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Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« on: July 30, 2018, 11:21:58 pm »

General Discussion / Re: Vegetable Police
« on: July 30, 2018, 11:00:51 pm »
He uses my vice article photo in this one

Hot Topics / Re: HGH , Anabolic Hormones vs RAW MEAT and old age
« on: July 30, 2018, 10:44:46 pm »
That sounds fantastic, but many people here who do not trust incredible statements at face value, and showing a few examples of human specimens who are thriving off of such a cocktail would at least open up peoples minds for further consideration.

Hot Topics / Re: HGH , Anabolic Hormones vs RAW MEAT and old age
« on: July 30, 2018, 09:14:47 am »
Synthetic hormones are sooo not paleooo

If there is well sourced evidence, or testimonials from credible people which would prove the long term safety of using synthetic hormones, then present it to the forum in order to back up such claims as to their health benefit.

What Tyler is saying regarding how hormonal supplements can ruin your endocrine system and lead to long term hormone derangement has a factual basis. Even HGH has a long list of side effects even when used somewhat responsibly long term.

Examples like Arnold come to mind and even though he used steroids responsibly, it had long term negative effects. Other people like Stalone can use HGH properly and maintain fair results, but only if they keep using it chronically. People who supplement for long periods of time tend to atrophy when they ween off the dope.

These practices though they can offer short term advantages cannot be endorsed by people who are aware of the cumulative negative effects.

My personal views regarding the supplementation of the elderly with modest doses of bioidentical hormones differs somewhat...compared to the supplementation of young jocks just trying to get jacked. People who have already past reproductive age and are beyond being able to naturally rebuild their glandular system to prime levels may have a positive risk to benefit ratio when it comes to hormone supplementation, if done properly.

My girlfriend just turned 60 and has been using hormone replacement therapy of and on for the last ten years. When I got with her she was weaning off of hormone supplements and would get hot flashes, but otherwise seemed to function well...also at the time I managed to convince her to eliminate soy, wheat, and sugar which seemed to help reduce the hot flash symptoms as well as lose 20 pounds....

She just recently began to supplement again with sub dermal pellets containing progesterone, testosterone, and estrogen. Immediately the hot flashes stopped and the sex drive went off the charts, she also gained a few pounds and better muscle tone and overall strength. In cases like this perhaps the positives do outway any negative long term effects, and people who have already reached a certain age may want to live it up the last few years and are willing to trade in a few of their 80s years in order to rock out throughout their 70s.

General Discussion / Re: Sv3rige Meeting 2018
« on: July 28, 2018, 06:25:46 am »
Sv3rig through his outgoing and unapologetic enthusiasm, is bridging the gap between the cooked and Raw paleo movements.

His efforts, combine with those of the broader paleo community are freeing many suffering souls from bondage to the vegan agenda.

There are worlds of difference between eating fiber contained in low glycemic whole plant foods and the fiber of highly starchy and processed foods. I consume a fair amount of coconut, along with some other plants like tomatoes, avocado, salad greens, various herbs, occasional small amounts of nuts and seeds. After living this way for a number of years my body will let me know if I have had too much, or the wrong type of fiber with subtle signals like bloating, or a change in cravings. You should be able to "slowly" add back small amounts of a limited variety of low glycemic, (non grain or legume) fiber containing foods without compromising the overall benefits of ZC. Be very patient and take it really slow with introducing new foods...sometimes there can be delayed reactions in which by the time you notice a negative effect you have already eaten too much of something...other times the negative gut reaction may be a result of a hostile realignment of gut microflora which may seem like a negative event, such as a temporary period of loose stools, or bloating... in the long term such episodes may be necessary in order to find the balance that best works for you. In order for your body to teach you how best to live it may be necessary to do some experiment trials with different foods with while using caution, moderation and discernment

Going completely carnivor helped me in the beginning during transition, but after a while I noticed something was lacking, and eatting just meat and fat without adequate organs, blood, marrow, glands would trigger periods of meat burnout, where 100% all plain meat doesn't appeal. Adding adequate organs along with around 10% low glycemic plant foods has helped me find a balance.

We can only assume that the source is of good enough quality, but even so it would be wise to branch out and find different sources, sometimes some animals from some farms are deficient in some way, and trying different sources will insure you dont build up any major imbalance, plus it will help train your taste buds to better seek out the most optimis primal supply.

Science / Re: Dodgy antiobiotics can leave people with crippling pain
« on: July 25, 2018, 03:13:12 am »
Bacteria are evolving and developing antibiotic resistance... building up symbiotic relationships with other microbes forming biofilms which shield it from traditional antibiotics like penicillin. So in order to continue the arms race medical science has learned to combine antibiotic drugs with highly neurotoxic fluoride based compounds such as "fluoroquinolones". Fluoride combined with antibiotics are more capable of penetrating deep into the tissues and breaking through the defenses of these pesky biofilms, but it is also much more toxic and damaging to all the tissues of the body and causes lasting the bacteria are now quickly evolving immunity to fluoroquinolones, so many people are becoming chronically infected with antibiotic resistance bacteria while suffering great damage from the drugs that are now becoming ineffective.

General Discussion / Re: Sv3rige Meeting 2018
« on: July 24, 2018, 02:58:06 pm »
There may be a difference in how people from the other side of the pond feel about being openly associated with an infamous wild Man like sv3rig. There are lots of oppressive anti hate laws and nanny state regulations. Count Dankula being arrested for hitler dog comes to mind. Avatars and alter egos are a refuge for some who live in areas where expressing who they are isnt always socially or legally acceptable. Though aliases are helpful for skirting around censorship and transcending cuckolded culture, it can have its problems such as when people become identified with the lofty aspirational identity and forget to pay mind to all the little things that truly make up life's more down and dirty reality

Ive gone back and forth on my views of whether its better being entirely open in all circumstances, or living in meek obscurity. I don't post pictures of my children eating Raw meat on social media because of hateful trolls having authorities called in on anonymous complaints in the past. Every new school year some teachers aid calls child protective services about one of my kids saying how their dad kills sheep and drinks blood. Besides the big issue of trying to my protect children, there is a thought that there may come a time, even in the land of the free when freely associating with the "wrong" type of person will get you put on a undesirable list. China is already this way( ever notice anyone from mainland china here?) Many other peoples from many other lands use much more subtle and sophisticated ways of enforcing conformity to established norms.... like public shaming, gaslighting, and straw manning. Most of this war going on is mental, and in places like Denmark you are still relatively physically free to live as you please. Being marginalized, ostracised and prejudiced by other people is a small price to pay for living the Rawsome Life.

I personally like "playing" with different roles and personas.... being a covert cloak and dagger esoteric on some occasions, while being dead pan serious on others...or even a bit whimsical just for kicks.....not sure how helpful for building a community or convincing others of the tenants of raw, but it gives things contrast and it confuses the hell out of any of the nanny state authorities, trolls, abusive people, and the future profiling bots who would be snooping around. You hear me out there(wink wink), cyber christ as my witness, I am not going to launch a physical assault on the headquarters of Monsanto-Bear, becoming a rogue vigilante against the purveyors of genocide..... at least until my children are grown and I am more free to directly take on the corporately controlled wastelands that are now consuming the last remnant of a free world.....Hmm, There are probably a number of post here of mine like this one that would get the average person in places like Germany banned or even arrested if they were to be posted on mainstream social media.

Its been helpful to me to share in this little known backwater forum, to muse upon while currently laying relatively low and focusing on my family and life with the girlfriend. To those over the ocean where there may be more serious real world consequences for such controversial online chatter, and there may be less overall personal freedom of expression, you have to become sensitive to the sociological boundaries(real and perceived) and learn how to stand your ground, push back and test out other partners in crime and form an underground syndicate full of like minded legends...strength in numbers. Imagine 100 raw meat eaters gathering in public feasting on goat heads and other delectable parts.

Off Topic / Re: Infrared experimentation/biohacking
« on: July 24, 2018, 11:45:20 am »
I purchased a used single side tanning bed for 100$ on craigslist

Then I bought a pack of Red light Therapy bulbs on Amazon

All together around 400$ and it works well,
I use it primarily in winter time to help perk up and feed the cells some extra light when I cant get any natural sun.

You could also buy a standard tanning bed and convert it to red light therapy if you have the space and $

General Discussion / Re: sv3rige
« on: July 20, 2018, 07:43:15 am »
I wish some mainstream celebrity would endorse a RVAF diet. Well, there is Carol Alt, and Uma Thurman and Mel Gibson were at one time reported to be eating raw meat diets. The trouble with most celebrities, though, is that they flit from one craze to another. We need someone like Armand Tanny to represent us. If only Arnie had copied him instead of copying Reg Park....

It wont be long before a few of the new famous cooked carnivore converts will begin to find out about the raw side of things....I wish someone in the raw community could reach out to a few of the big time Icons like Joe Rogan, or even Basketball star and new paleo convert Lebron James....

The way everything is so interconnected these days all it would take is a mega star with a large enough alternative media platform to catapult the raw meme to the forefront of the nutritional zeitgeist.

General Discussion / Re: sv3rige
« on: July 19, 2018, 11:22:44 pm »

Curious if these accusations occured before he went Raw meat? He has only been following this current diet for a couple of years, before he claims to have been a long term vegan, apparently in order to please some girl. He told me after going vegan he became extremely ill and had to spend time in the hospital.

Perhaps reports of such behavior issues occurred during this period of time when he was malnourished and not eating very well

Science / Re: Betaine for working out and for weak stomach acid
« on: July 19, 2018, 11:13:36 pm »
How did it impair digestion?

Were you doing any odd food combinations with it?

I recommend keeping it carnal when consuming pancreas.... meat, fat, organs, stomach , bones and glands...other foods or supplements might not mix well with it

Cooking will destroy the vital living enzymes.

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: meat inspector advice? etc
« on: July 15, 2018, 11:55:37 am »
I cant say exactly what the regulations in canada are aboot, but from what I have seen in Merican facilities, when animal quality is poor often times the glands and organs have tell tale signs of to hide the fact that there are diseased animals being approved for human consumption regulators place bans on certain glands and organs writ large, because inspecting individual organs for blemishes is more trouble than its worth...

I have personally witnessed grass fed animals with swollen joints and liver cyst have all their organs condemned, while the rest of the animal is approved and passed through the line...This is standard practice and nobody in position of regulatory power will publicly admit there is a problem.

This is why I source my own animals directly from the farm....

Try looking up local craigslist ads for quality farms..... Ask around about small ma and pop butcher operations...become extremely and ye shall find.

General Discussion / Re: Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:31:49 am »
It would be a huge plus for raw foodies everywhere for anyone of his renowned to have open discussion on the benefits of going raw.

Lebron James is another prominent celebrity that if introduced to the power of Raw could jump-start the movement overnight.

There was always in my mind this slow game approach when it came to introducing this way of living to the modern world(my previous post here over the years will back up the bravado) Back around 2011 I began to truly believe that it would only be a matter of time before low carb meat based diets would come to the forefront of the mainstream nutritional debate.

The avant-gard cause celeb of Low Carb Cooked paleo is now being more accepted by the mainstream ethos. If we continue to work with diligence and tact from the periphery to prime the evolving consciousness and guide new initiates toward the Raw side of life, then it may not be very long before the movement reaches critical mass requirements for a dietary counter revolution....that is needed to transcend the limitations to our further evolution, placed on us by the social and nutritional confines that now exist at the end point of the neolithic agrarian revolution.

Much was learned through suffering and try-umph over the last 10,000 round the sun. The once wild world matured, it mutilated, mutated, sacrificed and then transferred its natural incarnate creative powers into the human world, from which billions of interconnected nodes of unfathomable neurological power, spread like mind fire. The entire race of the free and bound, every brother, sister, father, mother grown from the substrate of Neolithic thought, rot, and toil...brought to and beyond the ever present point of no return.... many have already reached the end of this bread line, after many lifetimes of great depression, many more will soon follow, no longer to tolerate a gluten fueled gluttonous existence. The signaling for alternative sources of fuel to energize the next stage of life experience with a new purpose has begun, the beacons are being ignited. Though the fog be thick and night darkness dims many minds, faint light hits the distant shores where bright eyes looking forever forward, see beyond the lost worlds shrouds with a head high, feet on the ground and oppossable thumbs up . Hold on no longer to the past and mobilize for nigh is the time of great transformation. The time is ripe to take the next leap, ye of Raw faith and fortune get ready to lead the charge!

General Discussion / Re: Kidney color
« on: July 13, 2018, 09:27:46 am »
Typically I have found that darker kidneys come from healthier animals. Ones with a rich deep dark color usually have a more favored flavor. I have had ones that are extremely pale and without color, they almost always taste horrid and I will not eat them. I would be personally weary of the light one in the picture!

Also Amish labeling means nothing! Ive seem some God Awful stuff come from the Amish farms in my area and wouldn't trust some guys claim as to its source without any other verification.

Its more common in my part of the world to find animals that fall somewhere in between dark and light..... often there is a lighter outer layer with the core color being much darker. To me this indicates that there may be some environmental stress, causing some damage to the outside layers, while the core maintains healthy function. Its not ideal, but sometimes you have to settle for whats available

I have seen this phenomenon in many animals while butchering at a commercial plant..hogs, lambs, cows, goats, deer....I have often wondered at the cause, and have suspected an number of factors to be in play that would cause "grass fed" animals to show signs of kidney stress.

Poor water quality such as municipal water that has been treated, but also stagnant swampy water on farms without fresh springs and streams, as well as polluted wells and streams.... 

Deficient land that is over grazed or cut will tend to be deficient in certain minerals needed for good overall health, and such land that has been depleted of its essential minerals makes animals more prone to accumulate toxic organ damaging elements such as cadmium, lead and aluminum....

Probably true. I will still work hard to avoid that tick though. Tick-borne illness is no joke!

I dont doubt its a real thing, but I often ponder if the disease carrying ticks are vectors of Gaia's wrath, that only adversely affect those who are for some reason or another more prone to suffer from its venom. Almost everybody in certain geographical regions will get bit by ticks as well as mosquitoes, fleas, and are exposed to various other known infection spreading vehicles and yet there is only a small percentage who actually manifest illness as a result.   

Ticks often harbor multiple parasitic organisms and single bites are capable of inoculating its recipient with more than one agent at a time. I know that I personally carry babesiousis, which is a parasite that hijacks and kills red blood cells causing fatigue , general weakness, and anemia. I had a blood microscope analysis years ago when I was ill, my blood was overloaded with these parasites. To this day I still carry some, but they are order of magnitudes less than they were and no longer make me feel so anemic...though perhaps this contagion contributes in part to my blood thirst.

In any case there is just too much unknown about pathology to be sure about assigning blame to one particular biological agent, and most "pathogenic" microbes do not even culture in the lab, so most testing fails to positively identify the main culprit. While the limited testing technology available often lead investigators on a wild gooses chase that meanders blindly for a while before falling into a rabbit fevered hole of false conclusions and baseless diagnostic generalizations....Words like infection, arthritis, inflammation, metastasis, allergy, tick born illness and whatnot are thrown around with reckless pompous authority, giving assumptive allusions that the foundational reality of these "aberrant" health conditions are at leased apprehended by somebody on some intelligent level of unbiased human understanding. As much as people would like to believe medical technology has delivered us from dark ages ruled by ignorance and superstition, much of what passes for mainstream pathological science is utter balderdash.


It seems possible that tick bites could trigger such reactions, but I am fairly sure that there are other factors involved that are not being identified which make these people more susceptible. 

Health / Re: Cancer - Solutions?
« on: July 07, 2018, 12:14:20 pm »
Disclaimer- I am not a medical doctor- and have not been brainwashed into believing in the ethicacy of such bizarre illogical sorcery, that passes for modern treatment.

Hormone blockers and blood pressure meds will zap vitality and make it impossible to fully regain overall vibrant health and well being.

If the tumors are stimulated to grow by way of estrogenic mitosis, the medical profession attempts to attack the symptom with hormone suppressants...instead of addressing the root causes of such hormonally triggered malignancies. The synthetic environmental estrogens are 100 times more cancer stimulating than the endogenous hormones being blocked. By blocking the natural hormonal production while simultaneously doing nothing to eliminate synthetic estrogen exposure will in the long term exacerbate not only the cancer, but also throw the entire endocrine system into chronic chaos.

Hormone disruptors are EVERYWHERE..synthetic clothes, detergents, personal care products, cleaning products, water bottles, soy, processed foods...the sources are just too numerous to list, and yet before they give people hormone blocking drugs these so called physicians do absolutely nothing to mitigate such primary factors.

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: July 07, 2018, 10:27:11 am »
Yes, I've bought artisan brand myself.
Its an expensive habit, 10 dollars a jar at the local Co-Op, I now buy it from Amazon by the 8 pound tub

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: July 07, 2018, 10:23:22 am »
Acne is often a symptom of liver congestion, or some metabolic condition where excess aggravants arent effectively eliminated by the filtration organs and so toxins are excreted through the skin where they can back up in the oil glands and are eaten/broken down by bacteria, sometimes causing pimples to erupt.

Sometimes if the liver cannot break down certain fats and proteins then the excess is flushed out though the skin and causes outbreaks....everyone is built a little differently in this regard and I have very clear skin and no issues with acne, exect for on rare occasions if I get a less than optimal animal I might have a stray pimple or sore lymph node.

Typically there are multiple factors involved in these issues....such as with dairy; it isn't the Lauric acid which causes intolerance, it is the combination of lactose cassine and other proteins that gunk up the works...the good bad and ugly get all mangled up in the body so its difficult to tell which component is actually causing the issue. Bad organ meat, chemical toxicity, stress, antigenic plant proteins, and a whole host of other factors could overload the liver and weaken ones ability to properly utilize elements such as lauric acid.

The point about only human milk being a suitable source for Lauric acid, is a little bit of a tongue in cheek recognition that most animal milks though they contain good medium chain fatty acids, are also full of lactose and proteins which are problematic....while dreaming there just might be paleo pure maiden with nipples of manna that overfloweth. When the mother of my children was producing milk I would take some every now and then without any issue, and she ate horribly. Imagine a purely pasture raised meat feed woman that does not consume any aberrant materials would produce milk with the least amount of antagonistic elements. Of course this is all a conjecture and finding optimal test subjects would be near impossible, not to mention the ethical difficulties involved. So for now I generally disavow most dairy and believe that there are plenty of other less metabolically aggravating ways to obtain the proper balance of fatty acids, protein, and carbs.

I still insist that the Artisana Brand is Raw, and a whole food not any more processed than air dried jerky....and I am convinced I am either  physically or psychologically addicted to it in some way. Its been a while since I have tried to stop but from what I remember.... If I fast from everything there isn't any issue, and I feel just fine, but if I go a couple of days with only meat and fat I will begin to lose my appetite and the fat I eat doesn't seem to digest as well, and my blood sugar seems to drop. Ive experimented with other forms of low glycemic carbs, but after a few days without coconut, any other plant fiber foods tend mess up the microbiome balance, causing bloating and sometimes diarrhea, then as soon as I eat a little coconut everything goes back to being super regular and fine. I came to this diet with a lot of overgrowth issues and digestive insufficiency along with glycemic intolerances and other issues that most people haven't experienced, such as severe chronic viral episodes. Real early into my transition I believed the coconut butter help relieve a number of these symptoms, and worked especially well in curbing yeast overgrowth and the chronic viral outbreaks...I also had a damaged liver and many metabolic anomalies.....during this period of the first few months of my transition into raw paleo I was eating up to half a pound of coconut butted a day, and must of developed an extreme tolerance, reaching a level of adaptability most people would never attempt under other circumstances. Its very possible that I am a freak of nature and my tolerance to absurdly high levels of coconut cannot be replicated in most other people.

Maybe I will try to experiment with a withdrawal sometime in the future, and if I do I will post any noticeable effects.

Health / Re: Cancer - Solutions?
« on: July 07, 2018, 05:41:36 am »
It would be helpful to know exactly what Drugs they are claiming are not harmful?  along with whatever other drugs are being taken already?

Theres really nothing one can do if the person has blind trust in perscribed drug based treatments, but I am curious to know exactly what the Pharma Cabal is into these days, so as to help educate others who may be more open to viewing the orthodoxy of drugging everyone for everything with a healthy dose of scepticism.

Personals / Re: Contacting Sv3rige
« on: July 07, 2018, 05:28:08 am »
Perhaps, my coconut butter habit is a mere idiosyncratic indulgence which does not have any tangible merit for most other people...or I may even have become physically addicted to the stuff having eaten over a pound a week for the last 8 years. Still I feel there is more to it than can be dismissed by the paradigm of it not being a truly raw food.

I have found that coconut butter doesn't have the overtly laxative effect like raw coconuts, so perhaps some of the enzymatic properties are diminished in the drying process, but that does not necessarily mean its a bad thing...just as how some people will soak or lightly roast nuts to diminish their anti nutrient property.

Coconut fat is one of the most stable of plant based fats and the butter I eat in no way has any hint of being rancid. Lauric acid a main component of coconut fat has a number of documented properties which boost the immune system and support overall healthy fat metabolism. I think I have some degree of physical dependance upon these medium chain fatty acids and experiments of eating more animal fats while cutting out all coconut seem to negatively effect my ability to optimally metabolise fat, though I havent gone into to much depth as to figure out why, because I typically do so well with the current fat ratio combination. 

Lauric acid is also found in large quantities in human breast milk, but since I haven't got a regular free range paleo supply of that, Im not sure about how to obtain quality sources other than coconut.

I would also state that I am really picky about coconuts and don't much like the ones available at the local markets. Every now and then a good shipment will come in and I have made good quality coconut cream in the past, but the cost, labor, and availability has made it so that I cant do it on any regular basis.

I also do not like most of the brands on the market and prefer Artisan Brand over most others. It is low temperature processed, is labeled raw and has a taste which is much fresher than others. All it is is dehydrated and blended coconut, and it taste almost exactly like the homemade coconut butter I made a few years ago, only its much less expensive and time consuming.

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