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General Discussion / Re: Spotting Good Quality Liver
« on: September 20, 2018, 03:02:09 am »
I get the frozen wild deer liver.
It has a lot of blood.
And it's taste is so much strong that I am unable to eat it.

Do you prefer grass fed liver or the wild liver taste wise?

... After exhausting the older animals from this farm, I have four young rams left to go

How old were those animals?

I can get 6 to 7 years old mother sheep (grass fed) very cheap. But their meat seems to be tougher. Is it ok?

Hot Topics / Re: Sweating: Why and how to control excess sweating?
« on: July 31, 2018, 03:02:47 am »
In my case, this problem of sweating goes long long back when I ate SAD. 
At moment I am eating no high meat, but still sweating.

I am sometimes washing it and some times not (while I am confused right from the beginning if I have to do it or not  :) )

OK, I wash meat pieces, but if it is ground meat, then I eat it without washing.

And I have also never tried washing Suet  :)

Chicken I don't eat.

So, do you wash your meat or not?

Hot Topics / Sweating: Why and how to control excess sweating?
« on: July 31, 2018, 01:57:37 am »
Problem is of Summer and Sweating

Why is it?

I drink 2-3 litres of water in summer, but somehow release 4-5 litre of water through sweating  :)

Any help?

General Discussion / Re: Bananas
« on: June 30, 2018, 11:31:06 am »
Oh no, not when they are really ripe and overripe. Ripe when their skin starts to have black spot, and overripe when it gets completely black and soft all over. One of the most delicious and nourishing fruit!

Iguana, are the plantains in the markets of Europe are of good enough quality to be eaten?

How long do they take to be ripen or over ripen? And do they go bad during this process and should be thrown away?

General Discussion / Re: Raw, untreated water phenomenon
« on: June 08, 2018, 04:09:45 am »
I started collecting my water from a nearby lake recently. Where do you fellows get your water? I can't imagine being the only one seeking out wild water. Nestle owns most the bottled water where I live and don't want them making money off me; lake water costs me no money. Lake water is more refreshing to me than tap, bottled, and even rainwater. With chlorine, asbestos, lead, dioxins, melamine, fluoride, and etc in the bottled and tap water yet people call it "clean". How deluded can people be?

What other options are left there if one is living in a big city?

What about simple water filtering systems like Brita.

Are they helpful or do they have negative effects?

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Raw brain buying concern?
« on: May 26, 2018, 08:16:31 pm »
Don't you get bored eating same things again and again and again?

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: May 23, 2018, 07:19:20 pm »
I would also like to mention that I extremely dislike bone broth, the taste is repulsive and it always sits heavy in my stomach. To get around the taste of cooked meat I first scrap the bones as clean as possible then place them in a crock pot with two cups of apple cider vinegar on low for about 24 hours. Then I strain off all the broth and rinse all the cooked meat from the bones, afterwards I put back the clean bones into the crock pot with spring water and two more cups of vinegar and leave it on warm for about three days.

This way all allows for much of the horrid taste of cooked meat to be discarded leaving a very soft, clean bone which can be eaten easily. I have recently started keeping the temp on low warm and doing a second rinse cycle to get an even cleaner taste and softer consistency. The large joints will turn into a honeycomb of delicious mineral goodness.

Derek, sometimes I feel I am little bit duffer.

May I ask you why you use "vinegar" if you discard the broth and don't drink it?

My understanding is this that people use vinegar so that the calcium comes out of the bone and lands into the broth, so that people can get it from the broth and they don't have to chew the bones for the calcium.

But in your case, you discard the broth and eat the bones. Then would it not be better to not to use the vinegar, so that the calcium stays in the bones when you eat them?

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: May 19, 2018, 12:16:48 pm »
It seems that bones actually vastly exceed the Upper Intake Level of Calcium (2.5 grams) when consumed, even in amounts not considered that large (100 grams for example). Now, perhaps not all of it is getting absorbed, but it makes you think...

100 grams of bones would have anywhere from 13 to 23! grams of calcium. It  seems I was also wrong when I said it contained "only" a high phosphorus content. It turns out that is also huge (highest of any food?), at 6 to 10 grams per 100 grams. The tolerable Upper Intake Level of Phosphorus is only 4 grams, so again, it exceeds that.


But what about the lower limits?

How could we get calcium and phosphorous from organs and meat diet only?

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: May 19, 2018, 03:22:49 am »
Regarding the bones:
Bones have an extremely high amount of calcium (highest of any food by far) in them, along with a high phosphorus content. The bone marrow within also has a high calcium content, containing as much as most dairy.

Did the inuits eat fish bones in their traditional diet?

According to the following scientific paper, the calcium from fish bones is absorbed easily by the humans.

Calcium from salmon and cod bone is well absorbed in young healthy men

I personally eat anywhere from 200-400 grams of fat, not sure how that compares to everyone else.

And how much grams of proteins are you consuming with 400 grams of fat?

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: May 19, 2018, 02:57:39 am »
Thanks Van and PaganGoy.

How much fat is being suggested on this diet?

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: May 18, 2018, 04:02:36 pm »
He's a 'follower' of AV.  AV said we can't hydrate with water, that animals don't need to or drink water...   Thus the milk and juice needs. Pretty hard to find fresh blood daily.   He also travels constantly,,, thus pretty hard to find good fats to go along with his steaks,, thus, in part, he's trading fat for carbs from the juice, as you'll notice the oranges he uses to 'make it taste better'.  Odd that he doesn't seem to remember the negative things he's said about vegs.  But then maybe he believes the plants' toxins are locked up in the pulp.   I do have the experience when I shredded and juiced broccoli stems that if I cut off the tough exterior and the shredded and sucked the juice, it was much tastier.  It makes sense if you think about the plants first line of defense being it's skin and that is where the concentration of pesticides are.    The tops of broccoli are abysmal by themselves....

Van: What are your final conclusions?

(1) Vegetable Juices:
Are the juices from carrots, reddish etc are hydrating and could be used?

(2) In Video, Derek showed that he makes the broths of bones for 3-4 days using little vinegar. After that he eats the bones for the minerals and he thinks it is absolutely necessary for those who do the raw meat diet.

Eat less carbohydrates and less calories, do not eat dairy, do intermittent fasting or fast for longer periods, reduce food palatability so you eat less. Although in general as long as your are not eating high carb and a massive amount of calories, you should be able to lose weight (if you are overweight) eating to satiation. Although that often depends on the person, some very easily gain weight and highly palatable foods make it much easier to gain weight. Nutrient dense foods (such as organ meats) are generally harder to eat much of, and therefore a better option to lose weight while eating enough vitamins/minerals. If you eat a larger amount of carbohydrates in a meal, you should also not eat fat in that same meal.

I would not recommend on losing weight if you are at a stable weight, and instead focus on your natural appetite. Another way to gain muscle and lose fat would be resistance training, although that would increase the amount of calories you would need to eat to build muscle (and protein, vitamins/minerals).


One question: I read one need at least 25 grams of organs per day.
My question is, what is the upper limit of the organs consumption?
And in my case, I have got hands only to high quality hearts (wild). I have no liver, no tongue or kidney etc. I have only wild heart and wild fat.


The fat helps a lot with digestion, and is a great to get calories when your trying to gain weight/muscle.

And how to loose weight on the raw paleo diet?

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: Rocky Mountain Oysters
« on: May 11, 2018, 01:03:17 am »
I made them this morning with garlic pepper cilantro and hot sauce. (Didn't need any salt as it was already in the hot sauce.) I think they would have been better with hot sauce and garlic only. Also they were kind of tough and chewy and needed to be in smaller slices to more or less swallow whole similar to eating oysters so next time I will run them whole through the food processor with my slicer attachment. I wish I'd left them in chunks big enough to fit in the food processor instead of slicing them for this. Even so I still liked them better than drinking them in a smoothie.

What to try next?

I have eaten only lamb testicles.
And trick is to remove the outer skin. One could do it with hand with little force.
And the inside stuff is absolutely not tough or chewy (It is only the outer skin which is tough and chewy).

Please watch this video

General Discussion / Re: aged cheese much better than raw beef
« on: May 09, 2018, 01:21:27 pm »

Clabbered milk - strange that the milk went moldy for you. I did quite some experiments with clabbered milk to get quark, cream and butter and left it out for way longer than 3 days (in the summer with high humidity) and it never got moldy. I put it in a 5 liter glass jar outside and sealed the top. I used raw conventional jersey milk, maybe A1 can get moldy. I don´t know. But pasteurized milk gets moldy when left outside for sure. Ur 100 % that u have pure raw milk?

Pasteurized milk - in yoghurt form works great for me. It always helps food to move. Rest like milk, cheese or cream I wouldn´t recommend.

Once clabbered milk is made, then how long will it last in the refrigerator?
And if fresh cheese is made out of this clabbered milk, then how long will in last in the refrigerator?

Do you feel clabberd milk (from raw milk) to be better than yoghurt from pasteurized milk?

General Discussion / Re: aged cheese much better than raw beef
« on: May 02, 2018, 01:08:44 pm »
I am underweight and constantly hungry.
I tried to isolate the problem with HCL - i tried no protein diet and no fats- it is a disaster for me - i tried only fruits, then only starches like potatoes - i think they are worse than cooked meat. I decided to try fruits because i read about way diet and her claims that sugar moves intestines - but many people especially here in Europe have fructose malabsorption and eating fruits and some veggies is very bad idea - also honey.
Then i tried some raw fish called bacalhao - i think all raw fish is great but not easy to buy here - we have only frozen fish and when you defrost it nothing is left - 80% water and 20% meat. Yesterday i eat raw duck liver - it was disgusting but i eat it frozen - it was foye grass - so fatted liver from grain fed ducks - nothing to do with wild duck liver but this is what we have here.

In which country of Europe are you living?

In general, in most of the Europe you would be able to get the fresh lamb liver/heart/brain/organs. In my area, mostly Muslim Shops are selling fresh lamb meat and organs.

The quality differs. In summer, when lambs are out on the green fields, then the organs have good to acceptable quality. In winter months, quality is bad. Some times, quality also changes from one shop to another.
Nevertheless, despite inferior quality, one is able to eat them and they indeed helped me.

Later I found a source from a private shepherd in the nearby hilly area. Quality was much better there as compared to the Muslim shops, although he also fed them with grains in winter, but 100% grasses in summer.

I would start a video diary of some sorts about my raw paleo diet and how it combats my candida/depression. The thing is though that I don't feel like doing it because I am depressed. This sounds funny but is actually terrible. Imagine if I were to capture my transformation from depressed to happy and healthy on youtube while eating raw paleo. It would bring in lots of people because depression and candida are serious problems lots of people have.

Waiting for your first video.

You underestimate the sheer laziness of the human race.

100% true.

Previously, we have had all sorts of people, including myself, argue for books/videos galore on the subject of RVAF diets, but most people are just too lazy to do anything. The one time I did something, a collaborator chose to "reword" everything I said etc. What we really need is an excellent charismatic, seemingly normal,  author, on the level of a Dr Atkins or a Dr Mercola, who is extremely photogenic and charismatic, and who churns out books and videos by the score.

Once I hoped that Inger would do that task. She got the qualities. Although I don't know about her writing skills and she was not a doctor. But then Inger disappeared.

Also, internet forums in general have slowed down or disappeared completely every since 2004. Sensible people recognise that real life is more important.....

But I also doubt that one big reason was also the popularity of Facebook/Twitter which caused the closure of discussion forums.

Do we need a facebook account of raw paleo diet? Is it going to help new members to get in touch easily with us?

Up till now there 50% contributions by Tylor and 50% by rest of the members. I am following you since you were giving the answers of questions at another website. I started raw paleo due to you. And I hope many others like me also followed you from there.

To Senior Members:

It seems to me that our forum (rawpaleodietforum) is not so active as it was in the past.

I don't know what is the rate of new people turning to raw paleo as compared to the past.

When new visitor comes to our forum, then it is difficult for them to understand raw paleo. "Search" option is not optimal for the new comers as they don't know what they should search for. 

The best thing at moment is the informations to the newcomers section by Tylor (really helpful). But still it needs a lot more of material to become convince and to get the courage to go raw paleo.

Here came the detailed raw paleo book/wiki project, which was supposed to have enough informations to cover almost all the topics.

I don't know what happened to that project.

Any how, it seems to me that "Video" project may be easier than wiki/book project.

For example, Derek has 10 youtube Videos. They are excellent and I have seen them many times. But I know that Derek has written a lot more of informations in this forum in different threads, in different replies. 

So my question is, if it would be possible for the senior members here to make some kind of Video Project about raw paleo diet? Or at least an individual project would also be cool.

Therefore, my request is to make Videos ... videos about every thing from your life ... how you eat, what you eat, how you store meat, how you live, how you exercise ....  This is different than this forum where informations get lost among many many threads and replies.

General Discussion / Re: Do glands regenerate after abuse?
« on: April 24, 2018, 03:25:15 am »
In the 1970's I used to take dried raw glandulars, sometimes consuming an entire bottle of desiccated liver in just a few days. I am a big believer in raw glandular therapy but these days I can't afford to buy them in the quantities I want so I have been consuming raw glandular meat smoothies for the past several years. Liver, kidney, sweetbreads (thymus), tripe, heart and bull testicles. I've consumed them all in the past. I used to think that it was the bull testicles that were doing the most good and were the ones mostly responsible for raising my testosterone but recently I've been consuming liver and sweetbread smoothies only and they seem to be the ones that are doing the trick. I read that liver has the most vitamins and that the thymus is the gland that produces T cells. (I always thought it was the thyroid.) The thymus is the gland responsible for the immune system and is also believed to contribute to youth and vigor. (The thymus is largest during puberty and almost disapears when you reach the age of 50.)

I did 40 dips last week and 25 pullups the week before and the best part is I'm 60 years old and managed to get rid of my gray hair naturally. I don't know if it will cure your condition but am confident that it will definitely help and be the best thing you can do for yourself.

What I do is buy the meat in large quantities, take it home, slice it up thin and put it in plastic baggies in my freezer. Several times a day I take one out, whack it on the counter to break it up and dump it in my food processor to grind it up and slowly add water till it reaches the right smoothie consistency. I own a pretty good slicer so I can freeze the meat into blocks, take it out for an hour or two and slice it with my slicer while still slightly frozen. I don't bother with the liver anymore because they sell calves liver sliced and individually frozen already.

Would you be please kind enough to make Video of your organs/meat smoothies and how you slice the frozen meat etc.

General Discussion / Re: Raw Cod Liver? Has anyone tried it?
« on: March 12, 2018, 04:33:01 am »
canned food is high high heat processed,, bad for pufas.   Almost ate raw cod liver  in Norway, but the fisherman said it was riddled with nasties..

Isn't freezing Cod liver at -18 degree for 7 days kills all these nasty things?

General Discussion / Raw Cod Liver? Has anyone tried it?
« on: March 11, 2018, 11:04:47 pm »

I wonder if any one has tried raw cod liver?

How does it taste?

Did you feel any health benefits after eating it?

Lately I found canned rod liver in the market, but I am not found of canned foods. But I tried it and it tasted good. That is why I am wondering if any one has tried raw cod liver?

General Discussion / Re: Storing raw meat
« on: March 11, 2018, 02:44:19 am »
Hello everybody i've tried to eat some raw liver and regular meat for the past 3 month now, and i feel like it would be alot cheaper to buy parts of a let's say a cow and hang it in a fridge.
I've seen a guy called Derek on youtube put alot of meat into his fridge where he stores it with low humidity and tempeture.

My question is.... How do i control humidity and air flow within a fridge if it's not a specific (Dry aging fridge) because the one Derek used didn't really look like one of those (Dry aging fridge) so if anyone could help me here it would be super nice. Do i need a specific tool or anything or am i completely wrong and he uses a special fridge?

Thanks alot to anyone who can help!

Sneppen :)

In the meantime please see the old threads about storing meat, eg.

There are others too (here), who could guide you in this matter.

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