You wouldn't use anywhere near the amount that is used when chemical salts are applied and not with the same frequency either.

Anyways the coconut I picked for Jessica was no where near the ocean and all those trees were growing semi wild in the woods. There is an island I would go to where they said not to pick the coconuts because the trees were treated for a disease, most of which were right on the coast. I'm not sure if this was for cosmetic reasons or not. I think some areas perhaps coconuts only grow near the ocean because the soil inland is not ideal for them. At one time most of Florida was basically one gigantic coral reef so the soil is largely made up of ancient coral, which is probably pretty decent coconut substrate. Dates will grow right by the ocean too.

Jessica, I'm pretty sure that unfortunate critter was a seal, I think the sea lions who appeared to be checking us out were two or three or so times the size of the carcass we were examining. I wanted to be diving myself for whatever the lions were diving for but you know they are more than twice the size of actual lions and are a favorite prey species of great whites and orca so spending much time in the water didn't seem like the best idea, especially after I bled my toe pretty good lol.

Chickens, pigs and other livestock raised on coconut will have healthy fat with similar anti microbial properties as coconuts.

Its also unnatural having grass fed animals in feed lots eating cut hay, but this is the state of affairs in the modern world of paleo dieting. There is no avoiding having cultivated foods.

Human life does center around humanity, and maintaining a world with 9 billion large brained supper apes requires a lot of resources, but I insist that coconut grooves if done properly have very little environmental impact, unlike the other monocrops. You are also able to grow coconuts in places where cattle can graze around the trees.

Small scale manageable plots of coconut trees sustainably harvested along the tropical coastland is a far less environmentally damaging prospect than you are making it out to be.

https://locavoredelmundo.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/coconuts-a-sustainable-agricultural-industry/

I agree except that anyone growing "grassfed" "finished" meat from animals raised primarily in feedlots isn't going to have a high margin of profit as a great deal of the gross will be consumed by the vast increase of expense feeding mechanically harvested and stored feeds. This kind of farmer is probably already a hay farmer and is using livestock to increase the value of his hay. The farmer who is serious about producing high quality grass finished animals is probably going to be raising the animals the majority of the time on quality pasture. In harsher colder environments, longer dormant seasons are greater compensated by higher quality forages during longer days in what is often a longer growing season. However livestock can be raised on pasture forages year round in most climates. There is a purple cow association dedicated to instructing cattle growers how to finish the highest grade cattle on the highest grade organic pastures year round in almost any climate.

The human brain has shrunk as much as 20% in the past 20'000 years. How can 5 or 6 generations be good measure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeTQtzkpLQQ Bill Mollison's Global Gardener series episode 1 the tropics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkPtYO27L3Y Episode 2 Dry lands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p4F8tSqiec Episode 3 Cool climates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF9IgvjCv84 Episode 4 Urban
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZDnKwHQBp8 This is a video out of a series called "what if we change" with guest Geoff Lawton developed and coined the term "Permaculture with Bill Mollison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhOJRJAuyEs Larry Korn talks about Fukuoka Sensai
http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change?language=en Allan Savory talks about how livestock can stop global warming and revitalize landscapes and local economies.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6HGKSvjk5Q This is a slide presentation with Greg Judy about actually building soil with cattle while producing superior grass fed beef.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePCqDOLUTvU  This is a presentation by Vandana Shiva about "Living as Earth Community"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hftgWcD-1Nw This is a video of a 2000 year old food forest in Morocco in the middle of the desert with tropical fruit growing in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaQ3hXkXVjY This is Joel Salatin he has lots of videos about his innovative grass fed farm in Vermont. He is one of the most profitable farms in Vermont and produces beef of higher quality and cheaper than probably anyone in Vermont.

Hydroponics and lab grown meat will be 100% much more expensive than naturally grown beyond any shadow of a doubt. The only reason you could possibly conceive otherwise is because of inflated property values, failure agricultural models and cheap readily available energy that is causing environmental harm. You still have to mine for and manufacture solar panels. None of this stuff is free. Even if what you say is true it just gives purchase for humans to create even more cities, keep rapidly increasing population and destroying the earth. It's like scientists forgot that perpetual motion machines don't exist and can't exist. Where are all these minerals and nutrients coming from? What form are they in? Are they synthetic or natural?

There is no free lunch.

Humans are never going to be able to beat the food production that nature is capable of, that can sustain us and laboratory technology will never beat natural nutrition without directly exploiting nature. Where do these nutrients come from to grow this meat?

We don't need all of these snake oil technologies, we already have all the answers we need, there are people who are paving the way for a better future right now, it's just not enough people are listening to them. We need to stop trying to be creator. Creation is already here, we need to stop being destroyer and start working with the planet because we are part of the planet. We can redeem ourselves to truly be the higher being on earth we think that we are or could be. We have the knowledge and ability and very simple technology to make the earth yield more than it did before we got here. We can turn the deserts back into grasslands and jungles. We could bring on another ice age if we wanted to. The problem is the vast majority of people are completely ignorant and afraid of what they do not know and the people in power are insane.

I just don't think people in our industry should be slinging shit at each other. I feel WAPF has been guilty of this as well.

http://www.exposingtruth.com/new-un-report-finds-almost-no-industry-profitable-if-environmental-costs-were-included/#ixzz3X7tzZS2h

The whole political show is always hysterical and now a days with social media it is worse than ever. All I hear on my facebook account from politically motivated people I know is either ALL LIVES MATTER IS RACIST because of esoteric reasons like supposedly more black people are murdered by cops than white people, while other people are saying BLACK LIVES MATTER IS RACIST because it is ignoring that there are Native Americans and Latinos getting murdered by cops too, but most people don't care about white people and basically think if you are mad white people are getting murdered by cops you are RACIST LOL.

Personally I am tired if the R word. No just because I am white does not mean if I say something slightly ignorant I am a racist bigot. And mabee I might even say something racist and I really have every right to because I am a human being and I don't think I should be hated cause I said one racist thing on occasion. Because you know what racism means? "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races." Now that especially is tricky because you may not have meant to distinguish as inferior or superior but it will certainly be interpreted as such. Like for instance I once said, I wouldn't want to move to mexico because I might get robbed because of the high crime rate. I was denounced as a racist. But to really get to my point, the problem with constantly throwing around the R word is that the real racists who think they are superior, you know what is special about them? Nothing you can do is going to change their mind. You could be the Albert Einstein of sociology and racism and you couldn't crack their thick skulls. They are too stupid, they can't be helped. They are basically zombies.

I feel we are all one, I don't hate anyone, even the people I probably should hate.

America is a country founded in protest, it's our tradition. The price of living has skyrocketed, inflation has been going on, poor people in America are facing tougher times than they have in a long time, in some ways ever. We are also lazy and stupid but it is getting a lot harder to do that and still live well. So naturally a lot of people are up in arms. It seems like the biggest craze right now however is making it a racial issue, but it isn't just a racial issue, it's a national economic issue. It seems the media is helping this along, they are owned by the corporations who are responsible for much of the oppression DONTCHAKNOW.

Something I thought of GS was talking about wanting America to act on China. Don't expect a repub to do anything regarding China. Republicans are spoiled children who fight for what they want, not to protect anyone's interests but their own. The U.S. War record post World War 2 is total proof of that. Nothing but thuggery and international looting. Of course this is true well before WW2 and no doubt throughout the entire history of U.S.

Hey don't take my word for it, here it is from the horses mouth.

“I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
? Smedley D. Butler, War is a Racket: The Antiwar Classic by America's Most Decorated Soldier

Smedley Darlington Butler[1] (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940) was a United States Marine Corps major general, the highest rank authorized at that time, and at the time of his death the most decorated Marine in U.S. history

"myths of black victimization". Who do you get your information from, Fox News? 60% of American male prison inmates are black. The U.S. has 25% of the worlds incarcerated people. There are a million black people in jail in this country. The truth of the matter is that slavery never truly ended in the "land of the free".