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Science / Re: Betaine for working out and for weak stomach acid
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:04:10 am »
I love cooked tripe. It is said it takes on the flavor of the spices you use to prepare it so maybe that is why you didn't like it. I've also eaten tons of raw tripe in my smoothies. Worn out a lot of blenders and food processors grinding it up...

Is the raw tripe you use fully washed?

My stomach smoothies contain unwashed tripe along with the intestines which also contain digestive juices....tripe sold at the market is typically washed to the point of sterility and does not contain the living bacteria and enzymes that raw unwashed guts contain.

The bacterial content is just one factor involved in priming the gut for optimal digestion, there are also valuable enzymes contained within the inner liner of unwashed intestines, as well as prebiotic fiber in the intestinal juices. Though most of the living soup of raw consumed animal guts gets broken down by the stomach acids, some of its living essence passes through to the lower intestines. There are some living bacteria, prebiotic fiber and enzymatic co-factors that make it through....The combination of these elements act as a highly nutritive substrate while at the same time inoculating the lower intestines with the micro flora necessary for better synthesis vitamins, enzymes and enteric neurotransmitters.

Science / Re: Betaine for working out and for weak stomach acid
« on: June 18, 2018, 11:14:26 pm »
I thought I should point out that wild animals do not necessarily eat the whole animal. I remember reading ages ago about lions and other carnivores like cheetahs carefully removing the part containing the faeces, for example. Other animals such as killer whales often just eat the tongue of raw whale calves. Cats generally eat the whole animal. I think it's a question of the size of the digestive tract of the prey. If it is small, it's not an issue, but intestines of  larger herbivores  contain lots of faecal and vegetable matter, which might put off some carnivores.

My main point is regarding the importance of consuming at least some portion of raw bacterial and enzymatically rich intestinal material. The average person does not consume any truly raw and biologically alive guts...the whales will eat fish whole, cats and wolves eat small animals whole, and many carnivores will eat at least some portion of guts from time to time. Small amounts from time to time may be all that is needed in order to prime a carnivores guts with the optimal microbe balance....but for people who have lived in too sterile conditions and have already developed severe enzymatic insufficiency it may be helpful to supplement with larger amounts of prebiotic ingesta, along with consuming intestines, pancreas, liver, other glands over a period of time in order to establish an optimal gut microbiome.

Im not advocating eating large amounts of fecal matter, and personally will remove the manure from the lower intestines,  and discard most of the liquid ingesta....but I do not wash the intestines, preferring to consume at least some of the enzymatic gooey residue which coats the inside of the digestive tract. These raw probiotic and prebiotic elements must have been a part of our evolutionary diet in some way, and are largely missing from modern versions of the paleo diet.

Science / Re: Betaine for working out and for weak stomach acid
« on: June 18, 2018, 12:02:01 pm »
The ingesta typically taste like a combination of bile and gentian root bitters, and has a mildly tangy acidity that lingers in the back of the throat. The small intestines are usually full of liquified greens in digestive juice, that can be collected as I strip off the lining of fat from the intestine. I have frozen the liquid into cubes and thaw it with a little water occasionally....sometimes i add a little lemon juice to it. I had already been eating blended raw stomach and intestines for a few years before consuming the intestinal contents, so was already somewhat acclimated to the taste, which to me isn't bad, and I actually have cravings for it from time to time....

I feel that there could be beneficial effects for other people to supplement similarly with fresh stomach, intestinal juice, pancreas....etc....basically the whole animal diet. It seems feasible that consuming small amounts of predigested plant mater  , along with the stomach, glands and organs of a healthy ruminating animal, can provide what is needed for the building and maintenance of optimal gut health. The plant matter and bacterial elements provide prebiotic and enzymatic qualities far superior and more holistic than any of these resistance starch schemes, or other such supplemental recommendations for optimizing the microbiome.

Though I am convinced there are merits in these preliminary findings regarding ingesting the entire raw unwashed digestive tracts of ruminating animals, I am not yet sure about finding other test subjects willing or able to follow through with experiments that would corroborate my own reports. Its very likely that such protocol if followed through would be able to cure a number of gut related conditions such as ulcers, crohn's, colitis, general digestive weakness, microbiome imbalances....ect. This line of research may be extremely beneficial for treating the elderly, or people heavily damaged with antibiotics and are no longer capable of naturally producing sufficient enzymes for optimal digestion.

I laugh at how the mainstream medical establishment is just now beginning to promote things like probiotic and fecal transplants...They are packaging and selling gut bacteria rebalancing protocols, which could be much more effectively and economically obtained from ingesting the whole raw digestive tracts of healthy animals.

Science / Re: Betaine for working out and for weak stomach acid
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:50:11 am »
I believe that stomach acid insufficiency can be a sign of mineral imbalance or deficiency...its difficult to tell for sure if it is a cause or a symptom There seems to be a catch 22 in that being mineral deficient inhibits the production of digestive enzymes that help breakdown foods for optimal mineral absorption.

There are typically a number of factors involved in these conditions that prevent an easy fix, like supplementation of a combination of enzymes or minerals, from being a long term solution.

I suffered from weak digestion for years and believe it was from a combination of being mineral and bacterial deficient, along with congested liver and eating the wrong foods.

I would recommend if possible trying fresh bile, I know there is freeze dried stuff on the market but if you really want to get the digestion going without risk of burning a whole in your gut, the raw stuff works much better.

I noticed a combination of fresh liver, pancreas, blood, and a shot of bile will allow me to gorge on large amounts of meat and fat without issue. I will also eat bones dissolved in vinegar for added minerals, and eat raw stomach smoothies for good bacteria. The green ingesta juice collected from the intestines is full of digestive enzymes and can be used as a natural digestive aid. (for those brave enough to try it, a shot of green intestine juice, with fresh squeezed lemon, and a raw egg on top is a good digestive primer before a large meal)

Perhaps during transitional phases some supplementation may be helpful, but try to opt for a more diet based approach if possible.

The idea of intelligent design manifest in ways that superseded the limitations of the genetic blueprint model of understanding of how the spirit of life was "created"/"evolved". There are many semantical hangups around the concept of  "intelligent design", stemming from the indoctrination of most western science into a dogmatical mechanistic Universal misconception, that "intelligence has be created", when it is more feasible that the intelligent structuring of the genetic molecule organically evolved from its own inner beginning as primitive strands of self organizing, free associating RNA, before forming itself into the increasingly complex DNA superstructures which eventually lead to the genesis of self aware multicellular organisms.

There is simply no need for the myth of a designer/creator when viewing life as a sui generis phenomenon, where the fundamental energy of the cosmos crystallizes itself within the living genetic matrix. Creating the complexities found within all of lifes forms through a process of ever evolving feedback mechanisms, which attain higher degrees of intelligence through the succession of transgenerational reproductive synthesis.

Its also very misleading to view all the living organisms as separate entities, whose existence can be entirely explained by the mainstream modes of darwinian evolution. The idea of "natural selection" in which the divergent strains of DNA, we call separate species, are all randomly mutating, competing and evolving as separate and autonomous"creatures", is an archaic and oversimplified theory which needs to be seriously revised if biological scientific understanding is to progress to its next stage of evolution.

The question shouldn't be a matter of "if life has within it an element of intelligent design?", instead one should ask exactly when did the building blocks first become alive and once alive when it they begin to manifest intelligence? There must of been a transition from ignorant and Random connections between proto Genes within the primordial soup, to the emergence of intelligently designed micro RNA managed epigenetic adaptations.

Perhaps there are yet to be discovered biofeedback mechanisms which direct the actions of epigenetic adaptation, in ways still not understood. Our modern instruments are not sophisticated enough, nor our top researchers endowed enough with the visionary intelligence needed to formally discover these deeper connections, behind what drives the creative genesis of life.

The mainstream genetic model is a primitive stick figurine representation, of forces beyond comprehension. There are theoretical assumptions as to how exactly the blue print of life was originally drafted....the mechanistic tic tock view seems to prevail in much of academia...synthesised proteins regulated by a clockwork, endless junk gene jargon. Much of what is taught in the universities regarding biology is fascinating...the cellular models full of organelles, the micro machines transporting proteins to and fro...yet behind all the interesting forms and formula taught to the children at school, the origin of the living creation remains elusive.

The idea of sudden planetary level genetic shifts, isn't so far fetched once it is realized how interconnected everything is... periods of hyper-speciation, collective epigenetic mutation, evolutionary quickening have always occurred and will continue to occur. To what degree these events shape life on earth is not certain, and much of the evidence is not accessible to our instruments and so can only be speculated upon.

Earth life has undergone inumerable wave of mutilation events....triggered by innumerable factors....over innumerable ages. Each epic event encounter leaving indelible marks upon the genetic codes of the mutated, mutilated, and adaptive. In the aftermath of each generations apocalypse, life's lessons are learned....then burned and buried into genes, passed to the next generation. Somewhere out of dark and obscure origin the freedom of choice is formed, in the binary decisions "to be latent?" or "to be active".  The primordial building blocks that once seemed merely mindless and randomly self replicating automata, had awoken into intelligently reactive self aware creators of their own destiny.

These feedback Mechanisms were developed on the cutting edge between life and death, as it moved through thriving to dieng some point the accumulation of beneficial mutation reached a critical mass, becoming intelligently capable of perceiving environmental demands and proactively modulating the genetic code in a kind of educated guess as to what the most beneficial mutation may be. The genes of the most successful of these early attempts were shared by survivors in viral fashion from form to form, infecting the future generation with a greater will and innate capacity to survive. This spirit, once formatted; replicated and transfromed itself into the whole of the Gaian matrix.

Its important to note that this capacity for intelligent design which directs the course of evolution is in no ways is above so is below.....The intelligence of the Genetic code can be related in some ways to the intelligence of the humans it created.... much in the same way our theories of how the universe works are in many ways based on "educated guesses", the way genes are modified through biofeedback guided epigenetic adaptation, is based upon educated guesses which draw upon genetically embedded latent lessons of what worked in the past. Sometimes these guesses are wrong and the environment changes unexpectedly....or else there is some glitch in the basic program that inhibits optimal adaptation from such cases of failure to properly adapt, natural selection is used to eliminate the non viable experiments. Though natural selection does play a key role in the process of evolution, its accompanying theory of mutation being entirely random is a baseless assumption.

Just as human experimentations have basic theories and hypotheses behind them, it is possible that these mutations are not totally random and are under the creative effort of an undiscovered intelligence. Also, just as we can never fully predict the outcome of our own intelligently designed experimentations, neither could the aspirations of our genetic forbearers ever predict the nature of the progeny their efforts produced....and just as the lower forms are entirely unaware of the creative intelligence of the higher forms, perhaps there is an even greater intelligence at the superorganism level that is way beyond our own awareness....if such a superintelligence did exist it may not even be able to perceive of us on a human level, much in the same way from our humanly jaded perspective, we could never perceive the true nature of the awareness of the lower forms.(as is below so is above, ad infinitum)

Health / Re: Cancer - Solutions?
« on: June 09, 2018, 03:54:30 am »
At first do no harm...if the doctors haven't already started aggressive treatments, then I would vehemently warn against having surgery, Chemo, or radiation.

From my experience its better to do nothing than it is to start cutting. A friend of mine has had baseball sized tumors in his lungs for over 20 years, and refuses to let the doctors do anything, because he watched two of his brothers die shortly after beginning cancer treatments. The doctors told him 20 years ago that if he didnt let them operate he would be dead in 6 month....He is still alive , while everyone else in his family that went through the treatments died.

Though there are always exceptions and each case is different but from what I have seen, the people who refuse any treatment seem to live longer and have a better overall quality of life than the ones who are given drugs and surgery.

People can contain tumors and even cure themselves with lifestyle changes, but typically once they begin cutting on you its only a mater of time before the cancer spreads and becomes more aggressive.

General Discussion / Re: Raw, untreated water phenomenon
« on: June 09, 2018, 03:22:05 am »

I use a Nikken waterfall in my home. When I cant get out to a spring and collect water into 5 gallon glass jugs, I will buy local spring water in plastic jugs and run it through the Nikken. Its not Ideal but its not always easy to make the hour drive to fill up from the spring, and though there isn't any absolute proof, I believe that the carbon and ceramic filter substrate would bind to and filter out most plastic residue leached from the bottles...

Plus in the basin there are mineral rocks, and I have also added shungite stones as well to further condition the water....The taste is great, and I think the mineral balance is much better than in the more hardcore ceramic filters designed to remove fluoride and chlorine...but I figure for filtering out sediments and plastic residue the nikken a good choice, considering the water I put in is not treated and already considerably pure.

If you cant get spring water and are relying on filtered tap water then you might what to check out the higher end ceramic gravity filters, then use mineral rock in the water basin to remineralize.

Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« on: June 07, 2018, 05:07:43 am »
I insist that a broader historical perspectives could be helpful, in understanding what is currently happening on the world stage. There are a number of parallels to ancient Rome for example. Rome being an empire that was at times ruled by aristocrats, other times it more resembled a populist Republic, and when times got really desperate the Praetorian Cohort would step in to install its own deep state agents into power.

Todays drama is nothing new...during the rise of Caesar the aristocracy planted fake news and hired provocateurs to convince the public that he was a tyrant...while Ceasar pandered to the military and gained populist support...The opposition even made fun of Caesar's bad comb over, and gossiped about his sex life...

The same dynamic tensions between the populist, the aristocrats, and the praetorians that made and broke the Rome Empire are very much at play in today's world...only the labels have been changed and the inter-relationships obfuscated in order to hide the fact that a Republic by day can also simultaneously act as an Empire by night. The truth is that much of what goes on in the relationship between the government and its people is built upon unspoken and tacit arrangements..... the real low down of which are in the best interests of all sides to keep hidden from the outside world.

So in this atmosphere of Coup Coup land there is a deliberate and willful ignorance perpetrated by all sides that prevents most people from getting a fair assessment of what really went down during the "Election" of 2016. From my prospective a Praetorian style Military coup was initiated by those like General Flynn, Admiral Rogers, and the legions of white hats who were mobilized by the voice and spirit of people like Alex Jones, in order to halt a regime that went totally Rogue.

Trump for a long time spoke out openly against the current establishment, and wanted to make a Run years ago, but was too aware of how the system was rigged so that he wouldn't be allowed a fair shot...The deep state was too powerful...During the last administration a resistance movement began to build, and an outright rebellion began within the intelligence services. The NSA was likely taken over by the white-hats.... the whole Snowden saga was likely a false flag in which the CIA used Snowden a black hat tool in order to weaken and try to regain control of the NSA. The info Snowden Released, though full of nuanced details, wasn't anything people like Alex Jones had not already made public years ago. Assange was also fed information through the white hat resistance movement, used to undermine the power of the regime. General Flynn openly rebelled against the administration and refused to continue to arm the mercenaries in the middle east.

The stage was then set and the role was cast.....countless agents worked to lay the groundwork for a "Greater Plan". With the groundwork in place the Generals and their legions briefed Trump of the Plan and insured him that the voting machines would be un-rigged, and he would actually have a fair chance of winning...then it was game on from there on.

This may not be a very popular theory, but it seems as plausible as any explanation.... There was likely a drastic covert military intervention which prevented the regime from maintaining its hold of the executive branch, neither side will ever admit to this for their own separate reasons . The losers do not want to admit that they tried to steal the election and were stopped by military intelligence operatives...and so they are crying Russia Russia Russia in order to distract their own constituents from the Treason which was perpetrated when the nomination was stolen....While the winners want to keep up the illusion of Trump being the front guy, a business guy who will make a better deal with the rest of the world, insisting that the election was fair and legitimate, while playing down the fact that much of the executive branch is now under military occupation.....Congress will not even begin to touch this issue with a thousand foot pole, because both parties were so involved in the corruption of the last regime that any such investigations would indict half the Government for blackmailing, bribing or cheating the other half. 

This whole thing on some level is a farce, a conspiracy, a confederacy of dunces... yet in the midst of the Chaos and confusion the free world continues to turn, and though some of big changes promised at the FDA, CDC, and other rogue agencies are slow going, there is still a hope that those involved in the "Greater Plan" have heard our cries and in the next few years gradually the swamp will be drained, and the new guard will restructure the system more fairly.

Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« on: June 06, 2018, 09:24:18 am »
There is no limit to humans ability for self deception and duplicity....this is what gives conspiratorial beliefs some degree of validity...The majority of the seemingly significant events in human history are basically a collective of subjective interpretational consensus.

The subjectivity of all things in no way diminishes the power of false beliefs. As far as human affairs go, Objective truths are not anymore powerful than subjective untruths. Even if the underlying fact patterns are somehow logically twisted by biased minds into the appearance of some grand conspiracy, that doesn't negate the power of such a belief to take hold of the zeitgeist...such ad hoc memes arise organically out of the aether and work in mysterious ways upon the sub-rational elements of human kind, evoking primal limbic-centric emotions into action and leading to dramatic change, on a both subconscious and superconscious levels.

The powerful and instinctive reaction to distrust those claiming power and authority has always been a part of the human endeavor.....techniques of forcing compliance of the population with tyrannical systems of governance, have co evolved with the increasing ability of the subjugated to detect and resist inequity. There is an ongoing psychological arms race, the collective mind is waging against itself, that uses the most unbelievable means to justify the most far out ends.

The use of the label of "Conspiracy Theorist" was ordered by the "mocking bird" Media in America to be used against anybody who question the Coup that went down when the Kennedys were taken out. Then it was expanded to dismiss anyone who didn't believe in the official narratives of anything there after.

What is missing from many of these conversations, is a historic context for the phenomenon of "Conspiracy Theory" as a powerful weapon that has always existed and been used by both the most powerful as well as the most powerless groups of people throughout history. The United states of America was founded by a cabal of Conspiracy Theorist who claimed that a 3% tea tax was a manifestation of great tyranny. Thomas Paine's 'Common Sense" and "Age of reason" were epic Odes against the prevailing Conspiracy of that day, were full of viral memes, and taken to heart by the people of the colonies. These pamphlets were widely read and had a message that was in many ways much more radical and extreme than anything Alex Jones is saying today.

Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« on: June 03, 2018, 01:17:24 pm »

I have been for some time now attempting to form a more mature view of the grand conspiracy, similar to what was espoused by Aldous Huxley's in his interview regarding the "Enemies of Freedom" Huxley takes the viewpoint that instead on focusing on individual perpetrators involved in world domination shemes, one should instead consider the Impersonal forces at work which allow for such tyranny to arise.

You could kill every last illuminati bastard alive today and if the impersonal forces which lead to their original manifestation are not simultaneously dealt with, then the abohrant natural vacuum will in short order fill the void with an entirely new cast of bad actors that will carrion the enterprise of feeding upon the meek, ignorant and vulnerable.   

Ive been attempting to transcend some of the less productive mindsets induced by a lifetime of constantly being deceived and misinformed by the portrayers of authority across all domains of the human endeavor . Early in ones journey there may be some value in cultivating anger and directing it toward the perceived devils, letting the emotions ferret out the scapegoats; Once provoked into taking up a cause, the monkey mind motivates quest for truth, by projecting an oppositional adversarial role upon an universal other.  Though its healthy and natural to get emotionally angry, there is always the danger for such mind states to become pathological and can be just as inwardly oppressive as the perceived outside evils, if not tempered with broader awareness.
I am seeking more nuanced perspectives regarding the absurdities that abound the human world. Awaking to the full scope of the great deception can be very troubling and it is easy to blame and rage against the gatekeepers who appear to be responsible for misleading humanity into ages of needless suffering. Though its often difficult to explain such ideas clearly I have found much solace by integrating eastern leaning worldviews, in which the world is superpersonal. Cultivating the unreality of the world, recognizing ignorance as fundamentally necessary for the existence of truth, the contemporary understanding of the nature of life is built upon fundamental illusions that continue to mutate in the endless dance of metamorphic regeneration...these elements of infinite uncertainty allow for mystery magic to be used in the cultivation of the creative power of the entire cosmos. The freedom and courage to fathom such infinite depths can be a more effective defense against the control freak ethos, than getting involved with the kind of linearly limited ideological warfare which is run amok through the social media zeitgeist. 

With a balanced attitude that is less serious and more sincere, and a mind full of deep introspection, it may be much less troubling when there is calling to enter back into the world of human affairs, and champion a noble cause. Much of figuring out what exactly to do about "IT" boils down to figuring out how to play it cool even when the worlds ablaze; if a butterfly's wings flapping gives rise to hurricanes, then God only knows what the collective power of our human minds unleashed could accomplish. This is a kind of cosmic consciousness mindset that has been used with some success by people throughout the epochs to live fulfilling lives even in the darkest of ages. Even if lost to obscurity, never to be recognized by the Scholarly Whore of History, such people empowered by the spirit of wisdom always have and always will exist in the undercurrents, as a necessary counterbalance to mitigate negative effects of the ever devolving conspiracy.

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: June 03, 2018, 04:54:43 am »
For now Im content to keep using a moderate amount of dissolved bone mineral, and insist that I feel benefits from doing so. My strength and flexibility seem to be much improved in the last few months, and I dont get cramps as much as before even when working long hours in the heat.

I would presume that there are trade offs when considering raw vs cooking in vinegar. I feel that rinsing off the bits of flesh fat and greasy broth removes the majority of cooked toxins from the bone mineral. Some levels may remain but in my case i feel the benefits of the minerals outway the risk of small amounts of cooked protein residue. The taste is pleasantly clean and pure and doesn't cause the aversion that cooked meat and broth evoke.

Perhaps Raw bone meal has similar benefits without any risk, but I am not sure either way? I use to file bones by hand to get small amounts of bone meal, but it was a lot of effort for little return, then I lost my old file and the new one i bought seemed cheaper and metal would flake off of it, making me think that maybe filing isn't the best method, unless you are absolutely sure about the purity of the metal.

Digestibility of vinegar dissolved vs raw is also a matter of debate. Im not sure that raw ground bone meal would be as bioavailable as dissolved bones. I use to chew on the raw bone meal like gum and it would never fully break down....though it is a good method for polishing your teeth...while the dissolved bone seems to melt im my mouth with very little effort, which may indicate that the minerals may be eassier to assimilate....

Perhaps the variables are dependant upon the individuals needs....some people may have more drastic deficiencies than others....... people with mineral deficiencies will often also have enzyme deficiencies making them less able to absorb minerals from raw bones...for such individuals disoved bones may add a necessary boost in enzyme forming bioavailable minerals.(there is definitely a synergy between the apple cider vinegar and the bone mineral which seems to be good for overall digestion, and should be explored more deeply)

Perhaps people who are already fairly well balanced don't need any major supplementation, and having optimal enzymatic functioning would do fine with occasionally consuming small amounts of raw bone meal and whole small bones from small animals.

Perhaps some combination of raw bone meal and dissolved bone mineral could be used in a best of both worlds scenario, which when combined may provide benefits far beyond the majority of the more dubious methods of mineral supplementation currently heralded by modern nutritional science.

In the end analisis its still much a matter for debate whither any such supplementation is "necessary" at all, so long as there are enough prime quality organs, marrow, blood, connective tissue, and what not...But I assume that for many of us it may be difficult to obtain optimal ratios of such mineral dense animal foods, and for many suffering from lifelong mineral deficiency or metal toxicity, supplementation with bone may be beneficial for chelation and regeneration.

Right now I am somewhat limited financially and logistically, so am attempting to extract every bit of nutrition from the one animal I kill every month...being a member of the working class on a tight budget, its difficult for me to afford buying extra marrow and quality organs, even if I could find sources that were trustworthy.......quality blood is near impossible to find at the market level....Im not yet desperate enough to go full cheebacabra, draining blood from livestock in the night..... some day if times get apocalyptic I may have to go full vampire... ;)kidding aside; I've had such a tough time attempting to economically source for extras, that its been much more feasible a solution to source the best quality mutton on hoof and devise ways to maximize nutrition available from each animal.

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: May 28, 2018, 12:08:19 am »
People who consume bone broth typically do not eat the whole bones, and will indeed get some level of mineral nutrition from acidicly induced leaching...but just because some of the minerals leech out into the broth, does not take away from the core mineral values of the actual bone in any significant way. The bone tissue matrix is still full of bioavailable minerals even after the broth is extracted and can these leftover minerals are perfectly bioavailably utilized when eaten.

Another benefit to my method is that by running multiple rinse cycles, much of the AGEs in the cooked proteins as well as the rancid heat deteriorated fats are washed out, leaving a more pure mineral substrate that is much more appealing to my cravin sense.

I have also tried using lemon juice which also works...but doesn't seem to keep as fresh tasting for days on end like the apple cider vinegar. I also prefer the more subtle taste of lightly vinegary soft bones, vinegar seems to be good for dissolving out the cooked marrow and protein residue which is what typically gives bone broths their abhorrent taste.


Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: May 21, 2018, 11:15:16 am »
Very interesting. Do you eat any other animals than sheep? You could get more blood and marrow from larger animals, along with any other parts of the animal (organs, muscle, whatever).
And if you do only eat sheep, any reason why you prefer sheep over other animals?

Also, in regards to bones, how much do you eat?

I typically prefer sheep for a number of reasons.....Most cows in my area are grazed in less than optimal conditions and do not taste good to bovine fats seem to be much more waxy in consistency than sheep fat which is much more creamy and easier to digest in the copious amounts I consume. Even if it was possible to source good quality organs, marrow and blood from animals I do not butcher, it would be difficult to afford paying market price for all those extras in the long term.

I usually eat only a few ounces of bones a day.. a couple of ribs, half a scapula, or a big knuckle joint...the amount varies depending on craving and how much I have to pick from.

You're saying you couldn't get enough minerals from fish?
What about oysters/mussels? Oysters especially are so salty to me, it would be hard to not get enough minerals from them. They are traditionally eaten raw as well..

I experimented with trying to add larger amounts of seafood for minerals, a couple years back after I got a hair test which showed I was low in magnesium calcium and selenium. Some experts claim that hair analisis is not accurate, the efficacy of such testing is a separate topic of debate but from my experience they can give an indication if there are mineral imbalances or deficiencies....though it is still uncertain what levels are optimal for any particular individual.

For a couple of months I ate lots of oysters, fish, crab, scallops...It was very expensive and after some time I didn't get any really positive effect, and actually started noticing weird symptoms like headache, cloudy thinking and muscle twitching...I went back for an other hair test and it showed that my mineral levels were improved, but my mercury level was also way up, where it had been undetectable from before. After that I quit eating most seafood, and the symptoms went away...I haven't gone back for any more testing yet....might give it a couple more months of supplementing with bones just to see where the levels are.

Looking at it from a mineral perspective, oysters tend to be very high (sometimes the highest, depending on the species) in zinc, high in copper and selenium. Potassium, magnesium and sodium tends to be similar between fish, oysters and land animals. Although it could be the salt water you are tasting, in which case you would be getting some additional minerals, albeit not much. Mostly some extra sodium.
With all the organs he eats, he should easily be getting all the selenium, manganese, copper, zinc, phosphorus, iron and calcium. The only ones (and only if he is not consuming a large enough volume of food) which in general would be below recommended daily intake would be magnesium, potassium and sodium. Blood has a pretty high potassium and sodium content, although it is not as high in magnesium. On paper he should be getting everything. It's also very bioavailable.

But there's probably more to it than just paper values of what you should be getting. And looking at it, he should mostly be getting calcium and phosphorus from bones.

We are all in uncharted territory when trying to quantify optimal mineral consumption ratios, Its nearly impossible to scientifically analyze ones day to day needs and prescribe a given protocol. Ive given up all hope in nutritional science to show me the way and been running on instinct for so long that following my cravings have become second nature. When I am in need of lacking nutrients I can feel it...Its not anything like the extreme malnourishment of my vegetarian days....for the most part I am very well nourished and any blood test profile would likely be well within the 'normative', but every now and then there is a feeling that if only I had an extra something or other then everything would be prime. Even alpha wolfs who have access to all the meat they can eat will still knaw on a bone every now and then, which points to there being something in the actual bone tissue they crave from time to time.
I have also noticed a dramatic increase in the flexibility of my joints and tendons since beginning to eat bones. I feel much more loose and limber and am progressing much better when I take my weekly flexibility class.

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: May 21, 2018, 02:07:08 am »
Regarding bones,

I haven't mentioned my latest addition to the diet here mainly because of the anti cooking nature of the forum, and partly because I've only been experimenting with eating dissolved bone for the last 4 months, and wanted to be sure there were not any negative issues before presenting my findings.

One of the main problems I have noticed while going an a long term primarily raw meat based diet, is in obtaining optimal minerals and electrolytes from food sources. I will work long hours in hot conditions and often sweat intensely, leaving me at times depleted to the point of cramps muscle, joint soreness and also seemingly more prolonged recovery times. This is something I have always experienced and was much worse before going paleo, when I had much more drastic symptoms of mineral deficiencies.

Over the years I have tried to get every bit of minerals and electrolytes possible by drinking blood, eating all the tissues and organs and it still sometimes seems like its not quite enough. The sheep I consume only have so much blood and marrow, and it would be difficult for me to obtain any extra to supplement with. I have also experimented with things like magnesium supplements, Clay and D.E in the past without much success. Dairy seems to help with providing minerals but has other negative effects which makes it not useful in the long term. Eating the occasional eggs, fish, greens nuts and vegetation seems to help add a better overall mineral ballance, but still does not seem quite optimal.

Since going paleo I have been more and more curious of the benefits of eating bones especially after witnessing my dogs devour whole raw bones, and seem to thrive. The problem is humans in general do not have bone crushing teeth and jaws. I have tried chewing the soft bone and extract marrow from the ribs, and will chew connective tissue till my jaw hurts. I crave the taste but just could never figure out a way to make it work...there are industrial granders which would work ideal, but I dont have 3,000 or so odd dollars to invest in an I started to devise ways to soften bones in a crock pot.

I would also like to mention that I extremely dislike bone broth, the taste is repulsive and it always sits heavy in my stomach. To get around the taste of cooked meat I first scrap the bones as clean as possible then place them in a crock pot with two cups of apple cider vinegar on low for about 24 hours. Then I strain off all the broth and rinse all the cooked meat from the bones, afterwards I put back the clean bones into the crock pot with spring water and two more cups of vinegar and leave it on warm for about three days.

This way all allows for much of the horrid taste of cooked meat to be discarded leaving a very soft, clean bone which can be eaten easily. I have recently started keeping the temp on low warm and doing a second rinse cycle to get an even cleaner taste and softer consistency. The large joints will turn into a honeycomb of delicious mineral goodness.

I ate a whole lot in the beginning and besides a little constipated at first, there hasn't been any negative issues. While on the positive side I have noticed much less cramping and soreness, shorter recovery time, and more overall strength and endurance. I usually will snack on bones throughout the day now, eating a couple of bites here and there shortly before meals or as a late night snack before bed.


Years ago I would get swollen nodes which seemed to correspond to episodes of liver congestion and viral outbreaks...

Lymph-nodes are blood cleaners, if the liver is congested or not functioning optimally it places burdens on the other systems...too much protein in one sitting without balancing levels of Fat could overload the livers metabolic capacity, especially if the body isn't yet fully adapted. Its feasible that the protein overload aggravated by other factors could trigger lymphatic congestion.

There usually are a number of other factors that contribute to these issues. Chronic toxicity, auto immunity reactions and viral outbreaks may also lead to swollen lymph-nodes.   

I would recommend making sure you get enough optimal quality fats, and organ meats. I personally eat all the organs, glands lymph nodes, spleen, bile, pancreas, thyroid, bloods, marrow, etc..and believe that

Science / Re: Female infertility doubled by consuming junk food
« on: May 04, 2018, 11:46:12 pm »
As in much of what passes for mainstream science, these relativistic ways in which such findings are presented are inherently deceiving. Just because people who eat more fruit are more fertile than those who live on junk food doesn't mean that eating fruit in and of itself increases could simply imply that those who eat more fruit calories tend to take in less fertility inhibiting junk food calories.....also; such fruit eating people are usually much more health conscious about other relevant lifetyle decisions in general.

These faux studies are for usual mistaking correlation with causation....and the ivory towers from which these so called authoritative academic cretins , are too far removed from reality on the ground level of being, to objectively view their subject matter without being jaded by ignorance and bias  . These false clerics will not take into the equation relevant factors such as how the basic fertility rates of well nourished indigenous peoples who follow totally unprocessed meat heavy diets, would be far greater than that of any of their fruit heavy test subjects. Hell most people who study dietary matters in the West have never met an other human who practices ancestral and holistic ways of living.

Having only one extremely poorly defined control group makes such articles an example of the rampant idiocratic bunk science run amok.

I dont believe in evolutionary theory as it is taught from a Darwinist perspective. I agree in part with natural selection and how it routs out traits which are not in viable resonance with the environmental requirements for life....but could never accept the idea that mutation was some sort of random phenomenon...nor could i accept the notion that DNA is some sort of blind mechanistic building block that has no intelligence of its own.

Many of these fundamental disagreements in the meaning of life arise from divergences in perspective and are more a matter philosophical taste rather than empirical truths. Assigning a specific PURPOSE to the complex process of living creation is a prejudicial presupposition, that fails to notice the grand multiplicity of meanings weaved into the infinitely larger than life tapestry of the cosmos.

The creative element of the universal energy as it manifest in biological life, divides itself into a great multiplicity in order to manifest its play of energy through the lives of all living creatures. The various races of humans, as in all differentiation of living organisms, are involved with something much larger than the sum of all its individual bits of genetic code. There is a maze of mystery locked within what science refers to as junk DNA...These mystery codes are composed of alien genetics embedded into us from encounters with various retroviruses. These retro-viral agents which are found in the placentas of all mammals, play critical roles in adaptations which allowed for divergent genetic material from drifting species to combine into viable re-homogenized hybridized offspring. These phenomenon are not part of some random process of blind mutation, but instead are evidence of life being responsible for its own intelligent design...This epi-biological intelligence combined with other phenomenon such as intuitively creative sexual selection has brought human beings to the ape-x of this era.

The interplay between divergent strains of organism shouldn't be viewed in terms of "one vs other". Views that place survival of the fittest as the primal law of the jungle, as well as the concept that extinction means ultimate failure....are misnomers. For even the fallen races leave traces behind from which our own code as well as the entire web of life at large grows forth. The interchange between divergent forces of nature is the catalyst for evolution. The dynamic interplay between separate races has been tantamount to the process of human evolution...there never will be a time when the race is won and DNA of the victors will settle into a state of static non divergence...nor will there be a time when the environment becomes so static as to not require the periodic convergence of hybrid DNA. The balance is a precarious place never set in stone and is only to be found in the fleeting moments when those possessed with the spirit of living are free to reap the whirlwind of their own choosing.

Our DNA does not belong to us, nor is it something that has a definite end game in sight. Its the spirit of creation incarnate....something that lives, grows, evolves, transcends and eventually dies. What we are to do with its power? What it is to do with us? The answers are still as much a part of the mystery of life as it ever was.

There are many undiscovered mystery's and the majority of human history has long been forgotten. For the most part we can only speculate upon explanations as to why groups of early humanoids would be able to inhabit remote islands only to vanish thousands of years before modern homo sapiens staked their on claim to the entire planet.

There would no doubt have been circumstances in hominid evolution where isolated groups would become so utterly inbred that it was a threat to viability and in many of these cases this would lead to total collapse. Perhaps there may have been a combination of factors...such as after many years living in an isolated island paradise without outside predators and many generations of inbreeding, such island populations would lose their survivalist edge, so that they would be easily wiped out from any number of abrupt shifts in the climate...such as in the biblical flood or a volcano induced nuclear winter.....or else the ones who did survive the Apocalypse made their escape back to the mainland to chase after some terrestrial tail and merge back into the mainstream...

Think of human migration and miscegenation as a tidal phenomenon, forever ebbing and flowing like water, reaching out to the furthest frontier only to be pulled back by natural forces until the time is ripe to continue forward. The first waves of intrepid travelers laid the ground work for hominid adaptation to the most extreme climates on this earth, the genetic matrix fractured into many variations... some flowed to the ends of the earth, separating entirely from the connection to original source...while others ebbed back, called back in the direction of origin. These intermediaries merged with the following waves of groups that left the cradle much later.

These interbreeding between subsequent migration waves of constantly mutating strains of humanoids, allowed for the transference of valuable adaptations which took millennia to accrue....from the first wave to the second wave, and from the second wave on down the line...the aggregation and coalescence of traits developed on the edge of the frontier, through incessant migration and interbreeding, finds its way from the very brink of separation back to the core....the infusion of cutting edge frontier DNA further seduces the core to leave cradle phase as it radiates its own eminence into further lands.....of course there was never a linear progression and these evolutionary migratory waves occurred on multiple dimensional levels and scales, but for the sake of explanation certain reduction-isms are permitted.

These waves of forward flowing migration patterns, followed by the ebbing of progress, leads to countless reversals of course, bringing the once separate strains of human beings into a concrescence of miscegenation. This allows for a piggybacking effect by which the following waves that left the cradled much later, when interbred with the forerunners already epi-gene-mutated to thrive in the frontier territory, are more quick to adapt and find balance, as each next newfangled wave pushes the evolutionary envelope further than the last.

This ebb and flow of the evolutionary migration patterns of human kind, is reflected through all the evolutionary patterns and movements of life on this planet. The origin of the "first" wave is so far back into the dark infinite abyss of time, that one could only imagine....The origin of animal life could be traced back to first acts self determination in the early seething slime mold and flagella wielding bacteria able to move with purpose in the direction of destiny..... Likely on some fractal level, these evolutionary patterns responsible for the creation and development of life are related to the flow of the light, energy, and spirit that created the entire cosmos.

Its very possible that there were intrepid groups of highly intelligent fish hunting early humanoids who were able to build primitive rafts and found their way to the islands thousands of years before our direct ancestors. Neanderthals of the river valleys could have easily tied together logs to cross waterways, and perhaps eventually even leap frog from island to island sending out scouts to find virgin lands much in the same way the Australian aborigines did in the southern hemisphere. None of their wooden craft would have been preserved over the ages, so there wouldn't be any direct evidence, but the fact that they made it to such remote islands does give one circumstantial evidence that they used some sort of water craft

Its also very likely that Neanderthals may have reached all the way into the new world of the Americas, only to die off during flood events and ice ages like the one that wiped out all the mega fauna. 

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Vice article featuring Me
« on: April 26, 2018, 11:19:52 am »
Dear Derek,

##### here from Newstalk National Radio in Ireland.

We are very keen to speak with you about your raw meat diet.

Would you be available to do a telephone interview please?

Our show, The Moncrieff Show, is one of Ireland's most popular afternoon programmes.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,

Here is a new interview prospect

General Discussion / Re: Do glands regenerate after abuse?
« on: April 24, 2018, 03:46:09 am »
Five years of hormonal abuse can definitely cause major long term damage and I agree with Tyler, that it may take a couple of years maybe longer before the glands can regenerate after undergoing such prolonged abuse...Artificial hormone replacement should only be considered as a last resort for people already to far gone for natural rejuvenation protocol. For someone in their twenties I would recommend opting for a long term natural healing protocol, which includes large portion raw animal foods that include a good balance of Fats, glands and organ meat...along with an overall holistic lifestyle approach.

I am also a huge supporter of light therapy, and recommend a combination of regular nude sunbathing and Red light therapy to help maximize natural rejuvenation.

I would recommend at least a two year commitment to naturally addressing the issue before seeking out any other medical options, and if the glands are still capable of rejuvenation you should slowly begin to notice some improvements over the next few months.

Off Topic / Re: Article recommending avoiding washing once a day
« on: April 24, 2018, 03:19:31 am »
I was a little perplexed in the fact that he seemed to stay well hydrated even without drinking any water. He follows the AV protocol of milk and fresh juices, and during his stay drank about a gallon and a half of milk, from a local farm and a good quantity of fresh juices made from a mixture of fresh citrus and vegetables. So overall it would seem he does get enough fluid through milk and juice....though I still claim that not everyone is as dairy or fructose tolerant as to be able to follow such a protocol long term.

My girlfriend gave him an ashiatsu deep tissue massage and noticed his bones and joints didn't pop or crack like most people, which is typically a good indication of being well hydrated.   

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