Past few days I've been drinking raw goat's milk, then raw cow's milk.
Seems there is no farting with raw goat's milk.
More farting with raw cow's milk.
We made raw ice cream too.

Hm, strange, cows and goats both seem to fart quite a bit.

Yeah, there's no instinctive  stop with milk until your stomach is full up, similarly to most processed and heated foods. This is one more clue that milk is not a primal food.

What is absurd is to endorse animal milk in a paleo-diet forum.

I don't agree, milk is much more water than meat. I don't you can't drink enough milk to experience an instinctive stop except when it is the bulk of what you are eating. I do experience instinctive stops with meat, I think milk, but not fruit. What makes me stop eating fruit is that it makes me feel high and my intellect knows that is bad, my body however tells me to eat more and my teeth tell me to only eat it once or twice a day and never without fat or at least protein.

I knew gutter punks who didn't even bother to cook it and said it was their favorite food.

For the first few months I was eating raw eggs, they were from my ducks who were living off of cow pats, spring grass and swamp muck, their yolks were so orange they were more orange than an orange, like a sunset, orange like a stop sign is red. They made me feel kind of stoned, but really really good and  clean and clear headed and happy. It was like the best drug ever.  I usually only eat eggs in season now and cooked eggs are grotesque. I don't eat a lot of eggs, I think I am going to go break open 5-7 of them and drink up.

We have these multi color duck eggs right now, pale whitish, blue, green, red speckled and pink. Same ol' duck egg though.

Muscovy duck eggs are better though.

Cows because they are easiest to fence. Though starting out with beef cow herd would take quite an investment and a long turn around of 2-4 years. However you could buy a few milk cows and buy baby dairy bulls and raise quite a few beefers for cheap. On the other hand beef cow mamas are about the hardiest domestic stock because of their huge rumens and fat reserves they can live off of very coarse forage through harsh conditions, especially certain breeds. You can also buy weaned beef bulls and steers and raise them and sell them very profitably. Cows are the least labor.

Pigs because they are the best at rapidly improving neglected land although they need lots of brought in feed so to have a large pig operation you need to be located somewhere where you  can take advantage of a large nutrition stream. They need protein too which if you can't produce is costly. Natural pork is in the highest demand and pork production can be very profitable. It also can be the lowest startup, except not when you factor in the feed you will most likely have to buy. Depends on location and the environment.

Goats and sheep because they are the cheapest to raise and quickly reproduce allowing quick turn arounds on investment and ability to build up numbers quickly. However they are very at risk for parasite infestation and most farmers use poisonous anthelmintic wormers that aren't even very effective.

But pretty much cows or pigs is the answer. Unless you live in dry lands areas though then goats and sheep.

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9771022/Revealed-3-in-4-of-Britains-danger-doctors-are-trained-abroad.html

The other point I was making was that  3rd-world workers are so unskilled in every category, not just language, that, inevitably, their work is usually  shoddy.

Well most of them were farmers so I bet you would be surprised at how good they are in the fields lol.

I can't say I endorse it, but mexican farm laborers and certain American farmers work themselves literally to death. In California especially mexican migrant farm laborers are the rule. Also at slaughterhouses which pay horribly now a days. Most people in my country, do not know what it's like to work out side all day in the hot sun.

as far as

- business plans
- spreadsheets that shows how this is profitable
- a couple of case studies

goes, it is an economic endeavor, something in which I am not adequately versed. I only have knowledge of agronomy and something of American farm economics as well as alternative production models and organic management that with the right marketing can produce a premium. In America unless you have a large acreage and have everything moving right along (a very large investment in the operation), the only way to survive is by cutting out the middle man and producing a premium product sold to the general public at a competitive price. You must have a market and if your market is a wholesale buyer then you need to have nearly epic volumes. An even better strategy is to further vertically integrate and market your products through a vending service, such as a food cart or possibly restaurant. How's getting payed 30+ dollars for a pound of goat instead of 3-or-4 on the conventional market?

I think though that it is possible to farm livestock small scale with a large volume of scale in countries where rice farming is profitable because usually the ground is lain bare for the winter, but a forage for cattle could be grown then and an orchard could be planted to forages in the summer and cattle could graze the larger orchard area of a farm and stay out of the hot summer heat. Coconuts, macadamia and banana can all be grown in bunches and I believe do fine under grass, at least for sure the coconuts and there are several other fruit species and vines that can be grown on that. For species intolerant of grass, these are brushy sections that get grazed far less times a year than grasslands, perhaps skipping some years.

I think the real key is empowering local people with a stable food source if the farm economy is poor. Meat is expensive and highly valued, I would think it would be harder to get help and support from the local people growing grains, but if you could employ people and be a source of protein for a community I think there would be more community support. I know that the water buffalo is becoming rare and it at least used to be that Australia was importing a lot of them alive as breeding stock. It is possible one could help farmers have more access to them for working. If farmers could work together and form a union then they could have a share owned herd that would allow them more efficient use of their land, more productive crops, healthier livestock, better incomes, less pollution, higher quality of life, the list is really honestly endless.

I think it's kind of ironic that Amish people don't use electricity but will eat white sugar and white flour. I think electric fences are real progress, I think they are the tool to ignite the next leap in human evolution.

rehabilitation. In her case I am assuming rehabilitation was recovering from the accident she had. Usually though the word is used with some scorn because it is often the term used to describe places where people go to recover from drug addiction.

My buddy in high school had to leave class every day early so he could go to rehab for marijuana haha.

And you are from the states? You must not spend very much time around this country.

Well, I don't want to argue, it's senseless. However I could point out that New Zealand's main economy is agricultural and last I heard about it the average dairy farmer there made 100 grand a year income.

Actually, farming is definitely the most profitable thing us humans can do besides mining. Mining and farming are how  the raw materials of wealth are created. Most people in the United States are not part of the wealth generating economy, they are part of the service economy. Lawyers don't contribute to the GDP.

Farming has an extremely steep and unforgiving learning curve. It would be very easy for eager newcomers to blow their load and lose all of it.

It takes about 5 years for most farms to even break even, if they ever do.

I think you underestimate how hard farmers work. Half of them are just plain psychotic about it. That's why there isn't enough new farmers. Farmers work themselves into early graves. Farm laborers work themselves into early graves. It's not something that you can just do in your 40's or 50's unless you got a lot of money to flush down the toilet. It's not something that you can just do in your teens and twenties unless you flush your current social life and the rest of your goddamn life down the toilet.

I mean some farmers go the corn planter rout, but who the hell would want to buy a million dollars worth of equipment to make a little better than minimum wage? Mechanics.

http://www.stockmangrassfarmer.com/articles/view.php?entryID=42

These people in mexico have a 250 acre farm that gross's 7 figures.

They graze all year long but feed some hay in winter.

Thank god all my wealth has a pulse and walks around on 4 legs.

I'm a milk pirate on the high seas of grass and briars.

Also been accused of being a hipster farmer.