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Health / Re: ALL VACCINES are dangerous to human health. Reject them ALL.
« on: October 22, 2009, 03:16:33 pm »
Interesting.  So many of these diseases were already on the decline.  But if there is nothing substantial to the idea of inoculation (vaccinations aside), then why have certain diseases like polio and small pox all but disappead?  I guess I would still suspect there to be a small number of people still contracting these various diseases if immunizations were completely ineffective.  I mean, people still do eat bad food all over the world, and sanitary conditions are not necessarily kept even in America. 

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Off Topic / Re: Modern Men are wimps!
« on: October 22, 2009, 10:28:35 am »
The bones don't lie.  If they're built thicker and stronger that even our modern elite athletes, there's a reason for it.  Doesn't just happen.  Also, there's the course of devolution to consider.  Civilization and technology in general makes possible the survival of people that would otherwise have been weaker and died off.  From an intelligence and physical standpoint, we've had 10,000 yrs of devolution occuring b/c of civilization.  We haven't had much else to go except backwards.

Combine their optimal diet with the fact that most every human back in paleo times would have spent as much, if not more time in intense physical activity/training as any modern athlete, you have a recipe for an incredibly strong and hardy people as a whole.  Yes we may have 7 billion to choose from, but how many are actually on a decent (not even optimal) diet?  And of those, how many train in the volume you would have back in paleo times? 

And even if there are a few people equally as strong, they are the rare exception.  And probably 1/2 of those are b/c of performance enhancers anyways.

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Health / Re: ALL VACCINES are dangerous to human health. Reject them ALL.
« on: October 22, 2009, 10:16:34 am »
I'm really divided personally on the whole vaccination thing.  They apparently do prevent a host of diseases.  The basic premise behind them seems reasonable to me, even from a paleo perspective: you introduce very small amounts of live pathogens to your body, so it can have the proper antibodies in order to be easily prepared when a large amount of that same pathogen happens to get in your system.

Only problem is all the other crap in the vaccinations are causing all kinds of damage to us, our children, causing autism, and who knows what kind of compounded/propogated effects generations later.  And if I understand correctly, a lot of times it's not even live pathogen, it's something synthesized.  I would bet that all of us have somewhat reduce mental capacity for having had a host of vaccines, especially at such an age where the mind is developing.    

Not only that, and I might get reamed for saying this, I don't consider higher rates of disease induced mortality (naturally of course) a bad thing.  I tend to think we are (have) overpopulated our planet.  And we are definitely in the process of de-evolving b/c so many people who are weak and ill adapted for survival are busy propogating their genes.  Hell, who knows I may rightfully belong in that group (altho I'm not busy reproducing).  

Point is, I think it would be better for humanity as a whole, and ultimately MORE humane to let diseases run their course and kill off the weak.  Look at the growing numbers of autistic children.  Why should we trade vibrant life (for those who would survive disease), for dull life just to make sure everyone survives?        

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Off Topic / Re: What are you listening to?
« on: October 21, 2009, 09:56:42 am »
Nah, Valerie Plame was an outed CIA agent during the Bush administration.  They're not really political, they have more of a Renaissance/Shakespearean theme.  Although in their last album (The Crane Wife) they have a song called "Oh Valencia." 

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Hot Topics / Ardipithecus
« on: October 12, 2009, 02:30:02 pm »
You guys ever check out one of the earliest hominids - ardipithecus?  Pretty cool stuff.  She lived about 4.5 mya predating lucy by 1 million years, was bipedal, but also had grasping fingers on her feet.  Brain about the same size as a chimp. 

It was always assumed that bipedalism developed in African savannahs, but apparently this view has been overturned b/c the areas in which this hominid are found were all covered by forest.  So basically bipedalism first developed in the forest as opposed to the grasslands.  Paleontologists speculate a number of reasons.  Hands to carry: foraged food back to women/kids, tools, babies.  There are other advantages that probably refined our bipedal nature as climate and our location changed, but it looks like these were the original stimuli for bipedalism. 

And on a side note, I would guess that we began using tools at least as early.  2 reasons - first chimps have demonstrated ability to use tools, and two, it appears to be part of the reason why bipedalism developed.  Kind of cool to think we've been using tools for over 4.5 millions years.  Who knows if this particular line of hominids actually developed in to modern humans, but no doubt this still gives all kind of insight into our development.

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General Discussion / Re: underweight
« on: October 12, 2009, 01:57:26 pm »
That's interesting Phil.  What were you eating for carbs when you tried?  You said you were already eating alot of carbs and tried to add more.  Was that before raw meat?  Have you tried adding some simple stuff like tomatoes, bell peppers, coconut water, or honey with meat?  Or have you tried any fruits in conjunction with workouts?  Or were you eating more along the lines of more fibrous plant matter like broccoli, carrots, asparagus, etc? 

I can see how if you tried to get alot of carbs in the form of vegetables that you could easily lose weight.  I tried it for just a couple weeks about 2 years ago, and I lost weight b/c I couldn't get enough calories on veggies, and my stomach was always hurting. 

I guess with so many overweight people (b/c of excess carbs with fat), I would think that losing weight when adding carbs is more of an exception, though I'm not discounting your experiences.

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Off Topic / Re: What are you listening to?
« on: October 12, 2009, 09:55:39 am »
The Decemberists.  Album, Hazards of Love.  Their best work to date.  The whole album is sort of an epic story, each character has their own 'song' if you will, that gets repeated in differing variations throughout.

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General Discussion / Re: How much sleep do you get a night?
« on: October 12, 2009, 09:32:08 am »
I do like total dark when I sleep, but I'm not sure how "paleo" that is.  If you've ever been out where the stars are abundant, you will find the sky to be surprisingly bright.  There's also the moon 1/2 the time.

I'm a pretty healthy guy and I need 8.5-9.5 hrs every night.  Even when doing the diet perfect for months on end.  I'm sure if I got 6 or 7 hrs/night for a few months that I would adapt to it, but not sure if it would be ideal.  I just don't buy in to the whole detox thing.  I mean, yes, it is a possible factor for needing more sleep, but I think being athletic/active factors in, as well as studying and internalizing new information.  Studies show that you recall new information better if you have slept.  I tend to think it's possible that learning may necessitates extra sleep.

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General Discussion / Re: underweight
« on: October 12, 2009, 09:17:43 am »
Carbs will be first used for energy, second stored as glycogen in the muscles and liver, and only last are they converted to fats - this happens when either muscle glycogen is full, or you've eaten too many carbs in one sitting.

I get carbs from fruits and veggies, and occasionally I will eat some grains, but only AFTER a good workout.  I know grains are neither paleo nor all that healthy, but they are just so darn good for insulin response and storing glycogen in muscles.  I do eat raw meat about 95% of time. 

[personal opinion - carbs, even cooked, tend to remain just carbs.  Not really any extra toxins or whatever.  Meat however, the fats are so complex, varied, and heat sensitive, they change significantly and create toxins.  Thus I see eating cooked carbs as being moderately okay - if done in conjunction with intense workouts - and cooked meat/fats as being a culprit for the slow destruction of the body.  Insulin resistance also destroys the body, but intense workouts increase insulin sensitivity so it balances out if you do it right] 

If you have messed up digestion, I'm not really sure how all this factors in.  I would definitely recommend separating your carbs and protein.  If you're looking to put on weight, you might try eating a good amount of carbs (something that doesn't upset your stomach), wait 20-30 mins, and then eat some really fatty meat.  That way you can get protein/fat in the body while your insulin levels are still elevated, w/o the problems of protein vs carb digestion.

Also, I guess some people here do really well on ground beef, I do not.  It took me a few months of cycling between feeling fine, and diarhea/poor digestion to figure out it was the ground beef.  My theory is that since it's already ground into a mush, it passes from the stomach to the intestines without having the full acid/digestive treatment by the stomach.  Either way, I haven't had stomach issues since I cut out the ground beef. 

One last thing, if you eat fat with carbs, you WILL put on weight, most of it fat.  B/c now you have an insulin response which tells your body to store anything in the blood stream, and there is fat in the blood stream. 

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General Discussion / Re: underweight
« on: October 11, 2009, 11:58:27 am »
Gaining weight is simple:

Eat often
Eat MORE than just being full.  Almost like a kid and ice cream.   
EAT CARBS!  And eat them with, or at least close to, your meat/fat. 
Lift weights, lift heavy, get near to/achieve muscle failure often
Eat ALOT
Eat MORE than just being full.   
Get plenty of and good sleep at night.

Eating the 'right' type of fat, or more fat, etc might not (probably won't) do much to help you gain.  Excess calories and carbs will - they force your body to absorb b/c of insulin response.

When I'm trying to put on weight, I eat plenty of carbs, and I eat often throughout the day.  In glucose metabolism, carbs burn quickly and your body will quickly pull protein to synthesize carbs if you haven't eaten in a while (which would be the opposite of the goal to put on muscle - good weight). 

When I'm trying to lose fat, I eat very few carbs to get back in to ketosis, and eat only a couple times in the day.  In ketosis, the body pulls fat for energy sparing the protein, so you lose fat not muscle.  However, it's hard to gain muscle this way b/c you don't have the anabolic effect of insulin like you do when eating carbs often.   

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General Discussion / Re: Acne and Paleo Diet
« on: October 07, 2009, 10:04:23 am »
It was one of the first things to clear up when I changed diet (within a week or two).  I never had acne, but at 24, I still had 3-5 medium to large pimples on my face.  Now I only have 1-2 very small ones.   

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Off Topic / Re: The social side of you?
« on: September 22, 2009, 06:46:23 am »
When anyone new asks about my raw steak (we get alot of visitors where i work), I tell them that it'll grow hair on your chest.  They usually laugh, and I'll tell them, 'well you know how they tell you it's good to eat raw fruits and vegetables?'  Of course they say yes, and I ask them why that is, and of course you get some standard answers.  I tell them, 'so it's the exact same thing with meat.'

Next question:  arent you afraid of bacteria, and I just tell them I've been doing it for 2 years now, and I'm doing just fine.  If there's any more interest, they will persue, if not, I leave it at that.

Restaurants are easy.  Raw fish, rare steak.  Just tell them you want it about 15-30 secs on each side.  And tell them 3 times just how rare you're talking.  Otherwise they get it wrong.  Also, you can hand them a $5 and say 'give this to the cook, and please tell him just how rare I would like my steak.'

I think most guys will be okay with it.  Some are girlie men with no stomach, and will be grossed out like a school girl.  You don't want to be with him anyways.  But hell, some of it may rev their gears a little.  ;)

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Health / Re: What's your Body Mass Index? BMI?
« on: September 22, 2009, 06:29:01 am »
BMI is 24.8.  
Bodyfat about 10-12% (fluctuates)

Not sure how much stock I put in BMI, look at almost any athlete, they are almost all over BMI.  ^ I can already see the deluge of replies about how they might not be our best role models.  

Personally, I'm shooting to get into the 'overweight' category. And maintain about 8% body fat.  After that I want to learn gymnastics.

I cycle between low carb raw meat eating, and moderate carb for quick recovery.  

Raw meat / RPD for almost 2 years now.

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General Discussion / Re: mTOR and protein threshold
« on: September 22, 2009, 06:16:53 am »
I have read that our cells have DNA instructions that they can only divide and reproduce for so long before they cannot anymore.  I think this is one of the hurdles with genetic cloning, and why clones have short lives. 

If you are an elite athlete, constantly regenerating cells, or if you are eating alot and putting on weight, I can see how this would decrease longevity. 

I have to say I'm suspect of the 40-50g a day of protein.  Seems pretty low, especially in the absence of carbs. 

Lol, the article actually makes me want to eat more consistently more often so I can keep up the mTOR. 

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Liver has a huge amount of copper.  It has fair amounts of zinc, phosphorous, and iron as well.  Not nearly as much zinc as oysters, but still decent.

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General Discussion / Re: How much sleep do you get a night?
« on: September 13, 2009, 08:35:44 am »
I sleep on the floor for the last 2 yrs. Even got the gf to do it. Worked wonders for
neck and back pain. We do a modified version tho, sleep on carpet with a couple comforters thrown down. Still better than bed. 

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: strongman
« on: September 11, 2009, 10:48:35 am »
Their form looks bad to you. You'll lose form when you're lifting near to max effort.

The form looks bad to me b/c it is bad.  You do lose form at max, but it should be in the fullness of contraction, not moving in ways that are very dangerous.

  There are a couple different styles to squatting. Every lifter has different hip/back mobility. They have to choose one that'll help them get low enough to get the green light in a competition meet.

There are different styles, but that in no way means those styles are are safe.  Most every person should (ideally) have almost the same hip/back mobility:: in reference to the squat, feet a little more than shoulder width apart, feet pointing straight or nearly straight ahead, head up, feet flat on ground weight equal on toes and balls of feet all the way down till thighs are nearly parallel to the floor.  Many people can't do this b/c they have overactive/underactive and not flexible enough muscles.   

It's called Boxed squat. Helps your body get used to being under heavy weight & strengthening the assisting muscles for squats.

And the sudden stop (like the guys in the video are doing) puts alot of strain on the spine.  Additionally, if the lower back comes out and the butt comes in, as opposed to maintaining the natural s curve of the spine, it misaligns the spine and further promotes injury (of course greater strain with more weight).

To an untrained person yes it looks very dangerous. Look at Olympic lifters, they lift heavy weights gracefully over their heads. It takes years of practice to get your form down correct. Even with basic lifts like bench,dead,squats.

I said nothing about the fact that they're lifting heavy weights.  I mean, of course lifting heavier weights is inherently more dangerous than light, but my point had nothing to do with the amount of weight and everything to do with the form of lifting that weight.

The reason I mention it is b/c the study and improvement of alignment/movement is a hobby of mine.  Additionally, my girlfriend is a certified personal trainer, and is currently working on her certification for injury rehabilitation and the study of how the muscles should move, and body should be aligned, to heal and prevent injury.   

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: strongman
« on: September 04, 2009, 08:48:34 am »
Some of those guys in the beginning doing squats have TERRIBLE form.  Knees turned far outwards, feet spread way too far (and most likely everted), using a bench to sit down on.  All recipe for disaster on the squat.  Can hardly believe they've gotten that far without some kind of serious injury. 

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Insulin, Growth Hormone, bulking
« on: August 31, 2009, 01:38:11 am »
So, you think civilization is good?

Not quite sure how to answer.  If you were to say 'so, you think eating raw meat is good?' I could answer easily with a yes, but that's a fairly straight foward and limited question.  The other is fairly open and can lead to other philisophical questions merely to answer it.

But I'd say overall that advanced civilization is the only chance humanity has for survival on a large time line.  We are only beginning to understand just what it means to be advanced.  Unfortunately there is the inherent risk that we may destroy ourselves and our planet before we become truly advanced. 

Civilization is an evolutionary adapatation.  It is hard to label any one particular adaptation as good or bad, it just is.  The consequences may or may not manifest themselves as survival enablers/disablers, and generally it can only be labelled as one or the other after the fact.

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General Discussion / Re: 'Cooked Meat Paleo' to 'Raw Meat Paleo'
« on: August 30, 2009, 05:10:01 am »
I've come to the conclusion that the real demons lie in cooked fats.  Carbs are relatively unnaffected by cooking (except enzymes and nutrient value), but the basic structure remains in tact.  I have not noticed much difference in raw or cooked fruits/veggies.  The fats however not only lose enzymes and nutrients, but their molecular structure changes and can wreak havoc on the body.  This is evidence by the fact that the body will surge white blood cells (responsible for eliminating unwanted/dangerous particles in the blood stream) when eating cooked meat, but this will not happen when eating raw.

To answer your question from a practical sense, if you start eating your meat mostly raw, you can expect better and faster digestion and absorption of nutrients (b/c of the enzymes and b/c now your body is not dealing with toxic fats).  You will be able to eat a big meal, but still feel somewhat light.  This will give your body more time/resources for recovery, and will lead to faster recovery. 

As far as grainfed parasites/bacteria, I eat grainfed almost exclusively and have no problems.  Don't get your food from Wal-Mart is a good start (they get the cheapest, lowest quality bulk stuff possible), at least go somewhere where they don't give hormone and antibiotics to thier beef (like wholefoods).  Grassfed is ideal though.

You will find eating lots of raw steak (I get chuck steaks b/c lots of fat) is actually pretty convienient.  It's easy, no prep necessary, and you can carry around alot of calories with little effort.  Just 1.5 - 2 lbs of meat is enough to at least get me through a day, though I will usually prefer a little more.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Insulin, Growth Hormone, bulking
« on: August 30, 2009, 04:37:05 am »
I hate to admit it, but the advent of grains, while detrimental to health, enabled the stabalization necessary to form civilization.  They are easy to store for years and years without spoiling, easy to transport, and fairly calorie dense (not like fat of course), but you can grow lots of calories with a relatively small plot of land.

All these aspects of grains enabled humans to more densly populate any given amount of land.   

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General Discussion / Re: Mandatory Mass Vaccination: Life or Death?
« on: August 26, 2009, 09:48:28 am »
I've been hearing/reading stuff about codex alimentarius for a few years now, but have never really seen anything substantially change.  I agree there are "evil" organizations like Monsanto that are destroying genetic diversity of crops and probably resulting in the mass death of the bees.

Being in the military, being the health monitor for my unit, and seeing how we do business in general, I'm just not convinced of the truth or even the ability to carry out such a large scale subversion of the population, at least not all at once.  Generally the things which have taken away our liberties are done slowly, boiling the frog one degree at a time.

I have to admit, I'm starting to get a little sick of all this swine flu artificial hysteria (it's non existant except for the news).  I can't decide if it's a news created thing cause they got nothing better to talk about than MJ, or if it's b/c there's something larger at play.  I mean, the government is still kind of making a big deal out of what is basically the flu, so it makes me wonder if there is something deeper going on. 

Right now, military is required to get the flu mist, sniffed up the nose, which is an innoculation of small amounts of the live virus in a saline solution (there's probably more stuff in there too).  But they're not being too demanding or anything about us getting it right away, there's still alot of people that haven't gotten it. 

The truth is, you can't stop people from having an orange tree in their back yard, or a grape vine, or growing tomatoes.  There's just too many people, and furthermore, I think it would turn off alot of law enforcement.  I mean, they can't even stop weed from growing in our backyards, and that's a non-essential narcotic.  How much more would they be unable to stop us from growing an essential food?


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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Insulin, Growth Hormone, bulking
« on: August 25, 2009, 11:37:47 am »
The ability to hurl heavier rocks, to chuck a larger spear would confer a survival advantage.  The ability to move heavy logs and make a better stronger leanto / tent / home would confer advantages.  The ability to carry an injured person to safety would help the tribe survive. 

On a side note, I have a confession to make.  I've been eating timed carbs to see how it affects muscle recovery (potatoes, corn, carb mixer).  It's been working great, I'm getting stronger and bigger, but I do tend to put on fat more easily though.  I only really eat them after a good solid work out, and tend to keep it to just meat after the first meal of carbs.  I did get carried away with it for a couple months (mostly b/c I was on temporary duty and had to eat at a chow hall for 3 weeks), and I put an inch of fat around my stomach.  No problem though, I went on the carnivore diet with restricted calories for 1 week and lost 1/2 an inch easy, without losing hardly any strength.  Ketosis is such a great way to lose fat.   

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General Discussion / Re: health question
« on: August 24, 2009, 09:30:57 am »
People that smoke weed have greatly reduced chances of getting alzheimers.  The smoke also damages lung cells, but unlike tobacco smoke, those cells don't become cancerous.  In fact, people that smoke weed, even alot, don't typically get lung cancer.  THC has been shown to have anti-cancer properties. 

No surprise that smoking has health benefits.  There are also downsides.   

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General Discussion / Re: How much sleep do you get a night?
« on: August 24, 2009, 09:17:58 am »
I love sleep, it's one of my favorite things to do.  I do best on 8.5 to 10 hours every night.  I've read that before the lightbulb, we used to sleep 9 hours a night.

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