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Hot Topics / Re: Vegan/soy diet does cause androgeny:
« on: August 01, 2010, 08:17:56 am »
Women should be naturally sweet and feminine, I see that the tough exterior put on by some women isn't masculine, its just suffering from toxic estrogen overload.

The men who get excess estrogen do undergo some type of wussification
 
I wonder how prevalent is the problem ?

It seems that with the universal decline in sperm count, that its a common occurrence in the developed world


I myself suffered from low testosterone, though now on this diet my malehood has be surging.
Thicker body hair , more authoritative towards the woman.


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Hot Topics / Re: Vegan/soy diet does cause androgeny:
« on: August 01, 2010, 03:50:37 am »
     The heart of the subject is, Do these plant hormones ingested by humans cause males to be effeminate and females to be masculine, Do this plant hormones cause other issues as well, and is the androgyny is Just a symptom of a greater issue. (The truth is out there}

Don't get hung up on the behavioral manifestations and focus on the chemistry

Some Plant hormones are chemical weapons that were designed by nature to cull the herbivores that preyed on them.

Soy is the main offender of our time, but throughout history people have ingested what every didn't kill them, even if it maimed there hormone systems(so its a problem much bigger than the soy vegan cult}

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Hot Topics / Re: Vegan/soy diet does cause androgeny:
« on: July 31, 2010, 09:11:16 pm »
Is it possible that in ancient times there were instances where estrogen rich plants could be responsible for the androgyny of the people.

The Greeks were eatting all types of vegtables and herbs at the dawn of their enlightenment so who is to say that their homosexual behavior wasn't a result of something the mothers were consuming in that time and place.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: High-meat effects?
« on: July 31, 2010, 04:27:42 pm »
I have had positive mental elevations after eatting high meat

Increased concentration,energy, motivation

Since I was a teenager I had been diagnosed with a serotonin imbalance ,I was given poison(Zoloft, paxil) to mask the symptoms, but after a week or so I got so sick from it I would throw it out.

I BELIEVE IT WAS MY (BODY MIND SPIRIT ACCRSS) TELLING ME THAT THE PROCESSED FOOD I WAS EATTING, ALONG WITH OTHER CONTAMINATES , and Deficiency's WAS HARMING MY WELLBEING.

Why else would a 14 year old have migraines, depression, confusion

The main symptoms seemed to come and go over the years, never did I feel totally well
I eventually became stricken with chronic fatigue syndrome, with severe glandular burnout.

I am only six months into this diet, and only been using high meat for 4 months, and MY GOD do I feel good after eating a meal of meat and fat with a table spoon of high lamb. I get a surge in energy and mental focus; my body feels unbound, my spirit feels free. Sensation and preceptions become more acute
The world seems radiant with positive energy.

If I eat a large dose I become manic with energy(not unpleasant)
                   Almost a religious experience

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Hot Topics / Re: GMO pigs and Salmon
« on: July 31, 2010, 07:39:45 am »
http://www.prisonplanet.com/food-the-ultimate-secret-exposed.html

I think this is in the same thread, it has many revelation about food safety

Alex mentions that once the gmo salmon is released it will only take 40 generations before the wild Salmon are extinct

These Gmo salmon are so monstrous that they will dominate there wild counterpart
The FDA knows this but are going to allow it anyway.

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Hot Topics / Re: Vegan/soy diet does cause androgeny:
« on: July 29, 2010, 07:44:32 pm »
I have known boys that have been fed soy formula because of intolerance to dairy formula, and I am convinced they are being damaged somehow.

The children I have seen fed soy formula , seem to have bad looking skin(pale, pasty), and by the time they are five or so, you can tell that they look stunted and have lower vitality.

Once an infant is found to be intolerant of dairy the poor thing is started on soy,(insanity)
These kids never have a chance.

They used to be given goats milk formula which is actualy not too bad.


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Hot Topics / Re: Vegan/soy diet does cause androgeny:
« on: July 29, 2010, 07:06:09 am »
Has anyone heard of the new soy study which proves that GMO soy sterilizes mammals after three generations of eatting the crap?

I Heard that most farm animals cant be fed more than 30% soy without having severe health and fertility problems

Some school lunch programs use up to 30% soy in the food

most of the soy grown now is Gmo

We are only in the first Human generation of this experiment with Gmo soy

Even traditional soy eatting cultures only ate about 5% fermented soy

I think the issue goes beyond androgyny, Soy disrupts the bodies hormonal systems to such an extent that I liken it to dietary castration.

Mans men and Vixens are becoming a dying breed

Where have all the cowboys gone, now that the heart land is full of estrogen rich, round-up ready fields of soy?

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Hot Topics / Re: The Sweetest Poison of All - Sugar Blues summary
« on: July 29, 2010, 05:36:29 am »
like other mind poisons, sugar can be very addictive

The sugar cartels are a bigger plague to humanity than the drug cartels

They lace our children's food with the stuff
get them hooked and reap huge profits
A soda pop that cost 10 cents to make can be sold to an addict for 2 dollars.

Its used as a main ingredient for breakfast cereal.{considered healthy)
 
I remember eatting fruity pebbles, sugar smacks,etc. as a child,( before school), and after about an hour or two I felt bad( lethargic mental fog).

At the time I was too young to understand why, and my mother was neglectfully unaware.
{how many have been poisoned}
{how many potently great minds have been lost lost to sugar induced idiocy}we will never Know

The mind of the Young child who is dosed with too much sugar is prone to all types of insidious afflictions that often go overlooked or misdiagnosed.

$I believe it lowers intelligence and physical vitality, in doses commonly consumed by the average child

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: The Ideal VLC Paleo Fruit?
« on: July 28, 2010, 08:11:52 pm »
coconut butter
 lemon water
   animals        
(primary sustenance)

If I eat berries , it seems to have an adverse effect on energy levels and overall well being

If I eat vegtables , it seems to interferer with meat digestion.

I can handle some watermelon on a really hot and sweaty day.
(on an empty stomach)

tomato's are neutral for me, so I rarely bother with them(hard to get good quality )

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The point I am trying to make is that the decline in human life span of the western world was engineered by our fellow humans, Although they are no longer using the blatantly barbaric processes to create the modern day vaccines , the same eugenicist family's still largely control the development and administration of many harmfull substances proven to cull and geld us while we are young, so that we never reach our true potential.        
{Am I the only one who sees it or am I a crackpot}

Life span in itself isn't as important as life quality,
Life span is not always an indication of good health either, for example

My grandfather was a horrific creature who drinks like a fish and smokes like a freight train, still at the age of 75. But if it wasn't for modern medicine he would of died of venereal disease along with my poor grand mother, years ago. { Before anti biotics many people carried some type of VD and when they hit the elderly years their immune system would fail and it would ravage them to an early death}

Also I would have died in child birth without medical intervention: killing my mother in the possess,
She was 95 pounds when she got pregnant and birthed a 9 pound baby{me}, I was stuck in the birth canal and would of killed us both if not for an emergency c-section.

What I am really trying to convey is that the decline in life span has been artificially offset by the advances in life saving medicine , so much so, that life expectancy is no longer a sign of health or even good nutrition

I do believe the recent decline in average life expectancy is a sign that we may have reached a point were modern medicine can no longer hide the decline of the truly sorry state{ mind body and spirit} of the those that reside within its womb.

This is why I have to advocate against many aspects of modern medicine, even though I wouldn't be alive right now without it. { darn this doubleedged sward of duality}

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CHAPTER 2: THE SPANISH INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC OF 1918 WAS CAUSED BY VACCINATIONS

As has been stated before, all medical and non-medical authorities on vaccination agree that vaccines are designed to cause a mild case of the diseases they are supposed to prevent. But they also know and admit that there is no way whatsoever to predict whether the case will be mild or severe - even deadly. With this much uncertainty in dealing with the very lives of people, it is very unscientific and extremely dangerous to use such a questionable procedure as vaccination.

Many vaccines also cause other diseases besides the one for which they are given. For instance, smallpox vaccine often causes syphilis, paralysis, leprosy, and cancer. (See the chapters on smallpox and plagues.) Polio shots, diphtheria toxin-antitoxin, typhoid vaccine, as well as measles, tetanus and all other shots often cause various other stages of disease such as post-vaccinal encephalitis (inflammation of the brain,) paralysis, spinal meningitis, blindness, cancer (sometimes within two years,) tuberculosis, (two to twenty years after the shot,) arthritis, kidney disease, heart disease (heart failure sometimes within minutes after the shot and sometimes several hours later.) Nerve damage and many other serious conditions also follow the injections.

When several shots are given (different vaccines) within a few days or a few weeks apart, they often trigger intensified cases of all the diseases at once, because the body cannot handle such a large amount of deadly poison being injected directly into the bloodstream. The doctors call it a new disease and proceed to suppress the symptoms.

When poison is taken by the mouth, the internal defense system has a chance to quickly eject some of it by vomiting, but when the poisons are shot directly into the body, bypassing all the natural safeguards, these dangerous poisons circulate immediately throughout the entire body in a matter of seconds and keep on circulating until all the cells are poisoned.

I heard that seven men dropped dead in a doctor’s office after being vaccinated. This was in an army camp, so I wrote to the Government for verification. They sent me the report of U.S. Secretary of War, Henry L. Stimson. The report not only verified the report of the seven who dropped dead from the vaccines, but it stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of hepatitis as a direct result of the yellow fever vaccine during only 6 months of the war. That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given the soldiers. We can imagine the damage that all these shots did to the men. (See the chapter on What Vaccinations Did to Our Soldiers.)

The first World War was of a short duration, so the vaccine makers were unable to use up all their vaccines. As they were (and still are) in business for profit, they decided to sell it to the rest of the population. So they drummed up the largest vaccination campaign in U.S. history. There were no epidemics to justify it so they used other tricks. Their propaganda claimed the soldiers were coming home from foreign countries with all kinds of diseases and that everyone must have all the shots on the market.

The people believed them because, first of all, they wanted to believe their doctors, and second, the returning soldiers certainly had been sick. They didn’t know it was from doctor-made vaccine diseases, as the army doctors don’t tell them things like that. Many of the returned soldiers were disabled for life by these drug-induced diseases. Many were insane from postvaccinal encephalitis, but the doctors called it shell shock, even though many had never left American soil.

The conglomerate disease brought on by the many poison vaccines baffled the doctors, as they never had a vaccination spree before which used so many different vaccines. The new disease they had created had symptoms of all the diseases they had injected into the man. There was the high fever, extreme weakness, abdominal rash and intestinal disturbance characteristic of typhoid. The diphtheria vaccine caused lung congestion, chills and fever, swollen, sore throat clogged with the false membrane, and the choking suffocation because of difficulty in breathing followed by gasping and death, after which the body turned black from stagnant blood that had been deprived of oxygen in the suffocation stages. In early days they called it Black Death. The other vaccines cause their own reactions — paralysis, brain damage, lockjaw, etc.

When doctors had tried to suppress the symptoms of the typhoid with a stronger vaccine, it caused a worse form of typhoid which they named paratyphoid. But when they concocted a stronger and more dangerous vaccine to suppress that one, they created an even worse disease which they didn’t have a name for. What should they call it? They didn’t want to tell the people what it really was — their own Frankenstein monster which they had created with their vaccines and suppressive medicines. They wanted to direct the blame away from themselves, so they called it Spanish Influenza. It was certainly not of Spanish origin, and the Spanish people resented the implication that the world-wide scourge of that day should be blamed on them. But the name stuck and American medical doctors and vaccine makers were not suspected of the crime of this widespread devastation — the 1918 Flu Epidemic. It is only in recent years that researchers have been digging up the facts and laying the blame where it belongs.

Some of the soldiers may have been in Spain before coming home, but their diseases originated in their own home-based U.S. Army Camps. Our medical men still use that same dodge. When their own vaccines (required for travel) cause vaccine diseases abroad they use this as grounds for a scare campaign to stampede people into the vaccination centers. Do you remember the Hong Kong Flu and the Asian Flu and the London Flu scares? These were all medically-made epidemics mixed with the usual common colds which people have every year.

Now (1976) we are being worked on again by the vaccine -epidemic makers in their effort to force another multi million dollar vaccine sale caper. Their con men have already talked President Ford into handing over $135 million dollars to start their vaccine racket. Even the insurance companies refused to become involved with such an obviously dangerous and crooked scheme. So, again the medical and drug con men induced the appropriate government officials to guarantee insurance against the, possible billions of dollars in law suits which could be brought against the vaccine promoters if the vaccine campaign is carried out as planned. It’s a good thing Ford was voted out of office. It’s too bad he wasn’t "dumped" before he paid the poison squad the MONEY’ to poison the whole population. However, we don’t yet know if President Carter will be any better. Will he be held in the grip of the medical and drug dictatorship? Or will he investigate — learn the truth — reverse the decisions and make the vaccine makers return the money taken from the taxpayers under false pretenses?

The statement of the swine flu vaccine promoters to the effect that the vaccine is harmless, is false, and the statement that it will protect against flu is false. Fifty-six people died after the shots, some within 48 hours. There is confusion and disagreement among the doctors about all aspects of the vaccine, from the safety and effectiveness to the necessity for it, who should have it and who should be warned against it.

Their scare-head campaign cry is that the swine flu is like the 1918 flu which killed 20,000,000 people. They don’t have any usable and provable blood samples from the 1918 flu epidemic to prove it. That was 58 years ago, and the doctors were just as confused and inefficient then as now. However, one thing is certain — the 1918 Spanish Influenza was a vaccine-induced disease caused by extreme body poisoning from the conglomeration of many different vaccines. The soldiers at Fort Dix who were said to have had Swine Flu had been injected with a large variety of vaccines like the vaccines which caused the 1918 flu epidemic. The flu epidemic at Fort Dix was in no way related to swine. There were no swine at camp (unless we want to sarcastically call the vaccine promoters who caused the diseases -"swine.")

To add to the confusion, the doctors tell the people that there are a lot of various kinds of flu; the one which the soldiers at Fort Dix had was AVictoria flu, there are other strains of flu virus, and also, that the swine flu vaccine which so many people have taken already will not protect them against the many other types of flu. This will be used as an "out" in case of law suits later on when more casualties begin to show up. The doctors will say that the vaccine failed because it was the wrong kind of flu for the vaccine. Of course, no one can prove it one way or the other because viruses are illusive, invisible organisms which are unstable and unpredictable. One dictionary definition of virus is "a morbid poison." The vaccines injected into the body are poison and cause the typical poison reactions. Virus (poison) does not fly around and attack people.

Therefore, there will be no swine flu epidemic unless the vaccine promoters make one like they did in the 1918 flu epidemic. It will not kill 20,000,000 people unless the people submit to the disease-producing shots. There are also, other causes of disease besides vaccines, such as bad food, which has been devitalized and contaminated with poison preservatives and artificial drug concoctions. There are many more causes of disease but no diseases are contagious(See the chapter on the germ theory).

Vaccine drives come and go as often as the vaccine promoters can cook up the slightest pretense of a reason.n Back in1957 they were trying to stir up a vaccination campaign for what they decided to call Asiatic flu. An editorial in the Herald and Express for August 29, 1957 was captioned, "Fear of Flu Propaganda." Part of the piece is as follows:

"What a tempest in a teapot has been blown up over the probability that this country will experience an epidemic of the Asiatic flu in the fall and winter months ahead.

"Even the United States Department of Health is stooge for the panic — and has issued statements which are frightening the public, rather than reassuring them by pointing out that this epidemic, while widespread, gives no indication of being any more dangerous than our usual flood of influenza-like colds when winter comes on.

"Those who read between the lines even wonder whether the whole thing might not be a bit of super salesmanship on the part of those who are making and selling the vaccines which are being prepared.. . ."

 I WAS AN ON-THE-SPOT OBSERVER OF THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

All the doctors and people who were living at the time of the 1918 Spanish Influenza epidemic say it was the most terrible disease the world has ever had. Strong men, hale and hearty, one day would be dead the next. The disease had the characteristics of the black death added to typhoid, diphtheria, pneumonia, smallpox, paralysis and all the diseases the people had been vaccinated with immediately following World War 1. Practically the entire population had been injected "seeded" with a dozen or more diseases — or toxic serums. When all those doctor-made diseases started breaking out all at once it was tragic.

That pandemic dragged on for two years, kept alive with the addition of more poison drugs administered by the doctors who tried to suppress the symptoms. As far as I could find out, the flu hit only the vaccinated. Those who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all the vaccinations so we remained well all the time. We knew from the health teachings of Graham, Trail, Tilden and others, that people cannot contaminate the body with poisons without causing disease.

When the flu was at its peak, all the stores were closed as well as the schools, businesses — even the hospital, as the doctors and nurses had been vaccinated too and were down with the flu. No one was on the streets. It was like a ghost town. We seemed to be the only family which didn’t get the flu; so my parents went from house to house doing what they could to look after the sick, as it was impossible to get a doctor then. If it were possible for germs, bacteria, virus, or bacilli to cause disease, they had plenty of opportunity to attack my parents when they were spending many hours a day in the sick rooms. But they didn’t get the flu and they didn’t bring any germs home to attack us children and cause anything. None of our family had the flu — not even a sniffle— and it was in the winter with deep snow on the ground.

When I see people cringe when someone near them sneezes or coughs, I wonder how long it will take them to find out that they can’t catch it — whatever it is. The only way they can get a disease is to develop it themselves by wrong eating, drinking, smoking or doing some other things which cause internal poisoning and lowered vitality. All diseases are preventable and most of them are cureable with the right methods, not known to medical doctors, and not all drugless doctors know them either.

It has been said that the 1918 flu epidemic killed 20,000,000 people throughout the world. But, actually, the doctors killed them with their crude and deadly treatments and drugs. This is a harsh accusation but it is nevertheless true, judging by the success of the drugless doctors in comparison with that of the medical doctors.

While the medical men and medical hospitals were losing 33% of their flu cases, the non-medical hospitals such as BATTLE CREEK, KELLOGG and MACFADDEN’S HEALTH-RESTORIUM were getting almost 100% healings with their water cure, baths, enemas, etc., fasting and certain other simple healing methods, followed by carefully worked out diets of natural foods. One health doctor didn’t lose a patient in eight years. The very successful health treatment of one of those drugless doctors who didn’t lose any patients will be given in the other part of this book, titled VACCINATION CONDEMNED, to be published a little later.

If the medical doctors had been as advanced as the drugless doctors, there would not have been those 20 million deaths from the medical flu treatment.

There was seven times more disease among the vaccinated soldiers than among the unvaccinated civilians, and the diseases were those they had been vaccinated against. One soldier who had returned from overseas in 1912 told me that the army hospitals were filled with cases of infantile paralysis and he wondered why grown men should have an infant disease. Now, we know that paralysis is a common after-effect of vaccine poisoning. Those at home didn’t get the paralysis until after the world-wide vaccination campaign in 1918.

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The Spanish flu exploded shortly after the great typhoid vaccination campaign, and most of those who died had been recently vaccinated or exposed to someone who was, dig deep and discover the truth

The decline in life span as well as the overall loss of health and vitality of the average person in America may be Just the beginning of the consequences of generations of decadence, and chemical pollution.
The Spanish flu exploded right after a great vaccination campain against typhoid, most who died were either vaccinated or exposed to people who were, study up uncover the truth.

Remember that epigenics plays a significant role in health so that; My mother was fed DDT laced food without any drastic effect on herself,  but her children all have problems that are a result of generational genetic damage, and disruption.

Plus with the new wave of gmo poisoned crops{ Just now unleashed upon the world}, which have been proven to sterilize the third generation of mammals forced to eat it: you can draw some conclusions about the future trends of the great decline in health and vitality of most who are born in modern Babylon

paleo is the only way to go to avoid the onslaught of industrial poison and ignorance; which is truly damaging to us all.

Live long and prosper

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hi
« on: July 19, 2010, 08:15:45 pm »
My great grand parrents survived off of small game during the great depression, they would give my uncle worms earth worms to play with and he would eat them up{ he is still alive and well as an old man}

My great grandpa ate squirrel brains with egg for breakfast, snaked on homemade  deer jerky all day
[he lived to 94]

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

I have also scavenged road kill

my friend hit a deer with his truck[score]
I have also picked up a fresh squirrel and a goose,very tasty raw. so far no worms.

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General Discussion / Re: Coconut oil
« on: July 19, 2010, 04:04:41 am »
Artisana raw organic coconut butter

www.premierorganics.org

You can get it on line or whole foods, I think its worth trying

It works real well with my low carb approach

I eat a couple of table spoons with every meal and besides a little lemon water, it the only non animal food I have been eating for the last 4 months, and have had real results as far as health vitality and wellbeing.

I feed it to my kids, even my 6 month old likes it, I believe adding extra quality fat is good for babies.

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General Discussion / Re: Coconut oil
« on: July 18, 2010, 04:10:19 am »
It says its raw

kind of expensive

13 dollars a jar

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello from the Pacific Northwest...
« on: July 15, 2010, 10:48:15 am »
welcome

Like yourself I have been searching around for help, before eating exclusively raw for the past six months

A lot of people are dealing with the same problems as you. There is definitely a real physical cause for our these problems, that will never be recognized by those who will only try to medicate you with toxic drugs.

I am 27 and been eatting a low crab high fat raw meat diet for six months

I have resolved many of my mental and physical problems on this diet.{I was a boarderline mental case}
                                                                                                possibly some type of poisoning?

I now believe this is the only type of diet where one can avoid the negative effects of modern food production, while at the same time supply the body with all the necessary componits to rebuild a fresh life

As for old bone marrow, after a few days in the fridge It does get a kind of sour taste, but I eat it anyway without any ill effect, My kids love it as well.    

I would also recommend that you look into high meat as effective anti anxiety remedy,
It works for me and many others on this forum.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: 5 months of raw and doing good
« on: July 07, 2010, 11:16:47 am »
I was keeping my High meat in a mini fridge that was part of my water cooler, so I could keep it out of the main fridge ;but it broke just recently{because my kids kept playing in it and left the door open }  I am in the market for an other.

 It was the perfect place for making high meat, it could fit about 10 mason. I had it sitting by the back porch so I could air out the jars out the back of the house.

I have tried to preach the Gospel of raw and rotten to all who will listen, I have shone the high meat to my parents and eaten it in front of them to prove to them I wont die of food poisoning, everyone can see how much better I am, My granny praises me all the way, but I still get negative feedback like {you don't feed that to you kids do you?}from most others. Its sad because most members of my family also have health problems that I know could be resolved by this type of diet.

I feel obligated to lie about the kids diet, though I have started giving my 2 year old raw egg with raw milk {for what my great grand mother called egg nog}: she also loves bone marrow, a little red meat, oysters etc. I can collect an egg from our chickens and crack the top open and let her drink it for a refreshing snack. 

I can tell you all that my children are thriving and are about the healthiest and brightest I have known , while on the other hand almost every child born into my family is stricken with some type of ailmen or condition{no exaggeration}

My brother has epilepsy my sister lost her hair at 2 and is mentally slow even though we have an intelligent blood line, I had pneumonia at six months,major ear infections,tubes impanted,asthma allergy's, my uncle Scott got the first round of dpt,and was never right after that{autism}.My wife has diabetes, my cousin got seizures after chicken pox shot, my other cousin had twitchin, migraines, numbness.I have a cousin that was born with a shriveled thyroid. The list could go on but I must digress.

What is most disturbing is that I am aware enough to recognize whats going on, I come from an intelligent blood line My father had a Masters in biology by the time he was 21. I have independently studied reality outside of the box, and have noticed a definite decline in intelligence and physical ability of the younger generation. Whether or not Its because its the of the generational accumulation of toxic environmental waste, poor diet food quality, or the deliberate culling of the population through vaccines and dangerous pesticides fertilizers,corn syrup, gmos,etc:is up for debate.

Whatever is going on, it is up to me to repair the damage and protect my children and make others aware of the ignorance that is poison.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: 5 months of raw and doing good
« on: July 06, 2010, 10:24:41 am »
Putrefy to me means: decomposition, sometimes I use an exaggerated term when a more prudent one would suffice.

Coconut butter is pure bliss when used as a dipping sauce for raw meat. It is on a completely different level of goodness when compaired to plain oil. It is like coconut oil, cream and flesh whipped together into a rich and velvety treat.  It contains about 7 carbs per serving and I eat about 4 servings a day so that's about 21 carbs{my main source of carbohydrate as of now)

My metabolism seems to do well with The low carb approach.(because of past issues with sugar spikes)

Those issues seem to be resolved, so now if I eat carbs it seems to trigger borderline low sugar

My experience with high meat has been positive
I am a little worried that I allowed it to get too strong after my fridge quit working for a few days and my lamb turned very liquid, I at the normal dose anyway and went into a very high state,  I cut the dose in half the next round and seemed to find equanimity.

I still wonder is there a limit to how long I should let the meat age before replacing it with a newer batch,my average age now is about two months aged AV style


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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Try this...
« on: July 04, 2010, 08:33:55 am »
I used to chew a big wad of the stuff like gum when I first started this diet.

 I think it has to be rich in minerals?(connective tissue)

I would chew until my jaw would cramp, and my jowls beefed up considerably during the first 3 months

Eventually I lost interest and quit chewwing so much.

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General Discussion / Re: Coconut oil
« on: July 04, 2010, 06:09:29 am »
I use raw coconut butter as a dipping sauce for nearly all my meat

totally awesome tasting

It is very rich and taste like sweet cream, so much better than plain oil

It is like a mixture of oil and cream and has the nutrition of the whole coconut

Expensive but worth it

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Welcoming Committee / Re: 5 months of raw and doing good
« on: June 28, 2010, 02:22:58 am »
High meat is not a food by it self. Its aged putrefied meat full of flesh eating organisms.

It is more like supplemental source of biologically active organisms and chemical compounds that stimulate health, rejuvenation, and wellbeing. I think it also primes the gut for optimal digestion of fresh raw meat.

It has psychoactive properties that seem to boost serotonin secretion and production, in a way far Superior to any drug contrived by man.(Just opinion based on personal experience)

I have been making it the av way in mason Jars I keep in my water cooler fridge{slightly warmer than home fridge).

I am still trying to master the art of good high meat, looking for balance of potency and taste.


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Welcoming Committee / Re: 5 months of raw and doing good
« on: June 26, 2010, 10:30:01 pm »
I am 27 years old ( hopfully young enough to rebuild my self from the inside out)
  
I worked as an electrician when I first got sick , I convinced myself that it was a result of some type of occupational poisoning (PCB, aluminum, radon gas,electric fields,etc. My Diet was also fairly poor which may of prevented healthy elimination. I had a hair analysis done, my aluminum was off the chart, manganese, nickel and cadmium was high as well. My selenium , magnesium, and trace minerals were low

Started making high meat about 2 months in to the diet, and have been eatting ripe high meat (lamb,beef,goose) for about three months .

I had issues with depression (neurological issues). It was all part of a condition(diagnosed chronic fatigue
I went to the health department for three years and all they could do is prescribe anti depressants, which i refused to take(mind poison). My white blood counts were always slightly low, I would go in with swollen lymphnodes, elevated liver enzymes , and blood sugar, and high Epstein Barr titers, skin rashes , and there was nothing they could even suggest for me to do, so I resigned my self to suffer and haven't been to the doctor for two years. I went to the Er when I had meningitis, and even though I had a infection of some kind my white counts were slightly low(some immune issue).  

I had food sensitivity's, sometimes wheat or other starchy foods would make me feel disoriented, and vegtables would pass completely undigested. Every time I ate I would have to deal with a sharp pain in my upper left side. I also had trouble with greasy foods, if I ate anything with vegtable grease, Id get sick, often the oil would pass undigested as well

Before I tried This diet I tried liver flushes and got tons of stones, but it offered only slight relief. I went on a low fat diet high in cooked vegtables with a little cooked meat ,but by that time I was so malnourished()145 pounds 6 foot tall, pre diabetic; nothing helped.

I believe that the large amounts of raw animal fat and protein I began to eat 6 months ago, was what I needed all along to clean and rejuvenate my toxic and depleted body. The high meat seemed to jump start my immune system and boost my moods,  so that I no longer consider myself depressed. I eat a small piece in the morning with some fat and fresh meat. I call it my medicine.

At first I was ravenously eating about 2.5 pounds of beef, half pound of fat, and one third jar of raw coconut butter a day. It seemed it was hard for me to tell when I was full, Now my appetite is more moderate, but at 175 I feel I have reached an optimal size, and I fell completely satisfied after eating.



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Welcoming Committee / 5 months of raw and doing good
« on: June 26, 2010, 05:47:48 pm »
I haven't posted much, but have been following the forrum for 5 months

I was chronic fatigued with liver congestion and blood sugar/metabolic issues, and constant viral illness

I have been eating very low carb- raw animal foods , with high meat for about 6 months.

Its been truly a blessing to find a way of eating that is true to my nature, I feel like I have been missing

this my whole life.

In the past  few months I have gained 20 pounds of good lean weight, were as before I could hardly eat

enough to maintain my bones: without sugar spikes, abdominal pain, and nausea.

Now my body regulates it self to the point were I eat a meal of meat and fat, and feel truly full and

satisfied.  After a couple of months on raw meat my blood sugar leveled of to in between 80 to 95, when

before it would always spike after a meal to 130 to 140 sometimes higher and make me feel horrible.

I believe I had adrenal burnout, because after a mono infection 5 years ago, I was stricken with months

of fatigue, my adrenals would actually be burning with pain along with my liver and pancreas. my

lymphnodes would swell for weeks at a time. My muscles would burn with pain and my tendons would

tighten up () during flare ups.

This last winter I was ill with viral meningitis, hand foot and mouth, swine flu: within a three month span.


So you see it was only out of desperation that I started to eat raw flesh after finding AV and reading

about the guts and grease diet of the native Americans.

I am greatfull to say that feel I am on the right road to recovery now and I feel better than I can ever

remember feeling, My libido is back to capacity ( testosterone boost)even have thicker chest hair

As of now I have been maintaining myself on     Pasture raised black Angus
                                                                 lamb and or beef fat trimmings
                                                                  bone marrow
                                                                   raw coconut butter(main carbohydrate)very yummy
                                                           also
                                                                 high meat
                                                                  oysters
                                                                   organ meat(liver, kidney, spleen, heart)
                                                                    egg yokes(back yard chickens)

I have tried some fruit but think I do better without , my sugar doesn't go high any more , but sometimes if I eat some berries my sugar will drop to about 70 after a couple of hours , insulin response?

Well that's it for now

2624
Off Topic / Re: Query for RPDers
« on: April 08, 2010, 10:42:54 am »
I had liver stones real bad. I have done  4 flushes and every time I had about a half a cup of pea size stones come out. I always felt some relief but it never lasted more than a couple of weeks, because I was still on a cooked diet.

I have so much better digestion now, after three months on the raw diet, I am not sure doing any more flushes will be helpful. I also had real bad fungal issues after each flush, I think taking Epsom salt is a little harsh

I was more interested in the egg yoke flush. I have not tried it, but some mornings if I am not to hungry I will just eat a couple of yokes with nothing else.

For a long time I thought I was poisoned and was convinced that I could fast it out and flush it out, and I only got worse. I had a hair analysis done and it showed my aluminum was of the chart, high manganese, nickle and a potassium magnesium inversion. I even thought I could have been exposed to PCB, radon asbestos ,kryptonite, etc : being a commercial electrician I am constantly crawling in unknown substances.

Now I understand that the only way to clean the body without depleting its vitality, is to saturate it with the raw materials of life, and let the body do the healing as nature designed it to.

Raw fat and meat seem to be what I have been missing. I will have to stick to the low carb diet until my fungus issue resolve. It seems that fruits and other carbs cause some type outbreak on my tongue and the outbreak coinsides with fatigue and disoriented feeling.The doctor calls it geographic tongue, but I know its fungal.

I believe the Wai diet might work better for my children. I have three of the most wonderful gifts god has blessed me with and they are doing wonderfully on a more Weston Price type diet, I have started giving them raw milk and my 18 month old loves raw fat trimmings , marrow and egg yoke in her milk. My three year old started on cooked foods so he is a little picky but he loves fruit and rare meat.   I believe My whole family will thrive off of raw food.

 My wife is the only hold out. she will eat bloody rare stake, but has an aversion to any type of fat. She also eats a lot of grains, and I often have to make compromises with her over the kids diet.

 She was very wary when I first started eating raw meat, but the results spoke for themselves. Around 6 weeks into the diet my energy levels greatly improved and my sex drive went through the roof [ boost in testosterone], she even noticed my chest hair getting thicker, my face is fuller, and I grew love handles.




2625
Off Topic / Re: Query for RPDers
« on: April 05, 2010, 11:27:04 am »
I have a testimony I would like to post. I have been on the raw low carb diet for over three months. It was desperation on my part . After having chronic fatigue for 5 years, along with blood sugar issues and chronic viral outbreaks that began with a unexplained illness. I had a mono infection that became chronic epstien barr, swollen lymph nodes, liver congestion, high eosinophil count, fungal infections. I had shingles viral meningitis , and even contracted canine parvo . I am not sure what happened to me. I believe it was a combination of occupational poisoning and poor diet.

For the last few years life has been difficult for me. Everything I ate seemed to make me ill. My stools were pasty and undigested. I would have pancreatic pain and sugar spikes with every meal. I wasted down last winter to 145 pounds, being 6 foot tall. I got stomach pain after eating cooked meat, and tried cooked vegetarian diet, which just made me weak and deficient, and made my blood sugar issues worse.

I went to the health department and had all types of test done, all they could do was diagnose chronic fatigue, high epstien barr titers 2 years after the infections began, low white cell counts, slightly off liver functions, slightly high blood sugar, and swollen lymph nodes. I swear my adrenal glands would sometimes burn with pain, and I could hardly get out of bed. I also had scary neurological issues, such as hand tremors and dizziness, as well as dementia (at age 24). All the doctor could do was recommend anti depressants to ease my emotional suffering, but being educated about the toxic nature of pharmaceutical drugs, I refused to be doped up and finally I gave up on medical science ever being able to help me.

I began trying every diet ever thought of for healing. Eliminating grains did give me some relief, but I was still very ignorant and tried to replace grains
with cooked vegetables so healing never took place. I decided to keep looking for a way to heal and I stumbled across the RAF diet in a roundabout way. I found the Westin Price web site and started learning about traditional diets of so called primitive cultures. And then I finally began to understand that the health problems I had suffered throughout my entire life (asthma, migraine headaches, acne, and overall sickliness) were caused by the unnatural factory food I had been eating my whole life.

I have a very mixed heritage that includes European and Native American ancestors. Just two generations ago most of my family lived humble lives in the hills of Kentucky, and most of their food came from the woods and what they provided for themselves. They all lived to be old and maintained good health. With the first and second generation of my people moving into the city, we were stricken with the diseases of civilization. There is hardly a person I know who has had optimal health who has grown up off of supermarket food.

Reading about the Native Americans who were once so fierce and noble when they lived off of guts and grease,and how they were culled by the reservation rations of rancid grains and starchy vegetables, inspired me to rethink everything I knew. I began to realize that the SAD diet was culling me and my family in the same way,and was preventing humanity from living in optimum health. So I began to eat raw meat out of faith and desperation. My friend killed a deer and I butchered it ate the organs raw and packed my freezer. I also slaughtered my two goats and ate them. Within a week I was feeling better.

I did more research and found AV, and began to implement some of his recommendations. Avocados and raw dairy, as well as green juices. The green juices didn't seem to help that much, so I stuck with meat. I bought a whole lamb and ate it with some fatty beef ribs for a couple of weeks. About that I started gaining healthy weight, and my blood sugar issues resolved - staying stable around 100. I found some local grass fed black angus beef for about 3 dollars a pound and they even gave me extra lamb fat for free. I soon realized I felt better eating about 70% fat and about 20 carbs a day.

Its been a little over three months and I have gained 20 pounds of healthy weight and all of my symptoms have improved. I have been reading this forum and it has helped me in fine tuning my healing diet. I have been making and using high meat with noticeable benefits. Three months is too soon to declare a cure for chronic fatigue, because I have had relapses in the past, but I would like to thank you guys for enlightening me about this way of life that has been responsible for my improved health and well being. I will try to keep you posted and may try to start a journal to mark my progress.

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