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General Discussion / Re: Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« Last post by surfsteve on October 17, 2018, 04:38:47 am »
I went with my gut instinct and sense of smell and consumed a large amount of reconstituted wheatgrass juice powder this morning. Your advise to use fresh doesn't make sense to me since I am consuming the powder though I agree fresh would probably be better to consume. Fresh grown wheatgrass grown outside with deep roots for 180 days or more is nearly impossible to come by and is nothing like tray grown for 10 to 14 days . I actually believe that the powder is better than freshly grown tray wheatgrass. My sense of smell and instinct tells me that too!

In thinking about Jordan Peterson's diet, though I'm not following it exactly Wasn't he also going with his instincts like I am and throwing out all of the experts advise and blood tests? I think I'm also going to continue consuming lemons. I've always liked them, even as a child. Only difference I'm going to cut down and only consume them when I'm really craving them instead of consuming as many as I can because of the belief that they are so good for me.

Since I'm doing so well, so far, without spices. I'm only going to use salt. At least for a while and see how it goes.

Also the cold I got flash symptoms indicating I may be coming down with has not given me any symptoms and never (so far) has manifested it's self. I'm thinking I probably dodged a cold. I can't think of a time that's ever happened before without taking monolaurin. I don't want to get my hopes up too much but it would be great if I could get back to where I was in April and maybe even push a little beyond.
Primal Diet / Re: A1 versus A2 dairy, any difference?
« Last post by Gatsuri on October 17, 2018, 04:17:36 am »
Hmmm well raw (animal) foods digest better due to the enzymes not being destroyed so I don't see why it would not apply to milk ?

I might have found a goat farm 30 mins ride, if I decide to try the raw goat milk I will update how it went

Checked some forums whereby mothers had success giving their kids A2 goat milk for example for fixing the constipation in their toddlers (when they were on cow milk) so there are for sure success stories
Primal Diet / Re: A1 versus A2 dairy, any difference?
« Last post by van on October 17, 2018, 03:46:06 am »
not correct regarding the lactase digesting it for you.  Sufficient amounts of lactase are produced in the large intestine by lactose feeding bacteria there creating lactase, which is then shuttled to the liver to then aid in digestion in the stomach and small intestine.  I wouldn't swear to this, but have read it from some what of an authority, and not AV. 
  Also if disciplined, one can build up those lactose digesting bacteria over time.  Supposedly we all have some small amount that can be induced to multiply.  But this to me is questionable due to the use of antibiotics.  However, one can repopulate the large intestine with HUMAN strains of probiotics and then grow their populations over time by regular small and increasing amounts of 'milk food'. 
   Culturing HUMAN stains of probiotics outside the body grown on whey and then rectally implanting a pint of the solution will provide the greatest chance of creating a living growing strain in the large bowel.   This I did several times when I had my own goats and lived primarily on their milk.
General Discussion / Re: Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« Last post by van on October 17, 2018, 03:37:02 am »
you might consider, if you go with your sense of smell to determine whether or not your wheat grass powder is what your body needs, then suggest smelling fresh raw wheat grass, or fresh wheat grass juice.  And in the case of fresh juice, don't forget to use your sense of taste too.
General Discussion / Re: Is variety important?
« Last post by Drengr on October 17, 2018, 03:29:04 am »
I live in high desert so pretty much all food is imported.
Welcoming Committee / Re: Finally starting to see the light...
« Last post by Dingeman on October 17, 2018, 01:07:29 am »
Welcome! Hope you will find the answers that you need to achieve true health on here!

What guy was your sister talking about? was it Sv3rige?

A tip I have for insomnia is definitely to eat mineral rich foods. Try to source a thymus gland (it's a delicacy where I live, so it should be doable for you) it contains lots of minerals and hormones that will help you get into your circadian rhythm.
Another tip I have is to eat organs as often as you can. Raw muscle meat is good and a whole different world than plant foods, but organs are truly magical. They will heal you in ways you didn't even know were necessary.
Welcoming Committee / Finally starting to see the light...
« Last post by Venabulis Vinco on October 17, 2018, 12:58:47 am »
Hey Everyone,

I think I best give a summary of my health and dietary history. I have had digestive issues since I was a child, which came along with depression and bouts of anger and I have never had the greatest of memories. I didn't have the worst of diets, just your standard 'healthy' English diet, so plenty of jacket potato's, baked beans, eggs, fish and of course roast dinners. I managed to get through childhood, but was always considered to be lazy or laid back.
When I came into my teens, I started eating allot more junk food thanks to school and ended up being 200 lbs at 15 years old despite being very active, playing sports and going cycling (I suspect that it was more severe water retention than actual fat deposits). In my late teen I was sick of being overweight so I decided to clean up my diet and ate a very clean diet, no junk food (well i guess I would call protein bars and protein powder junk food now) I managed to lose 30 lbs in 3 months without calorie restriction and doing 20 minutes of strength or burst training a day. At this point I realised that no matter how much I worked out I could never really gain any muscle, I was strong but I had always been relatively strong.

I can remember having sleeping problems on and off through my life (used to sleep 21 hours a day when I was a baby, which in no way is normal), but it was when I started university at 18 that it got really bad with severe insomnia. Due to the stress and lack of sleep I started using allot of stimulants to just keep going, I was drinking 2 liters of black coffee and allot of nicotine gum (about the same as a 20 a day smoker), I would quit in the summers but the insomnia persisted and I went back to my 'Lazy' self. While at university I experimented with a higher fat  whole food diet and intermittent fasting, but I still had digestive issues no matter what i did (the fasting just gave me a small break from the discomfort). But I managed to drag my self through university and completed my masters (at what cost to my organs and glands, I still have no idea).

Once I finished university I got caught up in veganism and its supposed health benefits, I did start feeling better in a way, but I also quit all stimulants at the same time and I no longer had any stress. So i did a WFPB diet for about a year and a half and felt okay, but my insomnia was never fixed and I had to consume a ridiculous amount of food. I also lost weight eating unrestricted calories, whether it was higher fat or higher carb (i experimented with both).

It was when I started a stressful job when things started going down hill and my digestive issues became worse than ever, IBS and sleep was absolutely awful. I started withdrawing mentally and after a year at the job I completely broke down mentally and physically. I could barely speak and every time I started I would get sharp headaches, my depression was at its worst ever and I was having suicidal thoughts through out the day and on top of this my insomnia was still there. after half a year of misery with colonoscopies, CT scans and nutritionists unable to determine what the problem was, it was pretty much determined that I had chronic fatigue (my mom had chronic fatigue at around the same age). I decided to try and find the foods (still vegan mentality unfortunately) which I can actually digest without much discomfort and I basically ended up being fruit based (which is the dumbest idea in the UK in my opinion).

So I was basically eating a load of supermarket fruit with some raw nuts and seeds and some light salads, I also added 4-5 tablespoons of coconut oil a day but it never seemed to help with my digestion, I still had constipation and haemorrhoids. But I still felt better staying away from cooked food but I continued to lose weight. I eventually got desperate and went down the dr morse herbs and fruit, hoping that they would somehow support my weak organs and glands, but my blood pressure was still 90/60 many days (I still couldn't gain weight no matter how many medjool dates, bananas and avocado's I ate). I eventually gave up because I was scaring my wife and mother being 124 lbs at 6ft 2, so I started to add some raw eggs which helped a bit, but not much and I was still not gaining weight. I then decided to give the snake diet a go so I ate fish and sweet potatoes, but what went in just came out the other end and I felt heavy after any cooked food.

But I recalled a time when my sister made a passing comment 'theres even a guy who solved his health problems eating a diet of raw meat' so I looked into it and decided to dive in. I got some organic raw beef and sat down to eat it, no gagging , no hesitation, just pure bliss... it tasted like butter. From that point 2 and a half months ago I have been hooked on raw meat, I tried a week with raw milk but it made my insomnia really bad, and I stupidly experimented with some water kefir which made me feel awful and I haven't quite recovered from that after 2 weeks. I am still not digesting well (It was getting much better before the water kefir so I suspect I am battling with candida now) I was zero carb, but have since started adding some seaweed for electrolytes.

Overall though since starting raw primal I have gained back at least 15lbs of muscle and some healthy fat stores as I am up to 156 lbs. I have been eating around 1kg of grass-fed beef a day, mostly coming from dry aged brisket, and about 6 eggs. I have had a few weeks where I got some organic organs and mince and added raw butter to make up for the lower fat content. The brisket is definitely my favourite though. I am starting to add in some more seafood (wild caught), as I am unable to source any brains, and I was thinking that due to my mental breakdown my brain may need a bit more nourishment in the for of DHA. 

I do still have the insomnia, but being in ketosis has helped me cope much better. I still have digestive issues and fatigue, but they aren't as bad. But my depression is completely lifted and I will hopefully be going back to part time work within the next month or so (my old boss is very happy for me to work the hours that my body allows me too).

Well that turned out to be a much longer summary than I intended, I hope it isn't too detailed.

Any help on tips for insomnia would be greatly appreciated, as I know I will never heal until I am able to sleep. I suspect that it may be partially caused by EMF's as my insomnia got worse when 4G networks came out and since I started working on and around computers more (my university building was basically one hyper computer). Also, the only restful sleep I remember having in 8 years was when I was camping in the rockies last year, I was actually able to sleep in the middle of the day with loads of people around. It may have been a coincidence but I plan on researching it a bit more.
General Discussion / Re: Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« Last post by surfsteve on October 17, 2018, 12:16:26 am »
I've been supplement free for a week or so but I've got HCL and monolaurin standing by. By comparison I'm probably a lot more carnivore than you when I eat only meat with a few lemons and a couple tablespoons of wheatgrass juice powder.

Yesterday I was intending on trying a full carnivore day but for some reason I cooked a rare hamburger and at the last second put some ketchup on it which is a huge step backwards for me. This morning my back hurts and I wish I had just done my raw organ meat smoothies like I intended last night. I've also felt like I am about to come down with a cold for the past few days. Normally I take monolaurin and HCL at the first sign of a cold but the symptoms are a little different this time and have only lasted from a few seconds to under an hour. Even my backache.

Yesterday morning instead of taking the monolaurin I told myself that I would keep it close by and even intended on mixing up some HCL in a water bottle to take with me to the gym in case my cold symptoms came back. I also intended on hardly working out and “coasting” but when I got to the gym I felt the urge to go full animal on the weights and started pedaling aggressively in my cycling class till around half way through when I hit a wall. I took it easy for about 15 minutes and the symptoms subsided and pedaled moderately through the rest of the class “exercising” caution.

I am thinking that my diet is vastly superior to Jordan Peterson's diet because it is 50% raw organ meats and 50% raw or hardly cooked muscle meats.  It's been less than a week on that diet and I can already see a huge increase in muscle size and definition. I know if I continue that everyone in the gym is going to accuse me of taking steroids, 'cause the same thing happened before on this diet, but the joke is on them!  When I did it before, I added lots of spices, wheatgrass juice powder and lemons to the meat, making me nearly 99% carnivore but I can't help wondering what would happen if I cut them out and went 100%. My gut instinct tells me to cut out the spices and lemons and just go with meat and wheatgrass juice powder so I'm torn between experimenting with that or going 100% carnivore.

I'm surprised my cold symptoms have been held at bay and that I haven't had to take any HCL and monolaurin for them but with this back ache I realize that I am right on the verge and the symptoms could manifest and overwhelm me at any second. Perhaps I should try 100% carnivore till the symptoms “make up their mind” and if I am successful in beating the cold try adding the wheatgrass juice powder into the mix in a few days. I am really torn between trying that and going straight to the wheatgrass. I think if I had done the wheatgreas yesterday that I wouldn't have had the urge to use ketchup on my evening meal. Funny. I can still taste that ketchup as if I had just eaten it a minute ago. Must be all in my mind. I just went over to the kitchen and took a whiff of wheatgrass and when I smelled it my instinct told me “I need this” so I should probably go with that...
Primal Diet / Re: A1 versus A2 dairy, any difference?
« Last post by Gatsuri on October 16, 2018, 06:49:05 pm »
Yeah, still interested in reading about the A1/A2 though, 'devil in the milk' seems to be a book that discusses it which I might check out

I don't think 'lactose intolerance' can be used as an argument though for raw milk, from what I understand the enzyme lactase should digest it for you in raw milk.
Hot Topics / Re: Fruitarian testimony
« Last post by van on October 16, 2018, 09:39:19 am »
I don't know the biology there. Just that the typical ratio many suggest is upside down with milk.   Maybe with cows it doesn't matter, because after some weeks the calf is ingesting spring grasses high in mg.
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