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Off Topic / Re: Would you become a paleolithic human if you could?
« on: August 13, 2009, 02:17:27 pm »
Freedom is something that occurs internally.  Liberty is the full expression of free will in the external world.  We all have varying degrees of freedom within ourselves.  Some are complete slaves to their instinctual and emotional nature, neglecting almost entirely the rational mind.  They are ruled by passion and lust, and it leads to pain and suffering which are the evidence of death in varying degrees.

I have very divided feelings about the amount of liberty we have in America.  You have the liberty to decide which restaurant you will eat at, where you live, what job you would like, the kind of car you drive, what size flat screen you want,, you get it??  This is merely the illusion of liberty, not liberty itself.

You don't have the liberty to save up for a secure future without our government and banking system robbing a sizeable portion (or all of it) through taxes, inflation, and the boom/bust cycle created by our monetary policy.  You don't have the liberty of a speedy trial, no everything gets lost in litigation that takes years to sort out, and ,many have been denied the right of habeas corpus for years now.  You don't have the liberty to decide what you will put in your body - raw milk, marijuana, vaccinations - it's all decided for you by the state.  In many places, you don't have the liberty to decide how you will educate your children.  The list goes on and on.

So we've accepted the illusion of liberty for the real thing itself.  And why does this happen?  Because our nation(s)' people have willfully relinquished the source of liberty; and that source is freedom, which can only occur internally.  We've become slaves to luxury and passion, we've neglected imagination, deduction, and true examination/questioning of authority and commonly held beliefs.  And this common disease, this common enslavement of the mind -- given willfully, even if given subconsiously, freedom can only be given not taken -- this willful enslavement has allowed unscrupulous men to take advantage and take away liberties little by little.  It was merely a reflection of the internal state in to which we were/are? falling. 

The source of enduring liberty is springs from the hearts and minds of free individuals.  When enough people demand it, liberty can be restored, or at least increased.  Our nation was founded on these very principles, it is why the Constitution was written, to limit the power of government so that it would not impinge upon the liberty of individuals.  Great though it is, it is backed by nothing except the resolve of free men and women to enforce the standards of liberty which are clearly spelled out.  The only way to do this is to get involved in the political process, as tedious and difficult as that sounds. 

I don't have time tonight to get in to all of it, but maybe I'll post some more info in the off topics about how we can actually do something other than just wish, debate, hope.   


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I do have to ask (re the article), how much of that is physiological and biochemical, and how much is pyschological?  For example, I bet it would work even better if you ate eggs and bacon for that 'break-fast' meal.  Make sense? 

I never have really been a big breakfast eater.  I tend to skip it all together. 

I have learned though, that eating right before bed is not a good idea.  During sleep, your body does not 'shut down', but rather goes in to a different mode - repair.  If you eat a big meal and hit the sack, you're body now has to spend lots of energy on digestion when it should be repairing.  Also, since you're laying down, you don't have the added benefit of gravity to help along.

Probably most of you know that already, I just figured it out (like 2 days ago).  Anyways, I now am making sure to get at least 1 if not 2 hours before supper and bed.  Supper is my biggest meal.  I just don't feel as good during the day if I eat alot.  I like to work out and move on an empty or somewhat empty stomach.  Before RP, lunch used to hit me like a ton of bricks.  I could barely keep my eyes open.  Still have that a little bit, but I tend to believe it's best to catch a short nap in the early afternoon if possible. 

I would guess that things vary depending on what you're eating, and how much.  If you eat little at each sitting, I can see how you would need breakfast (and snacks during the day).  I'm sure the more proportion of calories you get from carbs, the more pronounced this becomes.

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General Discussion / Re: Question about teeth.
« on: August 10, 2009, 04:23:53 am »
eh, well I still get film even if all I've eaten for a day or so is meat and fat. 

SuperInfinity, at 90% fruits I could see why you may have some teeth problems.  All the sugar - granted it will probably do less damage than lets say, eating tons of candy, but still that's alot. 

I eat probably 5-10% non- animal source calories (tomato, avocado, pecans, coconut water).  The other 90% is pretty much beef, eggs, liver; occasionally a little chicken, scallops, oysters, or fish.  I do the occasional drinking (maybe once or twice a month), and sometimes throw in small amounts of bread or potatos or whatnot, but generally I'd say that's about where I am. 

I did a couple weeks at 90% vegitation when I first started RP, but I couldn't keep it up long enough to see if it did anything to my teeth.  I just couldn't get enough calories so I had to start eating more meat, particularly fat.  But funny enough, the only time I've ever had teeth problems is when I tried zero carb.  So I think (for me) there's something about fruit that does help protect teeth as well.   

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General Discussion / Re: Question about teeth.
« on: August 10, 2009, 01:08:07 am »
The smell of my breath is what really was an amazing change.  It actually happened before RP when I decided to start eating more healthy, and to eat more fruit.  So I began to brush once every day or so (with toothpaste).  When I went RP I found that I didn't really need to brush anymore.  Occassionally strong spices will get the breath kicking at will stick for 1/2 a day, but other than that, I do pretty well.

I do get the meat stuck in teeth as well.  I started using my canines more instead of the front teath.  It's a bit messier, but you get to the meat better.  After a meal I just use my fingernails to pick out the strings.  They tend to work themselves out anyways.  In the morning I usually end up picking some out. 

I also get that film over my teeth, I'd say at least once a day I use my fingernails to scrape it off.

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Off Topic / Re: Raw nutrition, love, premonitory dreams, visions and ESP
« on: August 09, 2009, 06:09:23 am »
When I was a kid, I was at summer camp walking down a dirt road.  I used to get this thing where I would feel like I would get pulled upward and back, just out of my body.  Sounds became very distant but plenty clear, and I would see differently.  Almost trance like, but still fully functional.

Well it happend REALLY strong, I just snapped in to that state walking down this road.  A series of events that took 30 sec's or so played out, and then I snapped out of it.  I had this crazy sensation of deja vu, and then realized I had dreamt the entire thing about a week before (I used to remember my dreams for weeks out as a kid).  I mean it was like if you'd put a camera in my eye and in my dream, they were the exact same. 

Of course this was a long time ago, and even though I've had some weird experiences with that kind of stuff, I still can't bring myself to say there is definitely something else going on.  I guess it's the scientist in me that would like to see those kind of things purposefully replicated.

I haven't noticed much difference on RP or not, although I do sleep better and have more vivid dreams.  Although I always forget to pay attention to my dreams.

If you're interested in that kind of stuff, check out Eckhart Tolle. 

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General Discussion / Re: Sulfur gas from eating cooked eggs
« on: August 09, 2009, 05:56:52 am »
I think the most eggs I've ever eaten in a day is something like 20, all raw.  I used to eat 8-10 eggs every day for a couple months about a year ago.  In fact, I once got my cholesterol checked after drinking 6 eggs for breakfast (you're supposed to fast for a cholesterol test but I didn't know that).  They took my blood about 30 mins later, and my cholesterol was at 200.  From what I've read, ideal is 180-200.  Any higher and you're increased risk for death from heart disease, any lower you're at increased risk for dying from all sorts of other stuff like cancer or failing organs, etc.

Now I only eat a couple every other day or so.  Just prefer beef.

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Off Topic / Re: Would you become a paleolithic human if you could?
« on: August 06, 2009, 01:26:12 pm »
White men would never have stood a chance against the full force of the native americans (so I have read in high school) were it not for the diseases which supposedly killed off like 80 or 90%.  But then again, many of the things I was taught in hs were either incorrect or just plain lies. 

Nonetheless, it brings up a good question, why were the native americans on a raw paleo diet so suseptible to these new diseases?  We would tend to believe here that the main cause of disease is diet, but this one thing does trouble me. 

No way would I go back, or wish the world to return to non-civilization.  Ever watch a discovery channel show about various primitive tribes?  Lots of superstition.  Not even necessarily an ideal diet.  You would look up at the stars and wonder; create myths and legends, but have no knowledge.  You would stare in to the fire at night mesmerized, but not understand it.  Humanity would continue on until we get struck by a meteor and die, get taken out by some terrible fate, or continue for billions of years until the sun blinks out

Also is the consideration of human psychology.  We are curious, and naturally apply our reasoning abilities to create, be it a sling or rocket.  If this were not so, humans would not have developed technology.  It was this sense of discovery and desire for creation, that led to civilization itself.  We would not have been human to sit content in the wild with no desire or attempt for advancement.

And this advancement puts us in an interesting, reallly an amazing moment in time.  We are beginning to grasp in our hands the direction of evolution for not only humans, but all species.  We have the technology to see an impending meteor impact, and to do something about it.  Perhaps one day we will decipher our genome (that is understand it fully), to make longer living, stronger, more intelligent humans.  To purposefully create a superior humanity.  We have the opportunity to understand the universe in a way that gives us power only dreamt about in the wildest fantasies of those who came just centuries before us.

Why would you take all that possibility, promise, hope, opportunity, discovery, and ditch it for a more primitive existence? 
Yes we are flirting with destruction and the possibility of life extinguishment as the result of our newfound power.  But it is this that makes our adventure so unique, so amazing.  True we may meet our death on this path of discovery, but on a long enough timeline how would that outcome be any different?  In other words, without advancement we're going to at some point die anyways.  So what do we have to lose? 

And even more absurd, why would a person knowing all this (and thus able to contribute to a sound outcome), walk away to the jungle to allow less respectful, less capable, covetous, and foolish men hold in their hands the fate of the world and your children?  Our path is to become technologically advanced and raise the consciousness of our fellow humans, thus preserving our species and biosphere indefinitely, or to one day die, whether it be in a nuclear disaster soon, or maybe a comet later, or ultimately at the death of our sun many billions of years from now.

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General Discussion / Re: Sulfur gas from eating cooked eggs
« on: August 06, 2009, 12:43:35 pm »
I loved eggs as a kid.  Oh man I could put down 4-6 of them for breakfast even at the age of 5.  I did notice they gave me 'egg burps' as I called them.  I also noticed that if I ate the yolks runny (my fav), I would tend to feel nausious, but not if they were totally cooked. 

Today I can eat raw eggs or fully cooked, neither makes me nausious, but still, if I do the mixed thing I'll get a little queasy if I eat 3-4.

My guess (on the burping issue), there is some kind of fat that has a strong taste.  Like garlic and volitile oils, or this lemon omega-3 fish oil I have will stay with me for awhile after drinking. 

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Thanks for the link.  Good stuff. 

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General Discussion / Re: Diabetes
« on: August 06, 2009, 11:30:37 am »
I'm sure it was the softdrink commercials that prompted Lex to go zero carb  -\

Anyways, if you've done any research on centenarian studies, you will find that one of the very few commonalities between those that live to be 100, is low insulin levels.  And heart cells prefer to use ketone bodies as opposed to glucose for fuel, as they operate more efficiently.  There's all kinds of interesting stuff out there re the differences between insulin and glucagon as metabolic pathways.  Bottom line, reduced insulin levels slow the aging process.

When I say most of us, I mean that most people are at varying stages of insulin resistance.  This does not heal overnight - many of us on this forum came from a lifetime of diets high in carbs and processed food.  I don't know how long it takes to get insulin down to childhood years, I'm sure it varies from person to person.  As a swag I'd say anywhere from a couple months to a couple years.

No intentions of offending your insulin levels tho

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Off Topic / Re: "Reject basic assumptions..."
« on: August 03, 2009, 09:18:53 am »
-GROWTH IS GOOD (industry, technology, population, production, money, etc).  I believe it spawns from the premise that plenty helps assure survival.  If you need 12 bushels of wheat (I know not paleo, whatev) to survive in a year, then you plant 100 b/c hail will take some, birds will take some, the tax man will take some, you need seed to plant, etc.  So we grow and store excess beyond what we need by an inherent survival mechanism

-WE ARE SUPERIOR TO ALL THAT CAME BEFORE US

-THERE IS A DIVINE GUIDANCE OVER WHAT WE ARE DOING (Often there is an 'end times' mythology belief associated with this;where many believe that everything will be destroyed but then made anew in glorious splendour of heaven).

-WE ARE TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED (inherently associated with having a firm grasp on the laws of the universe)

Probably I could think of a few more.

Problem is, these are all terrible assumptions and almost certainly detrimental to us and our planet as a whole.  Kyle has mentioned the problems with growth.  Over-population of our planet is an ENORMOUSLY DIFFICULT problem to tackle, and most people don't even have the stomach to discuss it.  We are destroying the very life which gave us life.  Poisoning it with radioactivity and industrial chemicals, destroying it with deforestation and human settlement/farmland . . . I could go on for a while. 

Also, it's very likely that our paleo ancestors were physically and mentally superior, and probably even genetically superior (due to devolution as a result of helping everyone to survive, even those that probably should not have).

We are not really all that advanced, I know it seems that way b/c of the pace of advancement, but the universe is turning out to be such a weird place.  Things like quantum entanglement, naked singularities, the accelerating rate of expansion of the galaxies, the possibilities of a multiverse - the more we learn, the more perplexing and promising things become.     

Last, and I think it is perhaps one of the most dangerous assumptions of all, is the notion of divine guidance.  It subtly and subconsiously removes the burden of responsibility (collectively) from humanity and places it on some god figure.  It kind of goes hand in hand with the assumption that we are superior. 

I guess personally, I tend to hope and believe the best for humanity.  Simultaneously, I kind of assume the worst about the general population.  I hate to see unquestioned patriotism, religiosity, and confidence in ones own beliefs.  I constantly question my own.  I hate to see the WILLFUL ignorance of the public, and their disposition towards lazy habits of thinking ("he who reads too much and ponders too little falls into lazy habits of thinking" -Einstein).  But I beleive most of this is culture, upbrining.  I do not believe humans to act this way inherently, but maybe it's a bi-product of the basic assumptions of civiliation...   

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General Discussion / Re: teeth and hunting
« on: August 03, 2009, 08:20:47 am »
If you're going to argue that we are meant to not eat meat, or only eat a very little bit, then you should at least be eating insects.  80% of the worlds population still purposefully eats insects.  Insects naturally occur in fruit anyways, plus they have nutrients that fruit does not. 

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What about the javaline throw?  Those guys should beat any modern athlete (performance enhancing drugs aside).  Also, what about throwing a baseball?  No doubt we would have been proficient at throwing rocks.  Or any type of running.  Paleo men would have been running from children on up, never really would have stopped.

Technique does account for alot, so yeah they wouldn't be able to keep up with Roger Federer or Tiger Woods in any type of highly specialized sport.

 

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Health / Re: Foot Fungus
« on: July 14, 2009, 12:53:49 am »
Air Force.  I did have this problem before I got in.  My toes do seem to have improved some on RP, but it will probably be very limitted until I can kick the boots.

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Journals / Re: From SAD to Zero-Carb
« on: July 11, 2009, 08:11:06 am »
How long did you try raw paleo?  Or was it just paleo but not raw?  Was it zc?
Some people (like me) don't do well on zc.  I get loose stools among other issues. 

Have you eaten anything suspect like perhaps non organic organs?  Having food go straight through you can be a sign of parasites.  I don't think regular old muscle meats carry much danger, or well raised organic organs, but say non organic chicken livers... that gave me parasites once. 

A solid diet will balance your glandular system and calm the mind.  Won't solve everything, but it will put solutions within your grasp.

I know everyone says to order organic grassfed beef, and I agree that it's much better than grainfed; but if that is impractical for you, I eat grainfed beef every day and don't really have any problems.  A low carb, raw, grainfed meat diet is still better for you than waffles.

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Health / Re: Foot Fungus
« on: July 11, 2009, 07:55:14 am »
Thanks for all the replies.  I've been RP for 1.5 yrs now, I eat pretty much 2 lbs of raw meat and fat every day and just a little bit of fruit and or coconut water.  Usually less than 40 grams carbs a day.  From January-May of this year I was VLC with less than 30g a day.  For about 6-8 months before that I was at 50-60g carbs per day, so I'm pretty sure it's not related to carbs.  I don't take meds.  I think it's just a lingering issue.

I walk around in boots 10 hrs every day, I'm sure that doesn't help.  It may be something I just have to deal with until I get a job that doesn't require boots.  I'll try some of the remedies mentioned. 

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Health / Foot Fungus
« on: July 09, 2009, 09:25:54 am »
I've had foot fungus for like 8 years now.  My nails are yellow and thick, which wouldn't really be a problem except that as my nails grow, they separate from the skin below, not painful tho.  It's especially bad on one of my big toes.  I have completely removed the nail before, leaving nothing but tough skin or shallow nail underneath, and it grew out pretty well over 1/2 a year, but then today I noticed it had separated again and cut most of it off. 

Any advice for curing?

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Raw Weston Price / Re: Baldness American indians
« on: July 03, 2009, 08:57:04 am »
You have it backwards.  The pot smoking Indians were sold fire-water and made to eat cooked meat by the drunken Eurpoeans.

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Off Topic / Re: Talking to plants
« on: June 26, 2009, 02:37:27 am »
I have read that the plant and animal kingdoms 'talk' to each other through chemical messages.  Plants produce various chemicals which affect the bio-chemistry of the animals that consume them, and animals produce fecal matter which in turn sends chemical messages back to the plants. 

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Are you doing zero carb?  If so, how long?  Low energy, no desire for meat and/or fat, and upset stomach are all symptoms some people experience when trying zc.  You may be on the right lines of thinking about adding some fruit.  You may even be able to stay VLC, and just eat some non-sweet non-starchy fruit w/ your meat.  Or like Lex says, a small piece of fruit or a salad somewhere during the day. 

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Coconut oil makes me nauseous.  Too much supermarket grainfed fat has occasionally done the same.  It's no surprise you are having trouble w/ rendered fat. 

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General Discussion / Re: Standard diet for the ladies
« on: June 25, 2009, 02:31:47 pm »
While I hardly every put any real concern in to how many calories I'm consuming (although sometimes add it up just for gee whiz purposes), I think it may be helpful in your case.  Below is what I understand from your original post:

2 eggs + 1 tbsp coconut oil + 1/2tsp honey + 1oz liver + 2 oz ribeye:  2(70)+120+25+40+90 = 415 calories
small apple, 2oz ribeye, 1/2 avocado = 80+90+160 = 330
4oz? of fish:estimated 30 calories per ounce : 4(30) = 120 
2 eggs, 1tbsp coconut oil, 2 oz ribeye = 350

What this means is you are getting about 1200 calories per day, unless there is something I haven't included.  That's not a whole lot.  Are you active in any way?  I can see how you might get low on energy, especially with the many small meals throughout the day.  You might want to try upping the fat intake, preferably from animal sources.  Bone marrow, suet, hide fat; all good choices.  I may end up getting berated (probably rightfully), but I would say butter is preferable to not getting any more calories, especially in the winter when it's cold.   

The guys here who do IF tend to eat 1 large meal per day, consisting of 1.5-2.5 lbs of fatty meat.  Not sure what their calorie count is, but I'm guessing it's somewhere near 2500-3500 (correct me if I'm wrong).  The only time I ever turn off meat is in between meals (full obviously), or when doing zero carb for over a week(lose desire for meat).   

You mentioned you don't gain weight no matter how much you eat - do you feel that you could benefit from gaining a few pounds?  How much and what did you eat when trying to gain?  Weight isn't always a good indicator of health, but it can be useful.

You have trouble eating more than a few oz meat at any 1 time?  It may help to brown the outside and spice, and eat w/ some tomato/peppers/avocado/etc.  It could be you have a small stomach - maybe need to expand it some (thats a random ass guess btw).  Also, exercise can stimulates appetite in a big way. 

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Off Topic / Re: Talking to plants
« on: June 25, 2009, 01:28:39 pm »
Interesting.  I'm not sure if 10 is a large enough sample size to draw any meaningful conclusions though.   

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Abdominal fat
« on: June 23, 2009, 01:51:20 pm »
Your pancreas produces insulin to convert blood sugar - glucose - into either immediate energy useage, glycogen (which is a form of sugar stored in cells, ready for short bursts of strength), or fat; and it will do it in that order.  Each of your cells has receptors, which insulin (when present) will bind to.  This signals your cells to take in sugars and do one of those 3 things with them. 

In our modern society of carb overload, your cells lose many of those receptors in an attempt to keep the excess sugar out.  This happens slowly over the course of many years and is called insulin resistance.  However, it's very dangerous for you blood glucose (bg) to get too high, so your pancreas, in an attempt to keep bg levels in an acceptable range, produces even more insulin to force your cells to 'listen.'

Your liver cells are the first to become resistant.  Then your muscle cells follow, and finally your fat cells.  What this means is that as you progress towards greater insulin resistance, your fat cells still readily uptake that glucose and store as fat, while your liver and muscles tend to absorb much less of the load.  Suddenly putting on a considerable amt of fat over the course of a few months to a year is a sure sign that you are progressing through deeper stages of insulin resistance.  Ultimately your weight will stabilize (much higher) as your fat cells also become insulin resistant, but the next step is diabetes - exhaustion of the pancreas from years of overworking. 

Additionally, it seems the liver produces glucose from protein in the absence of dietary carbs, and apparently it will overproduce as a result of insulin resistance.         

Pretty much everyone in America is at differing levels of insulin resistance, even many of us who are RP and low carb.  It takes years to do, and it can take years to undo.  It is a glandular issue, and if there's one good over-arching rule about your endocrine system, it's that each sub-system, each gland, is highly inter-related with each  other.  Decades of poor dietary choices wreak havoc on the system as a whole - be it carbs and excess insulin, caffeine and excess adrenaline, steroids and excess testosterone, etc.  And to be sure, toxins from cooked meats play quite a role as well.  Healing and restoration of proper function can take a long time, and I'm convinced can't be done without plenty of raw animal foods.

It is no surprise that it may take awhile to shed some of that more stubborn fat - it may very well be indicative of a still damaged endocrine system.  Repair and restoration of tissues can take time, and I would guess, progresses in stages as the years go by.
 
Some things you can do to speed the process: exercise exercise exercise.  It is a fact that strength/resistance training will increase the insulin senstivity of your muscle and liver cells.  It is okay to eat some carbs after a strenuous workout.  What many people trying to lose fat make the mistake of doing is going for a long walk or light bike ride or something like that, thinking it will induce fat loss.  I mean, it will (slowly) in the sense that you are burning a few extra calories, but you have to get in an anaerobic state to get the insulin sensitivity response. 

This doesn't mean you have to go bench press 300 lbs or workout every day, but it does mean you need to get near muscle failure (where you can't do any more reps) multiple times for your large muscle groups over the course of 20-60 mins.  You can also combine with some cardio for the benefit of both worlds.  If you are new to training, ease in to it, once a week for the first few weeks, working your way up to 3 days a week of anaerobic exercise.  Be sure to take care of your joints, and go for higher reps, lighter weights, especially when starting off.

Additionally, that kind of exercise tends to enhance metabolism and prime your body for growth.  While I have not read anything that directly states this, it would make sense that this kind of response would put your body into a state that promotes regeneration in general - much how some people will gain upper body muscle, even if they only work their lower body.  The body is in a chemical state overall that promotes healing, cell division, and strengthening.

I'm fairly convinced that fat tends to store in certain areas for some people more than others, and can be difficult to get rid of.  Although this is usually related to the insulin/glucagon and other hormonal responses related to insulin resistance.  So even if on a low carb diet, you may still be recovering insulin sensitivity (along w/ other glandular functions), and may still have some stubborn fat.  A person on a low carb diet who has mostly healed their insulin resistance probably will not experience this much or at all. 

lol, so Wodgina, I guess I both agree and disagree.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Zero carb Euphoria
« on: June 22, 2009, 07:53:28 am »
This was Aug-Sep last year.  On the outside of 3 bottom molars, you could see a small black dot (caries), on one of them it was somewhat larger than a dot.  Over the course of a few months two of them shrank and disappeared, the large one still lingers, though it too has shrunk considerably.   

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