnosis re veggie-juice  is rather more likely to be correct since I had similiar experiences with raw ox liver(grassfed) and to raw suet. Besides, tastewise, fruits are better than antinutrient-rich  raw vegetables , and, since taste/instinct works better for me  as a path to health... I guess, GCB was right in his basic concept re instincts.

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 07, 2019, 11:15:08 pm »
Juicing exerts far more pressure and really cuts into the cell-membranes, thus releasing more antinutrients/nutrients than chewing. Bear also in mind that we do not have the kind of chewing power re teeth etc. that herbivores like sheep do.

Back in my PD group days, I used to encounter a large number of Primal Dieters who would consume more than a pint a day of raw veggie juice.As regards the veg I used for raw veggie juice, it was a wide choice of carrots, radishes, but mostly greener veg like kale cucumber or whatever. It was a long time ago, so memory isn't great. I will agree that I never had issues with raw fruit juices.

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 07, 2019, 10:04:10 pm »
 A slow juicer is rather more extreme than chewing re pressure . Besides, most people don't spend ages chewing plant foods.

Re my raw veggie juice experience:- I had 1 pint of raw veggie juice a day for several days - I also tried other times when I drank less a day or more a day, but not all at the same time . Obviously, I have had diarrhea many other times pre-rpd diet and in the first 2-3 days of going rvaf, but this is irrelevant since the diarrhea I got in my raw veggie juice experiments always happened within 30-60 minutes afterwards. The way I see it, given my other experiments with eating only raw liver every other week, is that my body did not want the nutrients in the raw veggie juice and so got rid of them  pronto via diarrhea. Also, a real detox does not occur every time one consumes a specific food, detoxes are usually random.

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 07, 2019, 05:00:05 pm »
Can't remember, I only get farmed  skinless smoked salmon over here, so avoid that like the plague.

Science / Re: Neanderthal sticky thread
« on: March 07, 2019, 04:41:28 pm »
Neanderthals = white people
Well they had white skin, that's all.

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 07, 2019, 03:08:15 am »
Interesting. Would the appearance of rashes or itching be considered an allergic response to dairy?
Yes, indeed, but there are, unfortunately, a myriad different possible symptoms. The trouble with allergies is that the symptoms can be fast-acting or very slow-acting with very small symptoms gradually increasing in severity over many years.  Lucky people get fast-acting symptoms shortly after consuming the foods they are allergic to. Unfortunate people like me can get very, very slow-acting symptoms which can take weeks/months/years to appear. Anyway, I, among other conditions,  built up constant inflammation of the skin due  to (raw or pasteurised dairy consumption), getting "prickly heat", rashes, itching, small pains(so that I could not sleep on my left side for years). All one can do, I'm afraid, is to do long-term experiments to see what works. I would recommend ditching the dairy for 6 months to see if that works for you. Basically, raw dairy is not an essential food and I have seen a number of studies which suggest that dairy reduces ones' lifespan over time, among other things, so that even those who do well on raw dairy in the short-term should be concerned.

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 06, 2019, 08:45:24 pm »
Alright, I’ll keep that in mind. I appreciate your input.

You mentioned that raw dairy is the 2nd worst problem people experience. Could you detail what exactly is happening that makes it debilitating for them to continue to consume milk — to the point where they abandon dairy, or milk for that matter?
Raw dairy can cause multiple problems:- hormonal issues, calcium-related issues  etc. But the main problem is allergy/food-intolerance  to raw dairy. The way I see it, many people on cooked diets have so many toxins that their bodies are overwhelmed and cannot deal with other issues well. As soon as they switch to a RVAF diet, their bodies can finally deal with the other issues such as raw dairy. Food-intolerance/allergy can be hidden on a cooked diet. For example, many schizophrenic patients have had their symptoms reduce or disappear after avoiding consumption of grains and dairy, without even converting to raw foods. At any rate, in the heydays of AV/Primal Diet, there would be endless examples of people who would report getting negative symptoms soon  after consuming raw dairy, which they would, via AV's advice, wrongly label as detox. Basically,  detox does exist BUT if one always gets negative symptoms soon after consuming a certain food but not from others, then it cannot be detox but is a sign of something else, usually allergy,

Hot Topics / Vegan babies
« on: March 06, 2019, 10:47:37 am »

Hmm, technically, the babies cannot be vegan if they are breastfed but still....

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 06, 2019, 10:43:09 am »
AV was often wrong and not in tune with the real experiences of most RVAFers. In the case of raw veggie juice, DPL is, of course, wrong. Juicing breaks down the cell-walls , thus making not only the nutrients but also the antinutrients  in raw vegetables far more bioavailable. Incidentally, I got diarrhea, too, after consuming raw veggie-juice.

Fasting is an excellent idea, imo. Intermittent Fasting has a lot of scientific studies showing its benefits, in terms of extra longevity etc. You see, when not constantly digesting, the body finally has an opportunity to detox. This is especially important if one is eating a cooked-food diet, as the body gets an unusual extra opportunity to get rid of the toxins it has absorbed from cooked foods over the years. Also, bear in mind that wild animals routinely go in for fasting, as part of their lives. Basically, autophagy during fasting allows the body to get rid of cancerous cells, toxins et al. So, eating all the time, however raw or palaeo, is not going to help at all.

As regards AV or any other guru, I should point out to you that no human can possibly be perfect and so no one man's advice can ever  be 100% correct for anybody, let alone everyone. This is even more important  when one considers that everybody is different genetically with different allergies/immunities, different metabolisms etc. etc. Another piece of advice is to be especially wary of any RVAF diet guru who is asking for cash. Once they are cash-oriented, there is always some profit-related motive as to why they do not promote a genuinely healthy approach to a client, and instead encourage constant overeating or buying food  from selected, corrupt businesses  etc.. I'm thinking of AV, Sally Fallon and many others, over the years.After all, if a client gets healthy, they don't need to pay the guru any more....

I follow GCB's advice re never combining raw plant foods and raw animal foods together, and it has worked wonders for me. Whenever I do the opposite, I get side-effects.

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 06, 2019, 04:19:02 am »
Interesting. I definitely noticed the lack of bowel movement, but in the beginning I was having at least once every day, or rarely every other day. I do believe in the idea that the body must be digesting foods more efficiently, thus contributing to the almost complete absorption of the nutrients. I have yet to try high meat but I’ve been tempted to do it. I never thought about consuming plant foods, as they have the anti-nutrients and we can’t digest the fiber anyway. That’s the only reason why I consider kimchi, as the vegetables are already fermented for us. I’ll buy some in the market right now and see what happens. But I’d much rather keep looking for solutions in the animal kingdom.
  Do NOT try raw veggie juices. They are the 2nd-worst problem that RVAFers experience(raw dairy is the worst). I once tried raw veggie juice and got green diarrhea c.30 minutes after drinking the stuff. The general idea is that juicing not only breaks down the cell-walls to release many more nutrients, but also similiarly releases more of the antinutrients as well. If you do try them, then mind the usual caution of never drinking more than 1 pint of raw veggie juice.

Primal Diet / Re: Constipation
« on: March 06, 2019, 03:21:27 am »
Blood in the stool sounds bad. I had that a lot pre-RPD diet. Why not try to consume more raw plant food in your diet. Also, another point is that raw ketogenic types reported hardly ever having stools - this was not constipation, just a matter of the body digesting 99% of the raw animal food. Not sure re this, but I also noticed a total lack of no2s/stools when I didseveral days of only eating only high-meat.

Off Topic / World's most polluted cities
« on: March 06, 2019, 03:13:49 am »

Health is not only about diet but also other aspects such as where one lives...... However, given that the 2 main toxic components of car-exhaust fumes are also 2 of the 5  heat-derived toxins created by cooking, I imagine we RVAFers are less affected by air-pollution since we have less of a toxin-load and are better able to detox the smaller amounts of toxins that we do get.

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