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Dear Derek,

##### here from Newstalk National Radio in Ireland.

We are very keen to speak with you about your raw meat diet.

Would you be available to do a telephone interview please?

Our show, The Moncrieff Show, is one of Ireland's most popular afternoon programmes.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,


Here is a new interview prospect

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General Discussion / Re: Do glands regenerate after abuse?
« on: April 24, 2018, 03:46:09 am »
Five years of hormonal abuse can definitely cause major long term damage and I agree with Tyler, that it may take a couple of years maybe longer before the glands can regenerate after undergoing such prolonged abuse...Artificial hormone replacement should only be considered as a last resort for people already to far gone for natural rejuvenation protocol. For someone in their twenties I would recommend opting for a long term natural healing protocol, which includes large portion raw animal foods that include a good balance of Fats, glands and organ meat...along with an overall holistic lifestyle approach.

I am also a huge supporter of light therapy, and recommend a combination of regular nude sunbathing and Red light therapy to help maximize natural rejuvenation.

I would recommend at least a two year commitment to naturally addressing the issue before seeking out any other medical options, and if the glands are still capable of rejuvenation you should slowly begin to notice some improvements over the next few months.

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Off Topic / Re: Article recommending avoiding washing once a day
« on: April 24, 2018, 03:19:31 am »
I was a little perplexed in the fact that he seemed to stay well hydrated even without drinking any water. He follows the AV protocol of milk and fresh juices, and during his stay drank about a gallon and a half of milk, from a local farm and a good quantity of fresh juices made from a mixture of fresh citrus and vegetables. So overall it would seem he does get enough fluid through milk and juice....though I still claim that not everyone is as dairy or fructose tolerant as to be able to follow such a protocol long term.

My girlfriend gave him an ashiatsu deep tissue massage and noticed his bones and joints didn't pop or crack like most people, which is typically a good indication of being well hydrated.   

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Off Topic / Re: Article recommending avoiding washing once a day
« on: April 22, 2018, 10:48:19 am »
There are a lot of factors to consider regarding optimal skin conditioning. I do make sure to use food grade oils, and will use a cotton wash rag with water to help exfoliate in the shower. The balance likely is to be found between the extremes....there is on the one hand, composting dead skin cells coated with ones own biological secretions, leading to bacterial synthesis of vitamin D and perhaps a host of other yet to be understood beneficial elements...and on the other hand there are methods involving regular exfoliation of the skins surface, which is another way to similarly stimulate the growth of new healthy skin, and facilitate healthy body excretions from the pores.

Skin generally is a self regulating perpetually regenerating organ.....Idealistically, people who are clean on the inside and optimally nourished, such as the true Raw Purist; will, as animals in nature have generally more pristine skin excretions and thus have much less need to worry either way one chooses to handle the hygiene dichotomy...this hypothetical ideal naturally fresh human specimen, should be more free to decide what best to do more on what is personally pleasing, than what is biologically imperative for other less balanced beings to do in order to maintain skin health. 

An other slightly related point to make is that I regularly receive oil massages and using my home made food grade oil helps lubricate the skin to permit chaffing, while still allowing for enough friction to exfoliate the skin and stimulate new growth, along with the extra whole body benefits of deep tissue work.

    Sabertooth, I'd love to hear what your experiences were with your new carnivore friend.   Did you learn anything new, so to speak? 

Sv3rig stayed with me at my home for about a week last month, and I believe it was a good overall experience for both of us. Its hard to pinpoint exactly what I have learned from the meeting, I have become somewhat set in my ways for so long.... but I will admit he reminds me a lot of where I was a few years ago, when I was still enthusiastically absorbing relevant knowledge from all corners of the world, and attempting to share it with whoever would listen. Thats one of the primary reasons I reached out to help.

He has been following a more Primal AV style diet, and seems to be doing very well with it. He is a few years younger and has only been doing this diet for 2 years and I believe he learned much more from seeing what I do. I showed him the copious amounts of fat, organs, and blood from mature sheep I eat, and he enjoyed sampling everything I had to offer very much, saying it was some of the best tasting meat he has tried. 

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Off Topic / Re: Infrared experimentation/biohacking
« on: April 21, 2018, 09:43:16 am »
Ive tried to educate people about red light therapy for years, and very few people realize how safe and effective it can be for providing a general array of benefits. I bought a standard tan bed and converted it with Red light therapy bulbs and will use it regularly in the winter time when I cant lay out in the sun.

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Off Topic / Re: The correct way to eat oysters
« on: April 21, 2018, 09:36:18 am »
I make an entry point by smacking the very end a couple of times with the back end of a medium sized knife, then prying it open. Its real quick but it may cause shards of shell to fly around.

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Off Topic / Re: Article recommending avoiding washing once a day
« on: April 21, 2018, 09:25:50 am »
The Romans would use oil for cleaning.... covering themselves with olive oil and then scraping it off...

I haven't noticed any issues with rancidness, other than when I dont rinse off the oil will get into the cloths and oxidize...but its nothing that dosent come out in the wash. The skin naturally produces oils, and a healthy coating of oil is often necessary for preventing the skin from dehydrating.

There are elements in our own natural oils that promote beneficial micro flora, and when optimally healthy our body produces excretions tailor made to feed bacteria on the skin which produce the precursors to Vitamin D, pheromones, and other such positive stuff, that is in turn reabsorbed and utilized by the Body to promote optimal growth and exfoliation.

The process of cleansing is naturally self regulating for animals in the wild, but it becomes a bit confusing for humans because ideology of cleanliness is godliness, has obfuscated the reality of more down to earth forms of purity.
 
Im not entirely convinced that a little oxidation on the surface level of the skin is a bad thing??? perhaps the oxidation of our own natural oils, combine with probiotic bacterial activity, creates a synergistic effect that promotes healthy exfoliation and rejuvenation. 

I notice when my skin is too dry I burn more easily in the sun, then peal afterward but with a little of my homemade oil mixture I tend tan much easier without pealing. I believe something about the oil protects the skin from burning, allows for more optimal development of melanin, and for better absorption of bacterially produced fat soluble vitals.

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Off Topic / Re: Article recommending avoiding washing once a day
« on: April 19, 2018, 12:02:35 pm »
When im not feeling particularly dirty but need to freshen up so not to smell like an Old Ram, I will clean myself with oil, and its been very effective in maintaining good overall skin conditions. I prefer to not bath as often , but because Im a residential electrition who has to go into peoples homes, I have to keep fairly prim and proper and be respectful of my clients prejudice against strong mutton-ous emissions

I will use good oil such as coconut and rub it into the skin then rinse off in the shower with plain water. Recently Ive been experimenting with homemade blends inspired by Biblical Holy Oil, which from historical accounts were infusions of tree resin, olive oil, and various herbs. The oils will bind to dirt and chemicals and rinse away almost as good as soap, and it doesn't dry out and irritate the skin. Even if I have to use some soap to clean construction grease and grime off, oiling up right after helps replenish

Im working with a blend now that contains coconut oil, cacao butter, lanolin, sheep tallow, infused with a little myrrh, frankincense, and Kanabus. I also use the oil when I am going out in the sun to tan, and rub it into reddened sunburned skin. My girlfriend is a massage therapist who also regularly anoints me with the holy oil for deep tissue massage.

Along with the help of some patchouli Zum brand clothes soap  Ive managed to live like a dirty hippy and still pass for a classy hipster

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Off Topic / Re: 8 million Brits no longer eat meat....
« on: April 17, 2018, 02:55:50 am »
I always enjoy musing upon the possibility of the emergence of new religions full of reverence for the mystery, with a touch of sentimental nostalgic longing to return to ones roots, with a sense of this life being connection with the cosmos and each soul a reflection of creation incarnate...But at the end of such fanciful threads of mystic yarn is the back to reality noose and the cynical resignation that any such attempt to openly establish such bygone, raw experiential based religions in the first world will be met by great resistance under the current technocratic world order. Instead of establishing a neo-pagan order it may be more effective to simply abide in the undergrowth and hidden knolls, live out the dreams of the ancestor spirits by what ever means available and spread memes full of reverence for the lore and legends which abound from around this little world of ours.

The Grain Growers monolithic God came to power during the dawning neolithic age, and long ago snuffed out the fading light of the Great Pan spirit of paleolithic pantheism. Though Pans influence has waned his spirit was never outright vanquished, and under the right circumstances he will return to dance with delight, breed freely the Forrest nymphs and liberate the domesticated souls from the Animal Farms, Rat Races, and other such traps that are ensnaring the children of the free spirit. 

Where the meaning is to be found in such a mishmash of wants, dreams, intentions, aspirations and such, is never very clear???

Returning to pantheism, and the idea that everything is manifestation of the divine energy playing out different rolls. Its to the heart of to Live and Let Live, and in the spirit of it takes all kinds to make a world. Everything is happening in the world at once and this is too much for the individuals within humanity to process rationally...this could be in part why we collectively act in ways that fracture the world soul into various parts that then engage in the vedic Brahma drama being played out, with each of us actors and portrayals.

Some are espousing a way of life that is the antithesis of the spirit of the others and so the drama is played out.... people take sides, pic teams and place bets....those who are emotionally drawn in, join in the free for all that is life. Those who loose interest in the game fade out into the darkness to be recycled as compost from which the phoenix will rise into rebirth. Through such intercourse on all levels, the molecular threads of DNA, combine with electrical impulsive emotion, the will to power and creative vital force to weave a tapestry so integral and vast it could never be appreciated in its entirety.

On the bright side there is power to create and the freedom live in accord with the biorhythms of nature, is inherent in every living being under the sun and beyond...and on the dark side is the power to destroy and the freedom to suffer in discord when one strays outside the harmonic boundaries of lifes ephemeral and delicate balance. To be able to enjoy, honor and revel in the dynamic interplay between such extremities is a way of being more in tune with age old methods used by past sages in their efforts to discover the most interesting and fulfilling ways to spend a lifetime.

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Off Topic / Re: 8 million Brits no longer eat meat....
« on: April 16, 2018, 11:01:02 pm »
Here is the catchy theme song for the meat free Monday movement. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tPmyRIoUGQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx64I5oZ95Q

I cant for the life of me understand how the people of the UK fall prey to this kind of preschool level, pea brained pre-enlightenment propaganda. In the age of robin hood vegetarianism was imposed upon the peasants by threat of death. If you killed a rabbit to feed your starving family and were caught, the kings men would drag you from your home kill you in front of the entire village...Now days it would appear the proletariat is being subjugated by less overtly tyrannical, Fabian tactics. Using celebrities and hipster culture to sell the idea that vegetarianism is trendy, virtuous, and healthy...when in reality it isnt!

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Off Topic / Re: 8 million Brits no longer eat meat....
« on: April 16, 2018, 10:07:50 am »
In riffing with this basic theme presented in the article, Its difficult to not draw the conclusion that there is, on some level, some kind of battle for control of the current logos, being fought out in the realm of multi medial mindscape, between myriads of various conflicted agendas which permeate the deeper undercurrents that drive these topical trends. From this primeval, us vs them, linear thinking, point of view the reality of life on the ground level is often oversimplified, into conspiratorial ideas of how there is some deliberate effort by those with control of the resources to cull and weaken the entire human population through means of tainted meats and vegetarian induced impotence, along with a number of other devilishly devised devices.

We are all inundated with ancestral memes which can often more or less limit our ability to view the state of affairs in the human world with an untainted eye. The Old Worlds control grid Modus Operandi played out in the tales of Robin Hoods fighting with the Sheriff over the right to hunt in the kings Forest.... this is in someways a past reflection of the current struggles between the New World Powers, that are attempting to dominate all of the earth mothers children under a newfangled half-baked technocratic rule.... and the right of the Common individual, who still possesses enough of a remnant of sapien common sense, to say Fuck that Malthusian shit and that dump truck of lies it rides around on, Im going to eat, breed, and live as my own inner nature will have it.

Perhaps there is some collective subconscious choice which is beyond human understanding or ability to control, as to why individuals would unite under the banner of ideals and lifestyles, (such as the first world consumers of the UK who play at being vegetarian curious for these misanthropic surveys) which to many seem totally detrimental to the flourishing of our species...Extinction but for the race of God goes the survivors of lifes ordeal...Perhaps these divergences of dichotomy manifest in all these experimental modes of human life currently ongoing, is natures way of testing the limits of biological tolerance to extremity, while inducing ever greater mutagenic multiplicity that will eventually coalesce in an evolutionary quickening that will in time evoke a quantum leap in the evolution of hyper-proactive genetic intelligent design. The biofeedback system between mind, emotion, body,cosmos and the conscious structuring of the sacred code of life will under the right conditions spawn an entirely new species of human capable of adapting to and thriving under future circumstances which nobody alive today could even begin to fathom.   

So with all that going on upstairs, I try to no longer get drawn into limiting mind states being cultivated by the media propagandist whose articles pollute the blogosphere , though it is still tempting to rail out in rage against these confetti corporate magazine propagated informational warfare subliminal virtue signals being passed off as an objective newsworthy study.....on whatever social media platform available.

Let Sir Paul and other such effete ilk masquerade as smug saviors, heaven sent, from their faux ivory towers to reform the carnal nature of humankind. It would really be kind of funny if only so many people didn't take them so seriously. Its all enough to make you "Give in and Cry Live and let Die"

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Off Topic / Re: 8 million Brits no longer eat meat....
« on: April 14, 2018, 10:08:19 pm »
(Proviso) The Views of myself may not reflect the experience of others living in the UK, but from my limited time there I developed a very bleak impression of the place in regards to the average person being able to obtain and afford a quality paleo diet.

In all fairness, I believe much of the meat and animal products sold in the UK at the big chain groceries taste horrid, and cost too much for the poor quality being offered. Many parts of the western world are becoming an Agenda 21 driven food desert. Those who eat the increasingly tainted commercial meat are on the cusp of taking almost as much risk to their health, as those who are eliminating meat from the diet.

These kind of reports are simply invented by either blatantly duplicitous or latently ignorant sub-intellectual hacks, as a means of creating derision within the foodie ethos. In a truly free society of equals we all should join together and support each others right to chose what kind of diet we personally follow, and instead of bickering endlessly over trifles, both those who identify as meat eaters and those who identify as vegitarian could find common ground in championing a common movement that would provide the highest quality and ethically cultivated of both plant and animal foods to the entire society.

No matter what diet you chose we should be able to agree that its in the best interest of everyone, if we could work together to insure the best raw materials will be readily and affordably available for everybody. Then with a level playing field and open source access to a cornucopia of wondrous abundance we can live, let live, and let the results of peoples personal lifestyle choices speak for themselves ( without these corporately controlled media driven intrusion of Idiosyncratic Malthusian crimes against human intelligence!   

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Off Topic / Re: Study shows eating all cooked meat is unhealthy
« on: April 14, 2018, 06:37:23 am »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5612997/Why-NEVER-order-steak-done.html

Note how they randomly criticise ALL red meat but omit that the study only focused on cooked meats of various kinds.

Not only was this study based on cooked meat, but I doubt that the meat eaters were low carb paleo...Eating cooked meat in combination with large amounts of cooked carbs is a receipt for major long term problems. How many of these people who suffered health issues attributed to meat would eat their well done steak with a huge cooked potato, bread roll and sugary beverage.

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Hot Topics / Re: Fruitarian interview in DM
« on: April 08, 2018, 09:42:40 pm »
Yeah, I also got an incredible sense of smell from going fruitarian for 8 months or so some 20yrs ago. (books by Hilton Hotema) To this day my sense of smell has not diminished much, and yes it has its down side in that I can smell just about everything far too well.
My sense of taste and smell improved just as dramatically while following a raw meat based diet....so It seems more reasonable to suppose that by elimination of cooked processed foods and avoiding artificial flavor in general, one can reset ones taste sensitivity on a variety of raw based diets ranging from meat heads to vegetarians to full fledged fruites.

Also a number of conditions attributed to be cured by fruit based diets, I believe are simply a result of eliminating other troublesome foods, rather than some magical really properties of fruit alone. "The 34-year-old says her migraines, acne and yeast infections have all cleared up since she has followed the diet." These conditions were likely triggered from eating the wrong kind of foods to begin with...an elimination of grain, soy, cooked starch, vegetable oils, and the plethora of other inflammatory foods, people falsely believe are healthy for human consumption, can resolve a number of issues regardless of if you replace those foods with meat based or fruit based diets.

Its a safe bet that, If she went into a well balance meat heavy paleo diet instead her results would be much better overall and more sustainable long term. Sure it is true that such a diet, can in the short term eliminate the sources of inflammation and alleviate its manifested chronic symptoms, through catabolic removal of metabolic antigenic waste,  but in the long term fruit based diets offer little in the way of anaboic elements which the body needs to rebuild and sustain itself optimally over the course of a lifetime.


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Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« on: April 08, 2018, 08:33:46 am »
Reggie Watts has cultivated the art of the profane to a high level of satirical sophistication


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJQU22Ttpwc

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: What Fat To Supplement With?
« on: March 22, 2018, 09:56:49 pm »
Ive eaten goat.

Goats and sheep have similar fats, though certain sheep breeds typically fatten up on pasture much more than any other animals, and sheep fat in general has a much more pure and cleaner tasting fat, while goats tend to be a little gamy like Deer.

Generally speaking compared to waxy beef suet Goat fat is much softer and easier to digest.

I would also recommend trying to get older more mature animals, because pasture raised animals typically dont start to add large amounts of fat to their frame until they are fully mature, and they dont reach peak saturation of fat soluble vitamins and elements such as CLA until they reach about 3 years of age.

Some of the issues with beef fat is that much of it is butchered too young. Young grass fed  beef tends to be much leaner, and have tougher waxier fat, while I have had some older beefs that have had a much softer and more buttery fat....But since its often so difficult to find the butter fat beef animals, I have settled on the more reliable and consistently delicious fatty mutton.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: What Fat To Supplement With?
« on: March 22, 2018, 06:42:13 am »
I eat copious amounts of sheep suet and caul fat. It tends to be much softer, creamier and less waxy than beef suet.

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Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: March 16, 2018, 10:45:56 pm »
Ive made contact, he will be in Kentucky around the end of the month, I should be able to help, the timing may even correspond with my next kill, so there should be fresh blood and meat to share.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Safe Stool Frequency
« on: March 16, 2018, 09:22:38 am »
Butter can for some people, gunk up the works and cause congestive issues.

Too many eggs can also be an issue.

For LC or ZC to work long term you have to have the proper balance of Fats and proteins, and should also make sure to have the right balance of organ meats.

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Personals / Contacting Sv3rige
« on: March 16, 2018, 09:07:05 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGDxjh7svtc

I would like to reach out to Sv3ride and offer a ride through my part of the world, already responded to the comment section of the video, and was wondering if anyone here has a direct line of communication to reach him?

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Welcoming Committee / Re: hey from Wales!
« on: March 15, 2018, 06:32:54 am »
Id recommend starting with a nice fatty cut of pasture sheep. Wales is full of Mutton. Just start looking up local farms on the web and start making inquiries.

https://blackwelshlamb.com

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Personals / Re: Searching for Greener Pastures
« on: March 14, 2018, 11:07:44 pm »

Perhaps the quest for the perfect meat is like vainly pursuing ephemeral phantoms. Driven by eternal insatiable hunger for the mythic Shangri La fauna, grazing the fields of the pure land, in yonder obscurity, somewhere way beyond the lost horizon. It is possible to some degree there are natural variations in taste that do not correspond to any serious quality issue and are beyond what is realistically possible to control, but I've been around the chopping block enough to know the difference between the seasonal variations in taste and the unique flavors of individual animals. Plus I often find a lot of cyst in the liver and lungs of animals that also tend to have a much poorer flavor profile, so Im pretty sure there is a real issue with quality in the farmlands of America.

Sometimes the Amish or other well intentioned farmers will buy farmland already rundown, depleted, has poor water quality, limited forage variety etc.... so that even if they are running a clean operation and everything looks good at first glance there still can be issues with pasture quality. 

A dogs readiness to eat anything is not typically a good indication of anything. Domesticated dogs will eat practically anything without much discernment, I feed the meat I dont like to the dogs....as likely did our ancestors who first domesticated the canines.

Cats on the other hand seem much more finicky about their food. My cats will hunt and eat wild chipmunks, sometimes only eating the head or top half of the animal. They seem totally uninterested in any of the lamb or beef I have offered them, but will eat chicken and tuna. Of course both my dogs and cats were raised on Kibble so their instinctive drives are not primarily ideal.

My instinctive eating habits have evolved so remarkably over the last few years and my sense of taste and smell are much more keen than I can ever remember growing up. Growing up in a house of smokers, constantly covered with artificial cleaning agents and deodorant products, eating processed crap....every piece of meat would be cooked with barbecue, covered with seasoning or covered with ketchup. My senses like the majority of other humans growing up in similar conditions had been handicapped. 

Now days I can detect what my girlfriend has eaten hours earlier from the slightest scent, the very faintest hint of a spice left on the cutting board triggers a strong taste response, the most subtle of flavors stand out in ways that never occurred before. Even the differences in body odors of other people are more pronounced. This last animal was a very mild tasting ram, feed on very clean pasture, but I noticed that the blood has very little salt taste, and Im pretty sure that this farmer never set out any salt for it. Other animals that have limited access to clean water and drink mainly from stagnant ponds will have the taste of stagnant water in their meat. Animals that live on over grazed land and are supplemented poor quality hay will taste horrible... while those who have access to clean lush pasture with natural spring water and only supplemented with good hay will typically be very good. This is now common sense to me, but it took a few years of tasting a variety of different quality's and kinds of animal before being able to better discern between the Good the Bad and the Ugly.   

This is all purely anecdotal generalization, and for sure there are many other factors to be considered, but there are seems to be differences between the hormonal conditions of the animals and how my own hormonal balance manifest. Castrated males seem to be hormonally neutral having little effect on my own testosterone. While pregnant or nursing females seem to have a testosterone inhibiting factor. Intact mature males that are separated from females and allowed live fat, lonely, and lazy have a little effect on testosterone, while mature males that are competing and mating in a herd environment seem to have a larger effect. Some unbred ewes that are not nursing will have a strong aphrodisiac effect similar to the intact males. There is a vital essence transference that is more distinct and noticeable when one lives from consuming one whole animal after another, as opposed to those who eat random bits and pieces for may different animals during the same time. Im convinced that at least on a subtle level the hormonal, glandular, vital, and perhaps even what the ancient hunter gatherers labeled spiritual qualities are passed on from the flesh of the devoured to the devourer.

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When so many basic raw paleo caveats go unheeded there will be consequences, but for those who follow the basic sourcing safety protocols trichinosis shouldn't be an issue. 

Who knows what other unholy and abhorrent food crime combinations that were going down the hatch of those who were sickened...unless anyone has access to the particular individuals involved we can only guess.

Im fascinated with many facets of this "parasitic vs symbiotic" dichotomy,  neither extremity of this spectrum is well defined...one creatures pathogen is an others symbiant.  I am fairly convinced the words simply do not exist, that could better expose these falsely perceived actualities that continue to obfuscate the enterprise of evolving human reason, more in accord with "true nature'. I insist there is a harmonic method, embedded like an unseen cyst into the seeming madness, that remains daftly misunderstood by apish minds. The carrion worms are an integral part the morpho-genetic resonance based ecosystem which gives all life its shape and directs its evolution.

Purpose is a loaded term and many in the scientific community do not openly discuss matters fathoming the purpose of life in general. Nor is it very fashionable to dwell too raptly upon humankind's kinship with the nematodes....do not forget all vibrates evolved from oceanic worms...In mainstream science there is little interest in looking into the possibility that parasites and pathogens are not aberrations, fluked into the world without some divine and beatific purpose...From a certain limited perspective the ever turning worm has a dark and sinister purpose, but these "conquering/concurring" worms are none the less just as necessary as any other of earths creatures, in maintaining the balance of life.     

These craven devourers be them embedded underground or within the very flesh of our own body, act to integrate of the shadow side of life. By consuming sickend flesh which is no longer vibrant enough to be viable, they transform it into the fertile void of death so that it can be reborn as life anew. This receptivity and balanced interchange between life and death, light and dark, energy and void is occurring on all scales from the micro to the macro. There is a broad spectral balanced interchange between all interacting lifeforms that so marvelous and complex it cannot be seen, understood, or described in its entirety.

Even the most farout Esoteric metaphysical viewpoint only scratches the surface of unfathomable depths that contain the totality of lifes ocean....and yet on the other side of this macro-scope, a more focused "earth bounded" realism, attempts to parse out, perceive and profess specific rational explanations for observable phenomenon. This brings things back to the topic of microscopic worms which are hosted by terrestrial omnivores.... What purposes can we speculate their existence and persistence signifies, on both the macro and micro scales???

Could these worms modulate and moderate the behavior of these ravaging omnivores in subtle ways which allow for an over all more balanced macrocosm? Could these organisms work on the micro scale to evoke detox and immune modulations within individual animals that happen to be living in unbalanced states? Its feasible that there could be a number of very different yet equally valid and meaningful proposes, simultaneously manifested in the parasitic infestations of single animals as well as in entire ecosystems.

Omnivores that carry trichinosis may have a built in moderator which prohibits them from going entirely cannibalistic. Craven swine that develop a taste for their own kind, if unchecked would eventually become inundated with auto infection to the point of either wasting away to death or else having to purge and seek out cleansing plant foods in order to bring it back into balance. When too many animals overstay their welcome and abuse the earths bounty, it is the worms task to send them the eviction notice. Certain limits of tolerance are set for every creature in every environment and there are constantly occurring, simultaneous dynamic negotiation, gambles, and defiance of jungle law, that test those limits to the max. Many factors which shift the balance and rewrite the laws are eternally at play and so it is difficult to identify single "cause effect" relationship without narrowing the scope to the point that any greater truth one could extrapolate becomes lost.

In the wild, apex predators regularly hunt and kill trichinosis infected omnivores, yet they seem to be able to mitigate the worm without suffering mass die offs and such. Part of the magic of DNA is in its ability to modulate the disparate discord of constantly unfolding chaos into a resonance with the necessities of survival...Exactly how this is accomplished is still very much shrouded in misunderstanding, and I have serious doubts that "Random Mutation" alone, is somehow an acceptable explanation for evolution.

Generational exposure to pathogenic agents alters the immune system and epi-genetically leads to intelligently designed mutation and proactive morpho-resonance adaptation. The body tissues and micro RNA of the host omnivore may actually transfer its own learned immunity directly to the "essence" of the predatory animal through a kind of "trans-genetic osmosis". Here again we reach the limits of a mechanistic language to describe a view of life that is more synergistically evolved.

Back to the topic of the sick swine eating party goers...now that some of the complexities have been half baked we may begin to see the larger perspective. The people most sickened likely were not life long raw apex predators or raw omnivores. They probably grew up on cooked foods and so were never inoculated by the transference of raw immune stimulating factors, that one gets when consuming healthy raw animals that have already been exposed all the naturally occurring worms and microbes which inhabit their local habitat. They were almost certainly not conceived by and breastfed by generations of people lived raw and indigenous lifestyles who would of been able to accumulate trans generational immune factors to protect against deathly reactions to a little toxic swine flesh...yadda yadda yadda

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