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Journals / Re: PaleoPhil's Journal
« on: September 04, 2012, 04:27:35 pm »
I've similarly noticed some increased dental health by eating cooked chicken bones from time to time. With some vinegar added and a bit of time, they soften and disolve at very low temperatures (I also put it on warm in the crockpot), so I don't think it's nearly bad as cooking can be (boiling, steaming, etc).

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Hot Topics / Re: Raw honey - is it just marketing?
« on: September 04, 2012, 02:29:52 pm »
It looks like that honey is being advertised as cold extracted, if Google translator is working well, which means that at least one German honey maker (that perhaps some members of the beekeeper association sell their honeys to and meet their standards) does think there's a difference in the temperatures of some processing methods, yes?
Not sure, there are bunch of honeys which say cold extracted. Specifically for heather honey it might be relevant, because I read that it's a very specific honey (thixotropic) and cold extraction is pretty hard requiring methods like a bunch of needles in each hole of the comb rotating in order to make it fluid, or alternatively by pressing the comb. And this one was really expensive (10 eur for 0.5kg), probably because of the involved extraction process.

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Hot Topics / Re: Raw honey - is it just marketing?
« on: September 04, 2012, 02:20:43 am »
Wow that's just amazing how they manage to regulate the temperature.
I think it's kinda artificial that the bee boxes are just like that on the sun (from what I've seen), because naturally beehives are on trees, under shadow.

The honey I got is "Dreyer Deutscher Imkerhonig", similar to this, but it's Heidehonig, not Blütenhonig.

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Hot Topics / Re: Raw honey - is it just marketing?
« on: September 03, 2012, 07:47:10 pm »
I've had stomach ache with most honeys as far as I remember, but maybe I just haven't found the one for me yet :) This one is heather honey.

One hour later the stomach pain is gone and I feel like very slightly drunk and happy hah. Interesting stuff.

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Hot Topics / Re: Raw honey - is it just marketing?
« on: September 03, 2012, 06:36:33 pm »
Wow, 93F (33C), so no honey is raw according to Aajonus in my area, where regular summer day can get to 45C and bee boxes are just out there on the sun? :)

I just bought some raw honey, it says to keep it at below 20C and out of light to preserve its beneficial ingredients.
My stomach is hurting from one tablespoon, much like when you eat raw garlic, is this something typical? I can't imagine eating a lot of this stuff.. maybe I'm allergic to honey.

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Off Topic / Re: Interesting rawpalaeo-friendly site
« on: September 03, 2012, 04:00:11 pm »

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Hot Topics / Re: Raw honey - is it just marketing?
« on: September 02, 2012, 10:27:31 pm »
Ok thanks for responses! I'm not sure I can find the highly recommended raw honeys around here, so that's why I was wondering about this.
I've bought one type of raw honey (specifically said kaltgeschleudert) before, didn't like it much.
It's not just anyone's opinion btw, it's written by an association of bee keepers in Germany.

I wanted to try fermented honey, but haven't had luck finding any so far. There is honey wine here, which I suppose is mead(?) and is quite good but I'm not very interested in alcohol.

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Health / Re: I keep losing weight!
« on: September 02, 2012, 10:04:15 pm »
I don't get it how you folks don't understand that she doesn't need someone telling her whether she looks fine or not.
And yeah right wodgina, her opinion isn't reality but yours is.

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Hot Topics / Re: Raw honey - is it just marketing?
« on: September 02, 2012, 05:59:41 pm »
Yes the temperature is perfectly fine, I'm just wondering if I should bother at all looking for specifically raw honey, if all of them are same in terms of "rawness", as the site above claims.

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Hot Topics / Raw honey - is it just marketing?
« on: September 02, 2012, 05:10:25 pm »
On a German website I read that all honey is cold extracted (at least in Germany, for the past 100 years), at 37C which is enough to losen up the wax, and that "raw honey" is just dishonest marketing strategy from bee keepers. Couldn't find more info, anyone knows more?

http://www.imker-badschwalbach.de/kaltgeschleudert.html

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Health / Re: I keep losing weight!
« on: September 02, 2012, 04:43:53 pm »
Not sure if this has been posted here before: http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/before-and-after-photos/brady's-before-and-after-pics-gained-20kg-in-3-months/
Obviously pretty high carb is necessary, he was eating 1/2kg of honey per day..

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Journals / Re: a strong mother...
« on: September 01, 2012, 10:56:31 pm »
So where do you get your foods in general? We have been having a hard time finding grassfed meat. We found one seller that is affordable, but she is not shipping our order for some reason... -\
Mostly at the farmers market, where local farms come to sell their products 2-3 times a week. Isn't there some Wochenmarkt around your place?
There is a farm that carries grass-fed beef at my market, it's about 1.5x more expensive than regular beef from the supermarket.

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Journals / Re: a strong mother...
« on: September 01, 2012, 06:35:15 pm »
What I buy is pretty much all meat with some small bones here and there. Some farms will give you a whole carcass which has a lot more bones but still has plenty of meat.
Suiren, I get it from the local farmers market.

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Journals / Re: a strong mother...
« on: September 01, 2012, 04:42:23 am »
That is very cheap, we would pay about 8 bucks here and it is not even a kilo.

Chicken - I heard the bones are not suitable for dogs because they can break into little sharp pieces?
8 bucks in Germany? I buy Kleinfleisch for 1 euro or so. You can slow cook it and then the bones get very soft.

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Health / Re: I keep losing weight!
« on: August 31, 2012, 02:18:51 pm »
3500 calories at 46kg weight!! I'm seriously amazed that you can eat that much!
Something really doesn't fit here if you don't gain weight.

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In societies where mothers spend a long time breastfeeding and having babies, breast cancer is virtually unheard of. The theory goes that menstruation is hard on the body.
I think it's more accurate to say that it's because we have been in such societies throughout most of human history, i.e. women have always been spending a lot of time pregnant / nursing. It's only in recent times that this has changed radically.

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Primal Diet / Re: raw milk benefits
« on: August 30, 2012, 01:51:56 pm »
Yeah he seems to think that only the most expensive grass-fed in the wild mountains meat and organs are worth eating, and everything else is worse than SAD. Sounds like a bad excuse to me too.

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Primal Diet / Re: raw milk benefits
« on: August 30, 2012, 02:35:37 am »
Yes stuff like casomorphin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casomorphin) is what keeps me away from milk/cheese. Still eat raw butter sometimes though.
I don't like the idea of being sedated.
It pretty much always constipates me, and I believe this morphine stuff just ends up sedating the intestines so they can't move the food properly. If you eat fiber or other stuff that stimulates the bowels you may get away, but I don't eat pretty much any fiber and it's always a disaster.

Gluten in grains similarly release morphine, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliadorphin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten_exorphin

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Journals / Re: a strong mother...
« on: August 30, 2012, 02:15:57 am »
Sounds like you're getting enough weight lifting with that little guy :D

Brain fog means you're probably not very tolerant to carbs and you're pretty much doing low carb? Have you measured how much carbs you eat per day? Carrots and fruits doesn't sounds like much, especially because you need a fortune to eat enough calories from fruits, and you said money is restricted.

It's a fact that when eating raw diet you will absorb LESS calories, that's what many studies have shown. E.g. when eating raw fish you'll absorb less protein than when eating it cooked. My take on it is that you need some time to adapt to fully digesting raw foods, maybe months for some but years for others, which is why these studies found what they found, because they were mostly done on people who've never eaten raw meat or fish or eggs before in their life. So maybe you're just still in this adaptation phase. Or maybe you're badly doing a low carb. Or maybe it's that celiac possibility. No clue about Hashimoto though, maybe someone can comment.

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Journals / Re: a strong mother...
« on: August 29, 2012, 11:44:54 pm »
BMI gets skewed for tall people like me, so it's more like 18-19 I think. It's certainly not ideal because I get the same remarks like you everywhere, "you're so thin...". But yours is indeed really low.
Women can't make much muscles, so don't worry about that. But your appetite will increase, metabolism will normalize, etc.
I agree that women look much better with some healthy levels of fat under the skin, and likewise men with some normally sized muscles as well as fat, but yeah, we're at a genetic disadvantage with regards to this and need to fight.. ;) At least it's better than being obese.

I don't know how tolerant you are to carbs, if you don't have problems with them you could try eating some white rice every day. It's extremely cheap and relatively safe if you add a bunch of fat like butter to it. Without the rice I'd probably go down to your BMI.

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Journals / Re: a strong mother...
« on: August 29, 2012, 06:24:05 pm »
Try some weightlifting, otherwise it's pretty much impossible to get fatter on this diet (unless you're naturally big/fat).
I have the exact same problem with weight, but I'd rather be thin and feel good than stuff myself with bread or dairy or whatever and feel crappy, just so that I look better to others.
Most here won't understand that those like us that are naturally thin, end up REALLY thin on this diet. I'm 1.9m tall male and 73kg.. fucking marathon runners are bigger.

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General Discussion / Re: Making a 'raw paleo diet' facebook fan page?
« on: August 14, 2012, 04:01:34 am »

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Journals / Re: Inger's healing journey
« on: August 14, 2012, 12:35:23 am »
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The viruses and bacteria involved in the genesis of most so-called infectious diseases are regarded as vectors and partners in genetically encoded symbiotic processes, so as to help the body clear molecules alien to organic function inside actual cells.

It's a weak theory, which may explain why it's not widely accepted. It should work in all cases, or say exactly in which it works or doesn't. According to the theory, the body obviously benefits from most viruses and bacteria, but how do they benefit from helping the body? Might be a pure coincidence, a side-effect that these bad molecules are cleared up in the effort of fighting the virus itself. I can not imagine that the body doesn't have the mechanisms to do this cleanup itself, but needs help from 3rd party organisms. I could accept that now we constantly face novel toxins, from cooking, industry, etc. so maybe this would make sense, but what about a million years ago? There were certainly viruses and bacteria back then as well how were they helping if we were already doing all natural, wild instincto?

Anyway, let's not hijack the thread, which is about hormone optimization :)

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Journals / Re: Inger's healing journey
« on: August 13, 2012, 10:53:07 pm »
This is a real understatement! All the virus and bacterias we have experienced so far since the 60's are our friends : they are here to set a detox, which remains benign as long as the kind of abnormal molecules being expelled from the body are not simultaneously reintroduced by the meals.
I like to believe they are here to eat, prosper, reproduce, i.e. the goal of every living organism. Sometimes there's too much collateral damage (e.g. malaria..), sometimes there's just a small detox as you said, e.g. fever or similar. But usually it's in their interest to keep you (the host) alive and well function for as long as possible, their goal is to eat, stay alive (defend from the immune system) and spread to other hosts, not attack you and cause you harm. Only we humans can get evil and greedy if you ask me..

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Journals / Re: Inger's healing journey
« on: August 13, 2012, 10:16:45 pm »
You make kind of funny paralells IMHO aLpt.... LOL
Ok at least funny is still better than bad.. :)
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Imagine how bad people are off these times when everyone fears bacterias and viruses so much.. uh!
Rightly so in my opinion, most people's immune systems are so detrained because we live in isolated, pasteurized, sterilized environments, so pathogens could easily cause harm. Plus when people get even the smallest infection they immediately go to antibiotics or similar medications, rather than letting the immune system handle it, which further increases vulnerability.
Raw food diet helps a bit as your immune system is more often challenged and you're much more used and resistant to bacteria and parasites.

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Journals / Re: Inger's healing journey
« on: August 13, 2012, 05:12:00 pm »
My point was that until we learned to make and control fire, there were no candles, no fire, no other light besides the moon in the night, no cooking, etc. I thought this is one of the arguments for raw paleo, that evolutionary we haven't fully adapted to cooked food yet. And artificial light from candles or wood or whatever, is just as new as cooked food. But if you say we have adapted to candles and even benefit from it and fire light, I have nothing against. I was just making this parallel..
I don't have any experience with reading by candles or avoiding artificial light in the dark.

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